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Greetings RV'ers,
On the RV-8, I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the IO-390.
It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps in
the low 180's under all conditions.
I noticed today, that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the baffle
is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they do to
aluminium, but that seems like a hack.
Apparently, Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has to different
variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
One is the "Standard" model for $269:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/standard/aec-8000081.html
The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/he-series/aec-8001646.html
Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE models look
a lot like the S&W model I have, assuming the pictures are accurate.
Thanks for the feedback.
Matt
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
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Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler's... |
If you just install another oil cooler .... my gut feeling is that it'll
crack too. If it was mine I would have it welded .... you can't braze
aluminum .... and figure out why the oil cooler cracked in the first
place. My first choice is engine vibration, and the second is stress
due to the baffle mounting flange not being flat.
Linn
On 2/19/2014 8:35 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
> Greetings RV'ers,
>
> On the RV-8, I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the IO-390.
It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps in
the low 180's under all conditions.
>
> I noticed today, that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the baffle
is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they do to
aluminium, but that seems like a hack.
>
> Apparently, Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has to different
variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
>
> One is the "Standard" model for $269:
>
> http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/standard/aec-8000081.html
>
> The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
>
> http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/he-series/aec-8001646.html
>
> Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE models
look a lot like the S&W model I have, assuming the pictures are accurate.
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
>
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>
> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
> Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
>
> Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
> Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
> Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler's... |
I certainly recommend talking to Pacific Oil Cooler before you make any
decisions. They can give you pricing to repair, and probably have a
source for exact replacement as well.
On 2/19/2014 6:57 PM, Linn Walters wrote:
> If you just install another oil cooler .... my gut feeling is that
> it'll crack too. If it was mine I would have it welded .... you can't
> braze aluminum .... and figure out why the oil cooler cracked in the
> first place. My first choice is engine vibration, and the second is
> stress due to the baffle mounting flange not being flat.
> Linn
>
> On 2/19/2014 8:35 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
>> Greetings RV'ers,
>>
>> On the RV-8, I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the IO-390.
It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps
in the low 180's under all conditions.
>>
>> I noticed today, that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the baffle
is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they do
to aluminium, but that seems like a hack.
>>
>> Apparently, Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has to
different variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
>>
>> One is the "Standard" model for $269:
>>
>> http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/standard/aec-8000081.html
>>
>> The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
>>
>> http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/he-series/aec-8001646.html
>>
>> Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE models
look a lot like the S&W model I have, assuming the pictures are accurate.
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Matt Dralle
>>
>> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
>> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
>> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
>> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
>> Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>>
>> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
>> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
>> Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
>>
>> Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
>> Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
>> Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
>> For entertainment purposes only.http://klvk.matronics.com
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler's... |
Matt,
Do you have any photos showing the oil cooler mounted? I'd like to see how you
mounted it. Replacing the cooler with the same mounting system will only result
in another cracked oil cooler. One of the best solutions is to move the oil
cooler off the rear baffle and rubber mount it to the motor mount. A short duct
will need to be fashioned. I can supply photos of how this is done. I want
to see your mounting photos first.
Charlie Kuss
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 2/19/14, Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> wrote:
Subject: RV-List: Oil Cooler's...
To: rv-list@matronics.com, rv8-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2014, 8:35 PM
Greetings RV'ers,
On the RV-8, I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil
cooler for the IO-390. It's mounted on the rear baffle
and its worked well and kept the oil temps in the low 180's
under all conditions.
I noticed today, that the outside mounting flange that goes
next to the baffle is cracked. I suppose I could get
it welded or brazed or whatever they do to aluminium, but
that seems like a hack.
Apparently, Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand
anymore and has to different variants of the Aero Classic
brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
One is the "Standard" model for $269:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/standard/aec-8000081.html
The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/he-series/aec-8001646.html
Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and
cons. The HE models look a lot like the S&W model
I have, assuming the pictures are accurate.
Thanks for the feedback.
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8
Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild
Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV
YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing
Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization
Log
Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now
In Full Flyer Mode
Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the
Livermore
Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground
transmissions. Archives too!
For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler's... |
I had a number of cracks on the baffle metal angle aluminum bracing the
oil cooler mount. Replaced it with thicker angle and fashioned a diagonal
brace for reinforcement. No issues there for 2 yrs now.
Greg
On Feb 19, 2014 5:47 PM, "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings RV'ers,
>
> On the RV-8, I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the
> IO-390. It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the
> oil temps in the low 180's under all conditions.
>
> I noticed today, that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the
> baffle is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever
> they do to aluminium, but that seems like a hack.
>
> Apparently, Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has
> to different variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R
> compatible unit.
>
> One is the "Standard" model for $269:
>
>
> http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/standard/aec-8000081.html
>
> The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
>
>
> http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/he-series/aec-8001646.html
>
> Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE
> models look a lot like the S&W model I have, assuming the pictures are
> accurate.
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> Matt
>
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
>
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>
> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
> Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
> Mode
>
> Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
> Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
> Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
> For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler's... |
I thought the source of the cracking had been addressed. I had some issues with
the left-rear baffle flange cracking too in the beginning. I made the rear
baffle nice and strong, but used the stock left-rear piece which was .032. It
just wasn't up for the task. I later added a cross strut from the crankcase
just ahead of the hoist loop all the way back to the left rear corner and added
some .063 angle stiffners over the oil cooler flanges for additional support.
I'm wondering if I cracked the flange today taking the oil cooler off. It
was pretty stuck on and I was having to do a fair amount of prying to get it to
separate from the gasket. I would have been more careful if I'd of realized
those flanges are made out of such crappy pot metal. Man, they are soft.
Since I'm rebuilding, I decided to rebuild the left-rear baffle part and was taking
the oil cooler off today to accommodate that. That's when I noticed the
crack.
Attached are some pictures of the setup prior to disassembly today.
Matt
At 06:10 PM 2/19/2014 Wednesday, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
>I certainly recommend talking to Pacific Oil Cooler before you make any decisions.
They can give you pricing to repair, and probably have a source for exact
replacement as well.
>
>On 2/19/2014 6:57 PM, Linn Walters wrote:
>>If you just install another oil cooler .... my gut feeling is that it'll crack
too. If it was mine I would have it welded .... you can't braze aluminum ....
and figure out why the oil cooler cracked in the first place. My first choice
is engine vibration, and the second is stress due to the baffle mounting flange
not being flat.
>>Linn
>>
>>On 2/19/2014 8:35 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
>>>Greetings RV'ers,
>>>
>>>On the RV-8, I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the IO-390.
It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps
in the low 180's under all conditions.
>>>
>>>I noticed today, that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the baffle
is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they do
to aluminium, but that seems like a hack.
>>>
>>>Apparently, Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has to
different variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
>>>
>>>One is the "Standard" model for $269:
>>>
>>> http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/standard/aec-8000081.html
>>>
>>>The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
>>>
>>> http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/he-series/aec-8001646.html
>>>
>>>Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE models
look a lot like the S&W model I have, assuming the pictures are accurate.
>>>
>>>Thanks for the feedback.
>>>
>>>Matt
>
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 180+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler's... |
Matt did you use steel washers between the flange and the Al tube like I
told you to? If not this is why they cracked. The units you are looking at
will also cracked if mounted the same way. I would opt for real ST parts.
Pacific still sells SW. Moving it off the baffle and not using the washers
is not going to solve the problem?
On Feb 19, 2014 5:48 PM, "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> wrote:
>
>
> Greetings RV'ers,
>
> On the RV-8, I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the
IO-390. It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the
oil temps in the low 180's under all conditions.
>
> I noticed today, that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the
baffle is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever
they do to aluminium, but that seems like a hack.
>
> Apparently, Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has
to different variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R
compatible unit.
>
> One is the "Standard" model for $269:
>
>
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/standard/aec-8000081.html
>
> The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
>
>
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-coolers/he-series/aec-8001646.html
>
> Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE
models look a lot like the S&W model I have, assuming the pictures are
accurate.
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> Matt
>
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
>
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>
> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
> Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
Mode
>
> Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
> Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
> Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
> For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler's... |
Niagara mounted on rear baffle working fine for 16 yrs now.
-GV
-----Original Message-----
From: mr.gsun <mr.gsun@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 19, 2014 6:39 pm
Subject: Re: RV-List: Oil Cooler's...
I had a number of cracks on the baffle metal angle aluminum bracing the oi
l cooler mount. Replaced it with thicker angle and fashioned a diagonal br
ace for reinforcement. No issues there for 2 yrs now.
Greg
On Feb 19, 2014 5:47 PM, "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> wrote:
Greetings RV'ers,
On the RV-8, I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the IO-39
0. It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil te
mps in the low 180's under all conditions.
I noticed today, that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the baf
fle is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they
do to aluminium, but that seems like a hack.
Apparently, Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has to
different variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatib
le unit.
One is the "Standard" model for $269:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/standard/aec-8000081.html
The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
s/he-series/aec-8001646.html
Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE model
s look a lot like the S&W model I have, assuming the pictures are accurate.
Thanks for the feedback.
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mo
de
Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler's... |
Matt-
I see the probability of much motion in that area what with the sheet metal
carrying the load and a long vectored brace like you have swinging it. I
can show you a better way to mount it if you contact me directly or you can
take some other advice that I'm sure you will get from the listers.
-GV
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 19, 2014 6:53 pm
Subject: Re: RV-List: Oil Cooler's...
I thought the source of the cracking had been addressed. I had some issues
with
the left-rear baffle flange cracking too in the beginning. I made the rear
baffle nice and strong, but used the stock left-rear piece which was .032.
It
just wasn't up for the task. I later added a cross strut from the crankcas
e
just ahead of the hoist loop all the way back to the left rear corner and a
dded
some .063 angle stiffners over the oil cooler flanges for additional suppor
t.
I'm wondering if I cracked the flange today taking the oil cooler off. It
was
pretty stuck on and I was having to do a fair amount of prying to get it to
separate from the gasket. I would have been more careful if I'd of realize
d
those flanges are made out of such crappy pot metal. Man, they are soft.
Since I'm rebuilding, I decided to rebuild the left-rear baffle part and wa
s
taking the oil cooler off today to accommodate that. That's when I noticed
the
crack.
Attached are some pictures of the setup prior to disassembly today.
Matt
At 06:10 PM 2/19/2014 Wednesday, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
>I certainly recommend talking to Pacific Oil Cooler before you make any
decisions. They can give you pricing to repair, and probably have a source
for
exact replacement as well.
>
>On 2/19/2014 6:57 PM, Linn Walters wrote:
>>If you just install another oil cooler .... my gut feeling is that it'll
crack
too. If it was mine I would have it welded .... you can't braze aluminum .
...
and figure out why the oil cooler cracked in the first place. My first choi
ce is
engine vibration, and the second is stress due to the baffle mounting flang
e not
being flat.
>>Linn
>>
>>On 2/19/2014 8:35 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
>>>Greetings RV'ers,
>>>
>>>On the RV-8, I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the IO
-390.
It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps
in
the low 180's under all conditions.
>>>
>>>I noticed today, that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the
baffle is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever t
hey
do to aluminium, but that seems like a hack.
>>>
>>>Apparently, Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and has
to
different variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatibl
e
unit.
>>>
>>>One is the "Standard" model for $269:
>>>
>>> http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-co
olers/standard/aec-8000081.html
>>>
>>>The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
>>>
>>> http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-co
olers/he-series/aec-8001646.html
>>>
>>>Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE mo
dels
look a lot like the S&W model I have, assuming the pictures are accurate.
>>>
>>>Thanks for the feedback.
>>>
>>>Matt
>
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