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About 10-years ago=2C one of my friends had his Setrab oil cooler rupture d
uring phase one test flying. Most of the oil was pumped overboard. When he
landed=2C there was no oil on the dip stick. He changed it out for one of
Van's oil coolers.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C
2=2C800+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA
Subject: Re: RV-List: Oil Coolers...
From: larry@bowenaero.com
Thanks for the info. I'm just curious=2C really. I bought s Stewart Warner
8406R this past December. I'm still working on the mounting of it behind #4
. I think it will be fine. My only complaint so far was the cost. I could
have bought 5 of the Setrab coolers! Next time....=0A
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Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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On Fri=2C Feb 21=2C 2014 at 11:09 AM=2C Bill Judge <bjudge@gmail.com> wrote
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Hey Marty=2C good to see you're doing well.
Larry=2C I'll have to dig around for pictures of the install. It wasn't too
different than the stock=2C on the baffle install. I did beef up the baffl
es in that corner at the same time as going to the smaller cooler. No crack
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The gist of the install was to use 4 pieces of 1x2 inch profile angle=2C ea
ch about an inch long. I think the thickness was 0.125.
use those on each corner of the cooler to grab the coolers mounting holes.
shorter side of the angle on the engine baffles=2C longer side on the coole
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In an effort to isolate the cooler from vibration I over sized the holes an
d put in rubber bushings so that the cooler didn't touch anything but the b
olts and rubber bushings and then I sealed the perimeter with RTV. The RTV
is probably what is actually holding the cooler in place.=0A
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Below my sentence got cut off=2C I meant to say I didn't do the firewall mo
unt because I didn't like the idea of the hoses "working" as the engine vib
rated.
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Time: 10:57:22 AM PST US
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From: Marty Helller <marty_away@hotmail.com>
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Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Oil Cooler's...
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I have one with ~ 4 hours on it. Will sell for an hours worth of fuel plus
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shipping. Had unrelated cooling issues on first few flights=2C but ev
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yone pointed to the non- standard configuration (on firewall) so I changed
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to SW clone on baffling and still hard other problems to resolve.... Now l
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ife is cool at 175 oil temp and < 330 CHT.
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Contact off line at 703-732-3264
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Marty
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RV-7=2C 150 hrs=2C KSUT
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From: bjudge@gmail.com
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Subject: RV-List: Re: Oil Cooler's...
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I just dug back through my emails to find the skinny on the Setrab cooler.
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I'm pretty sure it is this one:
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http://www.hrpworld.com/store/default/100-series-std-10-row-oil-cooler-3-ta
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ll-m22-ports.html
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It comes with straight on AN fittings but I couldn't get them to work
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in the space I had so I used these:http://www.hrpworld.com/store/default/an
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-10-x-m22-hose-fitting-90.html
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These fitting are mega expensive but swivel which takes alot of the
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stress off the attach points. I went this route for a few reasons:
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I had the stock cooler completely covered with AL tape and stillcouldn't ge
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t over 200 F temps.(Too much cooling)
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My baffles cracked from the weight of the stock cooler.(too much weight)I k
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new of a rv-6 built by 3 engineers(one is a DER) and they've flown
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400 hrs trouble free with this cooler.I didn't do the firewall mount becaus
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e i didn't want the hoses
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Even still when its cold I can't get over 160 F.
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Bill
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On Thu=2C Feb 20=2C 2014 at 7:29 AM=2C Bill Judge <bjudge@gmail.com>
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I've been running a Setrab 10 row for around 750 hrs=2C no problems=2C
temp
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s often run too low and so its half covered with AL tape. It's about 1/3 th
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e size of the standard Vans cooler.
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They are made of aluminum rather than brass and AL just works better for a
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heat exchanger.
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You can get aircraft fittings on them too=2C they even have swivel fittin
gs
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at 90 and 45 degrees available.
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Bill
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N84WJ=2C RV-8=2C 980 hrs
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rv-8.blogspot.com
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Time: 05:38:47 PM PST US
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From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
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Subject: RV-List: Oil Cooler's...
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Greetings RV'ers=2C
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On the RV-8=2C I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the I
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390.
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It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps
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in
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the low 180's under all conditions.
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I noticed today=2C that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the
b
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affle
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is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they do
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to
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aluminium=2C but that seems like a hack.
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Apparently=2C Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and ha
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to different
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variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
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One is the "Standard" model for $269:
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http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
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s/standard/aec-8000081.html
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The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
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http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
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s/he-series/aec-8001646.html
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Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE model
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s look
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a lot like the S&W model I have=2C assuming the pictures are accurate.
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Thanks for the feedback.
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Matt
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Time: 11:02:37 AM PST US
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From: Marty Helller <marty_away@hotmail.com>
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Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Oil Cooler's...
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Also had this configuration....I'll send you photos when home=2C next wee
k.
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In short=2C mounted 2 parallel pieces of angle aluminum on firewall=
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nd mounted Setrab to that. Then built a fiberglass 'vulcano' to funnel the
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air. Had a butterfly valve at the attachment to the baffling....
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Marty
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RV-7=2C KSUT 150 hrs
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( P.s. Hi Bill..... Still owe you a ride....)
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Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Oil Cooler's...
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From: larry@bowenaero.com
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Bill -
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How did you mount the setrab? Any pictures?--
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Larry Bowen
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Larry@BowenAero.com
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http://BowenAero.com
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On Thu=2C Feb 20=2C 2014 at 10:29 AM=2C Bill Judge <bjudge@gmail.com>
wrote
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:
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I've been running a Setrab 10 row for around 750 hrs=2C no problems=2C
temp
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s often run too low and so its half covered with AL tape. It's about 1/3 th
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e size of the standard Vans cooler.
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They are made of aluminum rather than brass and AL just works better for a
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heat exchanger.
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You can get aircraft fittings on them too=2C they even have swivel fittin
gs
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at 90 and 45 degrees available.
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Bill
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N84WJ=2C RV-8=2C 980 hrs
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rv-8.blogspot.com
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Time: 05:38:47 PM PST US
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From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
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Subject: RV-List: Oil Cooler's...
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Greetings RV'ers=2C
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On the RV-8=2C I've got Stewart/Warner 10610R 10 row oil cooler for the I
O-
=0A
390.
=0A
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It's mounted on the rear baffle and its worked well and kept the oil temps
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in
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the low 180's under all conditions.
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I noticed today=2C that the outside mounting flange that goes next to the
b
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affle
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is cracked. I suppose I could get it welded or brazed or whatever they do
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to
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aluminium=2C but that seems like a hack.
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Apparently=2C Chief doesn't carry the Stewart/Warner brand anymore and ha
s
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to different
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variants of the Aero Classic brand in the 10 Row 10610R compatible unit.
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One is the "Standard" model for $269:
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http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
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s/standard/aec-8000081.html
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The other is the "HE" (High Efficiency) models are $575:
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http://www.chiefaircraft.com/aircraft/oil-system-filters/oil-cooler
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s/he-series/aec-8001646.html
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Any thought's on either of these two options? Pros and cons. The HE model
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s look
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a lot like the S&W model I have=2C assuming the pictures are accurate.
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Thanks for the feedback.
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Matt
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Matt Dralle
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RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
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http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
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http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
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http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
=0A
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Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
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http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
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Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete=3B Now In Full Flye
r
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Mode
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Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
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Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
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Time: 07:57:29 PM PST US
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From: RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
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Subject: RE: RV-List: Oil Cooler's...
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I originally flew my O-320 RV-6 in Southern California heat during Septembe
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r 1997 with an oil cooler mounted on the firewall with 3" SCAT tubing runni
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I constantly had high oil temperature. Relocating the oil cooler to the en
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gine mount behind cylinder #4 with a full size opening duct to it just an i
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nch behind the cylinder lowered oil temp 30 degrees F.
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In a high heat environment with high power settings=2C I would not use a
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rewall mounted oil cooler and 3" SCAT to it. There is not enough air flow
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going through the oil cooler with the setup that I originally had.
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Gary A. Sobek
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