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Mon 02/24/14


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 07:37 AM - Re: flight guide publications (Thomas Sargent)
     2. 09:54 AM - Re: flight guide publications (JohnF)
     3. 12:55 PM - Re: flight guide publications (Ralph Finch)
     4. 01:17 PM - Re: flight guide publications (RV6 Flyer)
     5. 01:19 PM - Re: flight guide publications (Kelly McMullen)
     6. 03:41 PM - Re: flight guide publications (Thomas Sargent)
     7. 04:02 PM - Re: flight guide publications (bigdog@bentwing.com)
     8. 05:07 PM - Re: flight guide publications (Nikolaos Napoli)
     9. 07:17 PM - Re: Van's SBs (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:37:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: flight guide publications
    From: Thomas Sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>
    John: where are you getting the airport info if not from flight guide? I really like the airport diagrams in flight guide, otherwise I just get the FAA facilities book. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:55 PM, <blue6@centurytel.net> wrote: > > -- Tom Sargent


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    Time: 09:54:21 AM PST US
    From: "JohnF" <n29cx@ridgeviewtel.us>
    Subject: Re: flight guide publications
    I get airport diagrams and information from WingX on my Ipad, and also on my backup HP 4700 using Anywhere Map...also additional info from Air Nav web site. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Sargent To: rv-list Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:36 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: flight guide publications John: where are you getting the airport info if not from flight guide? I really like the airport diagrams in flight guide, otherwise I just get the FAA facilities book. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:55 PM, <blue6@centurytel.net> wrote: -- Tom Sargent


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    Time: 12:55:42 PM PST US
    From: Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: flight guide publications
    I've had back luck with them too, ever since they made the big change in their paper format. Since then their right hand doesn't know what their left foot is doing. I wish they would quit trying to sell retail. Instead, wholesale their excellent airport maps to WingX, ForeFlight, etc., to replace the poor quality airport diagrams in those apps. They could also wholesale their maps to someone who could properly print and distribute them. On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Sargent <sarg314@gmail.com> wrote: > About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of > the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications (flightguide.com). > They still list it on their website, but they still haven't shipped it. > Every few months I send them an email asking where it is and they respond > telling me it will ship in "a couple months". > > They are pushing an electronic version of the flight guide (for IPads or > Kindles), but I am loathe to become dependent on yet another battery powered > device that's hard to read in daylight. My old flight guide is falling > apart. > > Has any one else had this experience with these people or is it just me that > they hate? Are they going broke? Being sued out of existence? What? > > > -- > Tom Sargent > >


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    Time: 01:17:17 PM PST US
    From: RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
    Subject: flight guide publications
    If everyone that has had problems with them posts something=2C this will be a very long thread. I tried their new paper product=2C it was late=2C and not user friendly. I had the entire US or all 6 books in the new format. Started using Forefli ght but kept the local book for one year. I may have opened it once in a y ear but I may have never opened it. Dropped all their products and do not miss it. Years ago=2C I had a difficult time reading documents on a computer but sin ce everything at work was available as a soft copy or I could print and hav e a hard copy=2C I taught myself to read on the computer screen without the hard copy. Since the iPad has come out=2C I read almost everything as a e Copy. IF the eCopy of Flight Guide was FREE or a couple of bucks=2C I may use it but have been able to get everything I need from Foreflight so will use the money I save for AvGas and fly more. BTW=2C I have 1=2C635 Cross Country hours and do use the latest info for fl ight planning and execution. Flight Guide is not one of the products that I have used since they changed the format. Yes I tried it=2C did not like it=2C found Foreflight to be an EXCELLENT replacement. Respectfully=2C Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C820+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA > From: ralphmariafinch@gmail.com > Date: Mon=2C 24 Feb 2014 12:53:37 -0800 > Subject: Re: RV-List: flight guide publications > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > > I've had back luck with them too=2C ever since they made the big change > in their paper format. Since then their right hand doesn't know what > their left foot is doing. > > I wish they would quit trying to sell retail. Instead=2C wholesale their > excellent airport maps to WingX=2C ForeFlight=2C etc.=2C to replace the p oor > quality airport diagrams in those apps. They could also wholesale > their maps to someone who could properly print and distribute them. > > On Sun=2C Feb 16=2C 2014 at 11:36 AM=2C Thomas Sargent <sarg314@gmail.com > wrote: > > About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of > > the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications (flightguide.c om). > > They still list it on their website=2C but they still haven't shipped i t. > > Every few months I send them an email asking where it is and they respo nd > > telling me it will ship in "a couple months". > > > > They are pushing an electronic version of the flight guide (for IPads o r > > Kindles)=2C but I am loathe to become dependent on yet another battery powered > > device that's hard to read in daylight. My old flight guide is falling > > apart. > > > > Has any one else had this experience with these people or is it just me that > > they hate? Are they going broke? Being sued out of existence? What? > > > > > > > > -- > > Tom Sargent > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 01:19:11 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: flight guide publications
    They do license their diagrams to Dynon, AFS, Aspen and a bunch of portable units via Seattle Avionics. On 2/24/2014 1:53 PM, Ralph Finch wrote: > > I've had back luck with them too, ever since they made the big change > in their paper format. Since then their right hand doesn't know what > their left foot is doing. > > I wish they would quit trying to sell retail. Instead, wholesale their > excellent airport maps to WingX, ForeFlight, etc., to replace the poor > quality airport diagrams in those apps. They could also wholesale > their maps to someone who could properly print and distribute them. > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Sargent <sarg314@gmail.com> wrote: >> About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of >> the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications (flightguide.com). >> They still list it on their website, but they still haven't shipped it. >> Every few months I send them an email asking where it is and they respond >> telling me it will ship in "a couple months". >> >> They are pushing an electronic version of the flight guide (for IPads or >> Kindles), but I am loathe to become dependent on yet another battery powered >> device that's hard to read in daylight. My old flight guide is falling >> apart. >> >> Has any one else had this experience with these people or is it just me that >> they hate? Are they going broke? Being sued out of existence? What? >> >> >> >> -- >> Tom Sargent >> >> > >


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    Time: 03:41:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: flight guide publications
    From: Thomas Sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>
    Is there something like foreflight that works with an android phone? Apparently they deal only with Apple stuff. On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > > They do license their diagrams to Dynon, AFS, Aspen and a bunch of > portable units via Seattle Avionics. > > > On 2/24/2014 1:53 PM, Ralph Finch wrote: > >> >> I've had back luck with them too, ever since they made the big change >> in their paper format. Since then their right hand doesn't know what >> their left foot is doing. >> >> I wish they would quit trying to sell retail. Instead, wholesale their >> excellent airport maps to WingX, ForeFlight, etc., to replace the poor >> quality airport diagrams in those apps. They could also wholesale >> their maps to someone who could properly print and distribute them. >> >> On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Sargent <sarg314@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of >>> the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications ( >>> flightguide.com). >>> They still list it on their website, but they still haven't shipped it. >>> Every few months I send them an email asking where it is and they respond >>> telling me it will ship in "a couple months". >>> >>> They are pushing an electronic version of the flight guide (for IPads or >>> Kindles), but I am loathe to become dependent on yet another battery >>> powered >>> device that's hard to read in daylight. My old flight guide is falling >>> apart. >>> >>> Has any one else had this experience with these people or is it just me >>> that >>> they hate? Are they going broke? Being sued out of existence? What? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tom Sargent >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > -- Tom Sargent


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    Time: 04:02:53 PM PST US
    From: "bigdog@bentwing.com" <bigdog@bentwing.com>
    Subject: flight guide publications
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    Time: 05:07:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: flight guide publications
    From: Nikolaos Napoli <napolin@me.com>
    I have been using the Garmin app on a Nexus 7 tablet. I have also used Fore flight, and are using WingX and Garmin on an iphone 5. The android garmin a pp is definitely not as nice as whats available on the Apple devices, howeve r, its still good and better than the other android apps I have looked at. O ne nice thing about the Nexus 7 is that it has a good built in GPS. I have n ot had a problem with it losing satellites. Nikolaos Napoli > On Feb 24, 2014, at 7:02 PM, "bigdog@bentwing.com" <bigdog@bentwing.com> w rote: > > Garmin Pilot works on Android. They pretty much match features with Forefl ight. I used it because I have a GDL-39 for ADSB. I display ADSB on my 796 i n flight and realized I only use my Ipad for preflight planning. So I switch ed back to Foreflight when I had to renew. It=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s a goo d product but I think Foreflight is better in some areas. > > Regards, > Greg Young > > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matr onics.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Sargent > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 5:41 PM > To: rv-list > Subject: Re: RV-List: flight guide publications > > Is there something like foreflight that works with an android phone? Appa rently they deal only with Apple stuff. > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrot e: > > They do license their diagrams to Dynon, AFS, Aspen and a bunch of portabl e units via Seattle Avionics. > > > On 2/24/2014 1:53 PM, Ralph Finch wrote: > > I've had back luck with them too, ever since they made the big change > in their paper format. Since then their right hand doesn't know what > their left foot is doing. > > I wish they would quit trying to sell retail. Instead, wholesale their > excellent airport maps to WingX, ForeFlight, etc., to replace the poor > quality airport diagrams in those apps. They could also wholesale > their maps to someone who could properly print and distribute them. > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Thomas Sargent <sarg314@gmail.com> wrote : > About 14 months ago I ordered a copy of the spiral bound paper edition of > the trusty old "flight guide" from airguide publications (flightguide.com) . > They still list it on their website, but they still haven't shipped it. > Every few months I send them an email asking where it is and they respond > telling me it will ship in "a couple months". > > They are pushing an electronic version of the flight guide (for IPads or > Kindles), but I am loathe to become dependent on yet another battery power ed > device that's hard to read in daylight. My old flight guide is falling > apart. > > Has any one else had this experience with these people or is it just me th at > they hate? Are they going broke? Being sued out of existence? 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    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Re: Van's SBs
    Just inspected my circa 1994 RV-6 for both the stab spar and elevator spar cracks per the respective SB's and found nothing questionable. Whew. - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log Status: 200+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode




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