---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/28/14: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:14 AM - Flying to Baja advice needed (John DeCuir) 2. 10:31 AM - Re: Flying to Baja advice needed (Reuven Silberman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:18 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Flying to Baja advice needed From: John DeCuir I was trying to gather up enough information in order to safely fly down to Gonzaga Bay this month. The AOPA website had a lot of information, but it seemed a bit restrictive, i.e., 12" numbers, FCC radio license. I know they change the rules almost every year, but has anyone on the list been down there thru San Felipe or Mexicali recently? I would like a checklist or step-by-step instructions to get down there and back without getting into trouble with the authorities on either side of the border. A source for Mexican insurance is also needed. John DeCuir N204CP, RV4 Salinas, CA ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:49 AM PST US From: Reuven Silberman Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying to Baja advice needed John,=0A=0AI fly down to Baja and mainland Mexico almost every month in sup port of various humanitarian medical missions in a 210 not my RV, although I have flown my RV down there.- I would strongly suggest you join the Baj a Bush Pilots Assoc as they have all the current info.- I am making the a ssumption-that this is your first trip.- BEFORE you go you will need a 2014 US Customs sticker. They are not expensive but the only place you can get them is on-line, and they take 2 to 3 weeks to get. Become familiar wit h the TSA's- eApis flight planning (the Baja Bush Pilots can help with th at).- You will need everyone's name as-it appears on their passport, pa ssport number, date of birth, and address.--All of this needs to be sub mitted to the TSA prior to leaving.- They check it against their double s uper secret no fly list and (assuming all are OK) will send you emails indi cating that you are free to-leave the country with those folks and-retu rn with same. If the passengers decide to-swap seats and ride back with someone else a ne w eApis flight plan will need to be filed and-email-permission to retur n to the-US with those passengers must be received.- Additionally, you will need to file and International Border Crossing Flight Plan with Flight Service. This is really simple just-let the FSS specialist-know that i t is a border crossing flight plan.- You-should also file the return le g as well (date and time your coming back).- There are 3 acceptable US ai rports for returning GA flights- Brown Field (KSDM), Calexico (KCXL), or -Yuma,-(KYUM). On your way back to the states AND above 5,000 ft (trans mission / reception issue) you can contact FSS to update your arrival time. - DO NOT BE EARLY! the customs guys with threaten you with a $5,000 fine, late is OK.-=0A=0AAs for the Mexican side; -Your first time there they will hit you up for an annual multi-entry permit which is about $60.- Th ere will be minor airport landing and ATC fees. They will also have everyon e fill out a visa form, there is a small charge for that to.- Any fee you pay make sure you get a receipt.- Have small bills - nothing bigger than a 20.- They generally do not give change - unless you are paying fees et c in Pesos. By the way fuel is not significantly cheaper in MX.- Flight p lan accordingly as-not all airport in Mexico have fuel.- Fuel is genera lly available at Tijuana, San Felipe, Ensenada, then no gas until Loreto. O ne thing that is unusual about MX flying is that you will be greeted at eac h airport with Army guys with guns. Almost all of them do not speak English .- They may or may not look inside the AC.- All they want is basic info for their paperwork, name of pilot, passengers, where your coming from, wh ere your going, etc. then they will wander off. =0A=0AComing back into the US the US Customs gu ys will want to see the 2014 sticker, aircraft registration, airworthiness cert, your license and medical. Make sure all are in-order - or-5K fine .-- =0A=0AI didn't want to make this response to long.- I have hit th e highlights. Call me if you want to talk about Mexico flying.=0A=0AReuven Silberman=0AN7WT-- 7A-- KSEE=0A858-254-3848--=0A=0AEnjoy life n ow=0AIt has an expiration date. =0A=0A=0AOn Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:32 AM , John DeCuir wrote:=0A =0A=0A=0A--> RV-List messag e posted by: John DeCuir =0A=0A=0AI was trying to gat her up enough information in order to safely fly down to Gonzaga Bay this m onth. The AOPA website had a lot of information, but it seemed a bit restri ctive, i.e., 12" numbers, FCC radio license. I know they change the rules a lmost every year, but has anyone on the list been down there thru San Felip e or Mexicali recently? I would like a checklist or step-by-step instructio ns to get down there and back without getting into trouble with the authori ties on either side of the border. A source for Mexican insurance is also n - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.