---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/19/14: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:05 PM - Re: Navaid AP-1 gyro motor (HCRV6@comcast.net) 2. 04:31 PM - Re: All you wanted to know about DC motors (Doug Gray) 3. 05:36 PM - Re: All you wanted to know about DC motors (vanremog@aol.com) 4. 05:38 PM - Re: Navaid AP-1 gyro motor (vanremog@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:38 PM PST US From: HCRV6@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Navaid AP-1 gyro motor Wow, thanks Gary I will try that right away. Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 1200 hours (as of last flight.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary A. Sobek" Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 4:48:06 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Navaid AP-1 gyro motor Harry: I did the same as you. I can dampen out the hunting by adding some aileron trim bias to one side. (Turn manual aileron trim as far as it will go to on e side.) The load on the control helps with hunting. Gary: There is a thread on VAF about the motor replacement. http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=38078 I recommend reading post #5. It says almost any motor can be used as a repl acement but stated that the Micromo was the longest lasting. There is a lin k to a less expensive item on eBay. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,900+ Flying Hours Pennsylvania, USA On 08-18-2014, 7:24 PM, HCRV6@comcast.net wrote: GV, The same thing happened to me on the way to OSH two years ago. I bought a T rio head while there and installed it after I got home, using the old Navai d servo. The Trio works OK and has some features that were not available in the Navaid, but it has an annoying tendency that I have never been able to trim out of hunting back and forth around the GPS course. If I could have obtained a new motor for the Navaid I would have gone that way and been com pletely satisfied (until it died again). The Trio folks insist that the pro blem is because the servo is mounted under the passenger seat, just like yo urs, and that they highly recommend mounting the servo in the wing tip. Bot tom line is you will probably be happy if you go with a Trio and use the ol d servo like I did, and just as happy if you find a replacement motor. Harry Crosby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Doran" Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 3:58:20 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Navaid AP-1 gyro motor I have two NAVAID control heads (one I got as a spare) and a servo that I r emoved from my RV-8A. I replaced it with a Dynon Skyview and Autopilot. I have been planning to put them on EBAY, but haven=99t gotten around to it. Are you interested? Thanks, Tom On Aug 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, vanremog@aol.com wrote:
Well it has finally happened again. The gyro motor on my ancient Navaid Dev ices wing leveler has burned out. Navaid Devices went TU in 2008 and their proprietary motor (Micromo 1624L012S692) is no longer available. Does anyon e know if these motors are available elsewhere in someone's stash? I heard that one of the Navaid people (Horace, I think) was the last to do the repa irs before they closed their doors. Is the right solution to go with the Trio head and keep the Navaid S1 servo or replace the whole enchilada? Comments from those who have gone thru this would be most helpful. -Thx GV href= "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List" > http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?RV-List href= "http://forums.matronics.com/" > http://foru ms.matronics.com href= "http://www.matronics.com/contribution" > http://w ww.matronics.com/contribution ____________________________________________________________ t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution om/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List s.com">http://forums.matronics.com om/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
=== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:31:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: All you wanted to know about DC motors From: Doug Gray GV - thanks, excellent info. Good luck getting the Navaid ap working. Keep us posted on your decision, I v alue your contributions to the RV community. Doug Gray RV6 flying since mid 2010 Sent from my iPhone > On 19 Aug 2014, at 12:34 pm, vanremog@aol.com wrote: > > And afraid to ask... > > http://www.delta-line.com/data/download/Portescap_Technology.pdf > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: All you wanted to know about DC motors From: vanremog@aol.com =0AThank you and I will.=0A =0A =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFr om: Doug Gray =0ATo: rv-list =0ASent: Tue, Aug 19, 2014 5:19 pm=0ASubject: Re: RV-List : All you wanted to know about DC motors=0A=0A=0A=0AGV - tha nks, excellent info.=0AGood luck getting the Navaid ap working. Keep us posted on your decision, I value your contributions to the RV community.=0ADoug Gray=0ARV6 flying since mid 2010=0A=0A Sent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn 19 Aug 2014, at 12:34 pm, vanrem og@aol.com wrote:=0A=0A=0A=0AAnd afraid to ask...=0A =0Ahttp://www.del ta-line.com/data/download/Portescap_Technology.pdf=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Navaid AP-1 gyro motor From: vanremog@aol.com =0AThis is exactly what I do but I usually end up just t rimming into the wind.=0A =0A-GV=0A =0A =0A-----Original Message-- ---=0AFrom: Gary A. Sobek =0ATo: rv-list =0ASent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014 4:50 pm=0ASubject: R e: RV-List: Navaid AP-1 gyro motor=0A=0A=0A =0A Harry:=0A I did the same as you. I can dampen out the hunting by adding some aileron tri m bias to one side. (Turn manual aileron trim as far as it will go to one side.) The load on the cont rol helps with hunting.=0A =0A Gary:=0A There is a thread on VAF about the motor replacement.=0A http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=38078=0A =0A I recommend reading post #5. It says al most any motor can be used as a replacement but sta ted that the Micromo was the longest lasting. There i s a link to a less expensive item on eBay.=0A =0A =0A Gary A. Sobek =0A "My San ity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, =0A 2,900+ Flying Hours Pennsylvania, USA =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0AOn 08-18-2014, 7:24 PM, HCRV6@comcast.net wrote:=0A =0A =0A =0A =0AGV,=0A =0A=0A =0A =0AThe same thing happe ned to me on the way to OSH two years ago. I bought a Trio head while there and installed it after I got home, using the old Nava id servo. The Trio works OK and has s ome features that were not available in the Navaid, but it has an annoying tendency that I have nev er been able to trim out of hunting b ack and forth around the GPS course. If I could have obtained a new motor for the Navaid I w ould have gone that way and been comple tely satisfied (until it died again). The Trio folks insist that the problem is because the servo is mounted under the passenger seat, ju st like yours, and that they highly rec ommend mounting the servo in the wing t ip. Bottom line is you will probably be happy if you go with a Trio and use the old servo like I did, and just as happy if you find a replacement motor.=0A =0A =0A=0A =0A =0AHarry Crosby=0A =0A =0A=0A =0A =0A =0AFrom: "Thomas Doran" =0A Monday, August 18, 2014 3:58:20 PM=0A Sub ject: Re: RV-List: Navaid AP-1 gyro motor=0A =0A=0A =0A =0A=0A =0A I have two NAVAID control heads (one I got as a spare) and a servo that I removed from my RV-8A. I repla ced it with a Dynon Skyview and Autopil ot. =0A=0A =0A =0AI have been planning to put them on EBAY , but haven=99t gotten around t o it.=0A =0A=0A =0A =0AAre you interested? =0A =0A=0A =0A =0AThanks, =0A =0A=0A =0A =0A=0A =0A =0ATom=0A =0A=0A =0A =0A=0A =0A =0AOn Aug 18, 2014, at 12:56 PM, vanremog@aol.com wrote:=0A =0A =0A =0AWell it has finally happened again. The gyr o motor on my ancient Navaid Devices wing leveler has burned out. Navaid Devices wen t TU in 2008 and their proprietary motor (Micromo 1624L012S692) is no longer available. 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