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1. 04:19 AM - Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance (RV6 Flyer)
2. 06:33 AM - Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance (Tim Olson)
3. 08:03 AM - Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance (Dave Leikam)
4. 08:09 AM - Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance (Gary VanRemortel)
5. 08:14 AM - Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance (Gary VanRemortel)
6. 08:21 AM - Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance (Timothy E. Cone)
7. 08:22 AM - Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance (Tim Olson)
8. 08:28 AM - Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance |
I did it to my two LASAR mags because they were at the 500-hour inspection.
I did not do my spare mags. I have two new version K3008 parts sitting o
n the shelf in case I need them in the future.
It is my understanding that a batch made between certain dates MAY not be m
ade to the correct workmanship standard.
I did not pull my mags when the SB first came out but did comply when the m
ag needed service. IIRC, they (K3008) were just over $100 each when I did
mine and now are over $200 each.
All I changed were the K3008. The distributor blocks I have looked like ne
w. In other words, I did a I.R.A.N.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
3,500+ Flying Hours NC25, USA
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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 1:48 AM
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Subject: RV-List: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance
Guys-
You folks who have done this work, how important is it to comply with Slick
SB1-15A, changing out the K3822 distributor parts for the kit having a Mon
el wiper? I thought all of the 4300 magnetos had copper wipers since day o
ne, so why the change? Monel for the wiper is likely better, but were the
internal distributor block terminals upgraded as well?
Should I do this on both of my Slicks next condition inspection?
Thx and stay well.
-N1GV
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| Subject: | Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance |
I'll tell you this: I had a brand new IO-390 with brand new Slick
Mags, and within about 350 hours,
I was having major issues that could have been a huge safety problem.
The copper wiper had
eroded away from the shaft and even fallen off of the plastic gear.
Watch this quick video
and then you can decide how big of a deal it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V44DrIsD5Hg
I would never trust a copper one again, ever.
More here:
https://www.myrv14.com/N14YT/maintenance/20190216_Mag_Failure/
Hope that helps you make a decision.
Tim
On 1/24/2023 12:48 AM, Gary VanRemortel wrote:
> Guys-
>
> You folks who have done this work, how important is it to comply with
> Slick SB1-15A, changing out the K3822 distributor parts for the kit
> having aMonel wiper? I thought all of the 4300 magnetos had copper
> wipers since day one,so why the change? Monel for thewiper is
> likely better,but were the internal distributor block terminals
> upgraded as well?
>
> Should I do this on both of my Slicks next condition inspection?
>
> Thx and stay well.
> -N1GV
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| Subject: | Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance |
Tim,
Surprised you aren=99t using LSI.
Dave Leikam
> On Jan 24, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB I'll tell you this: I had a brand new IO-390 with brand new Sl
ick Mags, and within about 350 hours,
> I was having major issues that could have been a huge safety problem. The
copper wiper had
> eroded away from the shaft and even fallen off of the plastic gear. Watch
this quick video
> and then you can decide how big of a deal it is.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V44DrIsD5Hg
>
> I would never trust a copper one again, ever.
>
> More here:
>
> https://www.myrv14.com/N14YT/maintenance/20190216_Mag_Failure/
>
> Hope that helps you make a decision.
> Tim
>
>
>> On 1/24/2023 12:48 AM, Gary VanRemortel wrote:
>> Guys-
>>
>> You folks who have done this work, how important is it to comply with Sli
ck SB1-15A, changing out the K3822 distributor parts for the kit having a Mo
nel wiper? I thought all of the 4300 magnetos had copper wipers since day o
ne, so why the change? Monel for the wiper is likely better, but were the i
nternal distributor block terminals upgraded as well?
>>
>> Should I do this on both of my Slicks next condition inspection?
>>
>> Thx and stay well.
>> -N1GV
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance |
I always preferred reliability of a magneto to an electronic as I have been
in Aerospace and Defense Electronics for 50yrs. If I ever switch, it will
likely be to the dual ElectroAir system.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 8:05 AM Dave Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tim,
> Surprised you aren=99t using LSI.
>
> Dave Leikam
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB I'll tell you this: I had a brand new IO-390 with brand new S
lick
> Mags, and within about 350 hours,
> I was having major issues that could have been a huge safety problem. Th
e
> copper wiper had
> eroded away from the shaft and even fallen off of the plastic gear. Watc
h
> this quick video
> and then you can decide how big of a deal it is.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V44DrIsD5Hg
>
> I would never trust a copper one again, ever.
>
> More here:
>
> https://www.myrv14.com/N14YT/maintenance/20190216_Mag_Failure/
>
> Hope that helps you make a decision.
> Tim
>
>
> On 1/24/2023 12:48 AM, Gary VanRemortel wrote:
>
> Guys-
>
> You folks who have done this work, how important is it to comply with
> Slick SB1-15A, changing out the K3822 distributor parts for the kit havin
g
> a Monel wiper? I thought all of the 4300 magnetos had copper wipers sinc
e
> day one, so why the change? Monel for the wiper is likely better, but we
re
> the internal distributor block terminals upgraded as well?
>
> Should I do this on both of my Slicks next condition inspection?
>
> Thx and stay well.
> -N1GV
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance |
Thx Gary.
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 4:21 AM RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I did it to my two LASAR mags because they were at the 500-hour
> inspection. I did not do my spare mags. I have two new version K3008
> parts sitting on the shelf in case I need them in the future.
>
> It is my understanding that a batch made between certain dates MAY not be
> made to the correct workmanship standard.
>
> I did not pull my mags when the SB first came out but did comply when the
> mag needed service. IIRC, they (K3008) were just over $100 each when I did
> mine and now are over $200 each.
>
> All I changed were the K3008. The distributor blocks I have looked like
> new. In other words, I did a I.R.A.N.
>
>
> Gary A. Sobek
> "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
> 3,500+ Flying Hours NC25, USA
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com <
> owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com> on behalf of Gary VanRemortel <
> garyvanremortel@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2023 1:48 AM
> *To:* RV-List <rv-list@matronics.com>; rv6-list@matronics.com <
> rv6-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* RV-List: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance
>
> Guys-
>
> You folks who have done this work, how important is it to comply with
> Slick SB1-15A, changing out the K3822 distributor parts for the kit having
> a Monel wiper? I thought all of the 4300 magnetos had copper wipers since
> day one, so why the change? Monel for the wiper is likely better, but were
> the internal distributor block terminals upgraded as well?
>
> Should I do this on both of my Slicks next condition inspection?
>
> Thx and stay well.
> -N1GV
>
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| Subject: | Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance |
Tim,
The link you provided is a great resource. Thank you for posting.
Tim
From: Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2023 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance
I'll tell you this: I had a brand new IO-390 with brand new Slick
Mags, and within about 350 hours,
I was having major issues that could have been a huge safety problem.
The copper wiper had
eroded away from the shaft and even fallen off of the plastic gear.
Watch this quick video
and then you can decide how big of a deal it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V44DrIsD5Hg
I would never trust a copper one again, ever.
More here:
https://www.myrv14.com/N14YT/maintenance/20190216_Mag_Failure/
Hope that helps you make a decision.
Tim
On 1/24/2023 12:48 AM, Gary VanRemortel wrote:
Guys-
You folks who have done this work, how important is it to comply with
Slick SB1-15A, changing out the K3822 distributor parts for the kit
having a Monel wiper? I thought all of the 4300 magnetos had copper
wipers since day one, so why the change? Monel for the wiper is likely
better, but were the internal distributor block terminals upgraded as
well?
Should I do this on both of my Slicks next condition inspection?
Thx and stay well.
-N1GV
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| Subject: | Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance |
It's an old post. I used a Lightspeed + Mag on both planes up until a
couple years ago.
Now both airplanes are Lightspeed + Surefly. Part of that is due to
all these mag
issues and maintenance. It's funny because, I always kept the mag
because I wanted
that reliability "just in case", since I was running Electronic
ignition. Turns out the
Electronic ignition has been far more trouble free for me. So, a couple
years back,
I reworked my stuff a little to go all-electric. I added standby
alternators, and already
had dual-batteries. I did, however, add an option so that if I am doing
another
Alaska trip, for example, I can bring a 3rd portable battery and add a
quick connector
for an emergency. I have it so that I can 100% completely power off the
plane, yet
still have a 3rd battery feed to one of the ignitions. Unlikely I'll
ever need it,
with 2 alternators, but that's how it works. The more you prepare the
less likely
it'll probably happen. That's why I bought a new snowblower a couple
years ago.
I figured once I did that, it wouldn't snow as much. :)
Tim
On 1/24/2023 10:08 AM, Gary VanRemortel wrote:
> I always preferred reliability of a magneto to an electronic as I have
> been in Aerospace and Defense Electronics for 50yrs. If I ever
> switch, it will likely be to the dual ElectroAir system.
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 8:05 AM Dave Leikam <arplnplt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tim,
> Surprised you arent using LSI.
>
> Dave Leikam
>
>
>> On Jan 24, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'll tell you this: I had a brand new IO-390 with brand new
>> Slick Mags, and within about 350 hours,
>> I was having major issues that could have been a huge safety
>> problem. The copper wiper had
>> eroded away from the shaft and even fallen off of the plastic
>> gear. Watch this quick video
>> and then you can decide how big of a deal it is.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V44DrIsD5Hg
>>
>> I would never trust a copper one again, ever.
>>
>> More here:
>>
>> https://www.myrv14.com/N14YT/maintenance/20190216_Mag_Failure/
>>
>> Hope that helps you make a decision.
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On 1/24/2023 12:48 AM, Gary VanRemortel wrote:
>>> Guys-
>>>
>>> You folks who have done this work, how important is it to comply
>>> with Slick SB1-15A, changing out the K3822 distributor parts for
>>> the kit having aMonel wiper? I thought all of the 4300
>>> magnetos had copper wipers since day one,so why the change?
>>> Monel for thewiper is likely better,but were the internal
>>> distributor block terminals upgraded as well?
>>>
>>> Should I do this on both of my Slicks next condition inspection?
>>>
>>> Thx and stay well.
>>> -N1GV
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance |
You're welcome. I would say I did it for everyone else, but the truth
is, I write that stuff
up so that I can remember not only what I did, but track down the parts
when needed.
It's so hard sometimes to come up with the proper part number info, so
once I find it,
I try to take good notes.
Tim
On 1/24/2023 10:20 AM, Timothy E. Cone wrote:
> Tim,
> The link you provided is a great resource. Thank you for posting.
> Tim
> *From:* Tim Olson <mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2023 6:33 AM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com ; rv6-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Slick Mag SB1-15A compliance
> I'll tell you this: I had a brand new IO-390 with brand new Slick
> Mags, and within about 350 hours,
> I was having major issues that could have been a huge safety problem.
> The copper wiper had
> eroded away from the shaft and even fallen off of the plastic gear.
> Watch this quick video
> and then you can decide how big of a deal it is.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V44DrIsD5Hg
>
> I would never trust a copper one again, ever.
>
> More here:
>
> https://www.myrv14.com/N14YT/maintenance/20190216_Mag_Failure/
>
> Hope that helps you make a decision.
> Tim
>
>
> On 1/24/2023 12:48 AM, Gary VanRemortel wrote:
>> Guys-
>> You folks who have done this work, how important is it to comply with
>> Slick SB1-15A, changing out the K3822 distributor parts for the kit
>> having a Monel wiper? I thought all of the 4300 magnetos had copper
>> wipers since day one, so why the change? Monel for the wiper is
>> likely better, but were the internal distributor block terminals
>> upgraded as well?
>> Should I do this on both of my Slicks next condition inspection?
>> Thx and stay well.
>> -N1GV
>
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