---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/19/03: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:23 AM - Primer Question (Bill DeRouchey) 2. 10:54 AM - Re: Primer Question (Conti, Rick) 3. 12:41 PM - Re: Primer Question (Scott Schmidt) 4. 12:42 PM - Re: Primer Question (Scott Schmidt) 5. 01:28 PM - Re: Primer Question (Conti, Rick) 6. 02:52 PM - Re: Primer Question (Scott Schmidt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:23:37 AM PST US From: Bill DeRouchey Subject: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: Bill DeRouchey Hi everyone - I am "checking in". Received my RV-10 kit October 4 and just closed the horizontal stablizer last night. Currently pacing myself at 20 hours per week to maintain relationships so I won't be the first RV10 at Oskosh. This is the kit I have been waiting for and have not been disappointed. I can't imagine building before match hole technology was available and would like to thank those earlier RV-4 & RV-6 builders because they kept Vans in business. I am using Sherman/Williams "DTM Wash Primer" for the inner surfaces. It is a one part, water base primer that is easy and light and recommended for aluminum. Since most of the metal surface is already corrosion resistant Alclad I opted for additional corrosion insurance rather than a total solution as with two step primers. Has anyone has experience with this product or information about its effectiveness in salt air conditions? Bill billderou@yahoo.com --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:34 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Primer Question From: "Conti, Rick" --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" Bill, I'll be closing up my horizontal stab tonight. I'm using Akzo 2 part epoxy primer on my RV-10. Lots of discussion on primers. I based on my decision on the fact water based primers actually hold moisture. The Akzo is used by Boeing. What are your plans for external lighting? Thank You Rick Conti The Boeing Company rick.conti@boeing.com office: 703 - 872 - 4602 cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit -----Original Message----- From: Bill DeRouchey [mailto:billderou@yahoo.com] Subject: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: Bill DeRouchey Hi everyone - I am "checking in". Received my RV-10 kit October 4 and just closed the horizontal stablizer last night. Currently pacing myself at 20 hours per week to maintain relationships so I won't be the first RV10 at Oskosh. This is the kit I have been waiting for and have not been disappointed. I can't imagine building before match hole technology was available and would like to thank those earlier RV-4 & RV-6 builders because they kept Vans in business. I am using Sherman/Williams "DTM Wash Primer" for the inner surfaces. It is a one part, water base primer that is easy and light and recommended for aluminum. Since most of the metal surface is already corrosion resistant Alclad I opted for additional corrosion insurance rather than a total solution as with two step primers. Has anyone has experience with this product or information about its effectiveness in salt air conditions? Bill billderou@yahoo.com --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:57 PM PST US From: "Scott Schmidt" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" For lighting, I ordered the System 6 from Wheelen and I'm planning on using the HID's for landing lights. I love the HID's on my car. Scott Schmidt USSynthetic Product Manager 1260 South 1600 West Orem UT 84058 Phone: 801-235-9001 Fax: 801-235-9141 Cell: 801-319-3094 sschmidt@ussynthetic.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick Subject: RE: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" Bill, I'll be closing up my horizontal stab tonight. I'm using Akzo 2 part epoxy primer on my RV-10. Lots of discussion on primers. I based on my decision on the fact water based primers actually hold moisture. The Akzo is used by Boeing. What are your plans for external lighting? Thank You Rick Conti The Boeing Company rick.conti@boeing.com office: 703 - 872 - 4602 cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit -----Original Message----- From: Bill DeRouchey [mailto:billderou@yahoo.com] Subject: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: Bill DeRouchey Hi everyone - I am "checking in". Received my RV-10 kit October 4 and just closed the horizontal stablizer last night. Currently pacing myself at 20 hours per week to maintain relationships so I won't be the first RV10 at Oskosh. This is the kit I have been waiting for and have not been disappointed. I can't imagine building before match hole technology was available and would like to thank those earlier RV-4 & RV-6 builders because they kept Vans in business. I am using Sherman/Williams "DTM Wash Primer" for the inner surfaces. It is a one part, water base primer that is easy and light and recommended for aluminum. Since most of the metal surface is already corrosion resistant Alclad I opted for additional corrosion insurance rather than a total solution as with two step primers. Has anyone has experience with this product or information about its effectiveness in salt air conditions? Bill billderou@yahoo.com --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:47 PM PST US From: "Scott Schmidt" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" I am using the Sherwin Williams 988 self etching primer. I talked to a whole group of builders at Hook's Airport in Houston where corrosion is a problem and this is what all of them use. Scott Schmidt USSynthetic Product Manager 1260 South 1600 West Orem UT 84058 Phone: 801-235-9001 Fax: 801-235-9141 Cell: 801-319-3094 sschmidt@ussynthetic.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill DeRouchey Subject: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: Bill DeRouchey Hi everyone - I am "checking in". Received my RV-10 kit October 4 and just closed the horizontal stablizer last night. Currently pacing myself at 20 hours per week to maintain relationships so I won't be the first RV10 at Oskosh. This is the kit I have been waiting for and have not been disappointed. I can't imagine building before match hole technology was available and would like to thank those earlier RV-4 & RV-6 builders because they kept Vans in business. I am using Sherman/Williams "DTM Wash Primer" for the inner surfaces. It is a one part, water base primer that is easy and light and recommended for aluminum. Since most of the metal surface is already corrosion resistant Alclad I opted for additional corrosion insurance rather than a total solution as with two step primers. Has anyone has experience with this product or information about its effectiveness in salt air conditions? Bill billderou@yahoo.com --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:28:23 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Primer Question From: "Conti, Rick" --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" Did you order the System 6 from Whelen or Van's? Thank You Rick Conti The Boeing Company office: 703 - 872 - 4602 cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit -----Original Message----- From: Scott Schmidt [mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com] Subject: RE: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" --> For lighting, I ordered the System 6 from Wheelen and I'm planning on using the HID's for landing lights. I love the HID's on my car. Scott Schmidt USSynthetic Product Manager 1260 South 1600 West Orem UT 84058 Phone: 801-235-9001 Fax: 801-235-9141 Cell: 801-319-3094 sschmidt@ussynthetic.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick Subject: RE: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" Bill, I'll be closing up my horizontal stab tonight. I'm using Akzo 2 part epoxy primer on my RV-10. Lots of discussion on primers. I based on my decision on the fact water based primers actually hold moisture. The Akzo is used by Boeing. What are your plans for external lighting? Thank You Rick Conti The Boeing Company rick.conti@boeing.com office: 703 - 872 - 4602 cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit -----Original Message----- From: Bill DeRouchey [mailto:billderou@yahoo.com] Subject: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: Bill DeRouchey Hi everyone - I am "checking in". Received my RV-10 kit October 4 and just closed the horizontal stablizer last night. Currently pacing myself at 20 hours per week to maintain relationships so I won't be the first RV10 at Oskosh. This is the kit I have been waiting for and have not been disappointed. I can't imagine building before match hole technology was available and would like to thank those earlier RV-4 & RV-6 builders because they kept Vans in business. I am using Sherman/Williams "DTM Wash Primer" for the inner surfaces. It is a one part, water base primer that is easy and light and recommended for aluminum. Since most of the metal surface is already corrosion resistant Alclad I opted for additional corrosion insurance rather than a total solution as with two step primers. Has anyone has experience with this product or information about its effectiveness in salt air conditions? Bill billderou@yahoo.com --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:52:48 PM PST US From: "Scott Schmidt" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" I ordered it though Van's. Scott at Van's confirmed that this was the correct system to order. I know it's a little early, but I want to get the rudder completely finished. Scott Schmidt -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick Subject: RE: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" Did you order the System 6 from Whelen or Van's? Thank You Rick Conti The Boeing Company office: 703 - 872 - 4602 cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit -----Original Message----- From: Scott Schmidt [mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com] Subject: RE: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" --> For lighting, I ordered the System 6 from Wheelen and I'm planning on using the HID's for landing lights. I love the HID's on my car. Scott Schmidt USSynthetic Product Manager 1260 South 1600 West Orem UT 84058 Phone: 801-235-9001 Fax: 801-235-9141 Cell: 801-319-3094 sschmidt@ussynthetic.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick Subject: RE: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" Bill, I'll be closing up my horizontal stab tonight. I'm using Akzo 2 part epoxy primer on my RV-10. Lots of discussion on primers. I based on my decision on the fact water based primers actually hold moisture. The Akzo is used by Boeing. What are your plans for external lighting? Thank You Rick Conti The Boeing Company rick.conti@boeing.com office: 703 - 872 - 4602 cell: 703 - 472 - 8592 If you're looking for a cute saying....fuhgeddaboudit -----Original Message----- From: Bill DeRouchey [mailto:billderou@yahoo.com] Subject: RV10-List: Primer Question --> RV10-List message posted by: Bill DeRouchey Hi everyone - I am "checking in". Received my RV-10 kit October 4 and just closed the horizontal stablizer last night. Currently pacing myself at 20 hours per week to maintain relationships so I won't be the first RV10 at Oskosh. This is the kit I have been waiting for and have not been disappointed. I can't imagine building before match hole technology was available and would like to thank those earlier RV-4 & RV-6 builders because they kept Vans in business. I am using Sherman/Williams "DTM Wash Primer" for the inner surfaces. It is a one part, water base primer that is easy and light and recommended for aluminum. Since most of the metal surface is already corrosion resistant Alclad I opted for additional corrosion insurance rather than a total solution as with two step primers. Has anyone has experience with this product or information about its effectiveness in salt air conditions? Bill billderou@yahoo.com ---------------------------------