RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 07/21/04


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 09:46 AM - Re: Fuselage (Randy's Abros mail)
     2. 12:24 PM - Re: Fuselage (Mark Chamberlain)
     3. 12:46 PM - Re: Fuselage (Randy's Abros mail)
     4. 02:28 PM - Re: Fuselage (Scott Schmidt)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:46:47 AM PST US
    From: "Randy's Abros mail" <randy@abros.com>
    Subject: Fuselage
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy's Abros mail" <randy@abros.com> I second that Mark. I had the same issue with parts missing as you and have received most of them so far. We had an accident with my Firewall and had to buy a new one. I was 107.00. They told us that a new epoxy lid is 4000.00. Don't break it. I am uploading some photos of my progress on the fuse kit. The plans are 189 pages or so on the fuse kit. In working through them I think that if they had use 250 pages or so there would be less steps combined on each page and the clarity of the tail and wing instructions would come through. I have found the previous plans VERY EASY TO FOLLOW as long as you took your time and understood each step as you went. The fuse plans don't make things as easy. Go very slow! I was tripped up by the direction of the 470 series rivets on the rear spar bars. As it turns out it doesn't make any difference. I am to the point were I can see this fuse taking shape. Randy 40006. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Chamberlain Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuselage --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> Hi Scott, I recieved my fuselage last Fri. The appx dimensions were 5'(H)x4'(W)x8'(L) and weighs about 590lbs. I parked it in my driveway, opened it up and stored the contents in my garage. Everything is fairly manageable, however ,the cabin top is included and it is awkward. It's appx 3x4x7 and is the largest piece in the box. I just managed to squeeze it through the front door and lean it up against a wall. Vans recommended keeping it out of the heat as much as possible. I had some parts and hardware missing ( items not on the inventory, but in the plans). I talked to vans yesterday and there working on it. For example, right side brakes are standard with the 10. I only recieved two rudder pedals and two master cyl, yet got other parts for the right side. I'm already into the first few pages and have discovered hardware callouts ( special screws) that are in the plans but not on the inventory list and I didn't get them. I don't mean to sound critical, just a heads up in case you discover the same. For what its worth, start slowly on this kit. I was so anxious to get started after a few months of waiting that i made a few minor mistakes the first day. The worst part is that they were on that precious fuselage spar. the first few steps are to modify it!! (yikes). It's not easy to remedy since those spars are matched to each other. By the way, you get windows too! Happy building. Mark Chamberlain ( Temecula, CA)


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    Time: 12:24:21 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuselage
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> Thanks for the message Randy! I talked to Vans this morning about just ordering some of the flat head screws called out on page 25-4 (fig2) that weren't in my parts or on the inventory list. They were unable to find any even though they are listed on " the LIST ". I found that a little odd. Oh well, did you get those screws in your parts or did they send them at a later time? As far as the plans go, i guess we're supposed to be seasoned builders by now and able to handle the increased complexity. However, i agree that it is more difficult to get any natural flow going while working and reading through these latest plans. Take care, send some pics if you get a chance. Mark


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    Time: 12:46:01 PM PST US
    From: "Randy's Abros mail" <randy@abros.com>
    Subject: Fuselage
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy's Abros mail" <randy@abros.com> I received the screws and one other part that was missing (sent me 2 rights an 0 lefts). Other than the bag 1396 missing several small parts which were picked up for me on Monday and the brake/ rudder peddles missing which we noticed last night I am complete as far as I know. Randy,40006 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Chamberlain Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuselage --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> Thanks for the message Randy! I talked to Vans this morning about just ordering some of the flat head screws called out on page 25-4 (fig2) that weren't in my parts or on the inventory list. They were unable to find any even though they are listed on " the LIST ". I found that a little odd. Oh well, did you get those screws in your parts or did they send them at a later time? As far as the plans go, i guess we're supposed to be seasoned builders by now and able to handle the increased complexity. However, i agree that it is more difficult to get any natural flow going while working and reading through these latest plans. Take care, send some pics if you get a chance. Mark


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    Time: 02:28:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Fuselage
    From: "Scott Schmidt" <sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" <sschmidt@ussynthetic.com> Randy, where are you uploading your pictures? Website? Scott Schmidt USSynthetic Product Manager 1260 South 1600 West Orem UT 84058 Phone: 801-235-9001 Fax: 801-235-9141 Cell: 801-319-3094 sschmidt@ussynthetic.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy's Abros mail Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuselage --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy's Abros mail" <randy@abros.com> I second that Mark. I had the same issue with parts missing as you and have received most of them so far. We had an accident with my Firewall and had to buy a new one. I was 107.00. They told us that a new epoxy lid is 4000.00. Don't break it. I am uploading some photos of my progress on the fuse kit. The plans are 189 pages or so on the fuse kit. In working through them I think that if they had use 250 pages or so there would be less steps combined on each page and the clarity of the tail and wing instructions would come through. I have found the previous plans VERY EASY TO FOLLOW as long as you took your time and understood each step as you went. The fuse plans don't make things as easy. Go very slow! I was tripped up by the direction of the 470 series rivets on the rear spar bars. As it turns out it doesn't make any difference. I am to the point were I can see this fuse taking shape. Randy 40006. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Chamberlain Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuselage --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> Hi Scott, I recieved my fuselage last Fri. The appx dimensions were 5'(H)x4'(W)x8'(L) and weighs about 590lbs. I parked it in my driveway, opened it up and stored the contents in my garage. Everything is fairly manageable, however ,the cabin top is included and it is awkward. It's appx 3x4x7 and is the largest piece in the box. I just managed to squeeze it through the front door and lean it up against a wall. Vans recommended keeping it out of the heat as much as possible. I had some parts and hardware missing ( items not on the inventory, but in the plans). I talked to vans yesterday and there working on it. For example, right side brakes are standard with the 10. I only recieved two rudder pedals and two master cyl, yet got other parts for the right side. I'm already into the first few pages and have discovered hardware callouts ( special screws) that are in the plans but not on the inventory list and I didn't get them. I don't mean to sound critical, just a heads up in case you discover the same. For what its worth, start slowly on this kit. I was so anxious to get started after a few months of waiting that i made a few minor mistakes the first day. The worst part is that they were on that precious fuselage spar. the first few steps are to modify it!! (yikes). It's not easy to remedy since those spars are matched to each other. By the way, you get windows too! Happy building. Mark Chamberlain ( Temecula, CA) == == == ==




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