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1. 09:46 AM - Re: Fuselage (Randy's Abros mail)
2. 12:24 PM - Re: Fuselage (Mark Chamberlain)
3. 12:46 PM - Re: Fuselage (Randy's Abros mail)
4. 02:28 PM - Re: Fuselage (Scott Schmidt)
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy's Abros mail" <randy@abros.com>
I second that Mark. I had the same issue with parts missing as you and have
received most of them so far. We had an accident with my Firewall and had
to buy a new one. I was 107.00. They told us that a new epoxy lid is
4000.00. Don't break it. I am uploading some photos of my progress on the
fuse kit. The plans are 189 pages or so on the fuse kit. In working
through them I think that if they had use 250 pages or so there would be
less steps combined on each page and the clarity of the tail and wing
instructions would come through. I have found the previous plans VERY EASY
TO FOLLOW as long as you took your time and understood each step as you
went. The fuse plans don't make things as easy. Go very slow! I was
tripped up by the direction of the 470 series rivets on the rear spar bars.
As it turns out it doesn't make any difference. I am to the point were I can
see this fuse taking shape. Randy 40006.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark
Chamberlain
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuselage
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net>
Hi Scott, I recieved my fuselage last Fri. The appx dimensions were
5'(H)x4'(W)x8'(L) and weighs about 590lbs. I parked it in my driveway,
opened it up and stored the contents in my garage. Everything is fairly
manageable, however ,the cabin top is included and it is awkward. It's appx
3x4x7 and is the largest piece in the box. I just managed to squeeze it
through the front door and lean it up against a wall. Vans recommended
keeping it out of the heat as much as possible. I had some parts and
hardware missing ( items not on the inventory, but in the plans). I talked
to vans yesterday and there working on it. For example, right side brakes
are standard with the 10. I only recieved two rudder pedals and two master
cyl, yet got other parts for the right side. I'm already into the first few
pages and have discovered hardware callouts ( special screws) that are in
the plans but not on the inventory list and I didn't get them. I don't mean
to sound critical, just a heads up in case you discover the same. For what
its worth, start slowly on this kit. I was so anxious to get started after a
few months of waiting that i made a few minor mistakes the first day. The
worst part is that they were on that precious fuselage spar. the first few
steps are to modify it!! (yikes). It's not easy to remedy since those spars
are matched to each other. By the way, you get windows too! Happy building.
Mark Chamberlain ( Temecula, CA)
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net>
Thanks for the message Randy! I talked to Vans this morning about just
ordering some of the flat head screws called out on page 25-4 (fig2) that
weren't in my parts or on the inventory list. They were unable to find any
even though they are listed on " the LIST ". I found that a little odd. Oh
well, did you get those screws in your parts or did they send them at a
later time? As far as the plans go, i guess we're supposed to be seasoned
builders by now and able to handle the increased complexity. However, i
agree that it is more difficult to get any natural flow going while working
and reading through these latest plans. Take care, send some pics if you get
a chance. Mark
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy's Abros mail" <randy@abros.com>
I received the screws and one other part that was missing (sent me 2 rights
an 0 lefts). Other than the bag 1396 missing several small parts which were
picked up for me on Monday and the brake/ rudder peddles missing which we
noticed last night I am complete as far as I know. Randy,40006
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark
Chamberlain
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuselage
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net>
Thanks for the message Randy! I talked to Vans this morning about just
ordering some of the flat head screws called out on page 25-4 (fig2) that
weren't in my parts or on the inventory list. They were unable to find any
even though they are listed on " the LIST ". I found that a little odd. Oh
well, did you get those screws in your parts or did they send them at a
later time? As far as the plans go, i guess we're supposed to be seasoned
builders by now and able to handle the increased complexity. However, i
agree that it is more difficult to get any natural flow going while working
and reading through these latest plans. Take care, send some pics if you get
a chance. Mark
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" <sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
Randy, where are you uploading your pictures? Website?
Scott Schmidt
USSynthetic Product Manager
1260 South 1600 West
Orem UT 84058
Phone: 801-235-9001
Fax: 801-235-9141
Cell: 801-319-3094
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy's Abros
mail
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuselage
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy's Abros mail" <randy@abros.com>
I second that Mark. I had the same issue with parts missing as you and
have
received most of them so far. We had an accident with my Firewall and
had
to buy a new one. I was 107.00. They told us that a new epoxy lid is
4000.00. Don't break it. I am uploading some photos of my progress on
the
fuse kit. The plans are 189 pages or so on the fuse kit. In working
through them I think that if they had use 250 pages or so there would be
less steps combined on each page and the clarity of the tail and wing
instructions would come through. I have found the previous plans VERY
EASY
TO FOLLOW as long as you took your time and understood each step as you
went. The fuse plans don't make things as easy. Go very slow! I was
tripped up by the direction of the 470 series rivets on the rear spar
bars.
As it turns out it doesn't make any difference. I am to the point were I
can
see this fuse taking shape. Randy 40006.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark
Chamberlain
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuselage
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain"
<10flyer@verizon.net>
Hi Scott, I recieved my fuselage last Fri. The appx dimensions were
5'(H)x4'(W)x8'(L) and weighs about 590lbs. I parked it in my driveway,
opened it up and stored the contents in my garage. Everything is fairly
manageable, however ,the cabin top is included and it is awkward. It's
appx
3x4x7 and is the largest piece in the box. I just managed to squeeze it
through the front door and lean it up against a wall. Vans recommended
keeping it out of the heat as much as possible. I had some parts and
hardware missing ( items not on the inventory, but in the plans). I
talked
to vans yesterday and there working on it. For example, right side
brakes
are standard with the 10. I only recieved two rudder pedals and two
master
cyl, yet got other parts for the right side. I'm already into the first
few
pages and have discovered hardware callouts ( special screws) that are
in
the plans but not on the inventory list and I didn't get them. I don't
mean
to sound critical, just a heads up in case you discover the same. For
what
its worth, start slowly on this kit. I was so anxious to get started
after a
few months of waiting that i made a few minor mistakes the first day.
The
worst part is that they were on that precious fuselage spar. the first
few
steps are to modify it!! (yikes). It's not easy to remedy since those
spars
are matched to each other. By the way, you get windows too! Happy
building.
Mark Chamberlain ( Temecula, CA)
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