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Sun 01/09/05


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 05:15 PM - RV-10 panel choices (Gary B. Jacobs)
     2. 06:07 PM - Re: RV-10 panel choices (Paul Besing)
     3. 08:35 PM - Re: RV-10 panel choices (Gary B. Jacobs)
     4. 11:25 PM - Re: RV-10 panel choices (Werner Schneider)
     5. 11:25 PM - Re: RV-10 panel choices (Stein Bruch)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:15:46 PM PST US
    From: "Gary B. Jacobs" <gblayne@mchsi.com>
    Subject: RV-10 panel choices
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary B. Jacobs" <gblayne@mchsi.com> I'm planning the panel of my RV-10 and I'd like opinions on my avionics choices. I've tentatively decided on a Dynon EFIS, a Rocky Mountain Instruments micro encoder and micromonitor, the Garmin transponder, an RST audio panel with marker beacon, one nav/com with localizer and glideslope, and a backup electric attitude gyro. My thinking is that the microencoder will back up the Dynon for airspeed, altitude and direction, and the electric gyro will backup the Dynon for attitude. What do you think?


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    Time: 06:07:55 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 panel choices
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com> I was a fan of the Rocky Mountain stuff, but there has been many advances since. Plus, they are reluctant to change their design for future upgrades. The microencoder I never used, other than for the encoder portion. Didn't like the display. The engine monitor only displays one engine at a time. You need to use a switch to change cylinders. I approached them with an idea of having a timed switch between each cylinder, or have it display the hottest, and they were not interested. Personally, I like the ACS 2002 engine monitor. Wins my vote hands down, simply for the display. Seeing your engine "in the green" makes more sense to me than digits. The features on the microencoder are overkill for me. A standard VSI and altimeter with an encoder would be more helpful in my opinion. I'd put in an old analog airspeed indicator for backup. If I were to backup an electronic item, I do it with something that wasn't electronic. My opinons only, coming from using both, and teaching both. Paul Besing RV-6A Sold RV-10 Soon http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software http://www.kitlog.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary B. Jacobs" <gblayne@mchsi.com> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 panel choices > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary B. Jacobs" <gblayne@mchsi.com> > > I'm planning the panel of my RV-10 and I'd like opinions on my avionics choices. I've tentatively decided on a Dynon EFIS, a Rocky Mountain Instruments micro encoder and micromonitor, the Garmin transponder, an RST audio panel with marker beacon, one nav/com with localizer and glideslope, and a backup electric attitude gyro. My thinking is that the microencoder will back up the Dynon for airspeed, altitude and direction, and the electric gyro will backup the Dynon for attitude. What do you think? > >


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    Time: 08:35:03 PM PST US
    From: "Gary B. Jacobs" <gblayne@mchsi.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 panel choices
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary B. Jacobs" <gblayne@mchsi.com> Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 panel choices > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com> > > I was a fan of the Rocky Mountain stuff, but there has been many advances > since. Plus, they are reluctant to change their design for future > upgrades. > The microencoder I never used, other than for the encoder portion. Didn't > like the display. The engine monitor only displays one engine at a time. > You need to use a switch to change cylinders. I approached them with an > idea of having a timed switch between each cylinder, or have it display > the > hottest, and they were not interested. > > Personally, I like the ACS 2002 engine monitor. Wins my vote hands down, > simply for the display. Seeing your engine "in the green" makes more > sense > to me than digits. > > The features on the microencoder are overkill for me. A standard VSI and > altimeter with an encoder would be more helpful in my opinion. > > I'd put in an old analog airspeed indicator for backup. If I were to > backup > an electronic item, I do it with something that wasn't electronic. > > My opinons only, coming from using both, and teaching both. > > Paul Besing > RV-6A Sold > RV-10 Soon > http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing > Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software > http://www.kitlog.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary B. Jacobs" <gblayne@mchsi.com> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 panel choices > > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary B. Jacobs" <gblayne@mchsi.com> >> >> I'm planning the panel of my RV-10 and I'd like opinions on my avionics > choices. I've tentatively decided on a Dynon EFIS, a Rocky Mountain > Instruments micro encoder and micromonitor, the Garmin transponder, an RST > audio panel with marker beacon, one nav/com with localizer and glideslope, > and a backup electric attitude gyro. My thinking is that the microencoder > will back up the Dynon for airspeed, altitude and direction, and the > electric gyro will backup the Dynon for attitude. What do you think? >> >> > > >


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    Time: 11:25:59 PM PST US
    From: "Werner Schneider" <glastar@gmx.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 panel choices
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Werner Schneider" <glastar@gmx.net> Hello Gary, I've exactly this setup in my GlaStar and I'm quite happy with Dynon and Encoder, however the micromonitor is another item I would change (actually looking currently into it), two disadvantages, one beeing all temperatures in Celsius and the engine CHT/EGT only one cylinder visible, I had also one or two glitches with it, but functionality wise it is perfect, all what I need is included (except the one and only cyl. Let me know if you want more infos/photos. br Werner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary B. Jacobs" <gblayne@mchsi.com> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 panel choices > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary B. Jacobs" <gblayne@mchsi.com> > > I'm planning the panel of my RV-10 and I'd like opinions on my avionics choices. I've tentatively decided on a Dynon EFIS, a Rocky Mountain Instruments micro encoder and micromonitor, the Garmin transponder, an RST audio panel with marker beacon, one nav/com with localizer and glideslope, and a backup electric attitude gyro. My thinking is that the microencoder will back up the Dynon for airspeed, altitude and direction, and the electric gyro will backup the Dynon for attitude. What do you think? > >


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    Time: 11:25:59 PM PST US
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    Subject: RV-10 panel choices
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> As long as you've decided on the Dynon EFIS (great choice), hold off a few months until they start shipping their new engine monitor. It's display is VERY similar in layout to the ACS, meaning you get all the stuff you want at a glance....Plus, it's nearly identical to the EFIS, and communicates with it as well, giving you some added redundancy as far as switching displays (The EFIS & Eng.Monitor will talk to each other).I can say with a fair amount of certainty it will be far cheaper than the ACS monitor as well. Paul's right, the ACS stuff is nice, but there are others out there that are very competitive as well. The Rocky Mountain stuff seems to be slowly becoming less prevalent with the new breed of stuff available. Personally, I think they are fine units, but look somewhat antiquated compared to the newere stuff available. Look at it this way, you're going to have probably at least $50-60K minimum into the airframe, so a few extra $$'s on the panel will make the difference between a lower end looking panel and a nice top notch panel. Also, I'd forget about the backup electric Gyro and also wait a few months until TruTrak starts shipping their new solid state Attitude Direction Indicator, which also has some REALLY nifty added functionality (including a built in DG, etc..) It'll will be cheaper than the electric Gyros, FAR more reliable, and will run a long time on a simple 9 volt battery for backup if required. If you have any questions about either of the above units, contact me off list for more details and I'll gladly help you out. I can also give you some personal insight as to personally handling a very large variety of today's available instruments and engine monitors on a regular basis. Just my 2 cents as usual. Cheers, Stein -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gary B. Jacobs Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 panel choices --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary B. Jacobs" <gblayne@mchsi.com> I'm planning the panel of my RV-10 and I'd like opinions on my avionics choices. I've tentatively decided on a Dynon EFIS, a Rocky Mountain Instruments micro encoder and micromonitor, the Garmin transponder, an RST audio panel with marker beacon, one nav/com with localizer and glideslope, and a backup electric attitude gyro. My thinking is that the microencoder will back up the Dynon for airspeed, altitude and direction, and the electric gyro will backup the Dynon for attitude. What do you think?




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