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1. 12:36 AM - Re: Introduction - First Time Builder ()
2. 06:47 AM - Re: Priming the outside.... (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
3. 06:47 AM - Re: Introduction - First Time Builder (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
4. 06:51 AM - RV10 Firewall Forward parts inventory (current 3/15/2005) (Tim Olson)
5. 07:44 AM - Posting for James Hein and alternative engines ()
6. 10:09 AM - Seat upholstery pricing (Randy DeBauw)
7. 10:10 AM - Crotch strap lug (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
8. 10:16 AM - I'm In Too (Dave Hertner)
9. 10:18 AM - Re: I'm In Too (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
10. 10:26 AM - Re: Crotch strap lug (Scott Schmidt)
11. 10:33 AM - Re: Seat upholstery pricing (Rick)
12. 10:38 AM - Re: Crotch strap lug (Brian Denk)
13. 10:40 AM - Re: I'm In Too (JOHN STARN)
14. 10:46 AM - Re: Seat upholstery pricing (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
15. 10:58 AM - Re: Crotch strap lug (Tim Olson)
16. 11:06 AM - Re: Seat upholstery pricing (Tim Olson)
17. 11:17 AM - Re: Seat upholstery pricing (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
18. 11:19 AM - Re: Seat upholstery pricing (Randy DeBauw)
19. 11:21 AM - Re: Crotch strap lug (Randy DeBauw)
20. 11:21 AM - Re: Crotch strap lug (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
21. 11:32 AM - Heads up for Builder Assist (John W. Cox)
22. 11:46 AM - Re: RV10 Firewall Forward parts inventory (current 3/15/2005) (Chris , Susie McGough)
23. 12:02 PM - Re: Heads up for Builder Assist (Randy DeBauw)
24. 12:37 PM - Re: Heads up for Builder Assist (John W. Cox)
25. 12:38 PM - Re: Crotch strap lug (Tim Olson)
26. 01:03 PM - Re: RV10 Firewall Forward parts inventory (current 3/15/2005) (Scott Schmidt)
27. 01:50 PM - Re: EX500 (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
28. 02:09 PM - Re: I'm In Too (linn walters)
29. 04:14 PM - Re: Wing tank hole closures (N213RV@aol.com)
30. 07:29 PM - Re: I'm In Too (Robert G. Wright)
31. 07:30 PM - Re: Crotch strap lug (Robert G. Wright)
32. 07:35 PM - Wing incidence (Tim Olson)
33. 08:02 PM - Re: I'm In Too (Konrad L. Werner)
34. 08:50 PM - Re: Wing incidence (son hoang)
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| Subject: | Introduction - First Time Builder |
Hello James,
A lot has been said on tools, I can't agree more.
Deburing is very important - I found that the three sided hole deburing tool
chatters a lot - get the chaterless kind, I believe it costs just 1 or 2$
more.
I bought a rivet removal tool from ACS - useless, actually grinds down the
sides of the base material, hence harmful. Removing rivets by hand is a
technique you'll soon master. Just drill down the center of the rivet with a
small diameter (careful as drill will wander), then drill with a larger
diameter to clear the head. Snap off the head, re-drill with small diameter
and punch out - comes off easy most of the time.
Punches #30 and #40 as a minimum.
Rivet shaver - very useful in places you mis-dimpled - particularly those
flat head rivets which attach platenuts.
Two 6" diameter ScotchBrite wheels - one coarse for grinding down, one fine
for finishing off - I put them both on a small cheapo bench grinder.
Small ScotchBrite wheels and pads - course and fine. Also get the disk
ScotchBrite, 2" or larger - useful for certain types of work.
V shaped deburing tool - very useful - as well as the hand held one.
Michle
RV8 - wings
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 10:39 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Introduction - First Time Builder
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
>
> Hello all,
> I've been lurking on the list for several months now, just
> listening and learning. Now it seems like the right time to introduce
> myself, and pose a few questions to the group.
>
> My name is James Hein. I'm 31 years old, Extra class Ham Radio operator
> for 13 years, Private Pilot for 2 years, Electronic, Mechanical, and
> Software Engineer (Yes, an EE that knows software.. we do exist!), and I
> live near ASH. I also live next door to another pilot.
>
> Since I have almost no hope of buying a plane for myself, I want to
> build one. I first thought of (and have the preview plans for) and
> RV-9A, but my dad convinced me (even though I'm single) to build an
> RV-10 in case I get a family sometime in the future (Maybe that was a
> hint.. ?).
>
> Okay, I've decided. Its going to be the RV-10. The major mission profile
> when complete is to fly from ASH (Nashua, NH) to 1D2 (Canton, MI) to
> visit the family more often (1-2x per month).
>
> Now what? I do not have a garage, although the lower level of my house
> is a full workshop, complete with tools, compressor, lathe, mill,
> welder, etc. and access is through a set of double doors to the
> driveway. It certainly is enough room to work (and store) each major
> assembly, and the closest airport is a private strip called the
> "Pepperell Sports Center" which is less than a mile up the road. I could
> possibly use the backyard for final assembly (the backyard is around one
> acre. Plenty of space).
>
> Before I actually order the tail kit and tools I need, here are some
> questions that I have right now for the group:
> 1. Tools:
> What tools would you recommend?
> What tools would you NOT recommend?
> 2. QB or Non-QB?
> To answer this, I need to know approximate assembly times
> for each major assembly (Wing, Fuse). Anyone have any numbers yet?
> 3. Engines
> My god they're expensive! Wow! What is a good place to find
> a used, or even a core, engine? I have rebuilt many, many automotive and
> diesel engines and am confident I can rebuild an engine if needed.
> 4. Anybody nearby building or flying that's willing to show off
> their project?
>
> Any other comments and/or suggestions would be welcome.
>
> Thanks!
> James Hein, N8VIM.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Priming the outside.... |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@Sausen.net>
Personally, I'm leaving the external side of the skins partially
protected with the vinyl that's on it. On the insides, I am Alodining
all internal parts and then self-etch priming only the inside of the
skins with Marhyde.
For the Alodine I bought a 32 Gal Rubbermaid garbage can and filled it
with about 20 gal of Alodine. I then use a cheap fish tank powerhead
and a length of tubing to pump it into a plastic lined box for spars and
oversized stuff ala Tim's method. It probably wouldn't be that much
more difficult to do the skins, just bulky.
Along the same lines I use a 38 gal garbage can for spraying down
parts with metal prep that way I can reclaim it when done. Something
else I've been wondering, if the primary component is phosphoric acid in
these metal preps, I wonder if the concrete floor etch from HD or Lowes
would do the exact same job for less? After all, it is nothing more
than phosphoric acid. I just do know the concentrations.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mani Ravee
Subject: RV10-List: Priming the outside....
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee" <maniravee@sbcglobal.net>
Hi gang, my first post in the Matronics list.
>
> In my original post, wanted to know what others are doing:
>
> 1. As you finish and close up each section, e.g., the VS or the
Rudder,
> do you alodine and prime the outside before you put it away?
> 2. Do you need to alodine the outside also or just use a wash
primer
> and topcoat it.
>
> The reasoning I have is, it seems like it will be easier to do them
> when they are still small sized. What have you guys done so far?
>
> Mani
Mani Ravee, MD MC
Pulmonary Medicine & Critical Care
Maj. US Army Medical Corps
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Introduction - First Time Builder
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Hi James,
Glad to see you found the list, and the proper one at that!
As far as tools go, most builders get either the Cleaveland or Avery
(occasionally other brands too), RV tool kits. That gives you most of
the basics. Beyond that there are many little things that make things
easier, or are required in one way or another.
Such as:
Die Grinder
Bench Grinder
Fast air compressor (prefer Cast iron cylinders, non-oil free) Bandsaw
Tabletop Beltsander Scotchbrite pad attachment for die grinder
(cleaveland) 3/32" and 1/8" chucking reamer for nice holes Cogsdill
Deburring tool (some people love them) Oops Rivets
NAS1097AD4-3.5 OOPS RIVETS (LB) $17.20
NAS1097AD4-4 OOPS RIVETS (LB) $17.00
NAS1097AD4-5 OOPS RIVETS (LB) $15.00
NAS1097AD4-6 OOPS RIVETS (LB) $17.00
12" long drill bits in #40, #30, #12 sizes A spare 3/32" springback
dimple-die set (yardstore.com) Circle cutter 1/8" offset rivet set Misc
various rivet sets (try yardstore.com) Parker 37 degree rolo-flair
flaring tool DEFINITELY get the no-hole thin/nose 4" squeezer yoke.
DEFINITELY get the pneumatic squeezer (I can't see being without it) I
bought mine with the longeron yoke. Also get the adjustable set holder
for the squeezer.
Get the 59010 Hex Adapter for deburring from Avery...get 2 or more Buy a
couple of cordless rechargable screwdrivers.
Buy a round and flat jewlers file set.
You'll use about 700-750 total 3/32 clecos!!!
About 250 1/8 clecos
Buy extra drill bits, although the prepunched kits help them last A
couple of boxes of scotchbrite pads (Auto body shop) various 180-600
grit tough automotive sandpaper Buy 2 pair of cleco pliers so your
helpers have some too.
Dremel tool with the fine sanding drum rolls.
Small chop saw (some people like these...or.
An air powered cutoff tool
Drill press (use either/or drill press or bench grinder for deburring)
Your other question is a hard one...tools NOT recommended???
I don't get it.....I didn't know there was a tool that could be
bought by a man that wasn't recommended. ;) But seriously,
there's not much you'll be told to get that you won't use at one point
or the other.
As for #2, QB or non-QB.... That's a really hard question.
I spent just over 250hrs getting my tailcone done, and another 300 or so
to get most of the wings done. The fuse and final assembly and panel
and everything is a HUGE job though.
People are guessing 1500-2000 hours to complete the kit. My best advice
is that if cost is a bigger factor than time, go Slow build...the first
2 sections are fast anyway. If you have a hard time finding time, get
QB and get done.
#3. You could try alternative engines, but re-engineering for them will
cost extra too. In the end, just finding a lycoming core and having
some place rebuild it would probably save you the most money. If you're
confident in your rebuilding skills, maybe you'll want to wait until ECI
has their 540 kit out. At this point, since you haven't bought yet, you
definitely have the time to ponder the engine thing for a while.
#4 I can't answer...you're not near me.
Again though, welcome to the list. I can easily see an EE/ME guy being
a software guy....when I started in EE, we had to learn programming and
CAD as part of the program. Fun stuff! (and, another techie on the
list)
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
James Hein wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
>
> Hello all,
> I've been lurking on the list for several months now, just
> listening and learning. Now it seems like the right time to introduce
> myself, and pose a few questions to the group.
>
> My name is James Hein. I'm 31 years old, Extra class Ham Radio
> operator for 13 years, Private Pilot for 2 years, Electronic,
> Mechanical, and Software Engineer (Yes, an EE that knows software.. we
> do exist!), and I live near ASH. I also live next door to another
pilot.
>
> Since I have almost no hope of buying a plane for myself, I want to
> build one. I first thought of (and have the preview plans for) and
> RV-9A, but my dad convinced me (even though I'm single) to build an
> RV-10 in case I get a family sometime in the future (Maybe that was a
> hint.. ?).
>
> Okay, I've decided. Its going to be the RV-10. The major mission
> profile when complete is to fly from ASH (Nashua, NH) to 1D2 (Canton,
> MI) to visit the family more often (1-2x per month).
>
> Now what? I do not have a garage, although the lower level of my house
> is a full workshop, complete with tools, compressor, lathe, mill,
> welder, etc. and access is through a set of double doors to the
> driveway. It certainly is enough room to work (and store) each major
> assembly, and the closest airport is a private strip called the
> "Pepperell Sports Center" which is less than a mile up the road. I
> could possibly use the backyard for final assembly (the backyard is
> around one acre. Plenty of space).
>
> Before I actually order the tail kit and tools I need, here are some
> questions that I have right now for the group:
> 1. Tools:
> What tools would you recommend?
> What tools would you NOT recommend?
> 2. QB or Non-QB?
> To answer this, I need to know approximate assembly times
> for each major assembly (Wing, Fuse). Anyone have any numbers yet?
> 3. Engines
> My god they're expensive! Wow! What is a good place to
> find a used, or even a core, engine? I have rebuilt many, many
> automotive and diesel engines and am confident I can rebuild an engine
if needed.
> 4. Anybody nearby building or flying that's willing to show off
> their project?
>
> Any other comments and/or suggestions would be welcome.
>
> Thanks!
> James Hein, N8VIM.
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/ListFeaturesNavigator?RV10-List
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
=
=
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| Subject: | Introduction - First Time Builder |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@Sausen.net>
I can also recommend the EAA RV Workshop. I had attended the revamped
format in Denver back in January and was very impressed.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Carlton
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Introduction - First Time Builder
--> RV10-List message posted by: Jim Carlton <jcarlton3@cox.net>
On Monday 21 March 2005 08:05 pm, Mani Ravee wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee"
> --> <maniravee@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Hey James, Welcome aboard. The first thing I would suggest is a class
> to hone up on the skills necessary to embark on this wonderful and
> romantic voyage. No really. I attended the RV class by Tom Emery, of
WPARV builders.
> Web site: http://www.wparvbuilders.nstemp.com/?source=rvproject.com
> Tom is a well known and veteran builder, and an excellent teacher. Had
> A/V class sessions and a one on one practice building through the
> weekend. I highly recommend such a class because he has ALL the tools
> you can imagine, lets you use each one of them and make your own list
> or rather narrow it down to what you need and what you are comfortable
> using. Also the tips and tricks in building/ sheet metal work are very
> valuable. I truly believe I will build a almost perfect airplane
> because of attending that class. No I have nothing to gain from the
recommendation.
> Regarding other things others have been very eloquent. All I can say
> is get the kit. It is easy, really. All you have to have is patience
> and time to put in the work. I for one am having such a blast
>
> Mani Ravee, MD MC
> Pulmonary Medicine & Critical Care
> Maj. US Army Medical Corps
I have to second Mani's quotes here. I just returned from Tom Emery's
class and I am amazed at the wealth of info I obtained. Tom is a class
act and his wife Nickie is fabulous. It's well worth the time and effort
to get a head start on your building project with one of Tom's clinics.
Jim Carlton
=
=
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| Subject: | RV10 Firewall Forward parts inventory (current 3/15/2005) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
After having called Van's about the FWF kit for the -10,
and seeing the parts list online, I noticed a small
revelation. The FWF kit on their order page is
just a "sample" that is, I believe, based on the RV-7.
So I contacted them directly and got a current I(O)540
FWF Kit inventory so that I would have the true list for
our application. It's not the same as the others. Currently
there are parts not included, because they haven't finished
engineering the kits yet. They said that over time, more and
more items will be in the kit, and the price will go up.
But, the kit as currently shipping, takes care of some of
the basics.
I thought I'd post the list for your info. Remember
that the kit will be more complete the further along
we get.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
--------------------------------------------------------
Here's the list: (Of the FF-10 IO-540 W/CT10-3 kit....
FWF kit with 3 level control)
1 VA-182-PC Kit Thr/Mix Bkt IO320/360
1 VA-189 Fuel Line IO-540
1 CT 10-3 Quadrant K 3 Lever Kit RV-10 540
1 DOC FF-IO-540 Text/Dwgs RV-10 F.Fwd
1 EXH 10 Aerosp IO-540 w/Muffler
1 F.Wall Fwd.I(O)540 F.Wall Fwd.Common RV-10 ****
*** Common items to 540 FWF Kits:
3 CT A-740 Black Push Pull Cable Black
2 Duct CBT-5/8 Cooling Blast Tube
2 4" Duct Hose Cl 4" Hose Clamp
1 CV Hose 7545 Breather Hose -540
6 Gasket 77611 Blo-Proof Exhst Gaskt
4 J-3804-20 VIB Isolater I(O)-540
1 Oil Cooler 2000 RV-10 Oil Cooler
1 Alternator 60A Alternator & Boss Mnt
1 FAB-360 Filtrd A/Box-360 FI320
1 FF-1005 Breather Tube
1 FF-1015 Muffler Support Brakt
1 IE VMP Install Kit Fittings/Hoses
1 Prop Gov MT P-420- I(O)-540 Lycoming
1 VA-102 Fuel Pres. Hose 15.5
1 VA-133 Oil Press. Hose 27.25
1 VA-135 Oil Cooler HOse 16.5
1 VA-138 Fuel Supply Hose 14.0
1 VA-168 Sender Mount
1 VA-186 Oil Cooler Box Assy.
1 VA-187 4" Flanged Duct
1 VA-190 Oil Cooler Hose
1 BAF-10-540 Baffle Kit IO-540
1 PT-035x1/4x4' Lo Pres-Brke Res. Tube
1 SS304-26GAx1/2x9 SCAT Clamp
1 Vent SCAT 2x3' Red 2" SCAT 3' Long
1 Vent SCAT 2x6' SCAT TUBE x 6 Ft
1 Vent SCAT 4x16"
1 Dyna Bolt I(O)- Motor Mount Bolt Kit
1 Bag 516 Rivet AN426AD3-3.5
1 Bag 517 Rivet AN426AD3-4
1 Bag 518 Rivet AN426AD4-4
1 Bag 519 Rivet AN426AD4-5
1 Bag 520 Misc AN Bolts
1 Bag 521 Misc Washers
1 Bag 522 Misc Fittings/Clamps
1 Bag 523 Fittings
1 Bag 524 Misc Clamps
1 Bag 525-1 Misc/Bearings
1 Bag 526 Aerospace Exh Hardware
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Posting for James Hein and alternative engines |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
James
Welcome to the group.
There is a builder/flyer up near Nashua, his name is Gary Newstead, he
has one of the best 9A's I have seen. He installed the Eggenfellner
Subaru, and wrote the manual they now use.
I too am looking at using the Subaru H-6 for the 10, I have been
following Jan's development for several years now, and it just keeps
getting better, as long as you follow the install manual. I am very
interested in this engine, I went down to Daytona, and got to fly in
their 6A, and it is impressive!
Get Gary's contact info from the eggenfellner site, and go visit him, I
am sure he will give you a demo flight for the Subbie. Tell him Dan said
Hi!
Dan
40269
Can you say Slo build wings....at least slower than most.
James Hein wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
>
> Hello all,
> I've been lurking on the list for several months now, just
> listening and learning. Now it seems like the right time to introduce
> myself, and pose a few questions to the group.
>
> My name is James Hein. I'm 31 years old, Extra class Ham Radio
operator
> for 13 years, Private Pilot for 2 years, Electronic, Mechanical, and
> Software Engineer (Yes, an EE that knows software.. we do exist!), and
I
> live near ASH. I also live next door to another pilot.
>
> Since I have almost no hope of buying a plane for myself, I want to
> build one. I first thought of (and have the preview plans for) and
> RV-9A, but my dad convinced me (even though I'm single) to build an
> RV-10 in case I get a family sometime in the future (Maybe that was a
> hint.. ?).
>
> Okay, I've decided. Its going to be the RV-10. The major mission
profile
> when complete is to fly from ASH (Nashua, NH) to 1D2 (Canton, MI) to
> visit the family more often (1-2x per month).
>
> Now what? I do not have a garage, although the lower level of my house
> is a full workshop, complete with tools, compressor, lathe, mill,
> welder, etc. and access is through a set of double doors to the
> driveway. It certainly is enough room to work (and store) each major
> assembly, and the closest airport is a private strip called the
> "Pepperell Sports Center" which is less than a mile up the road. I
could
> possibly use the backyard for final assembly (the backyard is around
one
> acre. Plenty of space).
>
> Before I actually order the tail kit and tools I need, here are some
> questions that I have right now for the group:
> 1. Tools:
> What tools would you recommend?
> What tools would you NOT recommend?
> 2. QB or Non-QB?
> To answer this, I need to know approximate assembly times
> for each major assembly (Wing, Fuse). Anyone have any numbers yet?
> 3. Engines
> My god they're expensive! Wow! What is a good place to
find
> a used, or even a core, engine? I have rebuilt many, many automotive
and
> diesel engines and am confident I can rebuild an engine if needed.
> 4. Anybody nearby building or flying that's willing to show off
their
> project?
>
> Any other comments and/or suggestions would be welcome.
>
> Thanks!
> James Hein, N8VIM.
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/ListFeaturesNavigator?RV10-List
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
=
=
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| Subject: | Seat upholstery pricing |
I have received the selling prices back from Abby at Flightline Interiors.
Front seats: $650.00 a pair in cloth, vinyl, or combination like I have.
Rear sears: $675.00 a pair and that includes the foam.
Here is the link to her site. http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/ 262-364-6166
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| Subject: | Crotch strap lug |
Here's a test message to see if it works.
Anybody thinking of ditching the Crotch Strap Lugs on the rear seats? I don't
see the point in having a 5-point harness back there in this plane. Somebody's
just going to bash their shin on it.
I think Van's should amend the plans to say, "If you're going to have five-point
harness, install this lug, otherwise, leave it out."
TDT
**********************************
Tim Dawson-Townsend
Systems Engineer
Avidyne Corporation
781-402-7418
tim@avidyne.com
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Dave Hertner here. This is a test to see if this thing works.
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Looks like it does, welcome!
Bob #40105
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Subject: RV10-List: I'm In Too
Dave Hertner here. This is a test to see if this thing works.
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| Subject: | Crotch strap lug |
I'm getting rid of it. Van's told me that most of the people who have
ordered seats have ordered the 4 point seat belts.
There is no option for five points in the front seats so why have them
in the back seats.
Scott Schmidt
RV-10 (Finishing Kit)
www.freedomflyers.com <http://www.freedomflyers.com/>
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Subject: RV10-List: Crotch strap lug
Here's a test message to see if it works.
Anybody thinking of ditching the Crotch Strap Lugs on the rear seats? I
don't see the point in having a 5-point harness back there in this
plane. Somebody's just going to bash their shin on it.
I think Van's should amend the plans to say, "If you're going to have
five-point harness, install this lug, otherwise, leave it out."
TDT
**********************************
Tim Dawson-Townsend
Systems Engineer
Avidyne Corporation
781-402-7418
tim@avidyne.com
**********************************
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>I'm getting rid of it. Van's told me that most of the people who have
>ordered seats have ordered the 4 point seat belts.
>There is no option for five points in the front seats so why have them
>in the back seats.
>
>
>Scott Schmidt
>RV-10 (Finishing Kit)
>www.freedomflyers.com <http://www.freedomflyers.com/>
Agreed. In my RV8, I use the crotch strap for my front seat only. Back
seat is four point. In the RV10, I don't see a need for the extra strap in
general. It's there to prevent "submarining" under the lap belt in a sudden
stoppage.....as in, flying into a mountain. For acro mounts, it's a must to
keep your butt securely clamped to the seat, but for a touring airplane,
it's probably too intimidating/restricting to the average non-fliers who
will occupy the extra seats in these airplanes.
My view only.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51
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Nope, didn't get a thing..... 8*)
(Just a little friendly list humor.) Welcome aboard. KABONG
Do Not Archive. Everything goes into the archive files unless
in the message you include "Do Not Archive".
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Hertner
To: RV10-List@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:15 AM
Subject: RV10-List: I'm In Too
Dave Hertner here. This is a test to see if this thing works.
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| Subject: | Seat upholstery pricing |
Randy,
Did you do anything for carpet or sidewalls?
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Subject: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I have received the selling prices back from Abby at Flightline Interiors.
Front seats: $650.00 a pair in cloth, vinyl, or combination like I have.
Rear sears: $675.00 a pair and that includes the foam.
Here is the link to her site. http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/ 262-364-6166
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| Subject: | Re: Crotch strap lug |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Hey Tim,
Nice to see you here! Yeah, I myself was thinking of ditching
those seat lugs. I have 2 kids to ride in the back, and even
though 5-point harnesses might be "better", I can also see
injuries from people banging things into that lug. At minimum,
when I get my fuse, I'm going to look into how else that attachment
could be made...and hopefully find a way to do without it by maybe
just using 4 point harnesses.
Any new updates from Avidyne as to how the EX500 will work with
equipment this season...software wise I mean?
Tim
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>
> Here's a test message to see if it works.
>
> Anybody thinking of ditching the Crotch Strap Lugs on the rear seats? I
> don't see the point in having a 5-point harness back there in this
> plane. Somebody's just going to bash their shin on it.
>
> I think Van's should amend the plans to say, "If you're going to have
> five-point harness, install this lug, otherwise, leave it out."
>
> TDT
>
> **********************************
> Tim Dawson-Townsend
> Systems Engineer
> Avidyne Corporation
> 781-402-7418
> tim@avidyne.com
> **********************************
>
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| Subject: | Re: Seat upholstery pricing |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
The lady that did Randy's seat is actually located up by me...up here
in Wisconsin. I'm in Northwest WI though, and she's in SouthEast.
I'm hoping to hear from Mike at Cleaveland soon to see how they're
doing on my seats. Would love to have some photos to compare...Mike?
Tim
---
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DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick
> That's pretty reasonable, what state do we have to have them shipped too?
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
> Wings
>
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| Subject: | Seat upholstery pricing |
Abby will send me some carpet and the cloth from the center of the seats to use
as panel covers. She stocks it all most of the time. I may send her some panels
to use but Tim is closer and she wants to see his fuse when it gets to him.
Randy
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
Randy,
Did you do anything for carpet or sidewalls?
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Subject: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I have received the selling prices back from Abby at Flightline Interiors.
Front seats: $650.00 a pair in cloth, vinyl, or combination like I have.
Rear sears: $675.00 a pair and that includes the foam.
Here is the link to her site. http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/ 262-364-6166
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| Subject: | Seat upholstery pricing |
She designed the covers like Oregon Aero did. It is a slip-on and Velcro down setup.
You will just pick your style and she will ship them with instructions.
Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick
That's pretty reasonable, what state do we have to have them shipped too?
Rick S.
40185
Wings
http://www.matronics.com/ListFeaturesNavigator?RV10-List
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| Subject: | Crotch strap lug |
Glad to see you made it. I am planning on designing a cup holder to and use a
pin to take them out. If it doesn't work I will wack them off and spot paint the
area. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend
Subject: RV10-List: Crotch strap lug
Here's a test message to see if it works.
Anybody thinking of ditching the Crotch Strap Lugs on the rear seats? I don't
see the point in having a 5-point harness back there in this plane. Somebody's
just going to bash their shin on it.
I think Van's should amend the plans to say, "If you're going to have five-point
harness, install this lug, otherwise, leave it out."
TDT
**********************************
Tim Dawson-Townsend
Systems Engineer
Avidyne Corporation
781-402-7418
tim@avidyne.com
**********************************
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Tim:
Not sure exactly what you're asking, but the EX500 is doing great. The latest
software version is certified and we are just doing a small "beta" test in the
field right now before we start shipping the new stuff. The CMax JeppView approach
charts are sweet, and so is the XM datalink weather.
Anyone who's interested should wander by our booth at Sun N Fun and check out the
latest toys.
TDT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Crotch strap lug
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Hey Tim,
Nice to see you here! Yeah, I myself was thinking of ditching
those seat lugs. I have 2 kids to ride in the back, and even
though 5-point harnesses might be "better", I can also see
injuries from people banging things into that lug. At minimum,
when I get my fuse, I'm going to look into how else that attachment
could be made...and hopefully find a way to do without it by maybe
just using 4 point harnesses.
Any new updates from Avidyne as to how the EX500 will work with
equipment this season...software wise I mean?
Tim
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>
> Here's a test message to see if it works.
>
> Anybody thinking of ditching the Crotch Strap Lugs on the rear seats? I
> don't see the point in having a 5-point harness back there in this
> plane. Somebody's just going to bash their shin on it.
>
> I think Van's should amend the plans to say, "If you're going to have
> five-point harness, install this lug, otherwise, leave it out."
>
> TDT
>
> **********************************
> Tim Dawson-Townsend
> Systems Engineer
> Avidyne Corporation
> 781-402-7418
> tim@avidyne.com
> **********************************
>
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| Subject: | Heads up for Builder Assist |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
For those that made a switch without also monitoring the ole yahoo today,
the first RV-10 built for profit "not education or pleasure" is now
purported to be listed for sale in Trade A Plane.
0 time SMOH Lycoming IO-540, Hartzell 2 blade, good glass panel, A & P built
by repeat offender for immediate sale on completion. That will sure help on
establishing market value for insurance coverage and may strengthen the
market for former Lancair purchasers who had money to burn and no desire to
build. $287K with your choice of colors. Wonder if Randy will talk to me
again or consider $285 for his? Let's see that's about $ 82 per hour vs. $8
for a Bonanza Metalcrafter QB. Back to Work!
John W. Cox
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 Firewall Forward parts inventory (current 3/15/2005) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Good on you Tim this is a fantastic example of a great way to use this
list!!
Chris RV6 VH-MUM SOLD
RV10 To be built
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Firewall Forward parts inventory (current
3/15/2005)
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> After having called Van's about the FWF kit for the -10,
> and seeing the parts list online, I noticed a small
> revelation. The FWF kit on their order page is
> just a "sample" that is, I believe, based on the RV-7.
>
> So I contacted them directly and got a current I(O)540
> FWF Kit inventory so that I would have the true list for
> our application. It's not the same as the others. Currently
> there are parts not included, because they haven't finished
> engineering the kits yet. They said that over time, more and
> more items will be in the kit, and the price will go up.
> But, the kit as currently shipping, takes care of some of
> the basics.
>
> I thought I'd post the list for your info. Remember
> that the kit will be more complete the further along
> we get.
>
> --
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
> Here's the list: (Of the FF-10 IO-540 W/CT10-3 kit....
> FWF kit with 3 level control)
> 1 VA-182-PC Kit Thr/Mix Bkt IO320/360
> 1 VA-189 Fuel Line IO-540
> 1 CT 10-3 Quadrant K 3 Lever Kit RV-10 540
> 1 DOC FF-IO-540 Text/Dwgs RV-10 F.Fwd
> 1 EXH 10 Aerosp IO-540 w/Muffler
> 1 F.Wall Fwd.I(O)540 F.Wall Fwd.Common RV-10 ****
>
> *** Common items to 540 FWF Kits:
>
> 3 CT A-740 Black Push Pull Cable Black
> 2 Duct CBT-5/8 Cooling Blast Tube
> 2 4" Duct Hose Cl 4" Hose Clamp
> 1 CV Hose 7545 Breather Hose -540
> 6 Gasket 77611 Blo-Proof Exhst Gaskt
> 4 J-3804-20 VIB Isolater I(O)-540
> 1 Oil Cooler 2000 RV-10 Oil Cooler
> 1 Alternator 60A Alternator & Boss Mnt
> 1 FAB-360 Filtrd A/Box-360 FI320
> 1 FF-1005 Breather Tube
> 1 FF-1015 Muffler Support Brakt
> 1 IE VMP Install Kit Fittings/Hoses
> 1 Prop Gov MT P-420- I(O)-540 Lycoming
> 1 VA-102 Fuel Pres. Hose 15.5
> 1 VA-133 Oil Press. Hose 27.25
> 1 VA-135 Oil Cooler HOse 16.5
> 1 VA-138 Fuel Supply Hose 14.0
> 1 VA-168 Sender Mount
> 1 VA-186 Oil Cooler Box Assy.
> 1 VA-187 4" Flanged Duct
> 1 VA-190 Oil Cooler Hose
> 1 BAF-10-540 Baffle Kit IO-540
> 1 PT-035x1/4x4' Lo Pres-Brke Res. Tube
> 1 SS304-26GAx1/2x9 SCAT Clamp
> 1 Vent SCAT 2x3' Red 2" SCAT 3' Long
> 1 Vent SCAT 2x6' SCAT TUBE x 6 Ft
> 1 Vent SCAT 4x16"
> 1 Dyna Bolt I(O)- Motor Mount Bolt Kit
> 1 Bag 516 Rivet AN426AD3-3.5
> 1 Bag 517 Rivet AN426AD3-4
> 1 Bag 518 Rivet AN426AD4-4
> 1 Bag 519 Rivet AN426AD4-5
> 1 Bag 520 Misc AN Bolts
> 1 Bag 521 Misc Washers
> 1 Bag 522 Misc Fittings/Clamps
> 1 Bag 523 Fittings
> 1 Bag 524 Misc Clamps
> 1 Bag 525-1 Misc/Bearings
> 1 Bag 526 Aerospace Exh Hardware
>
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/ListFeaturesNavigator?RV10-List
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Heads up for Builder Assist |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
Get out the check book John. I will give you a credit for the 6 hours of work the
other night. And I will make it the $82.00 figure. So lets see... 285,000.00
- $492.00 = $284518.00. Ok.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Subject: RV10-List: Heads up for Builder Assist
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
For those that made a switch without also monitoring the ole yahoo today,
the first RV-10 built for profit "not education or pleasure" is now
purported to be listed for sale in Trade A Plane.
0 time SMOH Lycoming IO-540, Hartzell 2 blade, good glass panel, A & P built
by repeat offender for immediate sale on completion. That will sure help on
establishing market value for insurance coverage and may strengthen the
market for former Lancair purchasers who had money to burn and no desire to
build. $287K with your choice of colors. Wonder if Randy will talk to me
again or consider $285 for his? Let's see that's about $ 82 per hour vs. $8
for a Bonanza Metalcrafter QB. Back to Work!
John W. Cox
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
What a great deal, and who says you have to build Lancairs for clients to
make money.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Heads up for Builder Assist
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
Get out the check book John. I will give you a credit for the 6 hours of
work the other night. And I will make it the $82.00 figure. So lets see...
285,000.00 - $492.00 = $284518.00. Ok.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Subject: RV10-List: Heads up for Builder Assist
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
For those that made a switch without also monitoring the ole yahoo today,
the first RV-10 built for profit "not education or pleasure" is now
purported to be listed for sale in Trade A Plane.
0 time SMOH Lycoming IO-540, Hartzell 2 blade, good glass panel, A & P built
by repeat offender for immediate sale on completion. That will sure help on
establishing market value for insurance coverage and may strengthen the
market for former Lancair purchasers who had money to burn and no desire to
build. $287K with your choice of colors. Wonder if Randy will talk to me
again or consider $285 for his? Let's see that's about $ 82 per hour vs. $8
for a Bonanza Metalcrafter QB. Back to Work!
John W. Cox
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| Subject: | Re: Crotch strap lug |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Hey Tim,
I've been mainly trying to follow their progress with XM weather, and
also any ability to work better with the GNS-480. When I was at OSH,
the vendors kind of told me if I wanted a GNS480, I should get an
MX-20. If I wanted a garmin 430/530, I should get a EX500. Wondering
if there is anything new now that would make it better to work
with a GNS480? I like the EX500 display better than the MX20, but I'm
having a hard time being willing to give up the features of the
GNS480.
I'll be swingin' by SNF this year though, so you can bet I'll be
checking it out.
Tim
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> Tim:
>
> Not sure exactly what you're asking, but the EX500 is doing great.
> The latest software version is certified and we are just doing a
> small "beta" test in the field right now before we start shipping the
> new stuff. The CMax JeppView approach charts are sweet, and so is
> the XM datalink weather.
>
> Anyone who's interested should wander by our booth at Sun N Fun and
> check out the latest toys.
>
> TDT
>
>
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| Subject: | RV10 Firewall Forward parts inventory (current 3/15/2005) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" <sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
I just wanted you all to be aware that there are two exhaust options for
the RV-10.
Aerospace and Vetterman both are making one. I called Van's yesterday
and they said you can specify which one you want but I've heard that
they will only carry the Vetterman exhaust in the future. I don't know
if that is true though. Below is a link that compares the two systems
and a little more explanation.
http://freedomflyers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84
Scott Schmidt
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Firewall Forward parts inventory (current
3/15/2005)
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
After having called Van's about the FWF kit for the -10,
and seeing the parts list online, I noticed a small
revelation. The FWF kit on their order page is
just a "sample" that is, I believe, based on the RV-7.
So I contacted them directly and got a current I(O)540
FWF Kit inventory so that I would have the true list for
our application. It's not the same as the others. Currently
there are parts not included, because they haven't finished
engineering the kits yet. They said that over time, more and
more items will be in the kit, and the price will go up.
But, the kit as currently shipping, takes care of some of
the basics.
I thought I'd post the list for your info. Remember
that the kit will be more complete the further along
we get.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
--------------------------------------------------------
Here's the list: (Of the FF-10 IO-540 W/CT10-3 kit....
FWF kit with 3 level control)
1 VA-182-PC Kit Thr/Mix Bkt IO320/360
1 VA-189 Fuel Line IO-540
1 CT 10-3 Quadrant K 3 Lever Kit RV-10 540
1 DOC FF-IO-540 Text/Dwgs RV-10 F.Fwd
1 EXH 10 Aerosp IO-540 w/Muffler
1 F.Wall Fwd.I(O)540 F.Wall Fwd.Common RV-10 ****
*** Common items to 540 FWF Kits:
3 CT A-740 Black Push Pull Cable Black
2 Duct CBT-5/8 Cooling Blast Tube
2 4" Duct Hose Cl 4" Hose Clamp
1 CV Hose 7545 Breather Hose -540
6 Gasket 77611 Blo-Proof Exhst Gaskt
4 J-3804-20 VIB Isolater I(O)-540
1 Oil Cooler 2000 RV-10 Oil Cooler
1 Alternator 60A Alternator & Boss Mnt
1 FAB-360 Filtrd A/Box-360 FI320
1 FF-1005 Breather Tube
1 FF-1015 Muffler Support Brakt
1 IE VMP Install Kit Fittings/Hoses
1 Prop Gov MT P-420- I(O)-540 Lycoming
1 VA-102 Fuel Pres. Hose 15.5
1 VA-133 Oil Press. Hose 27.25
1 VA-135 Oil Cooler HOse 16.5
1 VA-138 Fuel Supply Hose 14.0
1 VA-168 Sender Mount
1 VA-186 Oil Cooler Box Assy.
1 VA-187 4" Flanged Duct
1 VA-190 Oil Cooler Hose
1 BAF-10-540 Baffle Kit IO-540
1 PT-035x1/4x4' Lo Pres-Brke Res. Tube
1 SS304-26GAx1/2x9 SCAT Clamp
1 Vent SCAT 2x3' Red 2" SCAT 3' Long
1 Vent SCAT 2x6' SCAT TUBE x 6 Ft
1 Vent SCAT 4x16"
1 Dyna Bolt I(O)- Motor Mount Bolt Kit
1 Bag 516 Rivet AN426AD3-3.5
1 Bag 517 Rivet AN426AD3-4
1 Bag 518 Rivet AN426AD4-4
1 Bag 519 Rivet AN426AD4-5
1 Bag 520 Misc AN Bolts
1 Bag 521 Misc Washers
1 Bag 522 Misc Fittings/Clamps
1 Bag 523 Fittings
1 Bag 524 Misc Clamps
1 Bag 525-1 Misc/Bearings
1 Bag 526 Aerospace Exh Hardware
DO NOT ARCHIVE
=
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Tim:
The GNS-480 will work with the EX500 when connected with the "Aviation format"
RS232 interface. As of last notice, the GNS-480 did not support the GAMA 429
standard, so that prevents an ARINC 429 interface with the EX500 until that
changes (or we do!)
The GNS-480 also has a proprietary "high speed" serial output that, when used
with the MX-20, supports one or two features that the regular "Aviation format"
interface does not, for instance automatically telling the MX-20 what specific
approach you have loaded in the GNS-480.
But on the flip side, people who have flown both MX-20 and EX500 with JeppView
approach plates have been reporting that the EX500 implementation is much more
responsive and in the end, more usable than on the MX-20.
And, of course, I don't think you can get XM datalink weather on MX-20 . . .
But, by all means stop by the Avidyne booth and poke around and ask all the questions
you would like. You might even see me there! (if they can pry me away
from the Van's booth . . .)
TDT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Crotch strap lug
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Hey Tim,
I've been mainly trying to follow their progress with XM weather, and
also any ability to work better with the GNS-480. When I was at OSH,
the vendors kind of told me if I wanted a GNS480, I should get an
MX-20. If I wanted a garmin 430/530, I should get a EX500. Wondering
if there is anything new now that would make it better to work
with a GNS480? I like the EX500 display better than the MX20, but I'm
having a hard time being willing to give up the features of the
GNS480.
I'll be swingin' by SNF this year though, so you can bet I'll be
checking it out.
Tim
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> Tim:
>
> Not sure exactly what you're asking, but the EX500 is doing great.
> The latest software version is certified and we are just doing a
> small "beta" test in the field right now before we start shipping the
> new stuff. The CMax JeppView approach charts are sweet, and so is
> the XM datalink weather.
>
> Anyone who's interested should wander by our booth at Sun N Fun and
> check out the latest toys.
>
> TDT
>
>
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If you're going to clutter up the list with TEST messages, please use
the "do not archive" statement so they don't clutter up the archives too.
Thanks,
Linn (And Matt too, I'm sure)
Dave Hertner wrote:
> Dave Hertner here. This is a test to see if this thing works.
>
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing tank hole closures |
I purchased a bag-o-rivets at SNF last year, it had some round head AN470AD5
rivets in there, just bucked them in and it feels better than using pull
rivets.....
Mike Kraus
N223RV - RV-4 Flying
N213RV - RV-10 - Working on wings......
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Almost every message I get is double-sent. What do I have set incorrectly?
Rob
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US
SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: I'm In Too
Looks like it does, welcome!
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave Hertner
Subject: RV10-List: I'm In Too
Dave Hertner here. This is a test to see if this thing works.
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| Subject: | Crotch strap lug |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
Not to mention if you have any female friends flying and wearing a skirt...
Rob
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I was watching a thread on the regular generic RV Matronics forum
about adjusting the wing incidence angle, I think after assembly
and test flight.
I'm just wondering...they were referring to RV-6 series planes, but
what about our -10's. Maybe someone who's way ahead, like Randy,
could answer this: Does that small alignment hole in the rear
wing spar doubler actually take care of the whole wing incidence
issue for you, since we have pre-punched, CAD designed airframes?
It would seem we'd have less variability and more accuracy, and
therefore have less to worry about.
How did yours go Randy?...or anyone else?
Tim
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
Wing Kit - Almost Complete
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Rob,
It's either your eye glasses are set incorrectly, or your whiskey intake is set
right on target!
JUST KIDDING, and please * do not archive * ever.
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert G. Wright
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 8:27 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: I'm In Too
Almost every message I get is double-sent. What do I have set incorrectly?
Rob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 12:19 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: I'm In Too
Looks like it does, welcome!
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave Hertner
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 12:16 PM
To: RV10-List@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: I'm In Too
Dave Hertner here. This is a test to see if this thing works.
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| Subject: | Re: Wing incidence |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "son hoang" <son@hoangs.com>
When I built the 6A I had to set the wing incident angle
I visited Vans factory last week, flew N410RV with Gus Funnel , spoke to Rob
Butt and was told that with the 10QB kit the holes are all lined up for the
incident angle and the swept angle of the wings ......not so sure about the
standard build kit...I'll call Vans tomorrow to find out
Son Hoang N64SH 6A flying
10 tail kit ordered 3/21/05
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Wing incidence
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I was watching a thread on the regular generic RV Matronics forum
> about adjusting the wing incidence angle, I think after assembly
> and test flight.
>
> I'm just wondering...they were referring to RV-6 series planes, but
> what about our -10's. Maybe someone who's way ahead, like Randy,
> could answer this: Does that small alignment hole in the rear
> wing spar doubler actually take care of the whole wing incidence
> issue for you, since we have pre-punched, CAD designed airframes?
> It would seem we'd have less variability and more accuracy, and
> therefore have less to worry about.
>
> How did yours go Randy?...or anyone else?
>
> Tim
>
>
> --
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
> Wing Kit - Almost Complete
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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