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1. 06:55 AM - Re: [RV10] Help with aileron rigging (Tim Olson)
2. 07:04 AM - Re: About proseal on Rudders (Tim Olson)
3. 07:08 AM - Re: Seat upholstery pricing (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
4. 07:19 AM - Hours by section? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
5. 08:01 AM - Re: Seat upholstery pricing (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
6. 08:18 AM - Re: Wing incidence (Randy DeBauw)
7. 08:25 AM - Re: Hours by section? (Randy DeBauw)
8. 08:25 AM - Re: Re: [RV10] Help with aileron rigging (Randy DeBauw)
9. 08:39 AM - Re: Seat upholstery pricing (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
10. 08:56 AM - Re: Seat upholstery pricing (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
11. 09:05 AM - Re: Seat upholstery pricing (Randy DeBauw)
12. 09:51 AM - RV10 customer number (son hoang)
13. 09:55 AM - Re: Wing incidence (son hoang)
14. 10:21 AM - Re: RV10 customer number (Sean Stephens)
15. 10:24 AM - Re: RV10 customer number (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
16. 04:32 PM - Aileron Rigging (PJ Seipel)
17. 05:19 PM - Test Message (Jim Combs)
18. 05:26 PM - Re: Test Message (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
19. 05:29 PM - Test message (Jim Combs)
20. 06:41 PM - wingtip rib installation (David McNeill)
21. 07:07 PM - Re: wingtip rib installation (Tim Olson)
22. 07:20 PM - Re: wingtip rib installation (Sean Stephens)
23. 08:17 PM - Re: wingtip rib installation (Tim Olson)
24. 10:00 PM - RV10 impression (son hoang)
25. 10:21 PM - Re: RV10 impression (John W. Cox)
26. 10:32 PM - 7.9mm drill bit (Phil White)
27. 10:49 PM - Re: 7.9mm drill bit (Chris , Susie McGough)
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| Subject: | Re: [RV10] Help with aileron rigging |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
If my memory doesn't escape too far, I think I remember posts last
year about this subject, and possibly remember Randy telling me that
yes, people ended up enlarging the hole. My wings are all together,
and I've connected the ailerons temporarily. I should be able to test
for the rubbing at full deflection. At this point, since it's not
painted, just primed, if it hits I'll just be filing it larger,
deburring the hole, and re-priming. Not too big a deal. I used
temporary hardware to connect it.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
PJ wrote:
>
>
> I just finished rigging the aileron on my right wing. When I was
> finished, I noticed that at full up deflection, the aileron doesn't
> hit the stop on the aileron hinge bracket. Right before it gets
> there, the aileron to bellcrank pushrod binds up on the edge of the
> hole in the rear spar. Same thing at full down; it binds against the
> side of the hole before the nose of the aileron hits the gap fairing.
> I double checked twice to make sure everything was adjusted properly
> at neutral.
>
> I can't imagine the ailerons ever being deflected that much during
> flight, but I also don't want my pushrod rubbing against the rear spar
> either. Is this normal, or do I need to take it all apart and enlarge
> the hole? Or is there something else I'm missing?
>
> Thanks,
> PJ
> 40032
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: About proseal on Rudders |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Jeff,
I don't know if it's necessary to highly polish the angle iron if you
use it to be a back plate while riveting the trailing edge, BUT,
what I did was to use a belt sander to get rid of all the scale,
and then my deburring wheel to kind of smooth it out so that it
had a slight shine. I was worried about things like those
slight dimples you're talking of. I don't think it'll be
too big a deal though, as before you paint, you'll be sanding,
scotchbriting, and smoothing all the surfaces anyway. I plan to
actually fill in those shop head sides of the rivets too, with
putty.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
jefferywjohnson1949 wrote:
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> --- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Schmidt" <trpartners@c...> wrote:
>
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> Is it necessary to "polish" the angle iron if you use it as a back
> plate. My home made back plate is not very smooth and it seems to
> put slight dimples in the head.
>
>
>>I know Mike may not agree with me on this but I would just do as
>>Van's says. My edges turned out perfect. I just used the back
>>riveting plate and used a board the same thickness to shim the
>
> peice
>
>>of was working on. It was really easy to move it all around and
>>then slowly rivet each rivet until they were all flush with the
>>dimple. I'm sure both systems work but I was sure amazed at how
>>mine turned out especially as a new builder with no experience
>
> doing
>
>>it.
>>-Scott
>>
>>--- In RV10@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Howe" <mikemb@a...> wrote:
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>>>I am not using it on mine. It looks like the reason for using it
>>
>>is just
>>
>>>to "glue" the part in place for further riveting. We did it on the
>>>rudder. But again it is more work and messy. Just using the
>>
>>bucking bar
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>>>without the proseal produced nice tight, straight edges on the
>>
>>elevators
>>
>>>and ailerons. I am just about to do the flap now.
>>>Mike Howe
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: c12572 [mailto:maniravee@s...]
>>>Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 6:56 PM
>>>To: RV10@yahoogroups.com
>>>Subject: [RV10] About proseal on Rudders
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>>>Hi All, I am at the point where I have to order the proseal to
>>
>>rivet
>>
>>>the trailing edges of the rudder. Then, I have decided to go the
>>>route taken by Mike Howe/ Tim Olsen with a stretch of angle iron
>>>screwed down to the table as a back riveting plate. Does one
>>>use/need the proseal when doing this? Please let me know. Thanks
>>>Mani
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| Subject: | Seat upholstery pricing |
Randy
Is she also doing all of your other interior panels, like she does for
the other RV's? She does outstanding work on the pieces, and the detail
in covering everything is incredible. I want her to do my entire
interior, and was wondering how far off from a complete line she will
be, by using yours, we are all benefiting.
THX for letting the vendors use yours for their prototypes!
Dan
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Subject: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I have received the selling prices back from Abby at Flightline
Interiors.
Front seats: $650.00 a pair in cloth, vinyl, or combination like I have.
Rear sears: $675.00 a pair and that includes the foam.
Here is the link to her site. http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/
262-364-6166
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| Subject: | Hours by section? |
Out of curiosity, how many hours does everyone have in for:
* Tail kit inventory
* VS
* Rudder
* HS
I'm at 6, 14.2, 18, and 3.75 through preping the spars for alodine (basically through
8-5 pre-riveting). Just curious if I'm ahead, even or behind the curve.
Michael
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| Subject: | Seat upholstery pricing |
I asked this very question to Abby directly, here's her response:
Hi Bob, I was going to e-mail you this week. Yes, I have just gotten the
patterns done to make the front seat covers. I am still working on the
rear seats, the design is very similar to the front seats of the 7 and 9,
so I went with the pricing that I charge for those.
Leather is an option. I haven't made a set with leather yet,
so I can't honestly tell you the weight difference. It would be $500 more
for the set in leather.
The rear seats will be made from a high quality Fire Rated
foam with a top layer of visco-elastic foam for comfort.
As far as the sidewall pieces go, I don't have anything to
pattern yet. But I can supply anything that you would need as far as fabric,
carpet and floor foam in raw materials.
I may not have a complete interior yet but the front seats
will get you flying. These can be installed by you, so you won't have to
send the seats.
I am hoping to have new pictures on my website by the end of
the week. There will be three seat styles to choose from.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks, Abby
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
Randy
Is she also doing all of your other interior panels, like she does for the other
RV's? She does outstanding work on the pieces, and the detail in covering everything
is incredible. I want her to do my entire interior, and was wondering
how far off from a complete line she will be, by using yours, we are all benefiting.
THX for letting the vendors use yours for their prototypes!
Dan
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Subject: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I have received the selling prices back from Abby at Flightline Interiors.
Front seats: $650.00 a pair in cloth, vinyl, or combination like I have.
Rear sears: $675.00 a pair and that includes the foam.
Here is the link to her site. http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/ 262-364-6166
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
Yes, right from the plans and Ken Krugers mouth, don't mess with the angel of incidence.
I drove the shank end of a 1/8" drill bit into the hole with wing on,
this was more exact than just a cleco as the plans said. Clamped the rear
spar parts together. I made the hole larger in about 6 steps until I could start
my 3/8" reamer and then dropped the bolt in. I thinks the photos of how I
did it are on Tim's site. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Wing incidence
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I was watching a thread on the regular generic RV Matronics forum
about adjusting the wing incidence angle, I think after assembly
and test flight.
I'm just wondering...they were referring to RV-6 series planes, but
what about our -10's. Maybe someone who's way ahead, like Randy,
could answer this: Does that small alignment hole in the rear
wing spar doubler actually take care of the whole wing incidence
issue for you, since we have pre-punched, CAD designed airframes?
It would seem we'd have less variability and more accuracy, and
therefore have less to worry about.
How did yours go Randy?...or anyone else?
Tim
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
Wing Kit - Almost Complete
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Hours by section? |
I had about 465 hours into the tail kit. Don't worry about the time. You are
in a steep learning fase and your speed may very. The plane is fast so you don't
have to be. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Subject: RV10-List: Hours by section?
Out of curiosity, how many hours does everyone have in for:
* Tail kit inventory
* VS
* Rudder
* HS
I'm at 6, 14.2, 18, and 3.75 through preping the spars for alodine (basically through
8-5 pre-riveting). Just curious if I'm ahead, even or behind the curve.
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: [RV10] Help with aileron rigging |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
I think what actually happens is that the opposite side aileron hits before the
one rod hits. I started to relieve the extra material before I came up with the
revelation. I decided to stop messing with it and wait till both wings are
on. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Re: [RV10] Help with aileron rigging
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
If my memory doesn't escape too far, I think I remember posts last
year about this subject, and possibly remember Randy telling me that
yes, people ended up enlarging the hole. My wings are all together,
and I've connected the ailerons temporarily. I should be able to test
for the rubbing at full deflection. At this point, since it's not
painted, just primed, if it hits I'll just be filing it larger,
deburring the hole, and re-priming. Not too big a deal. I used
temporary hardware to connect it.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
PJ wrote:
>
>
> I just finished rigging the aileron on my right wing. When I was
> finished, I noticed that at full up deflection, the aileron doesn't
> hit the stop on the aileron hinge bracket. Right before it gets
> there, the aileron to bellcrank pushrod binds up on the edge of the
> hole in the rear spar. Same thing at full down; it binds against the
> side of the hole before the nose of the aileron hits the gap fairing.
> I double checked twice to make sure everything was adjusted properly
> at neutral.
>
> I can't imagine the ailerons ever being deflected that much during
> flight, but I also don't want my pushrod rubbing against the rear spar
> either. Is this normal, or do I need to take it all apart and enlarge
> the hole? Or is there something else I'm missing?
>
> Thanks,
> PJ
> 40032
>
>
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| Subject: | Seat upholstery pricing |
I can't remember the exact number, but I talked to Oregon Aero last year about
rear seats, and they mentioned a pretty competitive price for the rear seat foam
set (uncovered).
TDT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I asked this very question to Abby directly, here's her response:
Hi Bob, I was going to e-mail you this week. Yes, I have just gotten the
patterns done to make the front seat covers. I am still working on the
rear seats, the design is very similar to the front seats of the 7 and 9,
so I went with the pricing that I charge for those.
Leather is an option. I haven't made a set with leather yet,
so I can't honestly tell you the weight difference. It would be $500 more
for the set in leather.
The rear seats will be made from a high quality Fire Rated
foam with a top layer of visco-elastic foam for comfort.
As far as the sidewall pieces go, I don't have anything to
pattern yet. But I can supply anything that you would need as far as fabric,
carpet and floor foam in raw materials.
I may not have a complete interior yet but the front seats
will get you flying. These can be installed by you, so you won't have to
send the seats.
I am hoping to have new pictures on my website by the end of
the week. There will be three seat styles to choose from.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks, Abby
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
Randy
Is she also doing all of your other interior panels, like she does for the other
RV's? She does outstanding work on the pieces, and the detail in covering everything
is incredible. I want her to do my entire interior, and was wondering
how far off from a complete line she will be, by using yours, we are all benefiting.
THX for letting the vendors use yours for their prototypes!
Dan
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Subject: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I have received the selling prices back from Abby at Flightline Interiors.
Front seats: $650.00 a pair in cloth, vinyl, or combination like I have.
Rear sears: $675.00 a pair and that includes the foam.
Here is the link to her site. http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/ 262-364-6166
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| Subject: | Seat upholstery pricing |
Dan, I don't know if she is but I would assume she is. She needs some a plane closer
to her which Tim can supply. She is getting lots of calls already and you
might call here to add your name to the list. She is very very nice to work
with. Randy
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
Randy
Is she also doing all of your other interior panels, like she does for the other
RV's? She does outstanding work on the pieces, and the detail in covering everything
is incredible. I want her to do my entire interior, and was wondering
how far off from a complete line she will be, by using yours, we are all benefiting.
THX for letting the vendors use yours for their prototypes!
Dan
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Subject: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I have received the selling prices back from Abby at Flightline Interiors.
Front seats: $650.00 a pair in cloth, vinyl, or combination like I have.
Rear sears: $675.00 a pair and that includes the foam.
Here is the link to her site. http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/ 262-364-6166
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| Subject: | Seat upholstery pricing |
I bought my rear seat foam at Hi Tech Foam in Nebraska. After talking with Abby
I would have just bought it from here. I think I have 200.00 in rear seat foam
and won't have that many butts in them. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I can't remember the exact number, but I talked to Oregon Aero last year about
rear seats, and they mentioned a pretty competitive price for the rear seat foam
set (uncovered).
TDT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I asked this very question to Abby directly, here's her response:
Hi Bob, I was going to e-mail you this week. Yes, I have just gotten the
patterns done to make the front seat covers. I am still working on the
rear seats, the design is very similar to the front seats of the 7 and 9,
so I went with the pricing that I charge for those.
Leather is an option. I haven't made a set with leather yet,
so I can't honestly tell you the weight difference. It would be $500 more
for the set in leather.
The rear seats will be made from a high quality Fire Rated
foam with a top layer of visco-elastic foam for comfort.
As far as the sidewall pieces go, I don't have anything to
pattern yet. But I can supply anything that you would need as far as fabric,
carpet and floor foam in raw materials.
I may not have a complete interior yet but the front seats
will get you flying. These can be installed by you, so you won't have to
send the seats.
I am hoping to have new pictures on my website by the end of
the week. There will be three seat styles to choose from.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks, Abby
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
Randy
Is she also doing all of your other interior panels, like she does for the other
RV's? She does outstanding work on the pieces, and the detail in covering everything
is incredible. I want her to do my entire interior, and was wondering
how far off from a complete line she will be, by using yours, we are all benefiting.
THX for letting the vendors use yours for their prototypes!
Dan
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Subject: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I have received the selling prices back from Abby at Flightline Interiors.
Front seats: $650.00 a pair in cloth, vinyl, or combination like I have.
Rear sears: $675.00 a pair and that includes the foam.
Here is the link to her site. http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/ 262-364-6166
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| Subject: | RV10 customer number |
Seat upholstery pricingfor those who are interested
tail kit ordered 3/21/05 and the kit serial number is 376
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy DeBauw
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 9:02 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I bought my rear seat foam at Hi Tech Foam in Nebraska. After talking with Abby
I would have just bought it from here. I think I have 200.00 in rear seat
foam and won't have that many butts in them. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:37 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I can't remember the exact number, but I talked to Oregon Aero last year about
rear seats, and they mentioned a pretty competitive price for the rear seat
foam set (uncovered).
TDT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 10:58 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I asked this very question to Abby directly, here's her response:
Hi Bob, I was going to e-mail you this week. Yes, I have just gotten the
patterns done to make the front seat covers. I am still working on the
rear seats, the design is very similar to the front seats of the 7 and 9,
so I went with the pricing that I charge for those.
Leather is an option. I haven't made a set with leather yet,
so I can't honestly tell you the weight difference. It would be $500 more
for the set in leather.
The rear seats will be made from a high quality Fire Rated
foam with a top layer of visco-elastic foam for comfort.
As far as the sidewall pieces go, I don't have anything to
pattern yet. But I can supply anything that you would need as far as fabric,
carpet and floor foam in raw materials.
I may not have a complete interior yet but the front seats
will get you flying. These can be installed by you, so you won't have to
send the seats.
I am hoping to have new pictures on my website by the end of
the week. There will be three seat styles to choose from.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks, Abby
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:58 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
Randy
Is she also doing all of your other interior panels, like she does for
the other RV's? She does outstanding work on the pieces, and the detail in covering
everything is incredible. I want her to do my entire interior, and was wondering
how far off from a complete line she will be, by using yours, we are
all benefiting.
THX for letting the vendors use yours for their prototypes!
Dan
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:08 PM
To: Rv10-List (E-mail)
Subject: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I have received the selling prices back from Abby at Flightline Interiors.
Front seats: $650.00 a pair in cloth, vinyl, or combination like I have.
Rear sears: $675.00 a pair and that includes the foam.
Here is the link to her site. http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/ 262-364-6166
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| Subject: | Re: Wing incidence |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "son hoang" <son@hoangs.com>
Spoke to Gus at Vans this morning
I was told that the small alignment hole in the rear spar takes care of the
incidence angle
drill it out to size and then you are done...save many hrs of work and
anguish over the RV6 kit
----- Original Message -----
From: "son hoang" <son@hoangs.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing incidence
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "son hoang" <son@hoangs.com>
>
> When I built the 6A I had to set the wing incident angle
> I visited Vans factory last week, flew N410RV with Gus Funnel , spoke to
Rob
> Butt and was told that with the 10QB kit the holes are all lined up for
the
> incident angle and the swept angle of the wings ......not so sure about
the
> standard build kit...I'll call Vans tomorrow to find out
>
> Son Hoang N64SH 6A flying
> 10 tail kit ordered 3/21/05
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: "RV10" <RV10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 7:34 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Wing incidence
>
>
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> >
> > I was watching a thread on the regular generic RV Matronics forum
> > about adjusting the wing incidence angle, I think after assembly
> > and test flight.
> >
> > I'm just wondering...they were referring to RV-6 series planes, but
> > what about our -10's. Maybe someone who's way ahead, like Randy,
> > could answer this: Does that small alignment hole in the rear
> > wing spar doubler actually take care of the whole wing incidence
> > issue for you, since we have pre-punched, CAD designed airframes?
> > It would seem we'd have less variability and more accuracy, and
> > therefore have less to worry about.
> >
> > How did yours go Randy?...or anyone else?
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
> > Wing Kit - Almost Complete
> >
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 customer number |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
Wow, I remember when I was the new kid on the block at 303 only a few
months ago.
-Sean
DO NOT ARCHIVE
son hoang wrote:
> for those who are interested
>
> tail kit ordered 3/21/05 and the kit serial number is 376
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Randy DeBauw <mailto:Randy@abros.com>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2005 9:02 AM
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
>
> I bought my rear seat foam at Hi Tech Foam in Nebraska. After
> talking with Abby I would have just bought it from here. I think I
> have 200.00 in rear seat foam and won't have that many butts in
> them. Randy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of
> *Tim Dawson-Townsend
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:37 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
>
>
> I can't remember the exact number, but I talked to Oregon Aero
> last year about rear seats, and they mentioned a pretty
> competitive price for the rear seat foam set (uncovered).
>
> TDT
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of
> *Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2005 10:58 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
>
> I asked this very question to Abby directly, here's her
> response:
>
> Hi Bob, I was going to e-mail you this week. Yes, I have
> just gotten the
>
> patterns done to make the front seat covers. I am still
> working on the
>
> rear seats, the design is very similar to the front seats
> of the 7 and 9,
>
> so I went with the pricing that I charge for those.
>
> Leather is an option. I haven't made a set with leather yet,
>
> so I can't honestly tell you the weight difference. It
> would be $500 more
>
> for the set in leather.
>
> The rear seats will be made from a high quality Fire Rated
>
> foam with a top layer of visco-elastic foam for comfort.
>
> As far as the sidewall pieces go, I don't have anything to
>
> pattern yet. But I can supply anything that you would need
> as far as fabric,
>
> carpet and floor foam in raw materials.
>
> I may not have a complete interior yet but the front seats
>
> will get you flying. These can be installed by you, so you
> won't have to
>
> send the seats.
>
> I am hoping to have new pictures on my website by the end of
>
> the week. There will be three seat styles to choose from.
>
> Let me know if you have any other questions.
>
> Thanks, Abby
>
>
>
> Bob #40105
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]*On
> Behalf Of *Lloyd, Daniel R.
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:58 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
>
> Randy
> Is she also doing all of your other interior panels,
> like she does for the other RV's? She does outstanding
> work on the pieces, and the detail in covering
> everything is incredible. I want her to do my entire
> interior, and was wondering how far off from a
> complete line she will be, by using yours, we are all
> benefiting.
> THX for letting the vendors use yours for their
> prototypes!
> Dan
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Randy DeBauw
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:08 PM
> *To:* Rv10-List (E-mail)
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
>
> I have received the selling prices back from Abby at
> Flightline Interiors.
> Front seats: $650.00 a pair in cloth, vinyl, or
> combination like I have.
> Rear sears: $675.00 a pair and that includes the foam.
>
> Here is the link to her site.
> http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/
> <http://my.execpc.com/%7Eerdmannb/> 262-364-6166
>
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| Subject: | RV10 customer number |
All right! 376 kits! If we keep this up, we can pass the RV-7 guys . . . :
)
TDT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of son hoang
Subject: RV10-List: RV10 customer number
for those who are interested
tail kit ordered 3/21/05 and the kit serial number is 376
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy DeBauw <mailto:Randy@abros.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I bought my rear seat foam at Hi Tech Foam in Nebraska. After talking with Abby
I would have just bought it from here. I think I have 200.00 in rear seat foam
and won't have that many butts in them. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I can't remember the exact number, but I talked to Oregon Aero last year about
rear seats, and they mentioned a pretty competitive price for the rear seat foam
set (uncovered).
TDT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I asked this very question to Abby directly, here's her response:
Hi Bob, I was going to e-mail you this week. Yes, I have just gotten the
patterns done to make the front seat covers. I am still working on the
rear seats, the design is very similar to the front seats of the 7 and 9,
so I went with the pricing that I charge for those.
Leather is an option. I haven't made a set with leather yet,
so I can't honestly tell you the weight difference. It would be $500 more
for the set in leather.
The rear seats will be made from a high quality Fire Rated
foam with a top layer of visco-elastic foam for comfort.
As far as the sidewall pieces go, I don't have anything to
pattern yet. But I can supply anything that you would need as far as fabric,
carpet and floor foam in raw materials.
I may not have a complete interior yet but the front seats
will get you flying. These can be installed by you, so you won't have to
send the seats.
I am hoping to have new pictures on my website by the end of
the week. There will be three seat styles to choose from.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thanks, Abby
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
Randy
Is she also doing all of your other interior panels, like she does for the other
RV's? She does outstanding work on the pieces, and the detail in covering everything
is incredible. I want her to do my entire interior, and was wondering
how far off from a complete line she will be, by using yours, we are all benefiting.
THX for letting the vendors use yours for their prototypes!
Dan
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Subject: RV10-List: Seat upholstery pricing
I have received the selling prices back from Abby at Flightline Interiors.
Front seats: $650.00 a pair in cloth, vinyl, or combination like I have.
Rear sears: $675.00 a pair and that includes the foam.
Here is the link to her site. http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/ 262-364-6166
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--> RV10-List message posted by: PJ Seipel <seipel@seznam.cz>
I just finished rigging the aileron on my right wing. When I was
finished, I noticed that at full up deflection, the aileron doesn't hit
the stop on the aileron hinge bracket. Right before it gets there, the
aileron to bellcrank pushrod binds up on the edge of the hole in the
rear spar. Same thing at full down; it binds against the side of the
hole before the nose of the aileron hits the gap fairing.
I double checked twice to make sure everything was adjusted properly at
neutral.
I can't imagine the ailerons ever being deflected that much during
flight, but I also don't want my pushrod rubbing against the rear spar
either. Is this normal, or do I need to take it all apart and enlarge
the hole? Or is there something else I'm missing?
Thanks,
PJ
40032
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
Test message.
Moving to this list forum too!
JimC
#40192 - Finishing Wings
Lexington, Ky
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
Here from Yahoo.
Jim Combs
#40192 - Finishing Wings / Fuse ordered
Lexington, Ky
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| Subject: | wingtip rib installation |
Note that the picture on Section 24 is incorrect. The picture shows the left wing
and tip. The picture shows installation of the W-1016-L in the left wing tip
(flange outboard). The correct rib to install there is the W-1016-R (right flange
as seen from top view fore to aft, flange inboard (in this case "right").
Van's explanation is that the ribs are labeled left and right, not for which
wing the inhabit but which way the flange extends. Anyway the Section 24 picture
is wrong and your tips will reflex the wrong direction if installed according
to the picture.
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip rib installation |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
By golly David is right! I was just about up to this step...nice to
see he pointed this out before I got there! Take a peek at this
page from the plans:
http://www.myrv10.com/Plans/24_Plans01.html
You can easily see that the flanges face outboard as he states.
Think it will be easy to rivet the flange to the wingtip with the
flange facing inside?? NOT.
Thanks for pointing that out David!
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
Wing Kit - Almost Complete
DO NOT ARCHIVE
David McNeill wrote:
> Note that the picture on Section 24 is incorrect. The picture shows the
> left wing and tip. The picture shows installation of the W-1016-L in the
> left wing tip (flange outboard). The correct rib to install there is the
> W-1016-R (right flange as seen from top view fore to aft, flange inboard
> (in this case "right"). Van's explanation is that the ribs are labeled
> left and right, not for which wing the inhabit but which way the flange
> extends. Anyway the Section 24 picture is wrong and your tips will
> reflex the wrong direction if installed according to the picture.
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip rib installation |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
Hey Tim,
Sorry to bring up a sore subject, but how were you wing tip issues
resolved? Did you get new ones from Vans?
-Sean #40303 (SB wing kit ordered)
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
>
> By golly David is right! I was just about up to this step...nice to
> see he pointed this out before I got there! Take a peek at this
> page from the plans:
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/Plans/24_Plans01.html
>
> You can easily see that the flanges face outboard as he states.
> Think it will be easy to rivet the flange to the wingtip with the
> flange facing inside?? NOT.
>
> Thanks for pointing that out David!
>
> Tim
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
> Wing Kit - Almost Complete
>
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> David McNeill wrote:
>
>> Note that the picture on Section 24 is incorrect. The picture shows
>> the left wing and tip. The picture shows installation of the W-1016-L
>> in the left wing tip (flange outboard). The correct rib to install
>> there is the W-1016-R (right flange as seen from top view fore to
>> aft, flange inboard (in this case "right"). Van's explanation is that
>> the ribs are labeled left and right, not for which wing the inhabit
>> but which way the flange extends. Anyway the Section 24 picture is
>> wrong and your tips will reflex the wrong direction if installed
>> according to the picture.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wingtip rib installation |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Suprised you remembered... :) Actually, the tip got delivered to them
Monday, and I haven't heard what the outcome was. I'll have to
call them tomorrow and see what the plan is. Hopefully they'll
send a new on with my QB fuse. The shipping was really a pain, so
I darn well hope I don't see the same tip come back....or a big delay
while it gets rebuilt by the maker. I'll update you as soon
as I hear.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Sean Stephens wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
>
> Hey Tim,
>
> Sorry to bring up a sore subject, but how were you wing tip issues
> resolved? Did you get new ones from Vans?
>
> -Sean #40303 (SB wing kit ordered)
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>>
>> By golly David is right! I was just about up to this step...nice to
>> see he pointed this out before I got there! Take a peek at this
>> page from the plans:
>>
>> http://www.myrv10.com/Plans/24_Plans01.html
>>
>> You can easily see that the flanges face outboard as he states.
>> Think it will be easy to rivet the flange to the wingtip with the
>> flange facing inside?? NOT.
>>
>> Thanks for pointing that out David!
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
>> Wing Kit - Almost Complete
>>
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>> David McNeill wrote:
>>
>>> Note that the picture on Section 24 is incorrect. The picture shows
>>> the left wing and tip. The picture shows installation of the W-1016-L
>>> in the left wing tip (flange outboard). The correct rib to install
>>> there is the W-1016-R (right flange as seen from top view fore to
>>> aft, flange inboard (in this case "right"). Van's explanation is that
>>> the ribs are labeled left and right, not for which wing the inhabit
>>> but which way the flange extends. Anyway the Section 24 picture is
>>> wrong and your tips will reflex the wrong direction if installed
>>> according to the picture.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Hi All
I went to Aurora, OR to visit the Vans factory and test flew the RV10
(N410RV) last week
I did this on purpose so I would have the opportunity to really check out
the plane instead of test flying it in the chaotic environment of an air
show
I was very impressed with the smoothness of the IO540 6 cylinders engine and
the blended airfoil 2 blade prop
Gus (company pilot) and I carried out a conversation without the headset
when the engine was at idle ...we did not have to raise our voice...how nice
we did not use the noise canceling headset (Vans' standard issue !!) ...no
problem...
even with minimal insulation (i.e.. none) the plane noticeably lacked the
vibration that I was accustomed to in many RVs that I had the opportunity to
fly in....
it must be the 6 cylinders engine
410RV climbed out at about 1700 fpm @ 140 mph with Gus (company pilot - tall
and probably about 175 lbs) and I (150 lbs) with the tanks more than half
full
at 3500 ft as soon as I leveled the plane with 24 in. and 2500 rpm it
accelerated to about 185-190 mph indicated..Gus commented that 410RV is as
fast or even faster than 200 hp RV7...and based on my brief experience I
believe him....I was too busy to take note of more performance numbers but
this plane was fast and powerful
stalls and slow flight are straight forward and benign just like an
RV9...controls are heavier than the 6A that I normally fly..that's by
design..these 10 really are meant for cross country and certainly suitable
for everyday IFR flying ...the flare to landing required almost full aft
stick (Gus even put some ballast in the baggage area) ...it was nose
heavy......
Rob Butt (factory tech counselor) took me for a tour of the factory (I did
this same tour 2 years ago before I built the 6A)..
the company now employs about 70 people and I believe Rob told me it is now
30 % owned by employees (I like that ownership concept)
what impressed me most was the improvement in the kit and the manual and
construction instructions...I used to envy the Lanceair guys for the quality
of their construction manuals....
well envy no more...... Vans finally catch up to the 21st century with the
RV10 construction manuals
you no longer have to do the wing incident angle...the alignment
holes are prepunched resulting in much more accurate measurement and much
time saving..the tail/fuselage fairings fit much much better...the
intersection fairings between the fuselage and the gear are now included in
the kit...the standard instrument panel comes in 3 sections so installation
and servicing radios will be easy
etc. etc. etc.
you do not have to make reservation for the factory tour or the demo flight
....just show up during working hours and request one
for the demo flight on the RV10 a $50 fee is charged ...it is credited back
when you buy the kit
I paid the $50 in cash....as much as I was in love with the plane I did not
order a kit ....I was disciplined I did not want to buy on impulse..
there needs to be a cooling off period.....
well the 3 days cooling off period was over.... I ordered an RV10 tail kit
last Monday 3/21/05...it is scheduled to deliver to my hangar at WHP next
Wed 03/30/05
I am now a repeat offender (enjoy a 3% discount off the airframe cost)
sorry for the long post
Son Hoang
N64SH -flying 6A
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Thanks for the great, comprehensive and useful post.
Are we having fun over hear at Matronics yet?.
Thanks Son and Tim
John - KUAO
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of son hoang
Subject: RV10-List: RV10 impression
Hi All
I went to Aurora, OR to visit the Vans factory and test flew the RV10
(N410RV) last week
I did this on purpose so I would have the opportunity to really check out
the plane instead of test flying it in the chaotic environment of an air
show
I was very impressed with the smoothness of the IO540 6 cylinders engine and
the blended airfoil 2 blade prop
Gus (company pilot) and I carried out a conversation without the headset
when the engine was at idle ...we did not have to raise our voice...how
nice
we did not use the noise canceling headset (Vans' standard issue !!) ...no
problem...
even with minimal insulation (i.e.. none) the plane noticeably lacked the
vibration that I was accustomed to in many RVs that I had the opportunity
to
fly in....
it must be the 6 cylinders engine
410RV climbed out at about 1700 fpm @ 140 mph with Gus (company pilot - tall
and probably about 175 lbs) and I (150 lbs) with the tanks more than half
full
at 3500 ft as soon as I leveled the plane with 24 in. and 2500 rpm it
accelerated to about 185-190 mph indicated..Gus commented that 410RV is as
fast or even faster than 200 hp RV7...and based on my brief experience I
believe him....I was too busy to take note of more performance numbers but
this plane was fast and powerful
stalls and slow flight are straight forward and benign just like an
RV9...controls are heavier than the 6A that I normally fly..that's by
design..these 10 really are meant for cross country and certainly suitable
for everyday IFR flying ...the flare to landing required almost full aft
stick (Gus even put some ballast in the baggage area) ...it was nose
heavy......
Rob Butt (factory tech counselor) took me for a tour of the factory (I did
this same tour 2 years ago before I built the 6A)..
the company now employs about 70 people and I believe Rob told me it is now
30 % owned by employees (I like that ownership concept)
what impressed me most was the improvement in the kit and the manual and
construction instructions...I used to envy the Lanceair guys for the
quality
of their construction manuals....
well envy no more...... Vans finally catch up to the 21st century with the
RV10 construction manuals
you no longer have to do the wing incident angle...the alignment
holes are prepunched resulting in much more accurate measurement and much
time saving..the tail/fuselage fairings fit much much better...the
intersection fairings between the fuselage and the gear are now included in
the kit...the standard instrument panel comes in 3 sections so installation
and servicing radios will be easy
etc. etc. etc.
you do not have to make reservation for the factory tour or the demo flight
....just show up during working hours and request one
for the demo flight on the RV10 a $50 fee is charged ...it is credited back
when you buy the kit
I paid the $50 in cash....as much as I was in love with the plane I did not
order a kit ....I was disciplined I did not want to buy on impulse..
there needs to be a cooling off period.....
well the 3 days cooling off period was over.... I ordered an RV10 tail kit
last Monday 3/21/05...it is scheduled to deliver to my hangar at WHP next
Wed 03/30/05
I am now a repeat offender (enjoy a 3% discount off the airframe cost)
sorry for the long post
Son Hoang
N64SH -flying 6A
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Phil White" <philwhite9@aol.com>
Has anyone purchased the 7.9mm (.311 inch) drill bit that the plans call
for to drill the main gear leg sockets? Need a source for an affordable
bit, or perhaps we might share a bit among several builders.
I learned that Bisco FL carries the metric bit at $2.45 plus at least
$7 shipping. Van's tech support told me that they call for this bit
that is 1.5 thousanths undersize because 5/16" bolts run undersize, and
they want a snug fit for this only bolt that holds our gear leg on!
Any thoughts?
Phil #40220 (emp & wings done, fuse about 50%) I switched too!
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| Subject: | Re: 7.9mm drill bit |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Are you telling us you have to drill the gear leg Holes ??
We had to do this on the 6 Tail ...pain in the but.
Chris
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From: "Phil White" <philwhite9@aol.com>
Subject: RV10-List: 7.9mm drill bit
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phil White" <philwhite9@aol.com>
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> Has anyone purchased the 7.9mm (.311 inch) drill bit that the plans call
> for to drill the main gear leg sockets? Need a source for an affordable
> bit, or perhaps we might share a bit among several builders.
> I learned that Bisco FL carries the metric bit at $2.45 plus at least
> $7 shipping. Van's tech support told me that they call for this bit
> that is 1.5 thousanths undersize because 5/16" bolts run undersize, and
> they want a snug fit for this only bolt that holds our gear leg on!
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> Any thoughts?
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