---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/30/05: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:43 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Attach Bracket Shims (Rick) 2. 07:08 AM - Re: Sun And fun : Contact Info (Lloyd, Daniel R.) 3. 07:54 AM - Re: VOR/GS Antenna (Jesse Saint) 4. 08:07 AM - Re: VOR/GS Antenna (LessDragProd@aol.com) 5. 08:43 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Attach Bracket Shims (Napoli, Nikolaos (Contr)) 6. 09:25 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Attach Bracket Shims (Rick) 7. 09:38 AM - Re: VOR/GS Antenna (Rick) 8. 10:04 AM - Re: VOR/GS Antenna (Tim Dawson-Townsend) 9. 02:59 PM - Re: VOR/GS Antenna (Jesse Saint) 10. 07:37 PM - Rear Seat Cushions (DejaVu) 11. 08:36 PM - Aileron/flap alignment (Richard Sipp) 12. 09:11 PM - Re: Window & Windshield Install (Shawn Moon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:16 AM PST US From: Rick Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Attach Bracket Shims --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick Niko, The forward portion of the shim is dimpled, the aft holes which sit on the tank brace are not dimpled or countersunk at this time. If you had the Fuse plans to look at you would see how these holes come into play. FWIW the installation portion of the root filler sheeting only tells you to dimple or countersink as needed when you do the install. Since your quick build, I don't think you had to countersink the root fairing attach holes. Look at the root, those series of holes that are right in the edge of the skin were countersunk in assembly. You will do the same thing if needed on the tank brace when the time comes to install the gap filler. Also it is easier to install and dimple the rivets on the shim prior to attaching to the tank brace if you have that option. Rick S. 40185 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:47 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun And fun : Contact Info From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." I like the Idea of a map, with contact info, maybe we could create it so that when you hover over a dot, a pic comes up with contact info, kinda like the trading cards that were going around? How cool would it be when you run into a problem, you look on the map and get contact info for the closest 10? I would be happy to help coordinate this. Dan '269 Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: Sun And fun : Contact Info --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Ok, last night I did some work on the page so the base of it is all ready to go. What I have is a page that lists the following: Name(plus kit#), Email, Home Locale, Contact number, which days. Here's a sample page: http://www.myrv10.com/snf2 I hope the password thing isn't too cumbersome, but I really don't think everyone wants their cell #'s blasted all over the net, and their email addresses skimmed from the page for spamming, so it's protected for your benefit. The only people who get the list, are the people who are ON the list. Just Email me (A PERSONAL EMAIL) with your info, and I'll put you on the list and send you the password. The actual list will be at the same link as above, but drop the "2" from the end. I've included the Locale field because as I get this info, my plan is to make a map of the US and canada (sorry to those who are out of the US), and put a dot on the map where all the builders are. After SNF is over, as soon as I can get to it, I'll put the map on the website too so that builders can see where other builders are. I do want to help protect your privacy though, so please understand about the password thing. I don't get much spam, and I want to keep it that way for all of us. PS: Grab my email address from the top of this message, or from my main page contact link at http://www.myrv10.com --- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 DO NOT ARCHIVE Mani Ravee wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee" > > > So I guess there are 3 people on this list who will be there. Cool. Maybe we > can fly in the _10 all three of us all day long! :) > Tim sounds like a good Idea. I will be there later part of Thursday, and > will make it straight to Van's place there. So if we want to exchange cell > #s, would be a good idea. > Mani ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:52 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: VOR/GS Antenna clamav-milter version 0.80j on osiris Will one of these antennas work for both VOR and GS? Thanks for all the help. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LessDragProd@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: VOR/GS Antenna You can call Bob Archer direct at (310) 316-8796. Or email him at bobsantennas@earthlink.com Wingtip antenna's are $65 each plus shipping from Bob. I just ordered two of these antenna's for a friends Cessna 210. Seems he got tired of my cheap radio's receiving the NAV signal farther away than his factory certified installation. :-) Regards, Jim Ayers Less Drag Products, Inc. In a message dated 03/29/2005 11:42:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, dlm46007@cox.net writes: I believe Bob Archer also sells direct from his website. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:12 AM PST US From: LessDragProd@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: VOR/GS Antenna NAV and GS from one NAV antenna? The signal from the NAV antenna coax may need to go through a splitter if your radio requires separate connections to the radio for NAV and GS. The use of the splitter seems to be a common avionics installation practice. Regards, Jim Ayers ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:20 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Attach Bracket Shims From: "Napoli, Nikolaos (Contr)" --> RV10-List message posted by: "Napoli, Nikolaos (Contr)" Thanks for the info Rick. Actually I have the standard wing kit, the standard fuselage kit will be arriving in another month so I could wait till then. What I understand from what you are saying is dimple all the rivet holes on the upper and lower shims and countersink the corresponding holes on the tank attach brace. Dimple the two aft screw holes on the top shim per the instructions. Do not dimple or countersink the remaining screw holes at this time. thanks again Niko -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Attach Bracket Shims --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick Niko, The forward portion of the shim is dimpled, the aft holes which sit on the tank brace are not dimpled or countersunk at this time. If you had the Fuse plans to look at you would see how these holes come into play. FWIW the installation portion of the root filler sheeting only tells you to dimple or countersink as needed when you do the install. Since your quick build, I don't think you had to countersink the root fairing attach holes. Look at the root, those series of holes that are right in the edge of the skin were countersunk in assembly. You will do the same thing if needed on the tank brace when the time comes to install the gap filler. Also it is easier to install and dimple the rivets on the shim prior to attaching to the tank brace if you have that option. Rick S. 40185 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:29 AM PST US From: Rick Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Tank Attach Bracket Shims --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick Niko, If I recall the #19 holes on the brace are not countersunk until you get to install the Wing Root gap seals. The overhanging/forward portion of the shim gets dimpled for a #8 screws and nutplates. Only countersink the rivet holes on the brace for the nutplates and dimple the #40 nutplate holes on the shim that attaches to the brace. My thoughts are you countersink the heavier aluminum on the tank brace, right through the shims when you get to that part of the wing installation. The same way you countersunk the wing skins at the wing root. These nutplates at the root are used to attach the same root gap filler that will attach to the shims and tank brace. The seam for this filler is at the shim. It is two pieces, one goes from the dimpled holes in the shim forward and wraps around the leading edge, the other piece goes from the aft holes in the shim back towards the trailing edge. There is some trimming involved I'm sure and why it's not counter sunk now who knows, but it is addressed in the fuselage plans when to do it during the installation of the gap filler. For now just drill for #19, dimple for #8 and dimple and install the nutplates on the forward portion of the shim. It makes a whole lot more sense if you could see the fuse plans, I had the same questions and I read over the fuse plans and it made total sense what was going on after that. I can fax you the page that will explain it but not until tomorrow morning, I'll shrink it down and send it to you. Once you see it it makes it seem so simple. Hope I didn't beat this up too much. Rick ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:47 AM PST US From: Rick Subject: Re: RV10-List: VOR/GS Antenna DNA: do not archive Its-Bogus: do not forward to list --- MIME Errors --- A message with no text/plain section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using plaintext formatting. NOTE! This error can also occur when the poster of the message has a specific type of computer virus. This virus WAS NOT forwarded on to the List. The poster should be informed of the potential problem with their system as soon as possible. --- MIME Errors --- ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:04:27 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: VOR/GS Antenna From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" SL30 has built-in diplexer . . . TDT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Subject: Re: RV10-List: VOR/GS Antenna --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick Yeppers, Diplexor (aka splitter) for GS/Nav. Or triplexer for Nav1, Nav2 & GS. Only problem is cost. about $75 for the Diplexor and I think about $95 for the Triplexor. Almost the same cost as running another antenna if needed. I think some nav/comm units have them built into them but not sure. Check with your avionics manufac. to see what antenna requirments are going to be. RG 400 cable is also pricey and heavy, the less of that you need the better. I plan on using the Archer wingtips for nav and comm. Going to use one belly whip for Comm 1, put Comm2 in the tip. Rick ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:48 PM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: VOR/GS Antenna clamav-milter version 0.80j on mercury You guys are awesome! Thanks for the help. Do not archive! Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Subject: RE: RV10-List: VOR/GS Antenna SL30 has built-in diplexer . . . TDT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Subject: Re: RV10-List: VOR/GS Antenna --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick Yeppers, Diplexor (aka splitter) for GS/Nav. Or triplexer for Nav1, Nav2 & GS. Only problem is cost. about $75 for the Diplexor and I think about $95 for the Triplexor. Almost the same cost as running another antenna if needed. I think some nav/comm units have them built into them but not sure. Check with your avionics manufac. to see what antenna requirments are going to be. RG 400 cable is also pricey and heavy, the less of that you need the better. I plan on using the Archer wingtips for nav and comm. Going to use one belly whip for Comm 1, put Comm2 in the tip. ========================================= Features Subscriptions ==================================== ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:47 PM PST US From: "DejaVu" Subject: RV10-List: Rear Seat Cushions Are there sources to get the rear seat cushions other than OA? Anh #141 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:24 PM PST US s=test1; d=earthlink.net; b=j7fHToTV3IKGSuXfQ3eKtH9lS4SdM3fEW8fZ7I41Uq6uvoqNrdiXzaPIJVuHQvro; From: "Richard Sipp" Subject: RV10-List: Aileron/flap alignment For those who have mounted ailerons and flaps, are you seeing a difference in the trailing edge alignment in the chord dimension? My aileron is about .25 in shorter in chord than the flap. Thanks Dick Sipp 40065 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:49 PM PST US s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=kbdAb+ka//PXzsb3U4z6c6PH5SL81RjdR8ugmPLee6XBcGWCsEc/oYVh+QbjgmnvyQrBrP8vO59kaydxdC8SsAVkozclwxf8DuN8I0Y78JucuO1SpB4XlZXhvW/usPhdqAgkwTYZKleBunFQ/jaTi0uof24hP4SB7LMNCmYhXWw= ; From: Shawn Moon Subject: RE: RV10-List: Window & Windshield Install That seems right, but I will have to check with her when she gets back from DC. The material might make a difference as well. If I recall correctly, the RV-10 uses plexiglass and the big boys use actual glass. Does proseal have fumes that might distort or fog plexiglass? Brian Denk wrote:--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >I used 4 tubes total but 5 is not out of the question. One thing to know. >It is very runny. I talked to Ken Kruger and he was going to call and see >if you can mix with some kind on thickener. 2 fiberglass people have told >me that you could. The rear windows are a mess with it thin. Mask off >everything before you install them. Randy Man, why can't we just use Proseal? If memory serves me, Shawn Moon's wife said that's what they use on the airliner windows. True, Shawn? Brian Denk RV8 N94BD RV10 '51 ---------------------------------