Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:07 AM - Re: QB fuselage (Russell Daves)
2. 07:12 AM - Edge rolling (Bill and Tami Britton)
3. 07:28 AM - Re: Edge rolling (Tim Olson)
4. 09:58 AM - Re: Edge rolling (Rick)
5. 04:55 PM - Re: QB fuselage (Chris , Susie McGough)
6. 05:52 PM - Picture Attachments (Jim Combs)
7. 06:07 PM - Re: Picture Attachments (linn walters)
8. 06:23 PM - Re: Picture Attachments (Tim Olson)
9. 06:31 PM - Re: QB fuselage (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
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Before you take out any tempory rivets you NEED to start at the very bigging of
the QB plans and go through them page by page to check the status of the QB work
already done. I just took a marker and checked off each step and dog eared
the page and used a red pen to mark parts not yet done.
I had one of the first QB deliveries and you can't depend on the plans. There
were even parts not sent that were supposed to have already been installed. Front
floor panels for example.
The thing you need to remember about the RV-10 QB is that this is a new project
and it will take a couple of years for the system to get completly refined to
the point that the RV-7 QB is as of today.
One of the things that I just completed was creating (not in plans) access panels
in the rear baggage floors so that I could install a transponder antenna and
a COM whip antenna on either side of the baggage floor area but still have access
to them after the baggage floors are riveted down.
Russ Daves
#40044 (Putting on Baggage Door today)
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Is it necessary to edge roll the HS skins??? They have some overhang behind the
rear spar so this question came up. Also, how much bend is in the aluminum
(How much edge rolling is necessary???)?
TIA
Bill Britton
RV-10 Emp #40137
HS Primed, c'sinking HS spars, then driving rivets
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| Subject: | Re: Edge rolling |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
If it's necessary, the plans will call for it. I can't remember
how that section reads anymore, but it will specifically say
if you need to or not. Mine are not edged rolled on the trailing
edge of the HS, so I assume it's not in the plans.
When you do have to edge roll something, just a slight bend is usually
all you want. It's not something easily measured, but just keep
in mind that the idea is just to prevent the skin from folding
outward and causing a gap when you put the rivets in and things
are clamped tight. It won't take much of a bend.
PS: Nice to be able to get a reply on a saturday, huh. ;)
Tim #40170
Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> Is it necessary to edge roll the HS skins??? They have some overhang
> behind the rear spar so this question came up. Also, how much bend is
> in the aluminum (How much edge rolling is necessary???)?
>
> TIA
> Bill Britton
> RV-10 Emp #40137
> HS Primed, c'sinking HS spars, then driving rivets
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| Subject: | Re: Edge rolling |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Bill,
I didn't roll mine, the elevator fits perfectly with the skins following their
natural line from the leading edge to the trailing edge.
Rick S.
40185
wings
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Hey David how about some pics so we can see how much is done on the QB.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Subject: RV10-List: QB fuselage
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
>
> Just finishing the inventory of the QB fuselage, finish kit and FF kit.
> Van's does a good job to ensure everything is there. For others who worked
> the QB fuselage: Is there a specific section of the plans that are
> complete and specific sections left undone or did you just drill out the
> temporary rivets and start checking from the beginning of the slow build
> plans? Or are there specific QB plans?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 6:30 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Flow Transducer
>
>
>> Ok, let's give it a try. First picture is of a FloScan 231 - you can see
>> how the mounting holes are diagonally opposed relative to the input &
>> output ports. Second picture is the EI FT-60 which has a larger spacing
>> between mounting holes and they're both on the same side relative to the
>> input & output ports.
>>
>>
>> Bob #40105
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Fri 04/08/2005 07:47 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Flow Transducer
>>
>>
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>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> Hey Bob,
>>
>> Just FYI, Matt Dralle actually did a change to the list when we hopped
>> over here. You can now attach an image if you want. Try sending a
>> .jpg to the list....I think it will go.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
>> > Randy,
>> >
>> > Not sure when they changed - maybe when they went from the ACS-2002 to
>> > AF-2500? I just looked at my transducer and it's an Electronics
>> > Internation FT-60 (Red Cube). Instead of having the mounting holes on
>> > diagonal corners, it has them on a single side spaced 1 3/8" center to
>> > center which is a little further apart than the Van's supplied bracket
>> > holes. I just checked on the AFS website and they show this unit in
>> > the latest manual on page 40:
>>
>> > http://advanced-control-systems.com/MonitorSupport/AF-2500%20System%20Manual%20V3.0.pdf
>> >
>> > I snapped a picture of it but the list will strips off attachments.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Randy
>> > DeBauw
>> > Sent: Fri 04/08/2005 03:46 PM
>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> > Cc:
>> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Flow Transducer
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
>> >
>> > Mine fit fine Bob. I put it in 9 months ago. When did they
>> > change? Randy
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>> > Condrey, Bob
>> > (US SSA)
>> > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:19 PM
>> > To: RV10-List@matronics.com
>> > Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Flow Transducer
>> >
>> >
>> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
>> > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>> >
>> > Heads up - I ordered the fuel flow transducer for an AF-2500
>> > (formerly ACS-2002) and the sensor that they provided was different
>> > than the bracket supplied in the kit was designed to take. Very easy
>> > to fix before riveting the various fuselage ribs, skins, etc. in place.
>> > Unfortunately, difficult to change the bracket when you get to the
>> > chapter on plumbing the fuel system. Problem is simply that the holes
>> > aren't spaced or aligned the same. I'll post info on the unit supplied
>> > later today or over the weekend.
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| Subject: | Picture Attachments |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
I don't seem to see any of the attachments in my E-Mails?
Do I have to go to the matronics site?
Also, It would be helpful to delete old E-Mail attachments (except for any particular
phrases from old E-Mails.
Thanks, Jim Combs
#40192
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| Subject: | Re: Picture Attachments |
--> RV10-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Jim Combs wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
>
>I don't seem to see any of the attachments in my E-Mails?
>
>Do I have to go to the matronics site?
>
>Also, It would be helpful to delete old E-Mail attachments (except for any particular
phrases from old E-Mails.
>
>Thanks, Jim Combs
>
>#40192
>
I use Netscape as my browser and when there is an attached file (.jpg,
or .txt etc) it will open it and display it at the end of the email. I
t will not execute .exe's or some of the other executables that may
contain viruses. These are checked by my virus program (free from
http://www.grisoft.com/doc/1) but I still don't like for them to be
opened automatically. Your comment about deleting the attachments when
you reply is a good one ..... and unless you REALLY want your email to
be archived ...... omit the 'do not archive' phrase. I noticed you did
that Jim .... so it's there for eternity ..... unless Matt deletes them
or moves them to the archive archive :-D .
I'm off to SNF for the duration ..... hope y'all miss me!!!
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: Picture Attachments |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Heya Jim,
I do think that it's probably you email program or a filter by
your ISP or work or something that would strip the attachment.
I saw the one of the multi-colored jet that was posted the other
day. I'm using Mozilla Thunderbird to read mail and have no
problems. Also, when I reply, it doesn't include the attachment
in my reply if i don't use HTML email. (Plain text is better
for the world anyway)
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Jim Combs wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
>
> I don't seem to see any of the attachments in my E-Mails?
>
> Do I have to go to the matronics site?
>
> Also, It would be helpful to delete old E-Mail attachments (except for any particular
phrases from old E-Mails.
>
> Thanks, Jim Combs
>
> #40192
>
>
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I'll keep posting these in case we eventually get a hit.
Anyone have a Finish Kit delivery they would like to hold off for a bit? Avoid
having to pay your kit cost balance by swapping delivery positions with us.
We hesitated to gather some cash flow back in January and it seems like a lot
of people have "jumped ahead" in line. Now we're cooling our heels with a completed
fuselage and no Finish Kit.
If you have a Finish kit delivery in April or early May, and you'd like to swap
for the first of June, please contact me.
Thanks,
Tim
40025
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of David McNeill
Subject: RV10-List: QB fuselage
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Just finishing the inventory of the QB fuselage, finish kit and FF kit.
Van's does a good job to ensure everything is there. For others who worked
the QB fuselage: Is there a specific section of the plans that are complete
and specific sections left undone or did you just drill out the temporary
rivets and start checking from the beginning of the slow build plans? Or are
there specific QB plans?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Flow Transducer
> Ok, let's give it a try. First picture is of a FloScan 231 - you can see
> how the mounting holes are diagonally opposed relative to the input &
> output ports. Second picture is the EI FT-60 which has a larger spacing
> between mounting holes and they're both on the same side relative to the
> input & output ports.
>
>
> Bob #40105
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson
> Sent: Fri 04/08/2005 07:47 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Flow Transducer
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Hey Bob,
>
> Just FYI, Matt Dralle actually did a change to the list when we hopped
> over here. You can now attach an image if you want. Try sending a
> .jpg to the list....I think it will go.
>
> Tim
>
>
> Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
> > Randy,
> >
> > Not sure when they changed - maybe when they went from the ACS-2002 to
> > AF-2500? I just looked at my transducer and it's an Electronics
> > Internation FT-60 (Red Cube). Instead of having the mounting holes on
> > diagonal corners, it has them on a single side spaced 1 3/8" center to
> > center which is a little further apart than the Van's supplied bracket
> > holes. I just checked on the AFS website and they show this unit in the
> > latest manual on page 40:
>
> > http://advanced-control-systems.com/MonitorSupport/AF-2500%20System%20Manual%20V3.0.pdf
> >
> > I snapped a picture of it but the list will strips off attachments.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Randy
> > DeBauw
> > Sent: Fri 04/08/2005 03:46 PM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Cc:
> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Flow Transducer
> >
> >
> >
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
> >
> > Mine fit fine Bob. I put it in 9 months ago. When did they
> > change? Randy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey,
> > Bob
> > (US SSA)
> > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:19 PM
> > To: RV10-List@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Flow Transducer
> >
> >
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
> > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
> >
> > Heads up - I ordered the fuel flow transducer for an AF-2500
> > (formerly ACS-2002) and the sensor that they provided was different than
> > the bracket supplied in the kit was designed to take. Very easy to fix
> > before riveting the various fuselage ribs, skins, etc. in place.
> > Unfortunately, difficult to change the bracket when you get to the
> > chapter on plumbing the fuel system. Problem is simply that the holes
> > aren't spaced or aligned the same. I'll post info on the unit supplied
> > later today or over the weekend.
>
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> > Bob #40105
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