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1. 08:22 AM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
2. 08:44 AM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
3. 10:09 AM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
4. 04:28 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
5. 04:37 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
6. 05:35 PM - Wally Messages Stopped! (Matt Dralle)
7. 07:37 PM - Re: Last call for Sun-N-Fun list - When to meet? (DejaVu)
8. 08:09 PM - Re: Primers - Alodine, Epoxy, Zinc Chromate (Rick)
9. 08:29 PM - Re: Tail kit Gotcha's (Darton Steve)
10. 09:19 PM - Re: Re: Tail kit Gotcha's (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | ilwind-List: Wally's return |
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | ilwind-List: Wally's return |
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | ilwind-List: Wally's return |
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | ilwind-List: Wally's return |
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | ilwind-List: Wally's return |
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Wally Messages Stopped! |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
My sincere apologies! At about 4:30am this morning there was an odd system
problem on the Matornics email server, causing many mail files to become
marked as "read-only". This wedged many of the List filters causing all
sorts of weird behavior. Perhaps the oddest was that an innocent message
from Walter Critchlow, kept getting posted instead of the actual incoming
List message.
If you receive this message, and sent a list message to any of the lists
shown below between the hours of 4:30am and 5:15pm PDT on Sunday Apr 10th,
your message was one of the ones that got subverted. Please repost your
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Again, my sincere apologies for the problems. I was doing my Taxes (!)
today and wasn't keeping as close an eye on the Lists as I normally do.
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Matt Dralle
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| Subject: | Re: Last call for Sun-N-Fun list - When to meet? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@mail.ameritel.net>
Tim, 9am and 1pm will work fine for me. I'll be there Wed through Fri, then
take the fam over to the tourist trap in Orlando. By all means call me at
other times if something else fun is going on.
How about a -10 Builders dinner say on Thursday, 7:00pm? I'll look around
for a good restaurant once I'm there.
Anh
#141
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Last call for Sun-N-Fun list - When to meet?
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> We're right up to showtime, so I thought I'd post in again about
> Sun-N-Fun.
>
> I have a sample list of the people (mostly builders) who will be
> at the show. There are probably many more that aren't on the list.
> The sample page is at http://www.MyRV10.com/snf2
>
> I have a password required page that lists email addresses and
> phone numbers to use to get a hold of people at the show.
> If you are going, and want the list, just email me your info
> and I'll put you on the list and send you the page link. We're
> just trying to keep the privacy for the builders.
>
> As for meeting times, on that page I have suggested 9am and 1pm
> to meet at Van's by the RV-10. I haven't been to Sun-N-Fun before,
> and I'll only be there Thurs/Fri max, but does anyone else think
> this timing plan would work fine? I figure if we did it in
> the a.m. and p.m., it would give people a chance to shop
> together if wanted in the a.m., or catch some of the show and
> post-show for the later time. Or, would you guys prefer
> just one time, more mid-day, like 10 or 11am? Give your
> input, and lets set a time.
>
> Well, I'll be flying down if the weather holds, so I'll be
> unreachable the day before and after, but I'll hope to
> see you there. I'll be spending my time at Grand Rapids,
> Van's, Tru-Trak, Advanced Flight Systems, and some others.
> Randy, I'll for sure swing by and see you and try to be
> available for supper if it works for you.
>
> Tim
>
> --
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Primers - Alodine, Epoxy, Zinc Chromate |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Tim covered the Alodine and prep...I am using enamel based Zinc Chromate and AKZO
depending on my mood and amount I need to spray, as far as epoxy, the best
things we (meaning Las Vegas builders) found and two of the three of us are using
is either AKZO primer, it's epoxy based and similar in color to yellow Zinc
Chromate or Sherwin Williams Epoxy primer John Erickson is using which is tough
as nails, (as is the AKZO) I have had good success with the AKZO, I didn't
think Zinc Chromate came in anything but a lacquer or enamel base, If your even
thinking of epoxy primer I would go with the SW or AKZO...AKZO is available
at Aircraft Spruce. Around $120?? for the set of base and catalyst.
My best advice about any gotchas is I can't recall very many....read and study
your plans well, don't drill, cut or rivet anythng until you have made sure your
supposed to drill, cut or rivet. Take your time initially and soon it will
be second nature, this kit is VERY easy to build with the plans Van's Supplies.
I have ordered the plans as they came available even though I didn't have that
part of the kit. It allows you to see how the part your working on fits into
the big picture. If what your doing doesn't make sense you can look into the
future to see how it will be used at that time, helped me on the wings a few
times and plus they are fun to read. Don't drive your first rivet on the actual
kit...practice on the scrap Vans sends in the kit or get their practive kit,
go to one of the kit classes out there or seek out your local EAA chapter for
some advice on how to set rivets....May the smiley Gods smile favorably on you,
if your lucky you won't give up on your polished aluminum airframe finish until
maybe the elevators, unlike most of us who gave it up on the vertical stabilizer.
When you get to the trim tabs..remind us, there are some tips to make
them easier to bend. Read all the web sites you can. Tim Olson, Mike Howe, Dan
Checkoway, William Curtis and even ol' James McClows site has some wonderful
family building moments ;) ...I think you can link to all of them from Tim's
site or the Links part of Vans site. Welcome to the madness!!
Rick S.
40185
Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Tail kit Gotcha's |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com>
At this stage of building I would suggest rounding off
the VS-1002, VS-1005 & VS-1013 ribs. This technique is
described on page 8-7 for the HS-905 ribs. I didn't
round off my VS ribs (the plans don't tell you to). I
now have a small outward dent on the VS skins over
where I'm suggesting to round them off. Everything
else about the kit is very well explained.
Steve 40212 wings arrive this week!
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Tail kit Gotcha's |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Geez, I spoke too soon. Steve's right...that was probably my first
gotcha. I ended up shortening the nose of the nose ribs for the VS
a tiny bit, and rounded them over more too. This happened, of course,
after I forced the skin around them on the VS and ended up with the
same outward dent that Steve has. The kicker is that later on in
the building the plans warn you to check this for the HS. If they'd
have warned me sooner, I wouldn't have made the mistake in the first
place.
Good catch, Steve. There aren't many gotchas, but there are a few
like that.
One thing to be careful of too is not to let the mushroom head rivet
set slide off the area of the rib when you're hammering a rib (any
rib, any section). This can leave you with a small dent/crease in
the skin right where the rib edge is.
Oh, here's another quick gotcha. Do a good job of putting those
VS spar caps in tightly when you drill them. I had plastic clamps
holding mine, and had one that wasn't in fully tight when I got done
drilling. I ended up ordering more material and doing it over.
And I'll toss in a building tip. If you mess something up, and
have to order from Van's, buy a couple of lengths of the 2 or 3
popular sizes of aluminum angle. You'll be making a lot of stuff
out of them, and you'll probably mess one or two things up.
Now you'll have scrap. You'll also find it handy for things like
installing the Gretz pitot mount, beefing up the panel when you
cut the ribs a bit, and other odds and ends. May as well
get it early.
Tim
Darton Steve wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com>
>
>
> At this stage of building I would suggest rounding off
> the VS-1002, VS-1005 & VS-1013 ribs. This technique is
> described on page 8-7 for the HS-905 ribs. I didn't
> round off my VS ribs (the plans don't tell you to). I
> now have a small outward dent on the VS skins over
> where I'm suggesting to round them off. Everything
> else about the kit is very well explained.
> Steve 40212 wings arrive this week!
>
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