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1. 03:49 AM - Alexander Technical Center - Starting the Building Process (Larry)
2. 05:18 AM - Re: My Sun-N-Fun Experience (William Curtis)
3. 06:41 AM - Re: Alexander Technical Center - Starting the Building Process ()
4. 06:53 AM - Re: My Sun-N-Fun Experience (Long) (Rick)
5. 06:57 AM - Re: Re: RV-List: Static System Connections (Rick)
6. 08:08 AM - Duckworks lights for the 10 (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
7. 08:35 AM - Re: Duckworks lights for the 10 (John Jessen)
8. 09:04 AM - Re: Duckworks lights for the 10 (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
9. 10:40 AM - Re: Duckworks lights for the 10 (John Jessen)
10. 10:56 AM - IOF-550 ? (Eric Parlow)
11. 11:28 AM - Re: IOF-550 ? (Randy DeBauw)
12. 11:51 AM - Re: IOF-550 ? (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
13. 11:52 AM - Re: Duckworks lights for the 10 (Tim Olson)
14. 01:17 PM - Re: Duckworks lights for the 10 (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
15. 01:31 PM - W&B (David McNeill)
16. 01:34 PM - Re: Duckworks lights for the 10 (Tim Olson)
17. 01:55 PM - Re: W&B (Paul Folbrecht)
18. 02:14 PM - HS Nose Ribs (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
19. 02:17 PM - Re: W&B (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
20. 02:20 PM - Re: HS Nose Ribs (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
21. 02:37 PM - rv10 quick build (Schawang, Darrin)
22. 03:00 PM - Re: HS Nose Ribs (Jeff Carpenter)
23. 03:27 PM - Re: rv10 quick build (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
24. 03:50 PM - Re: rv10 quick build (John Jessen)
25. 04:12 PM - Re: rv10 quick build (Randy DeBauw)
26. 04:16 PM - Re: rv10 quick build (Paul Folbrecht)
27. 05:51 PM - Re: Duckworks lights for the 10 (Mani Ravee)
28. 06:31 PM - Re: rv10 quick build (DejaVu)
29. 06:36 PM - Re: Weight & Balance? (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Mani Ravee)
30. 06:42 PM - Ordered my Engine today (Tim Olson)
31. 07:14 PM - Re: rv10 quick build (Dj Merrill)
32. 08:23 PM - Re: rv10 quick build (JOHN STARN)
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| Subject: | Alexander Technical Center - Starting the Building Process |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Today I will be traveling to Alexander Technical Center
<http://www.buildtofly.com/> to build my tail kit. Two weeks of
dedicated building and I hope to come home with a completed tail
secton. It has been a while. I ordered my kit back in March and it has
been at the builders assistance center for a few weeks. I also ordered
the quick build wings and fuse and they are expected to ship in August.
Tomorrow I will officially be an RV10 builder.
Larry Rosen
#356
Medford, NJ
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| Subject: | RE: My Sun-N-Fun Experience |
>William, glad you found your cell. Now I can call and expect
> you to answer. Hope we didn't drop you off too far away from
> camp after dinner. My daughter thinks of you when she sees
> anything yellow.
>Anh
Anh, LOL. I didn't realize how complicated selecting the right shade of yellow
would be. From too much lemon to too much orange.
http://members.core.com/~wcurtis/RV/RV10_Yellow.jpg
DO NOT ARCHIVE
William
#40237
http://members.core.com/~wcurtis/RV/
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| Subject: | Re: Alexander Technical Center - Starting the Building Process |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <quinn.talley@cox.net>
Hi Larry,
I did my RV-10 Tail at Alexander Technical Center last October. Great
value, Great guys. You have made an excellent choice. Jacob Biang and, if
you're lucky, Mike Crowe will be helping/instructing you. They are
fantastic. Take good note on the tooling you like. Mike put together a
very useful list - ask about it.
Consider taking the guys to the BBQ place -- it is fantastic.
Quinn Talley
40295
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry" <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Alexander Technical Center - Starting the Building
Process
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> Today I will be traveling to Alexander Technical Center
> <http://www.buildtofly.com/> to build my tail kit. Two weeks of
> dedicated building and I hope to come home with a completed tail
> secton. It has been a while. I ordered my kit back in March and it has
> been at the builders assistance center for a few weeks. I also ordered
> the quick build wings and fuse and they are expected to ship in August.
> Tomorrow I will officially be an RV10 builder.
>
> Larry Rosen
> #356
> Medford, NJ
>
>
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| Subject: | My Sun-N-Fun Experience (Long) |
DNA: do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List: Static System Connections |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
It's not dumb..I asked the same thing, John will have to explain again if it was
"do not archive"
But if you even for a second thought of Quicksdraw McGraw and his alter ego "El
Kabong" your getting warm ;)
Rick S.
40185
Wings
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| Subject: | Duckworks lights for the 10 |
In case you all have not heard....
Dan Lloyd,
the new RV-10 kits are completed and ready for order now!
I don't have the website updated yet, but any orders I receive before
the update will be at the same prices as for the RV-4/6/7/8 kits.
We will carry the 55w, 100w, and HID for the RV-10, but once the website
is updated the HID will only be available thru Van's, with a small price
increase, due to the increased parts count in the new kits.
The 55w and 100w will continue to be available on our website for direct
order.
Note that the kits are basically the same as for the other RVs, the
primary difference being an improved lens mounting method that will
insure a tighter fit to the skin, and eliminates holes in the lens which
were an occasional source of cracking.
Sincerely,
Duckworks
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| Subject: | Duckworks lights for the 10 |
As per your suggestion, I've decided to go with the standard wing tip lights
for the -10 to be used as flashers, with HID for taxi, etc. Do you suggest
one or two HID? I've not seen them in use.
John Jessen
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
Subject: RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
In case you all have not heard..
Dan Lloyd,
the new RV-10 kits are completed and ready for order now!
I don't have the website updated yet, but any orders I receive before the
update will be at the same prices as for the RV-4/6/7/8 kits.
We will carry the 55w, 100w, and HID for the RV-10, but once the website is
updated the HID will only be available thru Van's, with a small price
increase, due to the increased parts count in the new kits.
The 55w and 100w will continue to be available on our website for direct
order.
Note that the kits are basically the same as for the other RVs, the primary
difference being an improved lens mounting method that will insure a tighter
fit to the skin, and eliminates holes in the lens which were an occasional
source of cracking.
Sincerely,
Duckworks
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| Subject: | Duckworks lights for the 10 |
John
I posted this so everyone would know Duckworks had them avail, you might
want to send to them directly as I do not know your answer.
Sorry for the confusion, I had asked them to email me when the kits were
avail, and I thought everyone else would like to know they are in
production now.
As for HID, I did find a very cheap source on Ebay, for the bulbs and
Ballast, you would just have to make your own mount.
Let me know if you are interested
Dan
40269
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
As per your suggestion, I've decided to go with the standard wing tip
lights for the -10 to be used as flashers, with HID for taxi, etc. Do
you suggest one or two HID? I've not seen them in use.
John Jessen
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
R.
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:05 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
=09
=09
In case you all have not heard....
Dan Lloyd,
the new RV-10 kits are completed and ready for order now!
I don't have the website updated yet, but any orders I receive
before the update will be at the same prices as for the RV-4/6/7/8 kits.
We will carry the 55w, 100w, and HID for the RV-10, but once the
website is updated the HID will only be available thru Van's, with a
small price increase, due to the increased parts count in the new kits.
The 55w and 100w will continue to be available on our website
for direct order.
Note that the kits are basically the same as for the other RVs,
the primary difference being an improved lens mounting method that will
insure a tighter fit to the skin, and eliminates holes in the lens which
were an occasional source of cracking.
Sincerely,
Duckworks
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| Subject: | Duckworks lights for the 10 |
Dan, my fault for not paying attention. Sorry. Do not archive.
John
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
John
I posted this so everyone would know Duckworks had them avail, you might
want to send to them directly as I do not know your answer.
Sorry for the confusion, I had asked them to email me when the kits were
avail, and I thought everyone else would like to know they are in production
now.
As for HID, I did find a very cheap source on Ebay, for the bulbs and
Ballast, you would just have to make your own mount.
Let me know if you are interested
Dan
40269
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
As per your suggestion, I've decided to go with the standard wing tip lights
for the -10 to be used as flashers, with HID for taxi, etc. Do you suggest
one or two HID? I've not seen them in use.
John Jessen
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
Subject: RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
In case you all have not heard..
Dan Lloyd,
the new RV-10 kits are completed and ready for order now!
I don't have the website updated yet, but any orders I receive before the
update will be at the same prices as for the RV-4/6/7/8 kits.
We will carry the 55w, 100w, and HID for the RV-10, but once the website is
updated the HID will only be available thru Van's, with a small price
increase, due to the increased parts count in the new kits.
The 55w and 100w will continue to be available on our website for direct
order.
Note that the kits are basically the same as for the other RVs, the primary
difference being an improved lens mounting method that will insure a tighter
fit to the skin, and eliminates holes in the lens which were an occasional
source of cracking.
Sincerely,
Duckworks
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
Has anyone considered the IOF-550 from TCM?
Full FADEC and 310bhp!
Interfaces with several EFIS systems for full engine diagnotisics included.
Similar weight & installation to IO-540 Lyc.
The (T)IO(F)-550 is used in:
Cirrus SR22
Lancair Columbia 300, 350, 400; ES, IV, IVP, Legacy.
Mooney Ovation
Cessna Fastlane STC
Express 2000
Adam 500
Beech Bonanza, Baron
+
Engine of the (near) future?
ERic--
RV-8A
RV-10 in planning stage
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
I recommend you spend the money and fly the 10 first. You will find that it has
all of the power you need. Not to mention having to develop your own exhaust
system and cowl. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Eric Parlow
Subject: RV10-List: IOF-550 ?
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
Has anyone considered the IOF-550 from TCM?
Full FADEC and 310bhp!
Interfaces with several EFIS systems for full engine diagnotisics included.
Similar weight & installation to IO-540 Lyc.
The (T)IO(F)-550 is used in:
Cirrus SR22
Lancair Columbia 300, 350, 400; ES, IV, IVP, Legacy.
Mooney Ovation
Cessna Fastlane STC
Express 2000
Adam 500
Beech Bonanza, Baron
+
Engine of the (near) future?
ERic--
RV-8A
RV-10 in planning stage
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Van was specifically asked about TCM IO-470/520/550 engines at OSH last year.
His response was that it would take a lot of engineering to make it work and "it
wasn't in the cards".
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Eric Parlow
Subject: RV10-List: IOF-550 ?
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
Has anyone considered the IOF-550 from TCM?
Full FADEC and 310bhp!
Interfaces with several EFIS systems for full engine diagnotisics included.
Similar weight & installation to IO-540 Lyc.
The (T)IO(F)-550 is used in:
Cirrus SR22
Lancair Columbia 300, 350, 400; ES, IV, IVP, Legacy.
Mooney Ovation
Cessna Fastlane STC
Express 2000
Adam 500
Beech Bonanza, Baron
+
Engine of the (near) future?
ERic--
RV-8A
RV-10 in planning stage
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| Subject: | Re: Duckworks lights for the 10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Dan,
Your Ebay source....is that for D1S or D2S Bulbs? I've found from
research that what you really want is D1S if possible. I'm going
to be talking to Don from Duckworks tonight to hopefully find out
which version his bulbs are. If they're D1S, then they're a
pretty good deal. I did find D1S bulbs, ballast, and wiring
for a total of about $355 brand new today, (no lens) but then you still
need the duckworks kit to mount it in...which puts it at over $425.
My only reservation is that I'd prefer not to use the round PAR36 lamps,
but something rectangular....which would force me to buy my lamps
elsewhere and then make them work.
Would be interested to see what your source is though...
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> John
> I posted this so everyone would know Duckworks had them avail, you might
> want to send to them directly as I do not know your answer.
> Sorry for the confusion, I had asked them to email me when the kits were
> avail, and I thought everyone else would like to know they are in
> production now.
> As for HID, I did find a very cheap source on Ebay, for the bulbs and
> Ballast, you would just have to make your own mount.
> Let me know if you are interested
> Dan
> 40269
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John Jessen
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:32 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
>
> As per your suggestion, I've decided to go with the standard wing tip
> lights for the -10 to be used as flashers, with HID for taxi, etc. Do
> you suggest one or two HID? I've not seen them in use.
>
> John Jessen
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Lloyd,
> Daniel R.
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:05 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
>
> In case you all have not heard.
>
> Dan Lloyd,
> the new RV-10 kits are completed and ready for order now!
> I don't have the website updated yet, but any orders I receive
> before the update will be at the same prices as for the RV-4/6/7/8
> kits.
>
> We will carry the 55w, 100w, and HID for the RV-10, but once the
> website is updated the HID will only be available thru Van's, with a
> small price increase, due to the increased parts count in the new kits.
>
> The 55w and 100w will continue to be available on our website for
> direct order.
> Note that the kits are basically the same as for the other RVs, the
> primary difference being an improved lens mounting method that will
> insure a tighter fit to the skin, and eliminates holes in the lens
> which were an occasional source of cracking.
>
> Sincerely,
> Duckworks
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Duckworks lights for the 10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
Tim they have a converter that is made to turn a D2S or R into an H7
which means it will sit in a regular headlight socket, IE duckworks fog
light or you can pick up a fog lap kit at auto store for $30.
The ballast I found is for a D2 S or R, do you know the diff between a
D1 or D2?
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
Dan,
Your Ebay source....is that for D1S or D2S Bulbs? I've found from
research that what you really want is D1S if possible. I'm going
to be talking to Don from Duckworks tonight to hopefully find out
which version his bulbs are. If they're D1S, then they're a
pretty good deal. I did find D1S bulbs, ballast, and wiring
for a total of about $355 brand new today, (no lens) but then you still
need the duckworks kit to mount it in...which puts it at over $425.
My only reservation is that I'd prefer not to use the round PAR36 lamps,
but something rectangular....which would force me to buy my lamps
elsewhere and then make them work.
Would be interested to see what your source is though...
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> John
> I posted this so everyone would know Duckworks had them avail, you
might
> want to send to them directly as I do not know your answer.
> Sorry for the confusion, I had asked them to email me when the kits
were
> avail, and I thought everyone else would like to know they are in
> production now.
> As for HID, I did find a very cheap source on Ebay, for the bulbs and
> Ballast, you would just have to make your own mount.
> Let me know if you are interested
> Dan
> 40269
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John
Jessen
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:32 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
>
> As per your suggestion, I've decided to go with the standard wing tip
> lights for the -10 to be used as flashers, with HID for taxi, etc. Do
> you suggest one or two HID? I've not seen them in use.
>
> John Jessen
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
*Lloyd,
> Daniel R.
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:05 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
>
> In case you all have not heard....
>
> Dan Lloyd,
> the new RV-10 kits are completed and ready for order now!
> I don't have the website updated yet, but any orders I receive
> before the update will be at the same prices as for the RV-4/6/7/8
> kits.
>
> We will carry the 55w, 100w, and HID for the RV-10, but once the
> website is updated the HID will only be available thru Van's, with
a
> small price increase, due to the increased parts count in the new
kits.
>
> The 55w and 100w will continue to be available on our website for
> direct order.
> Note that the kits are basically the same as for the other RVs,
the
> primary difference being an improved lens mounting method that
will
> insure a tighter fit to the skin, and eliminates holes in the lens
> which were an occasional source of cracking.
>
> Sincerely,
> Duckworks
>
>
>
>
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I have the finishing kit W&B examples. I will have an Odyssey 680 on the right
firewall as the primary cranking battery. Should it need help I have an Odyssey
925 that can be employed in parallel or independently. With the Hartzell prop
I expect to be forward of the forward limit but what experimental aircraft does
not fly around with about 25 pounds of tools in the baggage area? Another
option is use of a flight planning program that calculates both takeoff and landing
W&Bs. Additionally if you normally fly in the forward end of the envelope
pitch control will be very stable which may obviate the need for a pitch control
autopilot. With regards to external power, the battery aft should be relatively
easy to access for a jump or charge. If you must have a external power
plug then pay attention to the Cessna schematics for correct wiring of external
power including the extra contactors. Cessna sent some airplanes into the field
some years back where the prop/starter rotated upon insertion of the external
power plug. My C177RG was one of them.
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| Subject: | Re: Duckworks lights for the 10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Yeah, the D2 series have the igniter integrated into the ballas, and
then high voltage wires to the bulb from the ballast. The D1 series
have the ballast separate, with the igniter usually included in a little
box at the base of the bulb. The benefit to this is that you don't
have the high voltage wires that are likely to cause EMI
(Interference) with things like radios, stringing between the igniter
and the bulb. D2S bulbs would then be much more noisy to the rest
of your system....how extreme, I know not. From the looks of the
photos of the Duckworks bulbs...and from running across a picture
of the same ballast on the net, it looks like the Duckworks systems
are the D1S type. So that makes them "better" than what I'd get
if I got some D2S(R) stuff that I have found on Ebay.
To me, I'm trying to avoid 2 things.....Power draw, and Interference.
And Add long life. The power draw is my main reason for using LED's
for NAV lights....along with the long life. The power draw and
light output lead me to HID's. But, to do it "right", I'm hoping
to go with D1S bulbs for the HID's to prevent interference.
My quest started here: Follow the links.
http://www.aerovisions.com/hid/hid_aircraft_kits.html#conversionkits
There's a TON of good info here:
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-hid-bulbs.htm
Follow more links from that page.
And here's another:
http://www.suvlights.com/faq-qa.htm#6000K%20and%208000K%20D2S%20bulbs
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> Tim they have a converter that is made to turn a D2S or R into an H7
> which means it will sit in a regular headlight socket, IE duckworks fog
> light or you can pick up a fog lap kit at auto store for $30.
> The ballast I found is for a D2 S or R, do you know the diff between a
> D1 or D2?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:52 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
>
> Dan,
>
> Your Ebay source....is that for D1S or D2S Bulbs? I've found from
> research that what you really want is D1S if possible. I'm going
> to be talking to Don from Duckworks tonight to hopefully find out
> which version his bulbs are. If they're D1S, then they're a
> pretty good deal. I did find D1S bulbs, ballast, and wiring
> for a total of about $355 brand new today, (no lens) but then you still
> need the duckworks kit to mount it in...which puts it at over $425.
> My only reservation is that I'd prefer not to use the round PAR36 lamps,
>
> but something rectangular....which would force me to buy my lamps
> elsewhere and then make them work.
>
> Would be interested to see what your source is though...
> Tim
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
>
> Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
>
>>John
>>I posted this so everyone would know Duckworks had them avail, you
>
> might
>
>>want to send to them directly as I do not know your answer.
>>Sorry for the confusion, I had asked them to email me when the kits
>
> were
>
>>avail, and I thought everyone else would like to know they are in
>>production now.
>>As for HID, I did find a very cheap source on Ebay, for the bulbs and
>>Ballast, you would just have to make your own mount.
>>Let me know if you are interested
>>Dan
>>40269
>>
>>
>
>
>>*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John
>
> Jessen
>
>>*Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:32 AM
>>*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>>*Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
>>
>>As per your suggestion, I've decided to go with the standard wing tip
>>lights for the -10 to be used as flashers, with HID for taxi, etc. Do
>
>
>>you suggest one or two HID? I've not seen them in use.
>>
>>John Jessen
>>
>>
>
>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
>
> *Lloyd,
>
>> Daniel R.
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:05 AM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
>>
>> In case you all have not heard....
>>
>> Dan Lloyd,
>> the new RV-10 kits are completed and ready for order now!
>> I don't have the website updated yet, but any orders I receive
>> before the update will be at the same prices as for the RV-4/6/7/8
>> kits.
>>
>> We will carry the 55w, 100w, and HID for the RV-10, but once the
>> website is updated the HID will only be available thru Van's, with
>
> a
>
>> small price increase, due to the increased parts count in the new
>
> kits.
>
>> The 55w and 100w will continue to be available on our website for
>> direct order.
>> Note that the kits are basically the same as for the other RVs,
>
> the
>
>> primary difference being an improved lens mounting method that
>
> will
>
>> insure a tighter fit to the skin, and eliminates holes in the lens
>> which were an occasional source of cracking.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Duckworks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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To put it mildly, holy crap! I wonder if any lawsuits resulted from that gaff.
> contactors. Cessna sent some airplanes into the field some years back where
> the prop/starter rotated upon insertion of the external power plug. My C177RG
> was one of them.
>
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Ok, after a 3 week hiatus (damn day job sending me out of town) I get to
finally work on finishing up my HS. So after drilling more than a
couple rivets, anyone have any tips for riveting the inside nose ribs to
the skins by yourself?
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352
N403SS
Working on HS - 63 hours total
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Looks like you should have enough battery power to almost go without an alternator!
Seriously, what is your rationale for a PC-680 and also a PC-925 instead
of a second PC-680?
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David McNeill
Subject: RV10-List: W&B
I have the finishing kit W&B examples. I will have an Odyssey 680 on the right
firewall as the primary cranking battery. Should it need help I have an Odyssey
925 that can be employed in parallel or independently. With the Hartzell prop
I expect to be forward of the forward limit but what experimental aircraft does
not fly around with about 25 pounds of tools in the baggage area? Another
option is use of a flight planning program that calculates both takeoff and landing
W&Bs. Additionally if you normally fly in the forward end of the envelope
pitch control will be very stable which may obviate the need for a pitch control
autopilot. With regards to external power, the battery aft should be relatively
easy to access for a jump or charge. If you must have a external power
plug then pay attention to the Cessna schematics for correct wiring of external
power including the extra contactors. Cessna sent some airplanes into the field
some years back where the prop/starter rotated upon insertion of the external
power plug. My C177RG was one of them.
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| Subject: | RE: HS Nose Ribs |
Careful and slow... My tool kit came with a mushroom rivet set that has
rubber around the outer edges that makes it a lot easier because it
doesn't slip off the rounded edge as easy. I've done the bulk of my kit
solo.
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Subject: HS Nose Ribs
Ok, after a 3 week hiatus (damn day job sending me out of town) I get to
finally work on finishing up my HS. So after drilling more than a
couple rivets, anyone have any tips for riveting the inside nose ribs to
the skins by yourself?
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352
N403SS
Working on HS - 63 hours total
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| Subject: | rv10 quick build |
What is a realistic build time for a RV-10 w/ quickbuild wings and fuselage? The
say that the quickbuild wings can be ready in a weakend and a week of evenings.
How much time is left on the fuselage? After that what is the realistic
time involved to complete?
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| Subject: | Re: HS Nose Ribs |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
Michael,
Don't rush it. Spend a lot of time experimenting with with the HS
different positions until you've got the best access your going to get
and then find a way to clamp it in that position. I've got quite a
few smilies from pulling the trigger before I was relaxed and
comfortable with how I was set up to rivet. I've also found that I'm
much more likely to screw up with the gun in my left hand and the
bucking bar in my right... your mileage may vary...
And if you really can't reach the thing properly on your own, wait for
some help. You'll beat yourself up every time you look at the smilies
for your lack of patience (if you're anything like me).
Jeff Carpenter
40304
224 hours, final assembly of the elevators
On Apr 21, 2005, at 2:14 PM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> Ok, after a 3 week hiatus (damn day job sending me out of town) I get
> to
> finally work on finishing up my HS. So after drilling more than a
> couple rivets, anyone have any tips for riveting the inside nose ribs
> to
> the skins by yourself?
>
> Michael Sausen
> RV-10 #352
> N403SS
> Working on HS - 63 hours total
> <winmail.dat>
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| Subject: | rv10 quick build |
2200 hours slow build 1700 hours quick build. These are complete numbers including
paint. Randy
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RV10-List: rv10 quick build
What is a realistic build time for a RV-10 w/ quickbuild wings and fuselage? The
say that the quickbuild wings can be ready in a weakend and a week of evenings.
How much time is left on the fuselage? After that what is the realistic
time involved to complete?
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| Subject: | rv10 quick build |
So, if I have the arithmetic right, and if life were highly regulated, and
one could work 15 hours per week, 48 weeks a year, you'd be done with the
quick build in 2.36 years. Slow build 3.05 years. Ouch. John
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Subject: RE: RV10-List: rv10 quick build
2200 hours slow build 1700 hours quick build. These are complete numbers
including paint. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Schawang, Darrin
Subject: RV10-List: rv10 quick build
What is a realistic build time for a RV-10 w/ quickbuild wings and fuselage?
The say that the quickbuild wings can be ready in a weakend and a week of
evenings. How much time is left on the fuselage? After that what is the
realistic time involved to complete?
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| Subject: | rv10 quick build |
If you only could work 15 hours a week it would take a looooog time. Plan 15 hours
on the weekends and 12 hours on the week days. You will be flying 2 - 3 years
and having a lot of fun. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Jessen
Subject: RE: RV10-List: rv10 quick build
So, if I have the arithmetic right, and if life were highly regulated, and one
could work 15 hours per week, 48 weeks a year, you'd be done with the quick build
in 2.36 years. Slow build 3.05 years. Ouch. John
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Subject: RE: RV10-List: rv10 quick build
2200 hours slow build 1700 hours quick build. These are complete numbers including
paint. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Schawang, Darrin
Subject: RV10-List: rv10 quick build
What is a realistic build time for a RV-10 w/ quickbuild wings and fuselage? The
say that the quickbuild wings can be ready in a weakend and a week of evenings.
How much time is left on the fuselage? After that what is the realistic
time involved to complete?
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
3-4 years (for a slow-build) is exactly what I've been planning on.
And I doubt I'll paint it myself.
--- John Jessen <jjessen@rcn.com> wrote:
> So, if I have the arithmetic right, and if life were highly regulated, and
> one could work 15 hours per week, 48 weeks a year, you'd be done with the
> quick build in 2.36 years. Slow build 3.05 years. Ouch. John
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| Subject: | Duckworks lights for the 10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee" <maniravee@sbcglobal.net>
Hey guys, have a web at tripod for a long time now and am really getting
sick of the pop ups. Where do you guys go for hosting your webs online and
how many gigs of space/ and gigs of transfer per month do you guys get/ Also
how much $? I need to move badly so I can post all my building pics.
Thanks for your input.
Do Not Archive.
Mani
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| Subject: | Re: rv10 quick build |
Re: RV10-List: My Sun-N-Fun Experience (Long)The sooner you get on the road, the
sooner you'll get there. Plus this building thang does wonderful things to
the mind.
Anh
----- Original Message -----
From: John Jessen
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: rv10 quick build
So, if I have the arithmetic right, and if life were highly regulated, and one
could work 15 hours per week, 48 weeks a year, you'd be done with the quick
build in 2.36 years. Slow build 3.05 years. Ouch. John
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 3:25 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: rv10 quick build
2200 hours slow build 1700 hours quick build. These are complete numbers including
paint. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Schawang, Darrin
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:51 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: rv10 quick build
What is a realistic build time for a RV-10 w/ quickbuild wings and fuselage?
The say that the quickbuild wings can be ready in a weakend and a week of
evenings. How much time is left on the fuselage? After that what is the realistic
time involved to complete?
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| Subject: | RE: Weight & Balance? |
Was someone going to post some of that weight and balance information from the
finish kit? Some of us are still waiting on our finish kits . . . : (
TDT
40025
________________________________
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Duckworks lights for the 10
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee" <maniravee@sbcglobal.net>
Hey guys, have a web at tripod for a long time now and am really getting
sick of the pop ups. Where do you guys go for hosting your webs online and
how many gigs of space/ and gigs of transfer per month do you guys get/ Also
how much $? I need to move badly so I can post all my building pics.
Thanks for your input.
Do Not Archive.
Mani
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| Subject: | Ordered my Engine today |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Hey Folks,
Today I ordered my engine from Bart and Sue at Aerosport Power.
http://www.aerosportpower.com 250 376-2955
I got the IO-540 D4A5 with a Lightspeed Plasma III ignition. Basically
the same exact thing as Scott Schmidt got and posted about the other
day. If you're coming to OSH, you'll get to see it. It's going
to be the Aerosport demo IO-540 on display, and I'm picking it up
from there. After speaking with Bart, and hearing the great
reputation over the years, I decided to pay a little price premuim
and go with them. They basically do some small tweaks and mods
that go beyond what most places do as part of a standard overhaul,
and they don't line-item the cost.
For those who are shopping for engines on a little tighter budget,
I also have another suggestion for you. I had a VERY hard time
coming to my decision to go with Aerosport, because Richard Fowler
at America's Aircraft Engines was VERY nice to deal with.
http://www.overhaul.com/ (888) 371-1371 (Tulsa OK)
These guys will do everything that Aerosport will do, and I'm sure
you'll end up with just as nice an engine, and probably save
a couple thousand dollars while you're at it. They'll very
fairly price the add-ons, like Lightspeed ignition, sky-tec
starter, and special valve jobs and porting and flow matching.
I got the specs on the cranks that they currently have in stock
and it looks like the next couple of guys who call them for
an engine should get a pretty sweet deal. If you go there,
tell them I referred you. They were so very nice that I actually
feel bad having to choose between the 2 companies. For me though,
I've just had 1st hand experience hearing an aerosport engine run,
and it was smoother than any I'd heard....so I had that extra
push.
Cores...good ones...are becoming more and more in short supply
these days, basically due to US, the RV-10 crowd, buying up
all of the 540's....and with the sales lately, I'm sure the
problem is going to get worse and worse until next year
when the ECI IO-540 becomes available as a *new* engine. So
my advice to those who are thinking they'll finish their kit by
the end of the year would be, shop quick and pin down your engine.
The prices, and core prices, have crept up a couple thousand
since OSH last year. If you're not going to finish for at least
a year, look into the ECI engines. I know that America's Aircraft
Engines will be selling those when they're available.
Tim
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
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| Subject: | Re: rv10 quick build |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
DejaVu wrote:
>
> The sooner you get on the road, the sooner you'll get there. Plus this
> building thang does wonderful things to the mind.
Kinda like LSD...
Addictive, expensive, and changes your whole world view...
*wink*
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill
deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu
"TSA: Totally Screwing Aviation"
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| Subject: | Re: rv10 quick build |
<006f01c546da$f27efab0$c77c0ad0@thevusdenz>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
The trip (completed -10) of 100,000 miles (read dollars) begins with but a
single rivet. 8*)
KABONG Do Not Archive (GBA & GWB)
---- Original Message -----
From: "Dj Merrill" <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
> DejaVu wrote:
>>
>> The sooner you get on the road, the sooner you'll get there. Plus this
>> building thang does wonderful things to the mind.
>
> Kinda like LSD...
> Addictive, expensive, and changes your whole world view...
> *wink*
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