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1. 06:49 AM - Re: Starter solenoid location (LessDragProd@aol.com)
2. 10:05 AM - Pneumatic rivet squeezers (James Ochs)
3. 11:27 AM - Re: Pneumatic rivet squeezers (Rick)
4. 11:27 AM - Re: Pneumatic rivet squeezers (Rick)
5. 11:27 AM - Re: Pneumatic rivet squeezers (Rick)
6. 01:13 PM - Quickbuild Purchase Question (John Jessen)
7. 01:48 PM - Re: Pneumatic rivet squeezers (Darton Steve)
8. 03:05 PM - Re: Quickbuild Purchase Question (son hoang)
9. 03:35 PM - Re: Quickbuild Purchase Question (Marcus Cooper)
10. 03:40 PM - Re: Quickbuild Purchase Question (Tim Olson)
11. 04:30 PM - Re: Quickbuild Purchase Question (Brian Denk)
12. 05:30 PM - Yippee! RV10 #406 (ddavis@virtual-corp.net)
13. 05:32 PM - Re: Quickbuild Purchase Question (JOHN STARN)
14. 05:49 PM - Re: Yippee! RV10 #406 (brian bollaert)
15. 06:06 PM - Re: Yippee! RV10 #406 (Merems)
16. 06:34 PM - WTB: (Bill and Tami Britton)
17. 06:43 PM - Re: Yippee! RV10 #406 (bob.kaufmann)
18. 06:55 PM - Re: Yippee! RV10 #406 (Larry)
19. 06:56 PM - Re: WTB: (Tim Olson)
20. 07:00 PM - Re: Wing clecos (Larry)
21. 07:54 PM - Re: Wing clecos (Tim Olson)
22. 08:22 PM - The first customer completions (EFDsteve@aol.com)
23. 08:30 PM - Re: Pneumatic rivet squeezers (Mark Grieve)
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Subject: | Re: Starter solenoid location |
Hi Stein,
Great suggestion.
I should have mentioned that both the RV-6 and RV-6A where purchased
aircraft.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
In a message dated 05/08/2005 7:24:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
stein@steinair.com writes:
Or, just don't use fat wire at all between the solenoids....use a nice fat
piece of copper or brass (cover with heavy heatshrink) to run between the two
(no reason to have them mounted far apart after all).
I stole the idea from some other old graybeard builder....no chance of any
fat wires vibrating around or chafing through....you'd be surprised to know
this is more common than you may think!
If you do have to use a fat wire (because your solenoids may be mounted too
far apart for the buss bar method), common standard practice is to use a
cushioned adel clamp wherever the wire runs near to any sort of metal or
brackets, or over long runs of any type. A few bucks and few minutes installing
adel
clamps really will make your installations safer & better when running any
types of wire, spark plug leads, control cables, etc..
Cheers,
Stein.
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Subject: | Pneumatic rivet squeezers |
--> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
Hi all,
Quick question about the pneumatic rivet squeezers. Whats the
disadvantages / advantages of the alligator style as opposed to the
cp214 style? Secondly is there a significant difference between the 214
model and the 314 model from Chicago Pneu? What do people recommend as
the best one to get while spending less than 4 or 500 dollars?
Spent the weekend dimpling with the hand squeezer, using clecos, spray
bottles, etc. Haven't even gotten to riveting my VS yet and already I
can see how the pneumatic squeezer is going to be invaluable...
Probably going to start riveting the VS together tonight.
James
#40400
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Subject: | Re: Pneumatic rivet squeezers |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
James,
I have the clone 214 model from airrivettools.com, link is on Van's site under
tool suppliers. I am VERY happy with it, I have a 4" no hole, a 3" standard and
a 2.5 longeron yoke. It was on special with a complete set of dimple dies which
I highly recommend, all the screw sizes plus standard and small diameter rivet
sets, don't forget you will need a 3/32 universal set for the tail kit. I
don't own a hand squeezer, although there have been a few times when the compressor
was drained for the night it would have been nice, I am almost done with
the wings and have made without the hand powered model. Mine has enough pressure
to set all the rivets I have tried as long as you use a full size air hose
and not the mini/light hose when doing some of the larger -4 rivets, the other
model has 6000 psi where the 214 is rated at 3000. I have no experience using
the alligator I yet to come across a rivet where I though it would have helped.
Some have had luck getting these off E-bay but be careful, they may be in
need of rebuild or have worn out parts. While your at it don't forget the adjustable
set, it is invaluable but will not work with the 4" yoke, I use washers/shims
to set the 4" yoke, quick change pins are pretty good to have as well.
Rick S.
40185
Wings
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Subject: | Re: Pneumatic rivet squeezers |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
James,
I have the clone 214 model from airrivettools.com, link is on Van's site under
tool suppliers. I am VERY happy with it, I have a 4" no hole, a 3" standard and
a 2.5 longeron yoke. It was on special with a complete set of dimple dies which
I highly recommend, all the screw sizes plus standard and small diameter rivet
sets, don't forget you will need a 3/32 universal set for the tail kit. I
don't own a hand squeezer, although there have been a few times when the compressor
was drained for the night it would have been nice, I am almost done with
the wings and have made without the hand powered model. Mine has enough pressure
to set all the rivets I have tried as long as you use a full size air hose
and not the mini/light hose when doing some of the larger -4 rivets, the other
model has 6000 psi where the 214 is rated at 3000. I have no experience using
the alligator I yet to come across a rivet where I though it would have helped.
Some have had luck getting these off E-bay but be careful, they may be in
need of rebuild or have worn out parts. While your at it don't forget the adjustable
set, it is invaluable but will not work with the 4" yoke, I use washers/shims
to set the 4" yoke, quick change pins are pretty good to have as well.
Rick S.
40185
Wings
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Subject: | Re: Pneumatic rivet squeezers |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
James,
I have the clone 214 model from airrivettools.com, link is on Van's site under
tool suppliers. I am VERY happy with it, I have a 4" no hole, a 3" standard and
a 2.5 longeron yoke. It was on special with a complete set of dimple dies which
I highly recommend, all the screw sizes plus standard and small diameter rivet
sets, don't forget you will need a 3/32 universal set for the tail kit. I
don't own a hand squeezer, although there have been a few times when the compressor
was drained for the night it would have been nice, I am almost done with
the wings and have made without the hand powered model. Mine has enough pressure
to set all the rivets I have tried as long as you use a full size air hose
and not the mini/light hose when doing some of the larger -4 rivets, the other
model has 6000 psi where the 214 is rated at 3000. I have no experience using
the alligator I yet to come across a rivet where I though it would have helped.
Some have had luck getting these off E-bay but be careful, they may be in
need of rebuild or have worn out parts. While your at it don't forget the adjustable
set, it is invaluable but will not work with the 4" yoke, I use washers/shims
to set the 4" yoke, quick change pins are pretty good to have as well.
Rick S.
40185
Wings
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Subject: | Quickbuild Purchase Question |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
I'm thinking of ordering one or the other quick builds soon, either the wing
or fuselage. I'm trying to save both time and money, so thought I'd
compromise. Any opinions as to which would be "easier" to build from pieces
and which would be best bought as a quick build? My apologies if this has
all been hashed out before, but thought since many have now been down this
road there might be new thoughts.
John Jessen
Empcone 1%
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Subject: | Re: Pneumatic rivet squeezers |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com>
James,
I highly recommend a pneumatic squeezer as a must have
item. I bought mine from a local RV-6 builder who no
longer needed it. It was about 1/3rd the price of new.
I also have seen many good deals on Ebay. Just do a
search for "rivet squeezer" and don't bid on anything
old.
Steve
--- James Ochs <jochs@froody.org> wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs
> <jochs@froody.org>
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> Hi all,
>
> Quick question about the pneumatic rivet squeezers.
> Whats the
> disadvantages / advantages of the alligator style as
> opposed to the
> cp214 style? Secondly is there a significant
> difference between the 214
> model and the 314 model from Chicago Pneu? What do
> people recommend as
> the best one to get while spending less than 4 or
> 500 dollars?
>
> Spent the weekend dimpling with the hand squeezer,
> using clecos, spray
> bottles, etc. Haven't even gotten to riveting my VS
> yet and already I
> can see how the pneumatic squeezer is going to be
> invaluable...
>
> Probably going to start riveting the VS together
> tonight.
>
> James
> #40400
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Subject: | Re: Quickbuild Purchase Question |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "son hoang" <son@hoangs.com>
I just faxed in the order for the standard fuse and QB wings
my reasons:
the fuse is more fun to build
I do not want to for the long lead time of the QB
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Quickbuild Purchase Question
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> I'm thinking of ordering one or the other quick builds soon, either the
wing
> or fuselage. I'm trying to save both time and money, so thought I'd
> compromise. Any opinions as to which would be "easier" to build from
pieces
> and which would be best bought as a quick build? My apologies if this has
> all been hashed out before, but thought since many have now been down this
> road there might be new thoughts.
>
> John Jessen
> Empcone 1%
>
>
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Subject: | Quickbuild Purchase Question |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
Another good reason to do the QB wings and regular fuselage is you don't
have to build the fuel tanks! Also, you only have to build one of
everything, the wings can get a little tiresome.
Marcus
QB all the way after a slow build RV-6 and 7
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of son hoang
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Quickbuild Purchase Question
--> RV10-List message posted by: "son hoang" <son@hoangs.com>
I just faxed in the order for the standard fuse and QB wings
my reasons:
the fuse is more fun to build
I do not want to for the long lead time of the QB
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Quickbuild Purchase Question
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> I'm thinking of ordering one or the other quick builds soon, either the
wing
> or fuselage. I'm trying to save both time and money, so thought I'd
> compromise. Any opinions as to which would be "easier" to build from
pieces
> and which would be best bought as a quick build? My apologies if this has
> all been hashed out before, but thought since many have now been down this
> road there might be new thoughts.
>
> John Jessen
> Empcone 1%
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Quickbuild Purchase Question |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I went down this same road myself. After a lot of thinking and talking
to Vans, it was basically said that the fuselage is much more complex
than the wings, so I saved the cash on the wings, and spent it on
the fuse. Worked well for me so far. The timing can be an issue
though. So, be sure to order any QB sections you choose WELL in
advance of when you need it. Even though I was one of the earlier
QB fuse orders, it still took me over 6 months to get. Try to get
it ordered at least by the time you start your wings, if not sooner,
if you go with the fuse.
The wings are very straightforward and not too bad to build.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
John Jessen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> I'm thinking of ordering one or the other quick builds soon, either the wing
> or fuselage. I'm trying to save both time and money, so thought I'd
> compromise. Any opinions as to which would be "easier" to build from pieces
> and which would be best bought as a quick build? My apologies if this has
> all been hashed out before, but thought since many have now been down this
> road there might be new thoughts.
>
> John Jessen
> Empcone 1%
>
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Subject: | Quickbuild Purchase Question |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>
>I'm thinking of ordering one or the other quick builds soon, either the
>wing
>or fuselage. I'm trying to save both time and money, so thought I'd
>compromise. Any opinions as to which would be "easier" to build from
>pieces
>and which would be best bought as a quick build? My apologies if this has
>all been hashed out before, but thought since many have now been down this
>road there might be new thoughts.
>
>John Jessen
> Empcone 1%
For me, it's QB wings and slowbuild fuse. The fuse is interesting to build,
and seldom gets boring. The wings, well, they ARE boring! Lot's of
repetition and proseal too. I've already proved my mettle (or is it
"metal"?) by building a slowbuild, non-matched hole RV8 so I'll let the
Phillippine folks do those big ole wing planks for me this time.
To each his own, but this just makes the most sense for me this time around.
For the next RV (RV3), I'll de-evolve back to raw bauxite and bailing wire
just for nostalgia's sake!
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51 waitin' in the wings....for the wings.
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Subject: | Yippee! RV10 #406 |
05/09/2005 08:29:22 PM,
Serialize complete at 05/09/2005 08:29:22 PM
I've been quietly lurking on this list (and the old one) since the 1st of
the year. I needed to get some surgery and rehab out of the way before
ordering, With that done (well almost) I faxed my order Fri. and got
confirmation and my builder number via e-mail today. I expect to get
delivery of emp kit the end of next week. I bought a copy of the plans
and have been studying those, now looking for tools (anybody want to part
with theirs?) and getting the 'shop' ready.
This list is an awesome source of information, I hope I can remember 1/10
of what I've read so far, so get ready for another 'newbie' set of
questions.
Deems Davis
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Subject: | Re: Quickbuild Purchase Question |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Don't forget the duct tape... KABONG 8*)
Do Not Archive
From: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Quickbuild Purchase Question
> I've already proved my mettle (or is it "metal"?) by building a slowbuild,
> non-matched hole RV8 so I'll let the Phillippine folks do those big ole
> wing planks for me this time.
>
> To each his own, but this just makes the most sense for me this time
> around. For the next RV (RV3), I'll de-evolve back to raw bauxite and
> bailing wire just for nostalgia's sake!
>
> Brian Denk
> RV8 N94BD
> RV10 '51 waitin' in the wings....for the wings.
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Subject: | Re: Yippee! RV10 #406 |
Welcome to the -10 world DD , its a very interseting one !!
Brian B
----- Original Message -----
From: ddavis@virtual-corp.net
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Yippee! RV10 #406
I've been quietly lurking on this list (and the old one) since the 1st of the
year. I needed to get some surgery and rehab out of the way before ordering,
With that done (well almost) I faxed my order Fri. and got confirmation and my
builder number via e-mail today. I expect to get delivery of emp kit the end
of next week. I bought a copy of the plans and have been studying those, now
looking for tools (anybody want to part with theirs?) and getting the 'shop'
ready.
This list is an awesome source of information, I hope I can remember 1/10 of
what I've read so far, so get ready for another 'newbie' set of questions.
Deems Davis
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Subject: | Re: Yippee! RV10 #406 |
Deems,
Congratulations and welcome to the world of RV building. Since you are looking
for tools I recommend you check out the DRDT-2 dimpling tool from ExperimentalAero
(experimentalaero.com).
It will make dimpling all those holes on your RV-10 easy, fast, safe, consistent,
less fatiguing and noise free then using the impact c-frame dimpling tool.
I wish I had one when building my RV-4.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: ddavis@virtual-corp.net
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Yippee! RV10 #406
I've been quietly lurking on this list (and the old one) since the 1st of the
year. I needed to get some surgery and rehab out of the way before ordering,
With that done (well almost) I faxed my order Fri. and got confirmation and my
builder number via e-mail today. I expect to get delivery of emp kit the end
of next week. I bought a copy of the plans and have been studying those, now
looking for tools (anybody want to part with theirs?) and getting the 'shop'
ready.
This list is an awesome source of information, I hope I can remember 1/10 of
what I've read so far, so get ready for another 'newbie' set of questions.
Deems Davis
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I've got my pneumatic squeezer bought. Now I need a 2.5" longeron yoke, 4" pneumatic
yoke, quick change pins and the adjustable set holder. Also, what does
it mean to use a 1/2" long flat set with the longeron yoke (evidently if you
don't you'll overextend the plunger)???
Thanks,
Bill Britton
RV-10 Emp #40137
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Subject: | Yippee! RV10 #406 |
Welcome to this group that's about half a bubble off. Tools, heck get them
anywhere you can, and buy a little more clecos than you think you'll need.
Have fun, turn the TV off and enjoy the experience. You'll love it.
Bob K
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Merems
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Yippee! RV10 #406
Deems,
Congratulations and welcome to the world of RV building. Since you are
looking for tools I recommend you check out the DRDT-2 dimpling tool from
ExperimentalAero (experimentalaero.com <http://www.experimentalaero.com> ).
It will make dimpling all those holes on your RV-10 easy, fast, safe,
consistent, less fatiguing and noise free then using the impact c-frame
dimpling tool. I wish I had one when building my RV-4.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: ddavis@virtual-corp.net
Subject: RV10-List: Yippee! RV10 #406
I've been quietly lurking on this list (and the old one) since the 1st of
the year. I needed to get some surgery and rehab out of the way before
ordering, With that done (well almost) I faxed my order Fri. and got
confirmation and my builder number via e-mail today. I expect to get
delivery of emp kit the end of next week. I bought a copy of the plans and
have been studying those, now looking for tools (anybody want to part with
theirs?) and getting the 'shop' ready.
This list is an awesome source of information, I hope I can remember 1/10 of
what I've read so far, so get ready for another 'newbie' set of questions.
Deems Davis
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Subject: | Re: Yippee! RV10 #406 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
I agree. I unsed the DRDT-1 at Alexander Technical Center through their
tail program. Great tool, and when you are done you will be able to
resell it easily.
Merems wrote:
> Deems,
>
> Congratulations and welcome to the world of RV building. Since you
> are looking for tools I recommend you check out the DRDT-2 dimpling
> tool from ExperimentalAero (experimentalaero.com
> <http://www.experimentalaero.com>).
> It will make dimpling all those holes on your RV-10 easy, fast, safe,
> consistent, less fatiguing and noise free then using the impact
> c-frame dimpling tool. I wish I had one when building my RV-4.
>
> Paul
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* ddavis@virtual-corp.net <mailto:ddavis@virtual-corp.net>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 09, 2005 5:29 PM
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Yippee! RV10 #406
>
>
> I've been quietly lurking on this list (and the old one) since the
> 1st of the year. I needed to get some surgery and rehab out of the
> way before ordering, With that done (well almost) I faxed my order
> Fri. and got confirmation and my builder number via e-mail today.
> I expect to get delivery of emp kit the end of next week. I
> bought a copy of the plans and have been studying those, now
> looking for tools (anybody want to part with theirs?) and getting
> the 'shop' ready.
> This list is an awesome source of information, I hope I can
> remember 1/10 of what I've read so far, so get ready for another
> 'newbie' set of questions.
>
>
> Deems Davis
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Heya Bill,
What it means is that the flat set....(the flat dime-sized squeezer set)
needs to be taller, so the piston (plunger) doesn't have to extend
quite so far to do the squeeze, since the jaws are so far apart on
the yoke. It loses its "oompf" at the end of the stroke, so by getting
a taller flat set (like maybe have a few that are 1/8", 1/4" and 3/8"
(possibly even 1/2")) tall, so that you can always get the full force
out of the squeezer.
I had the standard set with the tool kit, then picked up more later.
Cleaveland and Avery both have all sorts of these things.
The Yard Store at http://www.yardstore.com is a good place for picking
up some of the extras at a pretty low price. Probably want a 2nd
3/32" dimple die set too, 'cuz you'll be really mad the day yours
breaks it's nose off.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
Current project: Fuselage
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Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> I've got my pneumatic squeezer bought. Now I need a 2.5" longeron yoke,
> 4" pneumatic yoke, quick change pins and the adjustable set holder.
> Also, what does it mean to use a 1/2" long flat set with the longeron
> yoke (evidently if you don't you'll overextend the plunger)???
>
> Thanks,
> Bill Britton
> RV-10 Emp #40137
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Any suggestions on how many clecos will be needed for the quickbuild
wings and fuse?
Larry Rosen
RV10 #356
Emp complete, waiting on QB wings
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>40185
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
For the QB fuse, and wings you could get by with probably lots less.
Maybe 1/2 of the slowbuild. (300-400ish). I am in the process of
joining my tailcone right now, and you need a bunch of 3/32", but
not an overwhelming number. I imagine the fiberglass top will
require quite a few too, but I'm sure nowhere near 700-750. On the
QB wings, you would use a ton of them if you do both wings at the
same time, but if you do one at a time, I'm sure the same 300-400
would be pretty good too.
Those counts are only for the 3/32". The 1/8" you don't need all
that many for from what it looks like while doing the QB wings
and QB fuse. You can use a ton of them on the empennage though.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
Larry wrote:
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> Any suggestions on how many clecos will be needed for the quickbuild
> wings and fuse?
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> Larry Rosen
> RV10 #356
> Emp complete, waiting on QB wings
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Subject: | The first customer completions |
I just saw Doug Peterson's latest update to his web site. Looks like
there's another RV-10 about ready to fly.
As I plod along, on what will likely be a four year project, I am just so
impressed by the progress that Randy and Doug have made in slightly over a year
and a half. I've appreciated that they (and others) have shared their
progress on their web sites and the help and inspiration that that has provided
me.
Best wishes on your first flights and Godspeed.
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Steve Weinstock
40230
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Subject: | Re: Pneumatic rivet squeezers |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
James,
The biggest disadvantage of an alligator squeezer is the difficulty in
adjustment for setting rivets. You stack up washers till you get it just
right. The same problem exists if you buy a 214 style without the
adjustable plunger but that is something that can be changed. It seems
easier to go for a long reach with an alligator. Either kind is great
for dimpling. You can even make one a stationary tool by clamping the
head or non moving jaw into a vise. Beware, someone talked about making
an extra hole in a tank skin. Two kinds of users of pneumatic squeezers,
those who have punched a hole where one was not intended and .....
Mark
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James Ochs wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
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> Hi all,
>
> Quick question about the pneumatic rivet squeezers. Whats the
> disadvantages / advantages of the alligator style as opposed to the
> cp214 style? Secondly is there a significant difference between the
> 214 model and the 314 model from Chicago Pneu? What do people
> recommend as the best one to get while spending less than 4 or 500
> dollars?
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> Spent the weekend dimpling with the hand squeezer, using clecos, spray
> bottles, etc. Haven't even gotten to riveting my VS yet and already I
> can see how the pneumatic squeezer is going to be invaluable...
>
> Probably going to start riveting the VS together tonight.
>
> James
> #40400
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