RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 05/20/05


Total Messages Posted: 25



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:31 AM - Re: Minor Missing parts in QB Fuselage Kits + Conduit Photos (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
     2. 06:34 AM - Randy's Post-Airworthiness Photos (Tim Olson)
     3. 07:07 AM - Re: rattle can primer (linn walters)
     4. 07:34 AM - Re: rattle can primer (John W. Cox)
     5. 07:49 AM - Re: rattle can primer (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
     6. 07:50 AM - massive bummer (Vikki)
     7. 08:13 AM - Re: massive bummer (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
     8. 08:28 AM - Re: massive bummer (Rene Felker)
     9. 09:08 AM - Re: massive bummer (John W. Cox)
    10. 09:09 AM - Re: massive bummer (John W. Cox)
    11. 09:45 AM - new Aeroelcetric Connection (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
    12. 09:52 AM - Re: Weather watch for first flight. (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
    13. 10:09 AM - Re: alternator mounting (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    14. 10:58 AM - New AvMap Terrain!! (Stein Bruch)
    15. 01:30 PM - Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10 (Tim Olson)
    16. 01:35 PM - Re: New AvMap Terrain!! (Wayne Edgerton)
    17. 02:59 PM - Re: massive bummer (Brian Denk)
    18. 03:46 PM - skin crease (Chris , Susie McGough)
    19. 03:56 PM - Re: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10 (BBreckenridge@att.net)
    20. 04:39 PM - Re: skin crease ()
    21. 06:07 PM - Re: Re: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10 (John W. Cox)
    22. 06:57 PM - Re: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10 (BBreckenridge@att.net)
    23. 07:27 PM - Re: massive bummer (Bill McCoy)
    24. 08:36 PM - Re: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10 (NYTerminat@aol.com)
    25. 11:02 PM - Re: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10 (John Jessen)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:31:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Minor Missing parts in QB Fuselage Kits + Conduit Photos
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> Scotchbrite of the pointer, and use the handle to point to left or right? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Minor Missing parts in QB Fuselage Kits + Conduit Photos --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> But, Brian, That valve has the handle forward, but the pointer end of the valve facing aft, doesn't it?? I think that's why Randy had that comment....the pointy tip usually goes towards the front, and at the 10 o'clock position is left, and the 2 o'clock is right......in yours, it's 8 o'clock left, and 4 o'clock right, isn't it? Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 DO NOT ARCHIVE brian bollaert wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "brian bollaert" <bbollaert@comcast.net> > > Hi Randy : > > We put air pressur on the fuel valve to determine which valve was which , > as in the pic left is left , right is right , i had the same concern . > I have a feeling you will be flying sat . weather is nasty ! > > Brian B > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 11:01 AM > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Minor Missing parts in QB Fuselage Kits + Conduit > Photos > > > >>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com> >> >>The only problem I see is that now the selector is backwards. When > > pointing to the left it will be the right tank. Randy > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Olson >>Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:54 AM >>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Minor Missing parts in QB Fuselage Kits + >>Conduit Photos >> >> >>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> >> >>I have now posted Brian's Fuel line photos so you can see them. >>Brian, if something isn't right, just let me know. >> >>http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/BrianBollaert/fuel_lines/index.html >> >>At the same time, I updated my site to show the Inner Duct conduit >>that I got yesterday. Last night I installed it and I think it's >>going to be fantastic for running the wires to the tailcone. >>Here are some photos: >> >>http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/fuselage/20050517/index.html >> >>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 >> >> >> >> >> >>Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote: >> >>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" > > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> > >>>Brian, >>> >>>Were you able to post the pic? If so, where? >>> >>>Thanks. >>> >>>Bob #40105 >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of brian >>>bollaert >>>Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:21 AM >>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Minor Missing parts in QB Fuselage Kits >>> >>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "brian bollaert" >>><bbollaert@comcast.net> >>> >>>Hello Bob: >>> >>>Absolutley it was !, after ruining 12 feet or so of 3/8 /tube ! the more >>>you >>>bend it the weaker it gets & and it is really (for me anyway ) difficult >>>to >>>get those bends right , i will post a pic this afternoon . >>> >>>Brian Bollaert >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> >>>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >>>Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:45 AM >>>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Minor Missing parts in QB Fuselage Kits >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" >>> >>><bob.condrey@baesystems.com> >>> >>>>I'd be interested in the different fuel line routing - was the >>>>motivation simply to reduce the number of bends? >>>> >>>>Bob #40105 >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of brian >>>>bollaert >>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:26 AM >>>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Minor Missing parts in QB Fuselage Kits >>>> >>>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "brian bollaert" >>>><bbollaert@comcast.net> >>>> >>>>Morning Tim: >>>> >>>>Mine was exactly the same situation (except i had no nutplates that >>> >>>were >>> >>> >>>>called out ) they are no fun putting in . Also check to see if you >>> >>>have >>> >>> >>>>the >>>>nutes boltes washers that are used to secure the brackets that hold >>> >>>the >>> >>> >>>>brake & fuel lines in place under the seats (i had none). as a side >>> >>>line >>> >>> >>>>i >>>>changed the routing of the fuel lines in the tunnel , i have one more >>>>connection under left & right seat however there was much less >>> >>>bending >>> >>> >>>>of >>>>the line to do it this way .if you are interested i can send you a >>> >>>pic. >>> >>> >>>>Tim i am probably going with duel cheltons , the 2.5 in airspeed etc , >>>>still >>>>figuring out what i need in ariels & where to put them , there is only >>> >>>1 >>> >>> >>>>conduit in the qb wing so i have to be careful how much i put in .How >>>>about >>>>your panel ? >>>> >>>>Brian Bollaert >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> >>>>To: "RV10" <RV10-list@matronics.com> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:01 PM >>>>Subject: RV10-List: Minor Missing parts in QB Fuselage Kits >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> >>>>> >>>>>Here's one to check if you have the QB fuselage... >>>>>Mine, by the way, was one of them shipped without front floor >>>> >>>>panels... >>>> >>>> >>>>>some got them, some didn't. >>>>> >>>>>Under the most forward leg of each gear attach bracket (the huge >>>> >>>>things >>>> >>>> >>>>>under the 2 front seats), you drill and install 2 nutplates per >>> >>>side. >>> >>> >>>>>K1000-3. >>>>> >>>>>Looking for them in inventory finds that Bag 1455 has a quantity of >>> >>>2. >>> >>> >>>>>I'm not sure if there are 2 required somewhere else, and I was >>> >>>missing >>> >>> >>>>>4, or if they accidently just shorted me 2. It's also possible that >>>>>people who got their front floor panels didn't get shorted these >>>>>nutplates. >>>>> >>>>>Either way though, it's a very minor part that you might want to >>>>>verify you have enough of. I always hate finding these things >>>>>out at the last minute. >>>>> >>>>>Tim >>>>>-- >>>>>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 >>>>>Current project: Fuselage >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:34:54 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Randy's Post-Airworthiness Photos
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Randy's post-airworthiness photos are now available. Today is his scheduled first-flight day! http://www.myrv10.com/N610RV/index.html Hoping the weather cooperates. Once I get a video I'll get it out a.s.a.p. -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Fuselage DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:07:20 AM PST US
    From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: rattle can primer
    Just an FYI for folks that have to deal with high humidity ..... when the alcohol evaporates, it cools the aluminum which then condenses moisture out of the aiir ..... so leave sufficient drying time ..... which may be significant if the humidity is really high. Here in FL, I've encountered paint that wouldn't stick because of moisture. Caused much soul searching ..... because I think I'm a better painter than that! :-) Any liquid that evaporates rapicly will cause you significant paint adhesion problems. Linn do not archive Greg Young wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com> > >DJ > >Many repeat offenders elect to not prime at all. But clean and spray is >fine with self-etching primers. I've switched to denatured alcohol for >almost all cleaning. It works as well as acetone but won't hurt you >unless you drink it. I still keep acetone and MEK around for special >cases but feel much better using alcohol considering how many gallons >flash off during cleaning. > >Regards, >Greg Young - Houston (DWH) >RV-6 N6GY - project Phoenix >Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A > > > > >> Uh, scotchbrite? I was just going to clean the parts >>and spray them. Of course, my next question - what is the >>best thing to clean the parts with? Acetone? >>Yeah, I'm a newbie, but I'm having fun! >> >> I've decided, for better or for worse, that I am going >>to spray everything with the SW 988 primer. >>Completely psychological, but I'll just "feel" better seeing >>a coat of primer on everything. >> >>-Dj >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:34:35 AM PST US
    Subject: rattle can primer
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Lynn, great post tip. When painting a final coat that you want longevity on, it is always wise to record the relative humidity and temperature at the time of application. When painting metallics (Especially) and shooting late afternoon into the PM, the rapid swing in air temperature and relational increase in humidity can cause a change in the adjacent panels. Study the cause and effects of blushing before commencement too. John Cox (learned on the journey down the road of Hard Knocks) Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: rattle can primer Just an FYI for folks that have to deal with high humidity ..... when the alcohol evaporates, it cools the aluminum which then condenses moisture out of the aiir ..... so leave sufficient drying time ..... which may be significant if the humidity is really high. Here in FL, I've encountered paint that wouldn't stick because of moisture. Caused much soul searching ..... because I think I'm a better painter than that! :-) Any liquid that evaporates rapicly will cause you significant paint adhesion problems. Linn do not archive Greg Young wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com> <mailto:gyoung@cs-sol.com> DJ Many repeat offenders elect to not prime at all. But clean and spray is fine with self-etching primers. I've switched to denatured alcohol for almost all cleaning. It works as well as acetone but won't hurt you unless you drink it. I still keep acetone and MEK around for special cases but feel much better using alcohol considering how many gallons flash off during cleaning. Regards, Greg Young - Houston (DWH) RV-6 N6GY - project Phoenix Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A Uh, scotchbrite? I was just going to clean the parts and spray them. Of course, my next question - what is the best thing to clean the parts with? Acetone? Yeah, I'm a newbie, but I'm having fun! I've decided, for better or for worse, that I am going to spray everything with the SW 988 primer. Completely psychological, but I'll just "feel" better seeing a coat of primer on everything. -Dj


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    Time: 07:49:49 AM PST US
    Subject: rattle can primer
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    another point to this is that there are several types of alcohol, make sure you get the purest 99% or better, because it will leave streaks of residue if you do not. I used that at first then switched to Coleman lantern fuel, I use a lint free rag until no black appears, switch to a clean rag and wipe a final time. Seems to work well, I do lightly scuff the surface, not enough to make deep scratches but enough to make a dull surface. I have noticed a significant difference in adhesion vs. non-scuffed. But I also only prime rivet lines and non-alclad, I do not do the entire surface. YMMV Dan 40269 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: rattle can primer Just an FYI for folks that have to deal with high humidity ..... when the alcohol evaporates, it cools the aluminum which then condenses moisture out of the aiir ..... so leave sufficient drying time ..... which may be significant if the humidity is really high. Here in FL, I've encountered paint that wouldn't stick because of moisture. Caused much soul searching ..... because I think I'm a better painter than that! :-) Any liquid that evaporates rapicly will cause you significant paint adhesion problems. Linn do not archive Greg Young wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com> <mailto:gyoung@cs-sol.com> =09 DJ =09 Many repeat offenders elect to not prime at all. But clean and spray is fine with self-etching primers. I've switched to denatured alcohol for almost all cleaning. It works as well as acetone but won't hurt you unless you drink it. I still keep acetone and MEK around for special cases but feel much better using alcohol considering how many gallons flash off during cleaning. =09 Regards, Greg Young - Houston (DWH) RV-6 N6GY - project Phoenix Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A =09 =09 Uh, scotchbrite? I was just going to clean the parts and spray them. Of course, my next question - what is the best thing to clean the parts with? Acetone? Yeah, I'm a newbie, but I'm having fun! =09 I've decided, for better or for worse, that I am going to spray everything with the SW 988 primer. Completely psychological, but I'll just "feel" better seeing a coat of primer on everything. =09 -Dj =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09 =09


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    Time: 07:50:33 AM PST US
    From: "Vikki" <n69kv@bellsouth.net>
    "RV10-List Digest List" <rv10-list-digest@matronics.com>
    Subject: massive bummer
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Vikki" <n69kv@bellsouth.net> Well I have almost completed the Tail kit and was looking forward to the wing kit, however my employer had other thoughts, my services at this large aerospace company will no longer be needed and just like that i find myself unemployed, this is a massive bummer....so any one with a lead for a avaition middle manager, A&P and IA type schooled in the fine arts of production control and everything turboprop please let me know! JD Nichols RV-10 #320 AP/IA


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    Time: 08:13:04 AM PST US
    Subject: massive bummer
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> There was rumor that Cirrus was hiring quite a few people, but who would move to Minnesota on purpose?? "GRIN" -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vikki Subject: RV10-List: massive bummer --> RV10-List message posted by: "Vikki" <n69kv@bellsouth.net> Well I have almost completed the Tail kit and was looking forward to the wing kit, however my employer had other thoughts, my services at this large aerospace company will no longer be needed and just like that i find myself unemployed, this is a massive bummer....so any one with a lead for a avaition middle manager, A&P and IA type schooled in the fine arts of production control and everything turboprop please let me know! JD Nichols RV-10 #320 AP/IA


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    Time: 08:28:40 AM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: massive bummer
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> Or North Dakota for that matter.......I lived in Grand Forks for three years, not all that bad. Rene' N423CF 40322 Wings -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Subject: RE: RV10-List: massive bummer --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> There was rumor that Cirrus was hiring quite a few people, but who would move to Minnesota on purpose?? "GRIN" -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vikki Subject: RV10-List: massive bummer --> RV10-List message posted by: "Vikki" <n69kv@bellsouth.net> Well I have almost completed the Tail kit and was looking forward to the wing kit, however my employer had other thoughts, my services at this large aerospace company will no longer be needed and just like that i find myself unemployed, this is a massive bummer....so any one with a lead for a avaition middle manager, A&P and IA type schooled in the fine arts of production control and everything turboprop please let me know! JD Nichols RV-10 #320 AP/IA


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    Time: 09:08:19 AM PST US
    Subject: massive bummer
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Go Columbia (formerly Lancair Certified) is hiring many in Bend, OR. Can put you in touch with Amy Prutzman, Board member of Oregon Department of Aviation if you would consider living in sunny Central Oregon. Know that its blasphemy to mention that here but maybe VAN's will consider Turbo-props in their future. John Cox -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vikki Subject: RV10-List: massive bummer --> RV10-List message posted by: "Vikki" <n69kv@bellsouth.net> Well I have almost completed the Tail kit and was looking forward to the wing kit, however my employer had other thoughts, my services at this large aerospace company will no longer be needed and just like that i find myself unemployed, this is a massive bummer....so any one with a lead for a avaition middle manager, A&P and IA type schooled in the fine arts of production control and everything turboprop please let me know! JD Nichols RV-10 #320 AP/IA


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    Time: 09:09:15 AM PST US
    Subject: massive bummer
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> And North Dakata is implementing ADS-B to assist with GPS LPV approaches over the fields for your RV-10 project. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker Subject: RE: RV10-List: massive bummer --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> Or North Dakota for that matter.......I lived in Grand Forks for three years, not all that bad. Rene' N423CF 40322 Wings -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Subject: RE: RV10-List: massive bummer --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> There was rumor that Cirrus was hiring quite a few people, but who would move to Minnesota on purpose?? "GRIN" -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vikki Subject: RV10-List: massive bummer --> RV10-List message posted by: "Vikki" <n69kv@bellsouth.net> Well I have almost completed the Tail kit and was looking forward to the wing kit, however my employer had other thoughts, my services at this large aerospace company will no longer be needed and just like that i find myself unemployed, this is a massive bummer....so any one with a lead for a avaition middle manager, A&P and IA type schooled in the fine arts of production control and everything turboprop please let me know! JD Nichols RV-10 #320 AP/IA


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    Time: 09:45:35 AM PST US
    From: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
    Subject: new Aeroelcetric Connection
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com> The new of AEROELECTRIC CONNECTION (revision 11) is now in stock. This is the best manual available on how to design and install the electrical system in your RV. Ask anybody who has ever built an RV. Bob Nuckoll's manual is the bible. http://www.buildersbooks.com/electrical_systems1.htm Thanks, Andy Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com 800 780-4115


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    Time: 09:52:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Weather watch for first flight.
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@uta.cog.ut.us> Randy, This might sound surprising, but you can put a beach ball in the back seat and tie down the camera on top of it. If you tie it down correctly, the beach ball is big enough, and it is pointed just right, you should get some great shots that should be vibration free. It's cheap and affective. Good luck. Bob schroeder Wings 40254 -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy@abros.com Clerk) Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather watch for first flight. --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com> If it is raining first thing in the morning as predicted then I may have time. That would be cool. Randy -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Combs Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather watch for first flight. --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com> Randy, Any possibility of mounting a camera in the back seats looking over your shoulder (middle of the cabin). Tape the 'First Flight' from inside the cockpit? I would suggest some sort of mount that can be seat belted in. Connect the audio up to the intercom? Would be good documentation and give the rest of us following your lead somehting to really drool over! Jim Combs #40192 Do Not Archive


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    Time: 10:09:19 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: alternator mounting
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com> Browsing around, what's the difference between "case mount" and "boss mount" alternators? And is there a difference between different IO-540 models, or are they all one or the other? TDT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather watch for first flight. --> RV10-List message posted by: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@uta.cog.ut.us> Randy, This might sound surprising, but you can put a beach ball in the back seat and tie down the camera on top of it. If you tie it down correctly, the beach ball is big enough, and it is pointed just right, you should get some great shots that should be vibration free. It's cheap and affective. Good luck. Bob schroeder Wings 40254 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy@abros.com Clerk) Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather watch for first flight. --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com> If it is raining first thing in the morning as predicted then I may have time. That would be cool. Randy -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Combs Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather watch for first flight. --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com> Randy, Any possibility of mounting a camera in the back seats looking over your shoulder (middle of the cabin). Tape the 'First Flight' from inside the cockpit? I would suggest some sort of mount that can be seat belted in. Connect the audio up to the intercom? Would be good documentation and give the rest of us following your lead somehting to really drool over! Jim Combs #40192 Do Not Archive


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    Time: 10:58:05 AM PST US
    d="scan'146,217,208"; a="819828675:sNHT1104794780"
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    Subject: New AvMap Terrain!!
    Hi Guys, Just a quick note to show you what the new "soon to be released" AvMap terrain looks like! It's pretty awesome! If for some reason the picture doesn't make it, there is photos on my website. This is encroaching on the MX-20 territory as far as shading & detail goes! Anyway, I was pretty blown away, so I thought I'd share it! I don't have the new card in my hand yet, but I will shortly and when I do I'll get some actual photos. (Yes, it's ONLY a card swap - and a free one at that). Cheers, Stein do not archive


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    Time: 01:30:14 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> 10:16am - 5/20/2005 Randy will do the story....but here's a teaser video by Bruce Breckenridge! http://www.myrv10.com/N610RV/index.html -- Tim Olson DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 01:35:13 PM PST US
    From: "Wayne Edgerton" <weeav8ter@grandecom.net>
    Subject: Re: New AvMap Terrain!!
    Hi Stein, Looks pretty impressive. Did you by chance get to take a look at pricing out the panel and equipment you and I discussed. I have to head out of the country for awhile and was trying to button down lose ends. Russ D sent me a picture of his panel you are doing for him. Wayne Edgerton ----- Original Message ----- From: Stein Bruch To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:53 PM Subject: RV10-List: New AvMap Terrain!! Hi Guys, Just a quick note to show you what the new "soon to be released" AvMap terrain looks like! It's pretty awesome! If for some reason the picture doesn't make it, there is photos on my website. This is encroaching on the MX-20 territory as far as shading & detail goes! Anyway, I was pretty blown away, so I thought I'd share it! I don't have the new card in my hand yet, but I will shortly and when I do I'll get some actual photos. (Yes, it's ONLY a card swap - and a free one at that). Cheers, Stein do not archive


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    Time: 02:59:42 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
    Subject: massive bummer
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com> > >Well I have almost completed the Tail kit and was looking forward to the >wing kit, however my employer had other thoughts, my services at this large >aerospace company will no longer be needed and just like that i find myself >unemployed, this is a massive bummer....so any one with a lead for a >avaition middle manager, A&P and IA type schooled in the fine arts of >production control and everything turboprop please let me know! > >JD Nichols >RV-10 #320 >AP/IA That sucketh hugely. I'm sorry to hear of your job loss. If you don't mind relocating, try Eclipse Aviation here in Albuquerque, NM. I checked into a job there last summer and even with no A&P, my RV building experience along with my industrial controls and HVAC skills would have gotten me in the door easily. Just couldn't take the pay cut. They're growing and the three flying Eclipse Jet 500's are building hours. You'd be RV10 builder #3 in the area that I know of. My tail kit is done and I'm waiting on the wings...after I cough up a huge chunk of dinero to buy a new airpark home. Now wouldn't THAT be a sad irony: to have to sell my RV8 to afford the down payment on an airpark house. Chin up. :) Brian Denk RV8 N94BD RV10 '51


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    Time: 03:46:02 PM PST US
    From: "Chris , Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: skin crease
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com> I have started VS and have noticed the VS skin about 2-3 inches fron leading edge has a slight skin crease in it from top to bottom only on one side..anyone else had this Chris


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    Time: 03:56:48 PM PST US
    From: BBreckenridge@att.net
    Subject: Re: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10
    Ok, like this is really driving me crazy. I'm only now, 5 hours later, starting to "feel normal" again. I can't imagine how Randy feels!! I mean, he probably won't tell you about his restless night, getting up at 4:30am, not eating a good breakfast, etc... so, I am. He spent some family time around the lunch hour with plans to do some more flying while the weather was clear. He's probably still out there flying around incoming cells. It was an exhilarating experience to be there. As many have said before, keep pounding those rivets -you're in for the ride of your life!! Bruce Do not archive <!-- BEGIN WEBMAIL STATIONERY --> <!-- WEBMAIL STATIONERY noneset --> Ok, like this is really driving me crazy. I'm only now, 5 hours later, starting to "feel normal" again.I can't imagine how Randy feels!! I mean, he probably won't tell you about his restless night, getting up at 4:30am, not eating a good breakfast, etc... so, I am. He spent some family time around the lunch hour with plans to do some more flying while the weather was clear. He's probably still out there flying around incoming cells. It was an exhilarating experience to be there. As many have said before, keep pounding those rivets -you're in for the ride of your life!! Bruce Do not archive <!-- END WEBMAIL STATIONERY -->


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    Time: 04:39:45 PM PST US
    From: <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: skin crease
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <ricksked@earthlink.net> Chris, Mine was perfect, cloco it on and see what happens, if not get with vans to replace, the skin contribute greatly to the strength of the entire assembly. Take a phot, email it to Vans and see if it is OK. If it is minor they may say it's good but the final call is yours and they have been good about standing behind bum parts and such with me. Rick S. 40185 Flaps ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris , Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com> Subject: RV10-List: skin crease > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie McGough" > <VHMUM@bigpond.com> > > I have started VS and have noticed the VS skin about 2-3 inches fron > leading edge has a slight skin crease in it from top to bottom only on one > side..anyone else had this > > Chris > > >


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    Time: 06:07:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Bruce, don't worry I picked up the slack watching when you left. Randy has still not eaten much. Pulling the plane out then back between thundershowers was a hoot. Tim James flying GIB with Rob Hickman in Robs RV-4 have captured some inspirational inflight Aircraft to Aircraft video. Rob and Randy are downloading the data points from the ACS2500 right now. Way too cool. The smell of the new engine is a unique memory. Digital video will be forwarded to Tim Olson for final presentation after Randy gets dinner. Went out again this afternoon. The absolute kick in the pants was asking Randy to pull up at VANS when he got back from his hour and a half run dodging the cells. Dick was coming out of the building to jump in the RV-9 and head home. He did a big U turn back into the building and out came the entire staff to give Randy and his family kudos they so richly deserve for completing the entire aircraft and making sure every single system worked. No high speed passes with this owner. Still digitals images of the event will be sent to Tim as well. I have to get my wet clothes off and change into something dry..... But they say it's a warm rain here this time of year. John Cox - KUAO ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BBreckenridge@att.net Subject: RV10-List: Re: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10 Ok, like this is really driving me crazy. I'm only now, 5 hours later, starting to "feel normal" again. I can't imagine how Randy feels!! I mean, he probably won't tell you about his restless night, getting up at 4:30am, not eating a good breakfast, etc... so, I am. He spent some family time around the lunch hour with plans to do some more flying while the weather was clear. He's probably still out there flying around incoming cells. It was an exhilarating experience to be there. As many have said before, keep pounding those rivets -you're in for the ride of your life!! Bruce Do not archive


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    Time: 06:57:54 PM PST US
    From: BBreckenridge@att.net
    Subject: Re: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10
    <The absolute kick in the pants was asking Randy to pull up at VANS when he got back from his hour and a half run dodging the cells. Dick was coming out of the building to jump in the RV-9 and head home. He did a big U turn back into the building and out came the entire staff to give Randy and his family kudos they so richly deserve for completing the entire aircraft and making sure every single system worked.> NOW that's what I wanted to hear!! We were a relatively small group for such a big event (well, to us anyway!). He deserved the cheering and congrats. Heckofa nice guy. Ok, now I feel better - time to go see what's on my camera & video stuff. Bruce Do not archive <!-- BEGIN WEBMAIL STATIONERY --> <!-- WEBMAIL STATIONERY noneset --> The absolute kick in the pants was asking Randy to pull up at VANS when he got back from his hour and a half run dodging the cells. Dick was coming out of the building to jump in the RV-9 and head home. He did a big U turn back into the building and out came the entire staff to give Randy and his family kudos they so richly deserve for completing the entire aircraft and making sure every single system worked. NOW that's what I wanted to hear!! We were a relatively small group for such a big event (well, to us anyway!). He deserved the cheering and congrats. Heckofa nice guy. Ok, now I feel better - time to go see what's on my camera video stuff. Bruce Do not archive <!-- END WEBMAIL STATIONERY -->


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    Time: 07:27:00 PM PST US
    s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=dn7HwSG7V8bAPXtsGOrsEEtDCFHxAsUyROcLEoZ+Lj2CyVjX7gBP2K7xAjxEyEr4uGZJnYGLqoRn1RYzVyIVR23WyA4tCv4w5ZpVNb1BtTVLvAP0gZtVoKGiRpVwseqfmMVMsLdyuEa1AZKjuGWLhg8af2S/lNth5Nq4AdEzsNg= ;
    From: Bill McCoy <hoverlover9797@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: massive bummer
    Must be something in the air! I also got the no longer needed song this past week. I just finished the h. stab! Any one looking for an instumentation tech? PLC's, Flow computers? Sorry to hear your bad news, I just want to let you know that I'm in the same boat! Mark #40167 Vikki <n69kv@bellsouth.net> wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Vikki" Well I have almost completed the Tail kit and was looking forward to the wing kit, however my employer had other thoughts, my services at this large aerospace company will no longer be needed and just like that i find myself unemployed, this is a massive bummer....so any one with a lead for a avaition middle manager, A&P and IA type schooled in the fine arts of production control and everything turboprop please let me know! JD Nichols RV-10 #320 AP/IA --------------------------------- Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour


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    Time: 08:36:41 PM PST US
    From: NYTerminat@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10
    In a message dated 5/20/2005 4:31:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tim@MyRV10.com writes: http://www.myrv10.com/N610RV/index.html Congratulations, what a beautiful sight! Bob Spudis do not archive


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    Time: 11:02:00 PM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Randy, Great sight. Congratulations! John Jessen -> just 2 years more -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: Randy #006 - 2nd Flying RV-10 --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> 10:16am - 5/20/2005 Randy will do the story....but here's a teaser video by Bruce Breckenridge! http://www.myrv10.com/N610RV/index.html -- Tim Olson DO NOT ARCHIVE




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