RV10-List Digest Archive

Tue 05/24/05


Total Messages Posted: 17



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 10:25 AM - Re: Capacitance fuel senders (Nikolaos Napoli)
     2. 10:25 AM - Re: Alternator? (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
     3. 10:25 AM - Re: Capacitance fuel senders (John Jessen)
     4. 10:25 AM - Re: Engine Mount Ears (Jesse Saint)
     5. 12:30 PM - Re: Capacitance fuel senders (James Ochs)
     6. 04:27 PM - Re: Capacitance fuel senders (LarryRosen@comcast.net)
     7. 10:45 PM - Which bucking bar (Bill and Tami Britton)
     8. 10:53 PM - Re: Flap Motor (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
     9. 10:53 PM - Re: Capacitance fuel senders (bob.kaufmann)
    10. 11:06 PM - Re: Randy's First Flight Video by Bruce (Tim Olson)
    11. 11:17 PM - milestone #1 (Robert G. Wright)
    12. 11:17 PM - Re: Re: Alternator? (DejaVu)
    13. 11:29 PM - Re: Capacitance fuel senders ()
    14. 11:34 PM - Re: Engine Mount Ears (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
    15. 11:36 PM - Re: Engine Mount Ears (Tim Olson)
    16. 11:36 PM - Re: Alternator? ()
    17. 11:45 PM - Aviation News (AVIATION GROUP)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:25:27 AM PST US
    s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=luQ/7xKrozlQj5Zg/2Wjvj3CcmZagdxJW/rWAvte4+uXjjETSphTBjA0oBH6IBRrWLyWp2KzgR/M4LtG6kQiBRMHjHW0xDd7XL2ePa7HhkXU+XnP15jNdCktYxGFNuvLG+KPidG9br4DAgknODQtJTAF+g2qeZc/euqGd3BGfYQ= ;
    From: Nikolaos Napoli <owl40188@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Capacitance fuel senders
    James, Last time I talked to Vans they said they might have the capacitance gauges near the end of the year. I have built my fuel tanks but did not completely close them off. I did not rivet the rear spar in place yet. According to Vans if the rear spar is not in place you should be able to install the capacitance senders. Niko James Ochs <jochs@froody.org> wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs Hi All, I know this has been discussed before but I couldn't find any definitive solutions in the previous posts... I'd prefer capacitance fuel senders to floats for my 10, and as I'm getting ready to order the wings I'm trying to figure out what to do about it. Has anyone put any in their 10 yet? Any ideas? Should I just go with one of the probe type with the concentric tubes as opposed to waiting for the plates for the 10? Anyone heard from vans recently on this issue? Thanks, James #40400 -- There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'


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    Time: 10:25:48 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: Alternator?
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Browsing around, what's the difference between "case mount" and "boss mount" alternators? And is there a difference between different IO-540 models, or are they all one or the other? TDT 40025


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    Time: 10:25:51 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Capacitance fuel senders
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Question: Why use capacitance over float? Other than some degree of accuracy? Why not go with something more fool proof, such as a dip stick? Then use fuel flow? In short, wouldn't floats be "accurate enough?" Read that as accurate enough to indicate full, 3/4, 1/2, 1/4 and empty? John Jessen -> Emp (2%) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Ochs Subject: RV10-List: Capacitance fuel senders  --> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org> Hi All, I know this has been discussed before but I couldn't find any definitive solutions in the previous posts... I'd prefer capacitance fuel senders to floats for my 10, and as I'm getting ready to order the wings I'm trying to figure out what to do about it. Has anyone put any in their 10 yet? Any ideas? Should I just go with one of the probe type with the concentric tubes as opposed to waiting for the plates for the 10? Anyone heard from vans recently on this issue? Thanks, James #40400 -- There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. - Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'


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    Time: 10:25:53 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Engine Mount Ears
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> The issue is that not all IO-540's have the same mounting brackets (ears, bosses, legs, "whatever name you prefer for them"). Van's website says that any parallel valve IO-540 will work, which is right, but some of them will need new ears to fit their engine mount. They just realized that this was an issue that some customers will have to work out. I guess they have never done anything with an IO-540 until now, and since so few of their customers for the -10 have engines mounted, they didn't find out about the ear issue until recently. Does that help? I found a set for $400 already tested and painted, but I spent all morning calling around the country to find them. It seems that the large-hole ears are more plentiful than the small-hole ones, which is what we need. It would be nice if they would make another engine mount option for these other mounts. It would not take much engineering to modify the angle of the mount holes. The bigger ears would provide more "cushion" for the engine, as seems to be the consensus of all the people I talked to. I would much rather the need to pick which engine mount I need than to have to modify my engine. Well, that's my rant for today. Time to get the plane scuffed for the paint shop this afternoon. It's coming together! Oshkosh here we come (knock on wood). Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Mount Ears --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Can you define "issue" ?? Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Fuselage DO NOT ARCHIVE Jesse Saint wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> > > I got an IO-540 C4B5 off an Aztec. Van's said that they have just found out > that there is an issue with this and don't have any immediate plans to make > an engine mount for the other version. That's a little disappointing. > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > W: 352-465-4545 > C: 352-427-0285 > F: 815-377-3694 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil Hall > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 3:19 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Mount Ears > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Phil Hall <phil@asibuildings.com> > > Jesse, > > What model # engine do you have? I am hoping I don't have the same problem. > > Phil > 40122 > > At 05:42 PM 5/22/2005 -0400, you wrote: > > >>We bought a TBO engine off an Aztec and had it rebuilt. We were working > > on > >>hanging our engine on Saturday and it didn t seem to line up. It took > > about > >>an hour for us to realize that it wasn t just our imagination, but the > > engine > >>didn t fit the mount. It was close, but the holes on the engine ears were > > a > >>lot bigger that the rubbers were made for and the angle of the engine > > mount > >>from Van s and the engine ears were not the same, although they were in > > the > >>right location. Has anybody else heard about this? Do we have the wrong >>engine? Are there different ears that we can buy and bolt onto the engine >>that will fit? I can send pictures, but first wanted to know if this is a >>common (or at least heard of before) problem. >> >> >> >>It s hard to fly to Oshkosh with and engine that won t mount correctly. > > We > >>are getting down to the line as far as being flying in time to get it > > there. > >>It s on the gear and getting painted this week. Panel is assembled and >>getting wired up. It s time to get the non-Van s stuff on and hooked up. >>Any help would be appreciated. >> >> >> >>Thanks. >> >> >> >>Jesse Saint >> >>I-TEC, Inc. >> >><mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>jesse@itecusa.org >> >>www.itecusa.org >> >>W: 352-465-4545 >> >>C: 352-427-0285 >> >>F: 815-377-3694 >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:30:00 PM PST US
    From: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
    Subject: Re: Capacitance fuel senders
    --> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org> My (limited) experience with float sensors has pretty much been in Cessna's and my conclusion is that it's probably better not to have fuel gauges at all. They stick, they read the wrong values, they move around so much that the reading is pretty much useless. If the tank is too full they read empty (this is a behaviour I've noticed in the post 2000 models they have at my local FBO). All kinds of stupid. I think they took it to heart when the FAA said the only place it needs to be accurate is at 0 (which is pretty dumb if you ask me) When I get to the point of putting together my tanks, panel and engine there will be fuel flow / totalizer all that good stuff + fuel gauges. I also generally dip the tanks if there is any question about how much fuel is in there on a visual inspection because I am really anal about fuel... I also tend to be a bit obsessive-compulsive about measuring devices... if it ain't accurate, whats the point? But that's just me ;) BTW, I emailed vans about the plates for the -10 and they said: they are in the engineering 'hopper' at this time but we don't have a definitive target date. I'd guess at least a couple months. van's James John Jessen wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> > >Question: Why use capacitance over float? Other than some degree of >accuracy? Why not go with something more fool proof, such as a dip stick? >Then use fuel flow? In short, wouldn't floats be "accurate enough?" Read >that as accurate enough to indicate full, 3/4, 1/2, 1/4 and empty? > >John Jessen >-> Emp (2%) > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Ochs >Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 4:01 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Capacitance fuel senders > > > >--> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org> > >Hi All, > >I know this has been discussed before but I couldn't find any definitive >solutions in the previous posts... I'd prefer capacitance fuel senders to >floats for my 10, and as I'm getting ready to order the wings I'm trying to >figure out what to do about it. Has anyone put any in their 10 yet? Any >ideas? Should I just go with one of the probe type with the concentric tubes >as opposed to waiting for the plates for the 10? Anyone heard from vans >recently on this issue? > >Thanks, >James >#40400 > >-- >There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw >yourself at the ground and miss. - Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to >the Galaxy' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'


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    Time: 04:27:18 PM PST US
    From: LarryRosen@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Capacitance fuel senders
    I do not know what Van's plans, but Evan's Aviation Products http://www.evansaviationproducts.com/capacitive%20sender%20modification.htm will install a capacitive sender into the RV10 tanks that they put together. They may be able to help you out. Larry Rosen Waiting on QB wings -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs > > Hi All, > > I know this has been discussed before but I couldn't find any definitive > solutions in the previous posts... I'd prefer capacitance fuel senders > to floats for my 10, and as I'm getting ready to order the wings I'm > trying to figure out what to do about it. Has anyone put any in their 10 > yet? Any ideas? Should I just go with one of the probe type with the > concentric tubes as opposed to waiting for the plates for the 10? Anyone > heard from vans recently on this issue? > > Thanks, > James > #40400 > > -- > There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw > yourself at the ground and miss. Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the > Galaxy' > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know what Van's plans, but Evan's Aviation Products http://www.evansaviationproducts.com/capacitive%20sender%20modification.htm will install a capacitive sender into the RV10 tanks that they put together. They may be able to help you out. Larry Rosen Waiting on QB wings -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs <JOCHS@FROODY.ORG> Hi All, I know this has been discussed before but I couldn't find any definitive solutions in the previous posts... I'd prefer capacitance fuel senders to floats for my 10, and as I'm getting ready to order the wings I'm trying to figure out what to do about it. Has anyone put any in their 10 yet? Any ideas? Should I just go with one of the probe type with the concentric tubes as opposed to waiting for the plates for the 10? Anyone heard from vans recently on this issue? Thanks, James #40400 -- There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. Douglas


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    Time: 10:45:39 PM PST US
    spamd1.ruraltel.net * -4.0 RCVD_FROM_NEXTECH_2 Message came from 24.225.10-29.x network * 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay * lines
    From: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
    Subject: Which bucking bar
    Which bucking bar are you guys using for the HS-905 nose ribs on the HS??? Is this where the special RV-10 bucking bar comes into play??? TIA Bill Britton RV-10 Emp #40137 Riveting HS


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    Time: 10:53:04 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: Flap Motor
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    For various reasons, we're going to have a 24 V bus system in our -10, which can be a pain sometimes, like with the 12 V flap motor. For the short duration that the Flap motor runs, what about the crazy idea of just going ahead and running that sucker on 24 volts? Might speed up the Flap deployment, too. Or is that just a stupid way to burn out the motor? While we're on the subject, is anyone doing a simple limit-switch "one-touch" flap retraction arrangement? Where are you mounting the limit switch? On the flaps themselves, or is there any way to do it on the flap motor or actuator assembly? TDT 40025


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    Time: 10:53:06 PM PST US
    From: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
    Subject: Capacitance fuel senders
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net> James I decided to go with totalizers, and not put senders in the tanks. After a short learning session, they will be more accurate than either type of fuel sender.. Bob K -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Ochs Subject: RV10-List: Capacitance fuel senders --> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org> Hi All, I know this has been discussed before but I couldn't find any definitive solutions in the previous posts... I'd prefer capacitance fuel senders to floats for my 10, and as I'm getting ready to order the wings I'm trying to figure out what to do about it. Has anyone put any in their 10 yet? Any ideas? Should I just go with one of the probe type with the concentric tubes as opposed to waiting for the plates for the 10? Anyone heard from vans recently on this issue? Thanks, James #40400 -- There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. - Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'


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    Time: 11:06:24 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Randy's First Flight Video by Bruce
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Actually, it got my wife that way too. Like seeing a baby be born, isn't it. ;) Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Fuselage DO NOT ARCHIVE Sean Stephens wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net> > > Did anyone else shed a tear at the end? Or was it just me. I can't > wait for the day! :) > > Sean #40303 > > do not archive > > Tim Olson wrote: > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> >> >> We're in luck. After 30 hours or so of uploading, I got the video from >> bruce and was able to convert it into both a VCD compatible MPEG >> thats about 80Mb in size, and a .wmv Windows Media Player compatible >> video that's pretty comparable quality that's only 18Mb in size. >> They're both available on Randy's page at: >> >> http://www.myrv10.com/N610RV/index.html >> >> To download them, I suggest right-clicking the links and choosing >> "save as" or "save link as" and saving them right to your PC >> for playback. >> >> I'm also processing a DVD quality MPEG2 for the hardcore people with >> bandwidth to spare. Most people will be plenty happy of the .wmv >> file though. >> >> After a couple days I'll pull the plug on the DVD and VCD versions >> since I don't own the bandwidth they're being sent from. >> >> Tim >> > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:17:22 PM PST US
    From: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
    Subject: milestone #1
    Just finished the Vertical Stab! 29 hours, which included rattle can priming. Is it just me or does it always take longer to rivet than you think? I figured that would be one of the faster parts of the build, but just the VS took me a full 10 hours to rivet. Maybe I just needed a steep learning curve on technique. Oh, I also contacted my local EAA Tech Counselor last Friday, and met him at a local Fly-in on Saturday. I wanted to establish contact with a TC and get my work on the VS looked at before I closed it up. He said good to go and we filled out the form. As a side note, he told me that if you get at least 3 TC inspections done during the course of your build, EAA's insurance program will cover you on first flight (I guess provided you get the coverage; it's not automatic), and he recommended that RVs only need 5-6 inspections during build. I assume some of you know this and may be able to expound some. I thought it a good idea to share with the rest of us in the early stages to get plugged in. It also helps to have that second set of experienced eyes looking over your work! Rob Wright #40392 N524RX Reserved Emp kit ~15% done


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    Time: 11:17:22 PM PST US
    From: "DejaVu" <wvu@mail.ameritel.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: Alternator?
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@mail.ameritel.net> Tim, I found many posts in the archive. Below is one that's probably more comprehensive than most. Anh #141 (waiting for achilles tendon to heal while cheating and working on doors) The mount type is determined by the engine you have. All current engines should use the newer boss mount. The case mount is only for very old style engines. The boss mount bolts onto a flat machined area on the case on the lower right forward side of the case. There are two or three holes tapped into this machined area that you bolt the bracket onto. The older 'case' mount uses the case through bolts to attach the alternator bracket. Look in Van's parts catalog and you will see a picture of their alternator kit. It is for boss mount only. If unsure, talk to B&C. Herman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com> Subject: RV10-List: RE: Alternator? Browsing around, what's the difference between "case mount" and "boss mount" alternators? And is there a difference between different IO-540 models, or are they all one or the other? TDT 40025 ---


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    Time: 11:29:40 PM PST US
    From: <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Capacitance fuel senders
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <ricksked@earthlink.net> They are more accurate, no moving parts. I perfer a dip stick check anyhow, several builders I have talked to are planning on using a fuel totalizer system anyhow. That's my plan along with the good ol' floats as a back up. I'll still pop the caps and look inside prior to flight.Old habit are hard to break. Rick S. 40185 Wings ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Capacitance fuel senders > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> > > Question: Why use capacitance over float? Other than some degree of > accuracy? Why not go with something more fool proof, such as a dip stick? > Then use fuel flow? In short, wouldn't floats be "accurate enough?" Read > that as accurate enough to indicate full, 3/4, 1/2, 1/4 and empty? > > John Jessen > -> Emp (2%) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Ochs > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 4:01 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Capacitance fuel senders > >  > > --> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org> > > Hi All, > > I know this has been discussed before but I couldn't find any definitive > solutions in the previous posts... I'd prefer capacitance fuel senders to > floats for my 10, and as I'm getting ready to order the wings I'm trying > to > figure out what to do about it. Has anyone put any in their 10 yet? Any > ideas? Should I just go with one of the probe type with the concentric > tubes > as opposed to waiting for the plates for the 10? Anyone heard from vans > recently on this issue? > > Thanks, > James > #40400 > > -- > There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw > yourself at the ground and miss. - Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide > to > the Galaxy' > > >


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    Time: 11:34:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Engine Mount Ears
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> All, A bit more info - I just checked my engine - mount ears are 70456, have a hole ID of ~1.3 inches and are 30 degrees. According to an earlier post from somebody that knows more than me, these are the correct ones for the Van's engine mount. For those that aren't so lucky, I saw a set of 4 ears on ebay (listing #4551583279). New price is almost $300 each!!! Bob #40105


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    Time: 11:36:50 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine Mount Ears
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Thanks for the note back Jesse! You gave me a great reason to call Aerosport and check on the progress of my engine. Now I can make sure they get it right the first time. I'm assuming that these ears are standard that when you buy a rebuilt, they come with them.... hopefully. Tim Jesse Saint wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> > > The issue is that not all IO-540's have the same mounting brackets (ears, > bosses, legs, "whatever name you prefer for them"). Van's website says that > any parallel valve IO-540 will work, which is right, but some of them will > need new ears to fit their engine mount. They just realized that this was > an issue that some customers will have to work out. I guess they have never > done anything with an IO-540 until now, and since so few of their customers > for the -10 have engines mounted, they didn't find out about the ear issue > until recently. > > Does that help? I found a set for $400 already tested and painted, but I > spent all morning calling around the country to find them. It seems that > the large-hole ears are more plentiful than the small-hole ones, which is > what we need. It would be nice if they would make another engine mount > option for these other mounts. It would not take much engineering to modify > the angle of the mount holes. The bigger ears would provide more "cushion" > for the engine, as seems to be the consensus of all the people I talked to. > I would much rather the need to pick which engine mount I need than to have > to modify my engine. > > Well, that's my rant for today. Time to get the plane scuffed for the paint > shop this afternoon. It's coming together! Oshkosh here we come (knock on > wood). > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > W: 352-465-4545 > C: 352-427-0285 > F: 815-377-3694 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 3:09 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Mount Ears > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Can you define "issue" ?? > > Tim > > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 > Current project: Fuselage > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > Jesse Saint wrote: > >>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> >> >>I got an IO-540 C4B5 off an Aztec. Van's said that they have just found > > out > >>that there is an issue with this and don't have any immediate plans to > > make > >>an engine mount for the other version. That's a little disappointing. >> >>Jesse Saint >>I-TEC, Inc. >>jesse@itecusa.org >>www.itecusa.org >>W: 352-465-4545 >>C: 352-427-0285 >>F: 815-377-3694 >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil Hall >>Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 3:19 AM >>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine Mount Ears >> >>--> RV10-List message posted by: Phil Hall <phil@asibuildings.com> >> >>Jesse, >> >>What model # engine do you have? I am hoping I don't have the same > > problem. > >>Phil >>40122 >> >>At 05:42 PM 5/22/2005 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >> >>>We bought a TBO engine off an Aztec and had it rebuilt. We were working >> >>on >> >> >>>hanging our engine on Saturday and it didn t seem to line up. It took >> >>about >> >> >>>an hour for us to realize that it wasn t just our imagination, but the >> >>engine >> >> >>>didn t fit the mount. It was close, but the holes on the engine ears were >> >>a >> >> >>>lot bigger that the rubbers were made for and the angle of the engine >> >>mount >> >>>from Van s and the engine ears were not the same, although they were in >> >>the >> >> >>>right location. Has anybody else heard about this? Do we have the wrong >>>engine? Are there different ears that we can buy and bolt onto the engine >>>that will fit? I can send pictures, but first wanted to know if this is a >>>common (or at least heard of before) problem. >>> >>> >>> >>>It s hard to fly to Oshkosh with and engine that won t mount correctly. >> >>We >> >> >>>are getting down to the line as far as being flying in time to get it >> >>there. >> >> >>>It s on the gear and getting painted this week. Panel is assembled and >>>getting wired up. It s time to get the non-Van s stuff on and hooked up. >>>Any help would be appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>>Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>>Jesse Saint >>> >>>I-TEC, Inc. >>> >>><mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>jesse@itecusa.org >>> >>>www.itecusa.org >>> >>>W: 352-465-4545 >>> >>>C: 352-427-0285 >>> >>>F: 815-377-3694 >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:36:51 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: Alternator?
    The difference is in the engine cases. The case mount uses a bracket that uses the case flange connecting bolts to secure it. The boss mount has a cast-in pad/boss with studs to mount the bracket. The brackets are obviously different. This may be another distinction between narrow and wide deck engines as my narrow deck O-360 had a case mount. The 540's have narrow and wide deck versions too. The boss type is the newer and preferred style. Greg ________________________________ Browsing around, what's the difference between "case mount" and "boss mount" alternators? And is there a difference between different IO-540 models, or are they all one or the other? TDT 40025


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    Time: 11:45:33 PM PST US
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    From: AVIATION GROUP <aviationgrp@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Aviation News
    AVIATION News is to view & share your valuable comments and the latest trends and happenings in the aviation industry. Please click on the attached yahoo group link site to share & receive the updates on the latest happenings, business ventures, business opportunities, Air Shows and Exhibitions, New Aircraft releases, and certifications, Career news, Appointments etc. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AVIATION-NEWS/ "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@uta.cog.ut.us> wrote: A buddy of mine has been doing videos for years. A number of years ago we had to shoot some video of the ground from the window of a 172. my buddy sat in the back seat and we shot footage for 20 minutes or so of a stream in central Wyoming. The video turned out great. Its just a really cheap steady cam. Anyway, got my wings last week and and immediately started dry fitting the fuel tanks. I keep hearing how they are a real pain in the neck, so I decided to get them out of the way first. Im really happy for the success of your first and subsequent lights. May everyone building have the same. Bob schroeder Wings 40254 -----Original Message----- From: Randy DeBauw [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather watch for first flight. Never hear that one. I will first try the tripod method. After all this is an RV10 the smoothest airplane in the air. Well sort of. Randy --------------------------------- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather watch for first flight. --> RV10-List message posted by: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@uta.cog.ut.us> Randy, This might sound surprising, but you can put a beach ball in the back seat and tie down the camera on top of it. If you tie it down correctly, the beach ball is big enough, and it is pointed just right, you should get some great shots that should be vibration free. It's cheap and affective. Good luck. Bob schroeder Wings 40254 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy@abros.com Clerk) Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather watch for first flight. --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com> If it is raining first thing in the morning as predicted then I may have time. That would be cool. Randy -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Combs Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather watch for first flight. --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com> Randy, Any possibility of mounting a camera in the back seats looking over your shoulder (middle of the cabin). Tape the 'First Flight' from inside the cockpit? I would suggest some sort of mount that can be seat belted in. Connect the audio up to the intercom? Would be good documentation and give the rest of us following your lead somehting to really drool over! Jim Combs #40192 Do Not Archive ==================================== RV10-List Email Forum - bsp; s.com/Navigator?RV10-List ====================================




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