RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 06/10/05


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 07:37 AM - Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. (Hamilton Cartwright)
     2. 07:46 AM - Re: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
     3. 08:09 AM - Re: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. (Rene Felker)
     4. 08:59 AM - Re: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. (John Jessen)
     5. 10:27 AM - Re: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. (Rene Felker)
     6. 10:49 AM - Static System Connections] (JOHN STARN)
     7. 10:55 AM - Re: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. (Jesse Saint)
     8. 12:03 PM - Wire Tool (Sean Stephens)
     9. 12:13 PM - Re: Paint (Dj Merrill)
    10. 02:44 PM - Re: Wire Tool (linn walters)
    11. 07:15 PM - Another 10 Flys (Larry)
    12. 07:20 PM - Re: Anywhere MAP/WX (Tim Lewis)
    13. 07:53 PM - Re: Another 10 Flys (John W. Cox)
    14. 07:53 PM - Re: Another 10 Flys (Tim Olson)
    15. 08:11 PM - Re: Another 10 Flys (John W. Cox)
    16. 11:40 PM - Re: Anywhere MAP/WX (John Jessen)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:37:18 AM PST US
    From: "Hamilton Cartwright" <hamc101@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect.
    What is everyone doing about aileron trim ? I have not seen any discussion on Trimming ailerons . Hamilton 40238 Fuse and eng.rebuild hamc101@bellsouth.net


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    Time: 07:46:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect.
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    There was something in a recent RVator about Van's coming out with electric aileron trim but it hasn't shown up on their web site yet. Bob #40105 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hamilton Cartwright Subject: RV10-List: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. What is everyone doing about aileron trim ? I have not seen any discussion on Trimming ailerons . Hamilton 40238 Fuse and eng.rebuild hamc101@bellsouth.net


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    Time: 08:09:15 AM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect.
    When I took my demo flight a couple of weeks ago I asked that question. There response was that it was a good idea, and I noted that it was used during the flight. Rene' N423CF 40322 Half way through tanks...the not so messy half -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hamilton Cartwright Subject: RV10-List: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. What is everyone doing about aileron trim ? I have not seen any discussion on Trimming ailerons . Hamilton 40238 Fuse and eng.rebuild hamc101@bellsouth.net


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    Time: 08:59:35 AM PST US
    d="scan'208,217"; a="45526375:sNHT2831283422"
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect.
    It was used during the flight? Does that mean the demo plane has aileron trim? It just isn't for sale through Van's? As usual I'm now confused. John Jessen _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. When I took my demo flight a couple of weeks ago I asked that question. There response was that it was a good idea, and I noted that it was used during the flight. Rene' N423CF 40322 Half way through tanks...the not so messy half -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hamilton Cartwright Subject: RV10-List: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. What is everyone doing about aileron trim ? I have not seen any discussion on Trimming ailerons . Hamilton 40238 Fuse and eng.rebuild hamc101@bellsouth.net


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    Time: 10:27:13 AM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect.
    I try to keep everyone confused. Yes, I think it had aileron trim and the pilot used it. I ordered the 9 version, but I am not sure that will really work. Rene' N423CF 40322 Half way through tanks...the not so messy half -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. It was used during the flight? Does that mean the demo plane has aileron trim? It just isn't for sale through Van's? As usual I'm now confused. John Jessen _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. When I took my demo flight a couple of weeks ago I asked that question. There response was that it was a good idea, and I noted that it was used during the flight. Rene' N423CF 40322 Half way through tanks...the not so messy half -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hamilton Cartwright Subject: RV10-List: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. What is everyone doing about aileron trim ? I have not seen any discussion on Trimming ailerons . Hamilton 40238 Fuse and eng.rebuild hamc101@bellsouth.net


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    Time: 10:49:10 AM PST US
    From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
    Subject: Static System Connections]
    "rocket-list" <rocket-list@matronics.com>, "rv10-list" <rv10-list@matronics.com> --> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net> The ports look like the ones we installed. The thing I question is the 5 tee's and the 5 bolt/nut combo's. It looks like the tee has a tab or "ear" that I would assume is for mounting. This is better than what we used to attach to the ribs. The 90 degree elbows was the one thing I liked about our methods and the kit has them. If I had to do again (and I will) I'd buy the kit. I'm going to save your post and add it to the RV lists. KABONG Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry" <LarryRosen@comcast.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Static System Connections] > I was sorting through my RV emails and I re-read this on. I am about to > order a static port system. I am considering the system from safe air > here <http://www.safeair1.com/index.htm>. They are similar to the ACS > ports, they are threaded for a hard elbow. I can purchase the two ports > for $23.95 or an entire kit including fitting and tubing for $79.95. Any > opinion on these ports. Also, the kit will make things simpler, do you > think there is value in it? > > Larry Rosen > Emp almost complet > Waiting on QB wings. > Long & detailed on an old subject. Worth the read if your working on the > static system. > We used the ACS part# 15160 static port (page# 337) and Nylo-seal > fittings ACS part# 269-N 04X02 male elbow (page 110) and the 264-N 04 > union tee for the totally enclosed part of the static system on HRII > N561FS. These ports have a raised center that fits thru a 1/4" hole in the > side. It sticks thru far enough to still be raised off the surface after > painting. Why did we spend the extra $38.00 bucks for these parts ?. > First, the machined port looks like a machined part rather than the > head of a "pop" rivet. > Second, (and the most important) was it allows the use of the 90 degree > elbow fitting that's takes ALL the stress off the port (pop > rivet end) and the required bend in the tubing. We could have used > the "regular" hose & tube fitting (page 111) but since we only open this > area for annual "conditional inspections" we felt better about > the mechanical joint/ no stress connections. > Third, the tubing is not stretched over a barb which can cause the tube > to split at some later date. > Fourth, we were building Rocket and wanted it to look like a Rocket. > Did we use "pop" rivets on the Rocket ?. Of course BUT not where > is shows. 8*) > If you have read any of my other posts you know that I believe in KISS > (Keep It Simple Stupid) method BUT in my not so humble opinion, the use of > the above fittings both here & in the rest of the Rocket make service > and/or replacement Simple only because you can easily take the system > apart and then put it back together. I wouldn't do that with the barb ends > IF you can get them apart in the first place. > This is only my opinion. Your circumstances/mileage may vary. No > offence Jerry, we used lots of your suggestions while building N561FS. You > taught this Old Dog some new tricks.


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    Time: 10:55:56 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect.
    We are planning on using the AeroTrim servo installed on the aileron since we have already closed it up and can't put a servo inside. I have only seen one flying on an RV-6 and the guy said he loved it. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hamilton Cartwright Subject: RV10-List: Aileron Trim Manual or Elect. What is everyone doing about aileron trim ? I have not seen any discussion on Trimming ailerons . Hamilton 40238 Fuse and eng.rebuild hamc101@bellsouth.net


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    Time: 12:03:21 PM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
    Subject: Wire Tool
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net> What wire stripper are builders using for their projects. I'd kind of like to get a feel for options other than the Stripmaster top-o-the-line model and see if there are other alternatives (other than getting good with the old fashion method). Anyone use models like such <http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/prodinfo.asp?number=WS39>? I've read the articles on Bob Nuckolls' site.... -Sean #40303 ailerons


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    Time: 12:13:24 PM PST US
    From: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
    Subject: Re: Paint
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu> Tim Olson wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Not a bad idea.....better than putting my hanger as a background, > right....hope it doesn't spend TOO much time in there. ;) > > Tim If it does I may have to come take that poor, neglected bird out of your hands. Think of it like the "rescue" groups for abused dogs... ;-) -Dj


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    Time: 02:44:43 PM PST US
    From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Wire Tool
    --> RV10-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> I'm not familiar with that model wire stripper ..... or how it works!!! A plain grab, slice and pull type of auto stripper should work fine. For most wire that is. Some of the teflon coated wire is so slippery that the automatic stripper misses the first part ... grab .... and doesn't work. So,then you whip out your trusty single-edged razor blade and neatly circumcise the wire. Take a rubber alligator boot and place the small end over the insulation, grab and pull. Should come off easily. Linn Sean Stephens wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net> > > What wire stripper are builders using for their projects. I'd kind of > like to get a feel for options other than the Stripmaster > top-o-the-line model and see if there are other alternatives (other > than getting good with the old fashion method). > > Anyone use models like such > <http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/prodinfo.asp?number=WS39>? > > I've read the articles on Bob Nuckolls' site.... > > -Sean #40303 ailerons > > --


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    Time: 07:15:03 PM PST US
    From: Larry <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Another 10 Flys
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry <LarryRosen@comcast.net> Another RV-10 flew today. I guess that is number 4 (or 6 if you count the factory birds). Serial number 40194. Wow, what would that be 12 months build time? Larry Better start pounding some more rivets


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    Time: 07:20:55 PM PST US
    From: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu>
    Subject: Re: Anywhere MAP/WX
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu> I use a Fujitsu daylight readable tablet PC to display WxWorx data in my RV-6A. The Fujitsu is attached to a bracket on the right side of the instrument panel, so it is panel mounted (sort of) and tilted toward me. I'll do something similar in my -10. WxWorx data is awesome. Being able to see precip and lightning 100 miles ahead takes a lot of worry out of IFR. Tim -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) RV-6A N47TD -- 740 hrs RV-10 #40059 under construction Jesse Saint wrote: > I have been thinking a lot about the possibilities of using software > like Anywhere Map and their Anywhere WX options on a laptop or > panel-mounted LCD screen to have good, high-detail moving map and > weather in the cockpit. It looks like this can be done for about $3,000 > plus a monthly subscription to the XM Weather plan. Is anybody else > planning on doing this? Does anybody else have experience with this or > any other similar system? I would rather pay $3,000 and have the > flexibility that this would offer than pay $5,000-6,000 for the upgrade > for my Garmin 430. It would also allow me to take the system with me in > other planes if there was room. Also, a 12 screen dedicated to map and > weather would be very nice to look at, and it could play DVDs or could > be used for catching up on the RV-10 list e-mails while the TruTrak is > in control. > > > > Any thoughts, warnings, encouragement, etc is welcome! > > > > Does anybody know the serial number of the 3 rd -10 flying? This > definitely seems like it is going to be the year of the -10. > > > > Jesse Saint > > I-TEC, Inc. > > jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> > > www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org> > > W: 352-465-4545 > > C: 352-427-0285 > > F: 815-377-3694 > > >


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    Time: 07:53:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Another 10 Flys
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Congrats to Leroy Williams of Manhattan Beach, CA and the team built N231LD. That's six in the air and right on target for my projection of 12 flying RV-10s by OSH '05. Would still like to see the 500th kit sold by then. 45 days and counting. #40194 is enlighteningly close to #40191 (remember James McClow) and now in Texas with James Riley. John - KUAO -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Subject: RV10-List: Another 10 Flys --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry <LarryRosen@comcast.net> Another RV-10 flew today. I guess that is number 4 (or 6 if you count the factory birds). Serial number 40194. Wow, what would that be 12 months build time? Larry Better start pounding some more rivets


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    Time: 07:53:47 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Another 10 Flys
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Well, I'm 170 and I was delivered in late Jan. 2004. My guess is that he'd be starting maybe in March-May 2004....so you're really close...probably 12-14 months total. Wonder if he was a QB or slow (fast) build. Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Fuselage DO NOT ARCHIVE Larry wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry <LarryRosen@comcast.net> > > Another RV-10 flew today. I guess that is number 4 (or 6 if you count > the factory birds). > > Serial number 40194. Wow, what would that be 12 months build time? > > Larry > Better start pounding some more rivets >


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    Time: 08:11:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Another 10 Flys
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Probably a retired A&P (well known repeat offender) with Dan as a quality bucking buddy. There's probably three more just off the radar doing the same thing. Still would like to hear from Jim Riley and James Mcclow's sale. John DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Another 10 Flys --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Well, I'm 170 and I was delivered in late Jan. 2004. My guess is that he'd be starting maybe in March-May 2004....so you're really close...probably 12-14 months total. Wonder if he was a QB or slow (fast) build. Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Fuselage DO NOT ARCHIVE Larry wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry <LarryRosen@comcast.net> > > Another RV-10 flew today. I guess that is number 4 (or 6 if you count > the factory birds). > > Serial number 40194. Wow, what would that be 12 months build time? > > Larry > Better start pounding some more rivets >


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    Time: 11:40:04 PM PST US
    d="scan'208"; a="45802565:sNHT30763728"
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Anywhere MAP/WX
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> How about some pics? John Jessen -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Lewis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Anywhere MAP/WX --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu> I use a Fujitsu daylight readable tablet PC to display WxWorx data in my RV-6A. The Fujitsu is attached to a bracket on the right side of the instrument panel, so it is panel mounted (sort of) and tilted toward me. I'll do something similar in my -10. WxWorx data is awesome. Being able to see precip and lightning 100 miles ahead takes a lot of worry out of IFR. Tim -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) RV-6A N47TD -- 740 hrs RV-10 #40059 under construction Jesse Saint wrote: > I have been thinking a lot about the possibilities of using software > like Anywhere Map and their Anywhere WX options on a laptop or > panel-mounted LCD screen to have good, high-detail moving map and > weather in the cockpit. It looks like this can be done for about > $3,000 plus a monthly subscription to the XM Weather plan. Is anybody > else planning on doing this? Does anybody else have experience with > this or any other similar system? I would rather pay $3,000 and have > the flexibility that this would offer than pay $5,000-6,000 for the > upgrade for my Garmin 430. It would also allow me to take the system > with me in other planes if there was room. Also, a 12" screen > dedicated to map and weather would be very nice to look at, and it > could play DVD's or could be used for catching up on the RV-10 list > e-mails while the TruTrak is in control. > > > > Any thoughts, warnings, encouragement, etc is welcome! > > > > Does anybody know the serial number of the 3 rd -10 flying? This > definitely seems like it is going to be the year of the -10. > > > > Jesse Saint > > I-TEC, Inc. > > jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> > > www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org> > > W: 352-465-4545 > > C: 352-427-0285 > > F: 815-377-3694 > > >




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