---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/23/05: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:49 AM - Re: panel musing #1 (Noel & Yoshie Simmons) 2. 06:50 AM - Re: panel musing #1 (Noel & Yoshie Simmons) 3. 07:18 AM - What Starter is everyone using on there IO-540 RV10? (Doerr, Ray R [NTK]) 4. 08:07 AM - Re: What Starter is everyone using on there IO-540 RV10? (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com) 5. 08:07 AM - Re: What Starter is everyone using on there IO-540 RV10? (Jesse Saint) 6. 08:26 AM - Handheld Nav/Com (off topic) (John Jessen) 7. 08:29 AM - Re: Handheld Nav/Com (off topic) (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com) 8. 09:03 AM - Re: Handheld Nav/Com (off topic) (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto) 9. 10:56 AM - GRT EIS dual display (John Hasbrouck) 10. 11:16 AM - Re: GRT EIS dual display (John W. Cox) 11. 04:42 PM - Pneumatic Squeezer Help (Larry) 12. 05:04 PM - Van's Conduit In Wing (Sean Stephens) 13. 05:49 PM - Re: Van's Conduit In Wing (Jesse Saint) 14. 05:51 PM - Empty weight (Jesse Saint) 15. 08:12 PM - Re: Van's Conduit In Wing (Tim Olson) 16. 08:21 PM - Paint colors and temperatures on the fiberglass (Tim Olson) 17. 09:20 PM - Re: Van's Conduit In Wing (Sean Stephens) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:30 AM PST US From: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel musing #1 It is an Ernst Benz. I really like it and use it a lot. It took me a little bit to teach my fingers how to stop and reset it quickly, easy enough just push the left button first & hold while pushing the right button then release both simultaneously. I like lots of storage space and yes those other things are secrets. Noel _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel musing #1 Noel: I like that clock in the cub! Where's that from? TDT Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Noel & Yoshie Simmons Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel musing #1 I am using the GRT EFIS in my super cub and RV-10. I have an Essential buss on a smaller battery that runs the EIS AHARS & #1 EFIS this gives me my engine pages on start up. So on the walk around the fist thing I do is check switches and cockpit controls and turn on the e-buss master. By the time I get back into the cockpit for start, it is up and ready. To answer your question about time for lite off it is about 45 seconds (seams to be forever if you sit there and wait. No don't put any other engine incitements in you panel just give your self some redundancy in the electrical system and use it. Noel _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert G. Wright Subject: RV10-List: panel musing #1 While waiting for my rudder Trailing Edge to set, I gave my panel some hard thought tonight, and came up with this so far. All commentary welcome, especially for logic checking. #1 I'm thinking about GRT right now. Currently a money thing. As much as I'm already stretching the budget with this being a long-term investment, the Chelton just seems a bridge too far. I'll go ahead and (splurge) put the sorcerer in in this scenario unless some good hard-evidenced improving is done soon on the autopilot-software interface. #2 I think I need to add some transducer gauges for oil and fuel pressure until the EFIS comes fully online during startup (what is the lag time on the EFIS?) #3 Even using flush-mount bezel pictures, the three screen system just doesn't want to fit the panel much less the wallet. Even with all the functionality and real estate, I think I'd rather focus my learning on the IFR legal map system in the GNS-480. There's enough other redundancy built into the panel (I think) that it wasn't hard for me to ditch the three screen desire. I'll wait for that until I buy my Adam 500, etc. #4 Switch and knob setup is such that other than for startup (two hands), I'll be dialing, pushing, and pulling with my right hand, flying, trimming, talking with the left. So what other big things are jumping out at you? I'm writing this at almost 11:00 p.m., so the brain's shot. Rob Wright 40392 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:46 AM PST US From: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel musing #1 Yes there is a little notch in the center rib. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russell Daves Subject: Re: RV10-List: panel musing #1 Noel: Did you modify the ribs for placement of your GRT units? Best regards, Russ Daves ----- Original Message ----- From: Noel & Yoshie Simmons Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel musing #1 I am using the GRT EFIS in my super cub and RV-10. I have an Essential buss on a smaller battery that runs the EIS AHARS & #1 EFIS this gives me my engine pages on start up. So on the walk around the fist thing I do is check switches and cockpit controls and turn on the e-buss master. By the time I get back into the cockpit for start, it is up and ready. To answer your question about time for lite off it is about 45 seconds (seams to be forever if you sit there and wait. No don't put any other engine incitements in you panel just give your self some redundancy in the electrical system and use it. Noel _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert G. Wright Subject: RV10-List: panel musing #1 While waiting for my rudder Trailing Edge to set, I gave my panel some hard thought tonight, and came up with this so far. All commentary welcome, especially for logic checking. #1 I'm thinking about GRT right now. Currently a money thing. As much as I'm already stretching the budget with this being a long-term investment, the Chelton just seems a bridge too far. I'll go ahead and (splurge) put the sorcerer in in this scenario unless some good hard-evidenced improving is done soon on the autopilot-software interface. #2 I think I need to add some transducer gauges for oil and fuel pressure until the EFIS comes fully online during startup (what is the lag time on the EFIS?) #3 Even using flush-mount bezel pictures, the three screen system just doesn't want to fit the panel much less the wallet. Even with all the functionality and real estate, I think I'd rather focus my learning on the IFR legal map system in the GNS-480. There's enough other redundancy built into the panel (I think) that it wasn't hard for me to ditch the three screen desire. I'll wait for that until I buy my Adam 500, etc. #4 Switch and knob setup is such that other than for startup (two hands), I'll be dialing, pushing, and pulling with my right hand, flying, trimming, talking with the left. So what other big things are jumping out at you? I'm writing this at almost 11:00 p.m., so the brain's shot. Rob Wright 40392 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:14 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: What Starter is everyone using on there IO-540 RV10? From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" I'm currently researching what starter to put on my IO-540A4D5 engine. So far I am leaning towards the High-Torque Inline Starter (149-NL) from SkyTec. Does anyone have any comments on this subject? Good or bad are welcome. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:12 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: What Starter is everyone using on there IO-540 RV10? I called Skytec when I needed to get a starter. They told me the lightest and still the best starter is the one that vans sells. It is also the cheapest. Randy ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R [NTK] Subject: RV10-List: What Starter is everyone using on there IO-540 RV10? I'm currently researching what starter to put on my IO-540A4D5 engine. So far I am leaning towards the High-Torque Inline Starter (149-NL) from SkyTec. Does anyone have any comments on this subject? Good or bad are welcome. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:12 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: What Starter is everyone using on there IO-540 RV10? We are using the starter and alternator that Van's sells. Both seem to be working just fine (for those who were asking about the Van's alternators). Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R [NTK] Subject: RV10-List: What Starter is everyone using on there IO-540 RV10? I'm currently researching what starter to put on my IO-540A4D5 engine. So far I am leaning towards the High-Torque Inline Starter (149-NL) from SkyTec. Does anyone have any comments on this subject? Good or bad are welcome. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:59 AM PST US d="scan'208,217"; a="50825516:sNHT2389000184" From: "John Jessen" Subject: RV10-List: Handheld Nav/Com (off topic) I know nothing about, but I need to get a handheld nav/com for my flight bag. Figured I'd get a show price, maybe. Anyone got one they either love or hate, so I can get a sense of what I should be looking for or looking to avoid? Thanks, John Jessen ==> rudder Off topic, so do not archive. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:10 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Handheld Nav/Com (off topic) I will show you what I have John. If I see you working tonight I will show it to you. Thanks again for the help. Randy ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Subject: RV10-List: Handheld Nav/Com (off topic) I know nothing about, but I need to get a handheld nav/com for my flight bag. Figured I'd get a show price, maybe. Anyone got one they either love or hate, so I can get a sense of what I should be looking for or looking to avoid? Thanks, John Jessen > rudder Off topic, so do not archive. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:55 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Handheld Nav/Com (off topic) Have your cash ready on the last day of Oshkosh. Vendors are willing to deal on the last day . . . TDT -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Jessen Subject: RV10-List: Handheld Nav/Com (off topic) I know nothing about, but I need to get a handheld nav/com for my flight bag. Figured I'd get a show price, maybe. Anyone got one they either love or hate, so I can get a sense of what I should be looking for or looking to avoid? Thanks, John Jessen > rudder Off topic, so do not archive. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:56:31 AM PST US From: "John Hasbrouck" Subject: RV10-List: GRT EIS dual display --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" For anyone interested: e-bay avionics has a new GRT dual display setup for auction. Don't see the EIS in the pictures. 9+ days to go, strating bid $7,000.00. FWIW ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:16:35 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: GRT EIS dual display From: "John W. Cox" --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" Looks like another pre OSH '05 convert to a Chelton upgrade. What do you think Tim? John - KUAO -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hasbrouck Subject: RV10-List: GRT EIS dual display --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" For anyone interested: e-bay avionics has a new GRT dual display setup for auction. Don't see the EIS in the pictures. 9+ days to go, strating bid $7,000.00. FWIW ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:42:01 PM PST US From: Larry Subject: RV10-List: Pneumatic Squeezer Help --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Just got my pneumatic squeezer that I purchased off of eBay. It looks like it has seen better days. Recently there was a post from someone who took apart and rebuilt their squeezer. If you see this post please contact me off the list Larry Rosen LarryRosen AT comcast DOT net ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:04:58 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: RV10-List: Van's Conduit In Wing --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens Getting ready to order some of Van's conduit for the wings. I was wondering if the 25 ft. roll is enough. It seems like it would be really close. Not sure If I want to use that particular conduit in the fuse, so was hoping to just get the 25 ft. roll instead of the 50 ft. -Sean #40303 flaps ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:49:31 PM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Van's Conduit In Wing --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" We used some small PVC-type pipe in the wings. It was great for pushing cables through, which you couldn't do with the Van's conduit. I would recommend going with something that size but with a smooth an rigid inside surface. This way you can add wires without having to disconnect any or your wire ends. Also, you might want to have a break in the pipe at one of your inspection plates to hook up stuff in the middle of the wing like the stall warning and auto pilot servo. Just my $.02! Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Subject: RV10-List: Van's Conduit In Wing --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens Getting ready to order some of Van's conduit for the wings. I was wondering if the 25 ft. roll is enough. It seems like it would be really close. Not sure If I want to use that particular conduit in the fuse, so was hoping to just get the 25 ft. roll instead of the 50 ft. -Sean #40303 flaps ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:51:41 PM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RV10-List: Empty weight I forgot to mention the empty weight (we don't have the back seats in or most of the radios, but we are at 1,397.5 right now with most of the plane painted. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:55 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Van's Conduit In Wing --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Yes, a 25' roll will do the wings. I used the same stuff. You'll have about 1+ feet of spare. I'd definitely use larger stuff in the fuse.....did you see my orange stuff? Jesse's idea about smooth conduit isn't a bad idea either. I think this corrugated stuff will be nice too, but I think either would work. The benefit to the corrugated is that it wouldn't slide around back and forth, but tight smooth stuff would probably be fine too. If you check my page for that orange stuff for the fuse though, I really think that's about perfect for the fuse. Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Sean Stephens wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens > > Getting ready to order some of Van's conduit for the wings. I was > wondering if the 25 ft. roll is enough. It seems like it would be > really close. Not sure If I want to use that particular conduit in the > fuse, so was hoping to just get the 25 ft. roll instead of the 50 ft. > > -Sean #40303 flaps > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:48 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: Paint colors and temperatures on the fiberglass --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Over the past few days I've gotten a little good info from other list members for my tips link. I thought that this one was particularly interesting, given the amount of work John Cox put into it. John compared surface temperatures of planes, based on the color of the paint, and put together a great report. See this link: http://www.myrv10.com/tips/paint_temperatures.html I know a while back I'd asked about concerns regarding the use of dark paints on the canopy, and this report really shows some possible concerns. Also, if you go to this link: http://www.myrv10.com/tips you'll find some other cool info such as some info on static wicks that John Kirkland put together. We've got some great talent on this list, and it's great to have them contributing to our knowledge base. Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Fuselage ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:34 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: Van's Conduit In Wing --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens Thanks Tim. Ya, that's what I was leaning towards for the fuse, which is why I wanted to avoid the 50 ft. roll if at all possible. -Sean do not archive Tim Olson wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > Yes, a 25' roll will do the wings. I used the same stuff. > You'll have about 1+ feet of spare. I'd definitely > use larger stuff in the fuse.....did you see my orange stuff? > Jesse's idea about smooth conduit isn't a bad idea either. > I think this corrugated stuff will be nice too, but I think > either would work. The benefit to the corrugated is that it > wouldn't slide around back and forth, but tight smooth stuff > would probably be fine too. > > If you check my page for that orange stuff for the fuse though, > I really think that's about perfect for the fuse. > > > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 > > > Sean Stephens wrote: > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens >> >> Getting ready to order some of Van's conduit for the wings. I was >> wondering if the 25 ft. roll is enough. It seems like it would be >> really close. Not sure If I want to use that particular conduit in >> the fuse, so was hoping to just get the 25 ft. roll instead of the 50 >> ft. >> >> -Sean #40303 flaps >> > >