RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 07/01/05


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:20 AM - Re: Newbe!!!!! (Jim Wade)
     2. 05:54 AM - Re: Second Battery (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
     3. 06:46 AM - Re: -10 Static Ports. Just my opinion (Scott Lewis)
     4. 07:27 AM - Re: Toxic Solvents - Tank Sealant Quantity? (Brcue Patton)
     5. 08:14 AM - Re: - Aileron bearing (Darton Steve)
     6. 09:42 AM - Re: - Aileron bearing (Jim Combs)
     7. 11:35 AM - New medical condition to report (John Jessen)
     8. 12:35 PM - Re: New medical condition to report (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
     9. 12:55 PM - Re: New medical condition to report (Larry Rosen)
    10. 01:25 PM - SB wing kit and impending builder interuptus (Deems Davis)
    11. 02:26 PM - Re: New medical condition to report (Gary Specketer)
    12. 03:06 PM - Re: New medical condition to report (John Jessen)
    13. 03:32 PM - Re: SB wing kit and impending builder interuptus (James Hein)
    14. 04:15 PM - Re: -10 Static Ports. Just my opinion (Larry Rosen)
    15. 04:21 PM - Re: SB wing kit and impending builder interuptus (Larry Rosen)
    16. 06:01 PM - Bendix Magneto's (Sandra & Rick Lark)
    17. 08:12 PM - Tip for storing bottom wing skins (Eric Panning)
    18. 08:32 PM - Weld-On 10 Gouge (DejaVu)
    19. 10:44 PM - Re: Weld-On 10 Gouge (DejaVu)
    20. 10:56 PM - New Toy - Chelton Screenshots (Tim Olson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:20:32 AM PST US
    From: Jim Wade <jwadejr@direcway.com>
    Subject: Re: Newbe!!!!!
    Not sure how to reply to this,hope this works.Using Safeair1 tip tanks. -------Original Message------- From: James Hein Subject: Re: RV10-List: Newbe!!!!! --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net> Welcome neighbor! I'm just starting the Elevators, and am working totally alone so it appears you're way ahead of me now! What tip tanks are you going to use? -Jim 40384 Jim Wade wrote: > Just wanted to introduce Julie and I to you. We have been following > your emails with great interest, but have never posted any of our own. > We started our RV-10 empenage April 25th finished yesterday. Waiting > for fuselage and wings end of July. Slow build. We have learned a lot > just reading your posts, thanks for all the info. We will have all > glass panel, new lycoming, tip tanks, aero composite 2 blade prop. > This is the first kit plane we have built. We have restored several > antique aircraft. Working with all new parts is a dream!!!! Julie, my > wife works right along with me everyday and couldn't get it done > without her. Keep us the good work, you all are a great inspiration. > Blue Skies > Jim & Julie Wade > 40383 > >


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    Time: 05:54:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Second Battery
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> W&B info is on Tim's website at www.myrv10.com/tips/index.html along with a bunch of other useful info. Also, it's it bit more than 5.5 lbs as a total if you figure in the battery contactor. With that said though, it was Van's intent to have the CG as far forward as possibly because it's easy to move it aft (ballast, luggage, etc). It would be pretty difficult to move it the other way though. Bob #40105 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Subject: RE: RV10-List: Second Battery --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net> The dual Odyssey batteries seem like a pretty slick idea. Anyone have any practical CG numbers that could see if there's any potential situation with too aft a CG with the extra 5.5lbs at the battery location? To further the question, I know there was a PDF file posted from the finishing kit weight & balance info but I can't find it in the archives. Could someone steer me in the right direction? Thanks, Marcus 40286 QB wings & finishing kit shipping next week -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA) Subject: Re: RV10-List: Second Battery --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> I modified the battery tray to accept a pair of PC-680s (17 AH each) instead of the stock single 25 AH battery. Adds a few pounds total weight but I opted for extra redundancy that will partially offset the ballast that the factory carries. Bob -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> Subject: RV10-List: Second Battery I have searched the archives and not found an answer to the following questions. To those of you who are going to use a dual electrical system, where have you placed the second battery? What is the effect does the placement have on weight and balance. Thanks for you help Dick Gurley #40414


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    Time: 06:46:28 AM PST US
    From: Scott Lewis <rv10@tpg.com.au>
    Subject: Re: -10 Static Ports. Just my opinion
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Scott Lewis <rv10@tpg.com.au> G'day, JOHN STARN wrote: > Again I'm sorry for my assumption. So as not make another error, Scott > you did countersink the face of the port ? KABONG Short answer - Yes. Long answer - The Safeair1 ports have a series of dimples on their rear surface (see the Safeair1 website for pics). This allows the easy drilling of the port to suit 2, 3, 4 or 6 rivet spacing. I chose 3 as I figured it was aesthetically best with good attachment of the port to the skin. I then match-drilled the skin to the port (after Unibit-ing Van's pre-punched static hole to 1/4"), dimpled the skin and countersunk the holes on the ports until they sat flush to the skin. Rivets were easily squeezed. Have fun, Scott Lewis RV-10 40172 VH-DRS Adelaide, South Australia


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    Time: 07:27:36 AM PST US
    s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=oa93K8KVoQWPEhN5N2EfHFsIoG68Bo9Y4ULi1UCBatpqbLbz3rBLumRRa8h34MZ8g2+jR6SdZE4mUD0b3D1eZMEc356DS+WN5pPXvEWl4G24xk23iEJgWNuyQtq3Yqfr6nwPsCLvk6+ARYD0/F5/b821k6mI0ezb0NYhWnR/Y2Q= ;
    From: Brcue Patton <bpattonsoa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Toxic Solvents - Tank Sealant Quantity?
    Here is another reason to avoid excess chemicals. Early this year I was doing some refinish work on my glider with the usual automotive paints. I was using the same precautions I had always used when building the glider (painted with Delstar automotive paints) and the RV-6A (primed with self etching primer inside painted with Imron on the outside). These consisted spraying with a respirator for most of the automotive paint and a positive pressure mask for the Imron. Cleanup was usually done with acetone or the paint thinner. Some effort was made to protect my hands from exposure to the solvents. When spraying small quantities, I generally did not set up the positive pressure system, but had fans to ventilate the area. I probably have used 100 gallons of acetone in my workshop. About February I started having strange feelings in my feet. Was originally diagnosed as a ruptured disk and treated with rest and physical therapy. When this did nothing, they did the MRI which found nothing in the back. Further work came to the conclusion of nerve damage due to exposure to toxic solvents. So now I can't wear tight shoes, and have this feeling like my feet are asleep. According to the Dr's It may or may not go away, in another year or so. I am fortunate that the arms and hands were not impacted, would prevent me from doing a -10 when I retire. (I plan on minimal priming and using an Alodine pencil.) This is suppose to happen only with "chronic" exposure to solvents, except when it takes less. Just a warning. Bruce Patton Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick As a bonafide card carrying OSHA compliance officer I can give you several reasons to avoid BOTH of these chemicals.


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    Time: 08:14:27 AM PST US
    s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=dtWawahy0fBD0+bn9xwjMr+6jr7W9tlHZFgW1TxqP3jicxqX1oshHMBnAnHTOdWjb0llqF5RPpKh2W/lffOewFYAnYsrUlMlUJqtVZNPVnIzB9sSMuUvE/NGQvO9BvmZ1Cpa9LkltXx1v0Qfe4GacpVimYKykluB71F36vrw4tI= ;
    From: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: - Aileron bearing
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com> When assembling the aileron hinge bracket assemblies I'm looking at the inside of the bearing mount hole on W-1013A. I have deburred the edge of the hole. Do I need to LIGHTLY dress the inside of the hole surface before pressing the bearing in? I realize the hole still needs to be the correct size for a "press fit". Steve 40212


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    Time: 09:42:19 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
    Subject: Re: - Aileron bearing
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com> I made sure the edges of the parts were debured. (I am using rattle can self etching primer, as part of the get it ready to prime, I use 3M Scotchbright on a palm sander to scuff the part for a few seconds then prime). Following that operation I pressed the three parts together (with bearing in place). Clecoed and riveted accordingly. The result was a good fit with the three bracket parts closed at the bearing edge. You just don't want the outside bearing race to freely turn. It did take some force to press the three parts together (I used a vise with appropriate sized 3/8" sockets to localize the clamping force on the area around the outside perimeter of the bearing). Jim C N312F Reserved, Fuselage ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com> --> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com> When assembling the aileron hinge bracket assemblies I'm looking at the inside of the bearing mount hole on W-1013A. I have deburred the edge of the hole. Do I need to LIGHTLY dress the inside of the hole surface before pressing the bearing in? I realize the hole still needs to be the correct size for a "press fit". Steve 40212


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    Time: 11:35:26 AM PST US
    d="scan'208"; a="54150229:sNHT29825100"
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: New medical condition to report
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Ok. There's a new medical condition that has come to my attention only recently, directly ascribable to RV construction. It's called Buildis Interruptus, and it rears its ugly head whenever the builder first realizes that travel or deck building or some other obligation will put him/her in a position away from the project by more than a 24 hour period. Symptoms generally include: 1. reading saved RV-10 email more than twice; 2. searching the web for more RV-10 sites; 3. while traveling, reading the new tool and avionics catalogs cover to cover; 4. cursing that you didn't bring the build manual with you on the trip; 5. not talking to your significant other who demanded the (take your pick) deck, patio, addition, vacation, house painting, tree removal...; 6. making sounds as if you are the pneumatic squeezer and drill (but coming up with interesting staccato beats, nonetheless); 7. sketching out the storage stand yet to be built for your Empennage and Cone and Wings; 8. scheming how to put up your own builder's web site (you mean there's computer languages beyond Fortran, Cobol and Lisp?); 9. general malaise and inconsolable depression, and 10. obsessive whining and pleading to your significant other (thereby losing all future positions of negotiating strength) that you want to quit whatever it is you've been forced to do and get back to Baby. There is no known cure other than reconnection with the project. Once back at the project, however, there is a problem often suffered by those who have contracted Buildis Interruptus. It's called Cleco Oversqueezus. It occurs when the recovering Buildis Interruptus patient, deprived of the habit forming project drug, over indulges by staying at the build site for more than 15 hours straight, cutting, clecoing and deburring everything in sight. Happy 4th, all. John Jessen (3200 miles from my project, and 8 days away from getting back)


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    Time: 12:35:46 PM PST US
    Subject: New medical condition to report
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@mail.sprint.com> Funny post, but yet so true. I'm leaving for a two week vacation in a week and going to stop by Oshkosh on my way back. Right now I'm finding myself hoping the two weeks of vacation goes really fast so I can get to Oshkosh and back to my project. I don't think I can remember wishing a vacation would ever go fast before! Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
    [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Subject: RV10-List: New medical condition to report --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Ok. There's a new medical condition that has come to my attention only recently, directly ascribable to RV construction. It's called Buildis Interruptus, and it rears its ugly head whenever the builder first realizes that travel or deck building or some other obligation will put him/her in a position away from the project by more than a 24 hour period. Symptoms generally include: 1. reading saved RV-10 email more than twice; 2. searching the web for more RV-10 sites; 3. while traveling, reading the new tool and avionics catalogs cover to cover; 4. cursing that you didn't bring the build manual with you on the trip; 5. not talking to your significant other who demanded the (take your pick) deck, patio, addition, vacation, house painting, tree removal...; 6. making sounds as if you are the pneumatic squeezer and drill (but coming up with interesting staccato beats, nonetheless); 7. sketching out the storage stand yet to be built for your Empennage and Cone and Wings; 8. scheming how to put up your own builder's web site (you mean there's computer languages beyond Fortran, Cobol and Lisp?); 9. general malaise and inconsolable depression, and 10. obsessive whining and pleading to your significant other (thereby losing all future positions of negotiating strength) that you want to quit whatever it is you've been forced to do and get back to Baby. There is no known cure other than reconnection with the project. Once back at the project, however, there is a problem often suffered by those who have contracted Buildis Interruptus. It's called Cleco Oversqueezus. It occurs when the recovering Buildis Interruptus patient, deprived of the habit forming project drug, over indulges by staying at the build site for more than 15 hours straight, cutting, clecoing and deburring everything in sight. Happy 4th, all. John Jessen (3200 miles from my project, and 8 days away from getting back)


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    Time: 12:55:15 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: New medical condition to report
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> An additional tip to help with the withdrawal is an 8 1/2 x 11 copy of the builders manual make it easy to pack in your briefcase and read while your at the job that supports your habit. do not archive John Jessen wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> > >Ok. There's a new medical condition that has come to my attention only >recently, directly ascribable to RV construction. It's called Buildis >Interruptus, and it rears its ugly head whenever the builder first realizes >that travel or deck building or some other obligation will put him/her in a >position away from the project by more than a 24 hour period. Symptoms >generally include: 1. reading saved RV-10 email more than twice; 2. >searching the web for more RV-10 sites; 3. while traveling, reading the new >tool and avionics catalogs cover to cover; 4. cursing that you didn't bring >the build manual with you on the trip; 5. not talking to your significant >other who demanded the (take your pick) deck, patio, addition, vacation, >house painting, tree removal...; 6. making sounds as if you are the >pneumatic squeezer and drill (but coming up with interesting staccato beats, >nonetheless); 7. sketching out the storage stand yet to be built for your >Empennage and Cone and Wings; 8. scheming how to put up your own builder's >web site (you mean there's computer languages beyond Fortran, Cobol and >Lisp?); 9. general malaise and inconsolable depression, and 10. obsessive >whining and pleading to your significant other (thereby losing all future >positions of negotiating strength) that you want to quit whatever it is >you've been forced to do and get back to Baby. > >There is no known cure other than reconnection with the project. Once back >at the project, however, there is a problem often suffered by those who have >contracted Buildis Interruptus. It's called Cleco Oversqueezus. It occurs >when the recovering Buildis Interruptus patient, deprived of the habit >forming project drug, over indulges by staying at the build site for more >than 15 hours straight, cutting, clecoing and deburring everything in sight. > > >Happy 4th, all. > >John Jessen > (3200 miles from my project, and 8 days away from getting back) > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:25:49 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: SB wing kit and impending builder interuptus
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> I recently saw a post that mentioned someone had recently ordered their wings and was given a ship date of early Aug (8?) which is much sooner than the 14-15 weeks posted on their web site. I just got off the phone with Van's and was told that 14-15 weeks IS the current lead time for wing kits!. I'm making progress at a rate that's going to have me ready for my next kit in 6-7 weeks. I spoke with builder support about ordering the fuse kit which only has an 8 week lead time, but they informed me that the centersection spar is required for the fuse kit! and while you could make some progress without it, you'd obviously be limited at some point. Apparently, it is the wing spars that are causing the 14-15 week lead times. So: Anybody out there with a SB wing kit delivery position that wants to delay delivery that would be willing to trade 'positions'? or alternately: How much work (hours) can you complete on the SB Fuse without having the spar available? I'm averaging 35-40 hours per week, wondering if there's enough work to keep busy until the spars/wings are available? Deems Davis #406


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    Time: 02:26:39 PM PST US
    From: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: New medical condition to report
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net> Then a few years after you are flying your completed project, it will hit again and you will have to start another to satisfy the urge. Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R [NTK] Subject: RE: RV10-List: New medical condition to report --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" --> <Ray.R.Doerr@mail.sprint.com> Funny post, but yet so true. I'm leaving for a two week vacation in a week and going to stop by Oshkosh on my way back. Right now I'm finding myself hoping the two weeks of vacation goes really fast so I can get to Oshkosh and back to my project. I don't think I can remember wishing a vacation would ever go fast before! Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Subject: RV10-List: New medical condition to report --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Ok. There's a new medical condition that has come to my attention only recently, directly ascribable to RV construction. It's called Buildis Interruptus, and it rears its ugly head whenever the builder first realizes that travel or deck building or some other obligation will put him/her in a position away from the project by more than a 24 hour period. Symptoms generally include: 1. reading saved RV-10 email more than twice; 2. searching the web for more RV-10 sites; 3. while traveling, reading the new tool and avionics catalogs cover to cover; 4. cursing that you didn't bring the build manual with you on the trip; 5. not talking to your significant other who demanded the (take your pick) deck, patio, addition, vacation, house painting, tree removal...; 6. making sounds as if you are the pneumatic squeezer and drill (but coming up with interesting staccato beats, nonetheless); 7. sketching out the storage stand yet to be built for your Empennage and Cone and Wings; 8. scheming how to put up your own builder's web site (you mean there's computer languages beyond Fortran, Cobol and Lisp?); 9. general malaise and inconsolable depression, and 10. obsessive whining and pleading to your significant other (thereby losing all future positions of negotiating strength) that you want to quit whatever it is you've been forced to do and get back to Baby. There is no known cure other than reconnection with the project. Once back at the project, however, there is a problem often suffered by those who have contracted Buildis Interruptus. It's called Cleco Oversqueezus. It occurs when the recovering Buildis Interruptus patient, deprived of the habit forming project drug, over indulges by staying at the build site for more than 15 hours straight, cutting, clecoing and deburring everything in sight. Happy 4th, all. John Jessen (3200 miles from my project, and 8 days away from getting back)


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    Time: 03:06:58 PM PST US
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    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: New medical condition to report
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Now you tell me... -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: New medical condition to report --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> An additional tip to help with the withdrawal is an 8 1/2 x 11 copy of the builders manual make it easy to pack in your briefcase and read while your at the job that supports your habit. do not archive John Jessen wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> > >Ok. There's a new medical condition that has come to my attention only >recently, directly ascribable to RV construction. It's called Buildis >Interruptus, and it rears its ugly head whenever the builder first >realizes that travel or deck building or some other obligation will put >him/her in a position away from the project by more than a 24 hour >period. Symptoms generally include: 1. reading saved RV-10 email more than twice; 2. >searching the web for more RV-10 sites; 3. while traveling, reading the >new tool and avionics catalogs cover to cover; 4. cursing that you >didn't bring the build manual with you on the trip; 5. not talking to >your significant other who demanded the (take your pick) deck, patio, >addition, vacation, house painting, tree removal...; 6. making sounds >as if you are the pneumatic squeezer and drill (but coming up with >interesting staccato beats, nonetheless); 7. sketching out the storage >stand yet to be built for your Empennage and Cone and Wings; 8. >scheming how to put up your own builder's web site (you mean there's >computer languages beyond Fortran, Cobol and Lisp?); 9. general malaise >and inconsolable depression, and 10. obsessive whining and pleading to >your significant other (thereby losing all future positions of >negotiating strength) that you want to quit whatever it is you've been forced to do and get back to Baby. > >There is no known cure other than reconnection with the project. Once >back at the project, however, there is a problem often suffered by >those who have contracted Buildis Interruptus. It's called Cleco >Oversqueezus. It occurs when the recovering Buildis Interruptus >patient, deprived of the habit forming project drug, over indulges by >staying at the build site for more than 15 hours straight, cutting, clecoing and deburring everything in sight. > > >Happy 4th, all. > >John Jessen > (3200 miles from my project, and 8 days away from getting back) > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:32:53 PM PST US
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    From: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
    Subject: Re: SB wing kit and impending builder interuptus
    --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net> Deems Davis, That was me. I called Van's, was told 15 weeks so I put my deposit down (2 weeks or so ago), and got a letter saying my scheduled ship date is August 8th. Put your deposit on the wing kit and see what date is on the letter. I rushed to put a deposit on it since the lead time I was told was 15 weeks. Let me know what your scheduled date is, and if I'm not yet ready when the time comes maybe we can swap kits. -Jim 40384, Starting Elevators. Deems Davis wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> > > I recently saw a post that mentioned someone had recently ordered > their wings and was given a ship date of early Aug (8?) which is much > sooner than the 14-15 weeks posted on their web site. I just got off > the phone with Van's and was told that 14-15 weeks IS the current lead > time for wing kits!. I'm making progress at a rate that's going to > have me ready for my next kit in 6-7 weeks. I spoke with builder > support about ordering the fuse kit which only has an 8 week lead > time, but they informed me that the centersection spar is required for > the fuse kit! and while you could make some progress without it, you'd > obviously be limited at some point. Apparently, it is the wing spars > that are causing the 14-15 week lead times. > > So: > Anybody out there with a SB wing kit delivery position that wants to > delay delivery that would be willing to trade 'positions'? or > alternately: > > How much work (hours) can you complete on the SB Fuse without having > the spar available? I'm averaging 35-40 hours per week, wondering if > there's enough work to keep busy until the spars/wings are available? > > Deems Davis > > #406 > >


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    Time: 04:15:53 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: -10 Static Ports. Just my opinion
    Attached is how my Safe Air Static port fits. The port does stick out from the skin. Not much, but at least as much as paint. (still need to dimple, counter sink and rivit, I wish I did it when I was putting together the tail cone) Larry Rosen #356 LarryRosen@comcast.net wrote: > I have not yet installed my Safe Air vents, but I did a test fit and > the port does stick out past the skin. It sticks out at least as far > as paint would. I will make a measurement when I get back to the shop > in a couple of days. > > Larry Rosen > #356 >


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    Time: 04:21:43 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: SB wing kit and impending builder interuptus
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> I ordered my QB wings and fuselage back in March and was promised a August ship date. They were ready 2 weeks ago. So, don't be suprised if the wings are ready early. If anyone is planning on ordering, I would suggest you do it before Oshkosh. There will be a surge of orders during the show. James Hein wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net> > > Deems Davis, > That was me. > I called Van's, was told 15 weeks so I put my deposit down (2 weeks > or so ago), and got a letter saying my scheduled ship date is August 8th. > > Put your deposit on the wing kit and see what date is on the > letter. I rushed to put a deposit on it since the lead time I was told > was 15 weeks. > > Let me know what your scheduled date is, and if I'm not yet ready > when the time comes maybe we can swap kits. > > -Jim 40384, Starting Elevators. > > Deems Davis wrote: > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> >> >> I recently saw a post that mentioned someone had recently ordered >> their wings and was given a ship date of early Aug (8?) which is >> much sooner than the 14-15 weeks posted on their web site. I just got >> off the phone with Van's and was told that 14-15 weeks IS the current >> lead time for wing kits!. I'm making progress at a rate that's going >> to have me ready for my next kit in 6-7 weeks. I spoke with builder >> support about ordering the fuse kit which only has an 8 week lead >> time, but they informed me that the centersection spar is required >> for the fuse kit! and while you could make some progress without it, >> you'd obviously be limited at some point. Apparently, it is the wing >> spars that are causing the 14-15 week lead times. >> >> So: >> Anybody out there with a SB wing kit delivery position that wants to >> delay delivery that would be willing to trade 'positions'? or >> alternately: >> >> How much work (hours) can you complete on the SB Fuse without having >> the spar available? I'm averaging 35-40 hours per week, wondering if >> there's enough work to keep busy until the spars/wings are available? >> >> Deems Davis >> >> #406 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 06:01:40 PM PST US
    From: "Sandra & Rick Lark" <jrlark@bmts.com>
    Subject: Bendix Magneto's
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Sandra & Rick Lark" <jrlark@bmts.com> Hi all: This was posted to the Cardinal Flyers Online (CFO)digest a couple of days ago. I don't know if it's applicable to anyone but certainly looks like it includes Lycoming 540's. Regards, Rick


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    Time: 08:12:28 PM PST US
    s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=AYqiD/M+Ee68zhTA5wKJDOFqCY/b4pmxhOLFZbksztn8Iayti8DBCkAFXCDkai4GniYWgZ0UkksrvIH+K215+wIjUAGAoVq0IeQCoLRFa84QfFw/gwoUuIpnlNBeUdEpluoMLZePIhQAXuRB4UZSZmhdwQQT84lRfFMyxYA9PNk= ;
    From: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Tip for storing bottom wing skins
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com> Hi, If you are working on the SB wing kit and have finished riveting the top skin, you can store the bottom skins on the top skin side by clecoing them to the gap seal holes. (This assumes you are storing the wings vert.) The rivet holes are not all aligned but at least 3 to 4 should be - plenty to hold the skin. Eric


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    Time: 08:32:25 PM PST US
    From: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
    Subject: Weld-On 10 Gouge
    I had so much fun glueing the windows on that I thought I'd pass some gouge along. Weld-On 10 gives you more time to work with than I thought. I spent about 4 minutes per window to smear it on and all were fine. The jar says pot life is about 30 minutes. It is runny as others have said. However, a thin film builds quickly and that stops the runniness soon after you apply it. I used the popcycle sticks that they give you to apply. The rear windows being vertical were harder to prevent the glue from running. Once I put it on the flange of the cabin top I held the stick there at the bottom momentarily to stop the flow then continue. You can go over the glue once after the initial application. After that it bunches up and gets ugly. I used about 60% of a jar for each window. Too bad they don't make smaller jars. Anh #141


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    Time: 10:44:49 PM PST US
    From: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
    Subject: Re: Weld-On 10 Gouge
    I should add some clarification and retract something to my post. 3-4 minutes to apply the glue was probably a bit too long. I didn't time myself but it was probably half that. It is best to work as quickly as you can. The important thing is that fresh glue is needed to chemically dissolve the plexi to make a good bond. I don't want to give the impression that you have 30minutes of pot life to work with. Anh #141


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    Time: 10:56:26 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: New Toy - Chelton Screenshots
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Well, I finally found the perfect Levitra/viagara substitute for pilots.....yesterday I went and picked up one of my 3 Chelton screens!! http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/panel/20050702/index.html I got it powered up by a 2.75A 12V Radio Shack supply, and today I interfaced it with a keyboard. I was able to boot it up, and even update the operating software to version 5.0C from 5.0B. The Terrain now looks far better than before. For those who remember the blacks and browns of the terrain, they're now much more vivid and pretty. I took some awful crappy pictures while I was playing with it tonight so you could see some of the screens. It's even better than the training DVD and demo video shows. Also, after playing with it, I can see that my primary Nav/Com is going to be my SL-30, not the GNS-480.....let me tell you that this thing is SLICK! That GNS-480's looking mighty weak compared to this thing. Also (and please don't be offended or take it personally if you bought GRT stuff), I was able to hold in my hands, side by side, a Chelton and GRT screen. Let me say that there is really no comparison. The manufacturing quality is much better on the Chelton, and you can tell they take better care during assembly. The screen is much nicer looking, especially the lighted and labeled buttons. The Chelton weighs a little more, but you can tell you're getting some substantial power there. I think it uses a 650Mhz or so Celeron processor. When you power them on, the graphics are also no comparison. That Chelton blows the doors of the GRT. I'm extremely glad I went this way, and if I should have my snip job fail, I'll name my next kid Stein, in thanks for his taking the time to educate me as to the benefits of this beautiful system. Some of the stuff from Stark is a little delayed in coming in so far, but we're still planning to have my panel on display at OSH at booth 2030 in Hanger B (SteinAir's Booth). My engine will also be at Aerosport....look for the Gold and Chrome IO-540. I also took a minute to take some photos of something else I think I forgot to post a long time ago. If you remember back in about October there was a hand carved RV-10 model on Ebay that took what seemed like forever to sell. Turns out my dad bought it back then, and gave it to me for my birthday later last year. It was a great surprise. I'm going to try to talk to the guy who made it and see if he'll repaint it with my paint scheme, now that I have it picked out. Here are some photos of that: http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/misc/index.html Also, I added some additional photos of my fuel lines, and some of that junk in the fuselage section. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/fuselage/20050702/index.html Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Fuselage




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