RV10-List Digest Archive

Thu 07/07/05


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:33 AM - Aileron deflection (Rick)
     2. 06:35 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Nose rivets (Rick)
     3. 07:00 AM - Re: Elevator Trim Tabs (Darton Steve)
     4. 09:25 AM - FW: [RV10] Aileron Control Clearances (John Erickson)
     5. 09:34 AM - Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out (Tim Olson)
     6. 09:52 AM - Re: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out (brian bollaert)
     7. 10:11 AM - mt prop  (brian bollaert)
     8. 11:03 AM - Re: FW: [RV10] Aileron Control Clearances (Rick)
     9. 11:06 AM - Door Bonding Photos/Info and More (Tim Olson)
    10. 11:22 AM - Re: Door Bonding Photos/Info and More (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    11. 11:38 AM - Re: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    12. 01:26 PM - Re: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out (Tim Olson)
    13. 01:29 PM - Re: Door Bonding Photos/Info and More (Tim Olson)
    14. 03:28 PM - Re: mt prop  (Mike Kraus)
    15. 04:21 PM - Re: Elevator Trim Tabs (Jack Sparling)
    16. 04:28 PM - Re: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out (brian bollaert)
    17. 08:05 PM - Fuel tank leak test (John Hasbrouck)
    18. 08:23 PM - Re: Fuel tank leak test (Tim Olson)
    19. 09:02 PM - Re: Fuel tank leak test (John Kirkland)
    20. 09:58 PM - Re: Fuel tank leak test (Rick)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:33:37 AM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Aileron deflection
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> Hi All, I know I've seen this but I think it was back on Yahoo because I could not find it in this list. When the aileron deflects down, what is the maximum degree of travel? And those who have past this most likely know why I'm asking I'm sure. The alieron pushrod will hit the hinge bracket at some point close to full down throw. Without both wings control systems tied into each other (I assume the stop for the opposite alieron in the "up" position works as the stop for the opposite in down) there is nothing limiting the throw short of the pushrod hitting the bracket. I just want to check the amount of throw to make sure hitting the bracket is not an issue before I close up the bottom skins. Rick S. 40185 Wings


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    Time: 06:35:16 AM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Tank Nose rivets
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> Ron, Not dumb....good tip, I happened to notice the same thing but failed to test my flutes as you did :D Rick S. 40185 Wings Do not archive


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    Time: 07:00:16 AM PST US
    s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=uLXZOWlt9GZHl9TgLR8Ao1NSTmilXFMCohyxPy4fbieZWZQWK8qiX2+xd/swjHr97WosSAtdROasUkmmWG6G6XjXyyZvuHFkMWqbDUVM4Yhm6JbkA5fM1v/Rj1SNpIN3+VLd/1gflWmAYF8MlzY3po2P/AvvNwdnjjWDU1Ie3Vg= ;
    From: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Elevator Trim Tabs
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com> Jack, I had the same issues when working on my trim tabs. I just happened to be traveling to Portland at that time so I stopped in at Van's to see how N410RV's tabs operated for my self. This is what I learned. The right tab is the one to set the up/down deflection parameters. Set the left tab so it is at neutral when the right tab is neutral. The left tab will approximately follow the right through the down travel. Don't worry about full travel for the left tab. Essentially what I was told at Van's is that all the other RV's have only one tab. The RV-10 is nose heavy so the trim system was designed to give more nose up only. Both tabs provide nose up, right tab provides nose up and down. Steve wings 40212 --- Jack Sparling <jhs_61@yahoo.com> wrote: > Greetings to everyone: > > > > I have been struggling with the electric trim cable > adjustments and cannot > seem to get them to come out right. If I am reading > this correctly, the > manual indicates that the trim motor should be ran > to the full nose up > position and the cables should be adjusted to > achieve a 35 degree angle > measuring from the top of the trim tab to the top of > the elevator. When > adjusted in this manner, the left trim tab will not > come to a full neutral > position. Even when the motor is ran to the full > nose down position, the > trailing edge of the trim tab is still 3/8ths of an > inch lower than the > trailing edge of the elevator. Has anyone > experienced a problem like this? > > > > I know that I have been a quiet participant on this > list, however, I have > learned a great deal from all of you and appreciate > your views and > enthusiasm. We are on a wonderful journey, one that > few people have an > opportunity to explore. I have learned how > exceptional we all can be when > we have opportunity to create and develop the dream. > I have a great deal of > respect for what we have all decided to do together. > We represent 1/1000 of > the population, a pretty unique crowd. While I > don't know you personally, I > admire your choices and interest. > > > > Hope to see you all at OSH. > > > > Jack > >


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    Time: 09:25:14 AM PST US
    Subject: FW: [RV10] Aileron Control Clearances
    From: "John Erickson" <Droopy@ericksonjc.com>
    0.01 URI_REDIRECTOR Message has HTTP redirector URI Rick, I think this was the thread from Yahoo you were asking about... John #40208 Wings ________________________________ From: Randy DeBauw [mailto:randy@abros.com] Subject: RE: [RV10] Aileron Control Clearances Doug, the flap in the full up position is suppose to be nag. 3 deg.. Is that part of the problem or is it more of the aileron rod lengths. Randy -----Original Message----- From: Doug Peterson [mailto:rvator@cox.net] Subject: RE: [RV10] Aileron Control Clearances Randy is correct, due to design where one aileron rises more then it falls with movement, it does allow the tube to clear the hinge brace, but you really don't know this until both wings are installed and all controls are installed. I tested mine this weekend and the tube clears fine. But I do have an alignment problem with the wing tip TE to aileron TE to flap TE to fuselage that im going to scratch my head on for awhile. Doug _____ From: Randy DeBauw [mailto:randy@abros.com] Subject: RE: [RV10] Aileron Control Clearances Bob I ran into the same thing but after enlarging the hole some I stopped. I think what will happen will be that when the ailerons are connected together the opposite side will hit the stop before the rod will hit. At least that is what I am thinking. I won't know until both wings are installed and connected. Randy -----Original Message----- From: Bob Condrey [mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com] Subject: [RV10] Aileron Control Clearances When I was replacing washers in the aileron mount brackets (page 11 in last RVator) I noticed a potential clearance issue. When the ailerons are deflected down, the control tube comes extremely close to the some of the rivet heads on the inboard aileron bracket and the outboard edge of the spar hole. I talked to Van's yesterday AM and they suggested that I enlarge the hole slightly. 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    Time: 09:34:31 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I just got my Gretz Aero heated pitot this week. Being on his waiting list, last week I finally got the announcement that the pitot would be available, first only to people on the waiting list, then to the rest. I placed my order within a couple of hours of his email, so I'm probably the first person to actually get one in-hand. I shot some photos for you all and posted them here: http://www.myrv10.com/tips/pitot My first impression is that it's not quite as pretty as a nice shiny chrome pitot (which I expected) but, if it functions the way it was said to be designed to function, I think it will be fantastic. I added a very brief writeup on that link as well. If you want more specific photos or info, just let me know. I don't know when it will be available, or at what final cost, if you were not on his waiting list already. Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Cabin Doors DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:52:14 AM PST US
    From: "brian bollaert" <bbollaert@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "brian bollaert" <bbollaert@comcast.net> Hi Tim: I recieved my pitot from Warren early in the week also, chrome would be nice but hey !! gives that warbird look , anyway have you tried to mate it with the mounting bracket yet i had to grind at least 50% of the metal down just to make it fit !!, anyway looks pretty good and the price is right to , i mounted the electronic control module in the last bay of the wing tip on the outer spar , worked well with the lenth of wires thatcame with it since you can' t lengthen them . I am also working on the glass top (what a drag!!!) Brian Bollaert 40200 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> Subject: RV10-List: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > > I just got my Gretz Aero heated pitot this week. Being on his > waiting list, last week I finally got the announcement that the > pitot would be available, first only to people on the waiting > list, then to the rest. I placed my order within a couple > of hours of his email, so I'm probably the first person to > actually get one in-hand. I shot some photos for you all > and posted them here: > > http://www.myrv10.com/tips/pitot > > My first impression is that it's not quite as pretty as a nice > shiny chrome pitot (which I expected) but, if it functions > the way it was said to be designed to function, I think it > will be fantastic. I added a very brief writeup on that link > as well. If you want more specific photos or info, just > let me know. I don't know when it will be available, or at > what final cost, if you were not on his waiting list already. > > Tim > > -- > > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 > Current project: Cabin Doors > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 10:11:58 AM PST US
    From: "brian bollaert" <bbollaert@comcast.net>
    Subject: mt prop
    ? to the group : Is anyone buying the mt prop ? has anyone installed it yet ? How does it work perform ?, i am now deciding to put the money down on a prop , finish & engine forward kit coming in sept 05 also Aerosport io 540 in sept .Also not shure about the group buy that i have seen mail on , i know that vans sells therm also however you have to pick them up at a assembly center & would probably be extra $ not shure how much. Brian Bollaert 40200


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    Time: 11:03:48 AM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: FW: [RV10] Aileron Control Clearances
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    Time: 11:06:11 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Door Bonding Photos/Info and More
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I just updated my site and added the latest work.... Door Trimming, Cabin Top interior prep, Headliner, Cabin top interior paint, Autopilot Pitch Servo, and Door Bonding. I took the time to write up a bit of good info on a couple of points, so it might be worth reading if you're getting near that stage. I got REAL lucky last night on my first door, and mixed up just the right amount of epoxy almost to the drop. On the 2nd door, I added one more pump just to be safe. Total is about 20 pumps per door. Total quantity is about 80-85% of a full can of 105A/206A West System Epoxy, plus maybe about 1/2 to 2/3 of a can of colloidal Silica #406. I tried to detail a bunch of stuff on this page so that it's there for reference for others. Also, I'm glad I went with 206A hardner. 205A might have worked, but this allowed a leisurly but quick job. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/fuselage/20050706/index.html Enjoy! (and as always, if you have more to add, just send it on over) Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Fuselage


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    Time: 11:22:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Door Bonding Photos/Info and More
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Nice doggy! Can you get her to hold a piece of sandpaper? TDT do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: Door Bonding Photos/Info and More --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I just updated my site and added the latest work.... Door Trimming, Cabin Top interior prep, Headliner, Cabin top interior paint, Autopilot Pitch Servo, and Door Bonding. I took the time to write up a bit of good info on a couple of points, so it might be worth reading if you're getting near that stage. I got REAL lucky last night on my first door, and mixed up just the right amount of epoxy almost to the drop. On the 2nd door, I added one more pump just to be safe. Total is about 20 pumps per door. Total quantity is about 80-85% of a full can of 105A/206A West System Epoxy, plus maybe about 1/2 to 2/3 of a can of colloidal Silica #406. I tried to detail a bunch of stuff on this page so that it's there for reference for others. Also, I'm glad I went with 206A hardner. 205A might have worked, but this allowed a leisurly but quick job. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/fuselage/20050706/index.html Enjoy! (and as always, if you have more to add, just send it on over) Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Fuselage


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    Time: 11:38:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    If it's internally regulated to 100 degrees, you should be able to paint it to match without a problem. I think it's safe to say that most auto paints can take 100 without a problem and if it's internally regulated, the paint shouldn't make a difference. Michael Sausen -10 #352 Tailcone ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I just got my Gretz Aero heated pitot this week. Being on his waiting list, last week I finally got the announcement that the pitot would be available, first only to people on the waiting list, then to the rest. I placed my order within a couple of hours of his email, so I'm probably the first person to actually get one in-hand. I shot some photos for you all and posted them here: http://www.myrv10.com/tips/pitot My first impression is that it's not quite as pretty as a nice shiny chrome pitot (which I expected) but, if it functions the way it was said to be designed to function, I think it will be fantastic. I added a very brief writeup on that link as well. If you want more specific photos or info, just let me know. I don't know when it will be available, or at what final cost, if you were not on his waiting list already. Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Cabin Doors DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 01:26:33 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Hey Brian, I havent' tried to mate it with the bracket yet. Wouldn't it be easier to grind down the plastic on the pitot? I can't remember which way the directions said to do it. I'm going to wait until I get back to the 100% completion of the wings, and then wrap it all up at once. Hopefully that won't be too much later than OSH. I'll have to see how much wire they gave. I'm assuming you mean you mounted the control unit on the outer rib, right? I'm glad the thing came with an LED indicator. I was planning to add a "pitot on" indicator anyway, but this will even be better. Well, keep working on that top, I want a few more people to go before me so I can learn from them. ;) Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 brian bollaert wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "brian bollaert" <bbollaert@comcast.net> > > Hi Tim: > > I recieved my pitot from Warren early in the week also, chrome would be nice > but hey !! gives that warbird look , anyway have you tried to mate it with > the mounting bracket yet i had to grind at least 50% of the metal down just > to make it fit !!, anyway looks pretty good and the price is right to , i > mounted the electronic control module in the last bay of the wing tip on the > outer spar , worked well with the lenth of wires thatcame with it since you > can' t lengthen them . I am also working on the glass top (what a drag!!!) > > > Brian Bollaert > 40200 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> > To: "RV10" <RV10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:34 AM > Subject: RV10-List: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out > > > >>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> >> >> >>I just got my Gretz Aero heated pitot this week. Being on his >>waiting list, last week I finally got the announcement that the >>pitot would be available, first only to people on the waiting >>list, then to the rest. I placed my order within a couple >>of hours of his email, so I'm probably the first person to >>actually get one in-hand. I shot some photos for you all >>and posted them here: >> >>http://www.myrv10.com/tips/pitot >> >>My first impression is that it's not quite as pretty as a nice >>shiny chrome pitot (which I expected) but, if it functions >>the way it was said to be designed to function, I think it >>will be fantastic. I added a very brief writeup on that link >>as well. If you want more specific photos or info, just >>let me know. I don't know when it will be available, or at >>what final cost, if you were not on his waiting list already. >> >>Tim >> >>-- >> >>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 >>Current project: Cabin Doors >> >>DO NOT ARCHIVE >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 01:29:49 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Door Bonding Photos/Info and More
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Hey, that's my wife you're talking about! (Just kidding, I know you meant the mutt. ;> ) It's a He, but he's basically worthless. I tried manufacturing a pair of thumbs for him out of fiberglass, but he still can't use a cleco pliers worth a damn. Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Fuselage DO NOT ARCHIVE Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: > Nice doggy! Can you get her to hold a piece of sandpaper? > > TDT > > do not archive > > > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson > Sent: Thu 7/7/2005 2:05 PM > To: RV10 > Subject: RV10-List: Door Bonding Photos/Info and More > > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > I just updated my site and added the latest work.... > Door Trimming, Cabin Top interior prep, Headliner, Cabin top interior > paint, Autopilot Pitch Servo, and Door Bonding. > > I took the time to write up a bit of good info on a couple > of points, so it might be worth reading if you're getting > near that stage. I got REAL lucky last night on my first > door, and mixed up just the right amount of epoxy almost to the > drop. On the 2nd door, I added one more pump just to be safe. > Total is about 20 pumps per door. Total quantity is about 80-85% > of a full can of 105A/206A West System Epoxy, plus maybe about > 1/2 to 2/3 of a can of colloidal Silica #406. I tried to detail > a bunch of stuff on this page so that it's there for reference > for others. Also, I'm glad I went with 206A hardner. 205A might > have worked, but this allowed a leisurly but quick job. > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/fuselage/20050706/index.html > > Enjoy! (and as always, if you have more to add, just send it on over) > > Tim > > > -- > > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 > Current project: Fuselage > > > > > ==================================== > ==================================== > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:28:43 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    Subject: mt prop
    My buddy just put on a MT 3 blade prop on his Harmon Rocket (he had a 2 blade Hartzell). He said it now runs as smooth as an electric motor! He said it was very noticeably smoother and quieter. It is also about 45lbs lighter as I understand which is nice as the -10 is nose heavy (or should I say flies better with weight in the back). We are building 2 RV-10's in my hanger and they will both have the MT props..... -Mike Kraus RV-4 - Flying RV-10 - Wings and fuse.... -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of brian bollaert Subject: RV10-List: mt prop ? to the group : Is anyone buying the mt prop ? has anyone installed it yet ? How does it work perform ?, i am now deciding to put the money down on a prop , finish & engine forward kit coming in sept 05 also Aerosport io 540 in sept .Also not shure about the group buy that i have seen mail on a assembly center & would probably be extra $ not shure how much. Brian Bollaert 40200


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    Time: 04:21:06 PM PST US
    s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=QL9BJpzilyqGz+nFswoo9mbMNaCyjU6wIk6PQ7dkwSMt5LJt2cd1RXIzg1NhBqLGEwWj1uTvvyeNUiuswTecOknpM1ljsg20EaOGcSkqIECNnR30C9gkC6Cpr70CDCE3csZPCN8HUdaeMSnHPhXRqY5WJVfwSi9ufZZw1m4ZuZw= ;
    From: "Jack Sparling" <jhs_61@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Elevator Trim Tabs
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jack Sparling" <jhs_61@yahoo.com> Thanks for the help, I appreciate the responses. All the best, Jack -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darton Steve Subject: Re: RV10-List: Elevator Trim Tabs --> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com> Jack, I had the same issues when working on my trim tabs. I just happened to be traveling to Portland at that time so I stopped in at Van's to see how N410RV's tabs operated for my self. This is what I learned. The right tab is the one to set the up/down deflection parameters. Set the left tab so it is at neutral when the right tab is neutral. The left tab will approximately follow the right through the down travel. Don't worry about full travel for the left tab. Essentially what I was told at Van's is that all the other RV's have only one tab. The RV-10 is nose heavy so the trim system was designed to give more nose up only. Both tabs provide nose up, right tab provides nose up and down. Steve wings 40212 --- Jack Sparling <jhs_61@yahoo.com> wrote: > Greetings to everyone: > > > > I have been struggling with the electric trim cable > adjustments and cannot > seem to get them to come out right. If I am reading > this correctly, the > manual indicates that the trim motor should be ran > to the full nose up > position and the cables should be adjusted to > achieve a 35 degree angle > measuring from the top of the trim tab to the top of > the elevator. When > adjusted in this manner, the left trim tab will not > come to a full neutral > position. Even when the motor is ran to the full > nose down position, the > trailing edge of the trim tab is still 3/8ths of an > inch lower than the > trailing edge of the elevator. Has anyone > experienced a problem like this? > > > > I know that I have been a quiet participant on this > list, however, I have > learned a great deal from all of you and appreciate > your views and > enthusiasm. We are on a wonderful journey, one that > few people have an > opportunity to explore. I have learned how > exceptional we all can be when > we have opportunity to create and develop the dream. > I have a great deal of > respect for what we have all decided to do together. > We represent 1/1000 of > the population, a pretty unique crowd. While I > don't know you personally, I > admire your choices and interest. > > > > Hope to see you all at OSH. > > > > Jack > >


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    Time: 04:28:11 PM PST US
    From: "brian bollaert" <bbollaert@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "brian bollaert" <bbollaert@comcast.net> Well Tim we seem to be around the same steps pretty much!, Well i thought about grinding the plastic on the pitot however i was to paranoid to grind that baby !yes i did mean the last rib inside mounted on the spar , the directions say not to cut or add to the wires on the pitot so this looked like a good spot , also easy to get to with the tip off . Thanks again for all the work on the pics etc on your site !! this site really is the RV-10 UNIVERSITY Brian Bollaert 40200 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hey Brian, I havent' tried to mate it with the bracket yet. Wouldn't > it be easier to grind down the plastic on the pitot? I can't > remember which way the directions said to do it. I'm going to wait > until I get back to the 100% completion of the wings, and then wrap > it all up at once. Hopefully that won't be too much later than OSH. > > I'll have to see how much wire they gave. I'm assuming you mean > you mounted the control unit on the outer rib, right? > I'm glad the thing came with an LED indicator. I was planning to > add a "pitot on" indicator anyway, but this will even be better. > > Well, keep working on that top, I want a few more people to go > before me so I can learn from them. ;) > Tim > > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 > > > brian bollaert wrote: > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "brian bollaert" <bbollaert@comcast.net> > > > > Hi Tim: > > > > I recieved my pitot from Warren early in the week also, chrome would be nice > > but hey !! gives that warbird look , anyway have you tried to mate it with > > the mounting bracket yet i had to grind at least 50% of the metal down just > > to make it fit !!, anyway looks pretty good and the price is right to , i > > mounted the electronic control module in the last bay of the wing tip on the > > outer spar , worked well with the lenth of wires thatcame with it since you > > can' t lengthen them . I am also working on the glass top (what a drag!!!) > > > > > > Brian Bollaert > > 40200 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > To: "RV10" <RV10-list@matronics.com> > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:34 AM > > Subject: RV10-List: Gretz GA-1000 Pitot now out > > > > > > > >>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > >> > >> > >>I just got my Gretz Aero heated pitot this week. Being on his > >>waiting list, last week I finally got the announcement that the > >>pitot would be available, first only to people on the waiting > >>list, then to the rest. I placed my order within a couple > >>of hours of his email, so I'm probably the first person to > >>actually get one in-hand. I shot some photos for you all > >>and posted them here: > >> > >>http://www.myrv10.com/tips/pitot > >> > >>My first impression is that it's not quite as pretty as a nice > >>shiny chrome pitot (which I expected) but, if it functions > >>the way it was said to be designed to function, I think it > >>will be fantastic. I added a very brief writeup on that link > >>as well. If you want more specific photos or info, just > >>let me know. I don't know when it will be available, or at > >>what final cost, if you were not on his waiting list already. > >> > >>Tim > >> > >>-- > >> > >>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 > >>Current project: Cabin Doors > >> > >>DO NOT ARCHIVE > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:05:05 PM PST US
    From: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
    Subject: Fuel tank leak test
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com> All, I've started the leak check on my left fuel tank using Van's kit and a water manometer. I have a very slow drop in the water level of the manometer and have sprayed the tank with soapy water but can't find the leak. The fuel cap is taped over, I did find a few bubbles from that at first but the leak persists. Any hints? Thought about imersing the tank in the bath tub while pressurized. Suggestions appreciated.... John Hasbrouck #40264


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    Time: 08:23:40 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel tank leak test
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Can you put a definition on "very slow"....if it's just a tiny leak, it could be the taped over fuel cap. I think it would be hard to get a perfect seal. Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 Current project: Fuselage John Hasbrouck wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com> > > All, > I've started the leak check on my left fuel tank using Van's kit and > a water manometer. I have a very slow drop in the water level of the > manometer and have sprayed the tank with soapy water but can't find the > leak. The fuel cap is taped over, I did find a few bubbles from that at > first but the leak persists. Any hints? Thought about imersing the > tank in the bath tub while pressurized. Suggestions appreciated.... > > John Hasbrouck > #40264 >


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    Time: 09:02:50 PM PST US
    From: "John Kirkland" <jskirkland@webpipe.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel tank leak test
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Kirkland" <jskirkland@webpipe.net> If you're already flying something else, or have lots of flying buddies around, jig it up real good so it doesn't tip over, block off vents and lines, and fill it with gas. Either auto or avgas. If it leaks, you'll know it. Using gas won't risk contamination by something that doesn't belong in it anyway, when done transfer the gas to vehicle(s) that need it. Or use the bathtub method and give the wife another test... John Kirkland #40333


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    Time: 09:58:27 PM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel tank leak test
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> John, Remove the tape from the cap and remove the cap. Clean the opeing and use a good quality vinyl packing tape to seal the opeing. Leave the cap off if you like, I did. Use fuel lube on all threaded fittings and make sure your not getting erroneous readings from temperture changes, yes it's the manometer is that sensative. I had the same indication you did, it turned out that the cap was leaking and a small leak from the threads where I installed the schrader valve. Fuel lube solved that, sealing the fuel opeing real well also contributed to sucess. I was helping another builder and his leak came from the schrader valve to tank fitting as well. It was a small drop on the manometer just like you describe, it made big bubbles so if you have a leak and it's small...you can still expect big bubbles to appear with the soapy water...don't digress just yet. An area to check is where the forward tank spar exits the tank on the inboard side. This area has a large void that must get prosealed pretty well from the inside. This is the piece that holds the bearing for the alieron pushrod motion transfer bar. I had a small leak at the intersection of the fore and aft ribs and that brace/spar. I found it with a flashlight inside the tank in a dark room prior to installing the rear baffle. Hope this helps. Rick S. 40185 Wings




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