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1. 04:28 AM - Re: I really really want to build an airplane..... (Ken Peck)
2. 08:47 AM - Riveting canopy to side skins (Tim Olson)
3. 09:17 AM - Re: Riveting canopy to side skins (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
4. 10:19 AM - Re: Riveting canopy to side skins (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
5. 11:40 AM - fly-in Breakfast Aug. 28th Please post. Falls City, NE (FNB) Currus Aircraft scheduled to attend (Schawang, Darrin)
6. 11:41 AM - RV-10 Rolling Height (Tim Olson)
7. 01:03 PM - Elevator fit problem (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 01:06 PM - Re: Oshkosh bound (Rob Hunter)
9. 01:36 PM - Re: Elevator fit problem (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
10. 01:36 PM - Re: Oshkosh bound (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
11. 02:09 PM - Re: Re: Elevator fit problem (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
12. 02:52 PM - Re: RV-10 Rolling Height (Brandon Yost)
13. 02:55 PM - Re: Oshkosh bound (Tim Olson)
14. 03:22 PM - Re: RV-10 Rolling Height (Tim Olson)
15. 03:44 PM - Re: Oshkosh bound (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
16. 06:17 PM - Snap Bushings for Throttle/Prop/Mixture (Tim Olson)
17. 06:44 PM - Re: Oshkosh bound (Rick)
18. 06:45 PM - Re: RV-10 Rolling Height (Rick)
19. 07:36 PM - Re: RV-10 Rolling Height (Tim Olson)
20. 07:52 PM - Re: RV-10 Rolling Height (Rick)
21. 09:58 PM - Re: VERY bad news today (DejaVu)
22. 10:04 PM - Re: Riveting canopy to side skins (DejaVu)
23. 10:21 PM - Re: VERY bad news today (DejaVu)
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| Subject: | Re: I really really want to build an airplane..... |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Ken Peck" <kenbpeck@comcast.net>
John,
GO FOR IT! I am. We have three boys 5,7 & 9. Figure it'll take me a
couple of years, by then they'll be 7, 9 & 11. Planning on the rear seat
being a bench w/ three harnesses, so my -10 will seat 5!
Tail being ordered today!
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: I really really want to build an airplane.....
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Hey John,
>
> You'll love the kit. I'm in a similar boat with kids 4 & 6. They
> may not help the project move quickly, but they'll make it fun to fly when
> you're done!
> Tim
>
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> John R. Lewis wrote:
>> Ohhh boy.... I thought I had the sickness bad before. I went to the EAA
>> airshow up in Arlington, WA yesterday. After seeing the Vans line of
>> experimental aircraft, my wife is totally on-board with the idea of
>> building our own aircraft. It is a certainty that this will happen,
>> probably in a couple of years. A few things in our lives need to be
>> finished first before we can take on a project like this.
>>
>> Premature RV-Grin http://aspzone.com/photos/john/picture1244.aspx
>>
>> Rivet bucking help? http://aspzone.com/photos/john/picture1245.aspx
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Riveting canopy to side skins |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I had some ok progress this weekend and ended up beginning the
permanent install of the cabin cover. The plans called for
CS4-4 "Typ" (Typical) for the rivets holding the top to
the side skins. I couldn't think of any reason you wouldn't
be able to use AN426AD4-6 rivets instead, other than possibly
worrying about cracking your fiberglass.
Did anyone else substitute the CS4-4's? What's your thinking?
I did end up using the AN426AD4-6's right below the windows
in the rear seats, but stopped after that. If there's any
structural problem, I figured I had better allow to at
least put CS4-4's on the back half of the canopy if necessary,
since just having those in that location should prevent
anything major.
But, it ain't too late to drill them and pop them either.
Tim
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| Subject: | Riveting canopy to side skins |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
From my understanding there are two reasons to use pop rivets, and
neither are structural. Supposedly they both have the same shear
strength. The two reasons are 1. you can not get to the back area to
buck and 2. you are worried about stress cracking the surface by setting
the rivet with a gun. So along these lines I would think the only issue
would be stress fractures in the fiberglass top, but this is pure
conjecture and I would fall back on the statement "Call Vans and ask why
they did it this way"
Just my .02, I am interested in the answer as I would like to use 426's
if possible.
Dan
40269 wings, wings, wings, will they ever end?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Riveting canopy to side skins
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I had some ok progress this weekend and ended up beginning the
permanent install of the cabin cover. The plans called for
CS4-4 "Typ" (Typical) for the rivets holding the top to
the side skins. I couldn't think of any reason you wouldn't
be able to use AN426AD4-6 rivets instead, other than possibly
worrying about cracking your fiberglass.
Did anyone else substitute the CS4-4's? What's your thinking?
I did end up using the AN426AD4-6's right below the windows
in the rear seats, but stopped after that. If there's any
structural problem, I figured I had better allow to at
least put CS4-4's on the back half of the canopy if necessary,
since just having those in that location should prevent
anything major.
But, it ain't too late to drill them and pop them either.
Tim
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| Subject: | Riveting canopy to side skins |
I would tend to agree with Dan on this. Fiberglass is a glass and, as with anything
that hard, can be cracked from vibration. One of the first things you
are told when building something from "glass" is that the epoxy in it is there
to do nothing but keep it from moving and to help hold the shape, almost all
of the structural strength is from the fiberglass.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly (slow build wings arrive today!)
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Riveting canopy to side skins
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
--> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
From my understanding there are two reasons to use pop rivets, and neither are
structural. Supposedly they both have the same shear strength. The two reasons
are 1. you can not get to the back area to buck and 2. you are worried about
stress cracking the surface by setting the rivet with a gun. So along these lines
I would think the only issue would be stress fractures in the fiberglass top,
but this is pure conjecture and I would fall back on the statement "Call Vans
and ask why they did it this way"
Just my .02, I am interested in the answer as I would like to use 426's if possible.
Dan
40269 wings, wings, wings, will they ever end?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Riveting canopy to side skins
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I had some ok progress this weekend and ended up beginning the permanent install
of the cabin cover. The plans called for
CS4-4 "Typ" (Typical) for the rivets holding the top to
the side skins. I couldn't think of any reason you wouldn't
be able to use AN426AD4-6 rivets instead, other than possibly worrying about cracking
your fiberglass.
Did anyone else substitute the CS4-4's? What's your thinking?
I did end up using the AN426AD4-6's right below the windows in the rear seats,
but stopped after that. If there's any structural problem, I figured I had better
allow to at least put CS4-4's on the back half of the canopy if necessary,
since just having those in that location should prevent anything major.
But, it ain't too late to drill them and pop them either.
Tim
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do not archive
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| Subject: | fly-in Breakfast Aug. 28th Please post. Falls City, NE (FNB) |
Currus Aircraft scheduled to attend
=20<<FlyinAugust28th FNB.jpg>> Attached is a flyer for a Fly-in Breakfast=20on
Aug. 28th at Falls City Nebraska (FNB) Brenner Field. The breakfast is provided
by and benefits the Falls City Volunteer Rural Firemen. The fly-in is held
in conjunction with the Cobblestone Festival. If you have any questions please
call. If you have an event please forward the information and I will make
sure that it is posted.
Last year we had 45 plus aircraft, and served over 350 people breakfast. =20This
year Cirrus is scheduled to have a airplane at our event.
> Thanks for your assistance in making
our event a success.
>
> Darrin Schawang
> (402) 245-4020
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| Subject: | RV-10 Rolling Height |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Rolling Height
Russ Daves was nice enough to send me the ground to belly height of the
RV-10 between the gear. This allowed me to calculate what the top of
the canopy height would be, once the gear was installed.....which I
needed because my garage door is only 78" tall at the door lip when open.
The bad news is that the RV-10 stands a full 80" tall on gear, empty,
with no engine mounted. But, there's also good news....
I was able to pop the door opener (pull the red rope) which allowed me
to hand-push the door up further on it's rails, causing the door to open
a little larger. I now have about 80.5" at the opening, and 79.5"
under one of the metal cross supports on the door. I am guessing that
by leaving some air out of the tires, adding some weight, perhaps adding
the engine, that maybe I'll get enough space back to get in and out
without major concerns. If necessary, I might be able to replace the
door with one that doesn't have the big reinforcement strip sticking
out....just temporarily, then toss the cheap door after the project is
done. My existing door isn't in great shape anyway.
This is now added to my tips page.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Elevator fit problem |
Ok guys, time for me to tap that vast knowledge out there as this one has me stumped.
I have started the emp assembly part and immediately ran into a problem.
My left elevator counterbalance arm has 0 clearance fore and almost an 1/8th
inch aft on the top. On the bottom I have 1/16th fore and an 1/8th aft.
My right elevator counterbalance arm has about 1/64th fore and 3/32nd aft on
the top. The bottom has 3/32nd fore and aft.
I also have some contact on the leading edge on the right elevator in full up
position. I have triple checked the rod end bearings and they are all at 7/8th
from the spar to the center of the bearing hole. I don't recall any fit problems
during HS or elevator construction. It's almost like the top, fore, edge
of the counterbalance arms have a slight canter in.
Suggestions?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly
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Hi!
I am new to the group and just received my tail. Afraid to start at the
moment. Thought I would wait until after OSH. I will be there the
23rd-29th.
Rob Hunter
40432
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
speckter@comcast.net
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Oshkosh bound
Tim and all
I am going to have my moterhome and could tow a car if we need it. We
could meet at the campground and have a prepared meal brough in from the
grocery store deli or something similar. If this is something the group
likes\, Tim and I could cordinate it and let you know details
Let me know the group's wishes
Gary
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
>
> Hey Bill, glad you're going. There's definitely going to be a lot
> of RV-10 people to meet.
>
> That list just keeps growing, and fast.
> I'm sitting here editing it, watching my inbox, and everytime I add
> and save it and upload it, another person emails. It's flowing
> in nice. I'll probably slow down my updating to a couple times
> a day over the weekend so I can get work done on the kit too, so if
> you email me it might take a short time.
>
> There's a lot of talk about having dinners, too. I put some notes
> about this on the list page, but... It might be hard to coordinate
> an off-site dinner with this varied a group. Some of us might not
> even have ca rs available, and the attendance days are pretty
> scattered. Also, at SNF we found that people had parked all over
> the place and we had to scatter to drive to the restaurant...and
> try to FIND the same restaurant. But if we did a lunch, or early
> dinner onsite after the show, I think we could get a good sized group.
> If anyone else can coordinate something better though, please jump
> in. Even though I'm from the state, I don't know OSH well enough
> to know which restaurant we could go to that wouldn't already be
> too packed for a group. That's why I'm thinking it might be
> easiest to get precooked food on-site.
>
> Comments?
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> > Tim, I don't know when anybody else will be there but I am going to
be
> > ther ;
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| Subject: | RE: Elevator fit problem |
0.03 HTML_TEXT_AFTER_HTML BODY": rv10-list@matronics.com
Hmm, had a bit of a duh moment there. Gave them both a little oomph and, wouldn't
you know it, gap was perfect. I really need to make sure I don't over think
things. ;-)
I do have one more little question that I forgot to include in the first post.
The elevator horns are a little off in alignment with both in trail. One looks
like it is a little lower and aft. Should I try to make sure they line up
before drilling them or should I just leave them a little off?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly (slow build wings arrived today!)
________________________________
| From: | RV Builder (Michael Sausen) |
Subject: Elevator fit problem
Ok guys, time for me to tap that vast knowledge out there as this one has me stumped.
I have started the emp assembly part and immediately ran into a problem.
My left elevator counterbalance arm has 0 clearance fore and almost an 1/8th
inch aft on the top. On the bottom I have 1/16th fore and an 1/8th aft.
My right elevator counterbalance arm has about 1/64th fore and 3/32nd aft on
the top. The bottom has 3/32nd fore and aft.
I also have some contact on the leading edge on the right elevator in full up
position. I have triple checked the rod end bearings and they are all at 7/8th
from the spar to the center of the bearing hole. I don't recall any fit problems
during HS or elevator construction. It's almost like the top, fore, edge
of the counterbalance arms have a slight canter in.
Suggestions?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly
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What's the concern? Overwhelming? Don't want to start and then leave it for
a week? If it's because this is your first experience I can *kinda* see waiting
until hitting some forums at OSH, but there is plenty to do before you make
the first cut. Inventory will probably take at least 5-10 hours depending on
how organized you are. ;-) Read through the plans and check the archives for
answers to any questions you may have. Can't find it there, toss it to the
group (just no questions on priming!). We are usually a pretty friendly group,
just look out for TDT, he's a bit twisted.
I strongly suggest you spend some time on Tim Olson's site @ www.myrv10.com as it has become THE source for -10 info. Also, make sure you get your name in the list for the -10 builders that will be at OSH, Tim can give you more info on that. Some of us ugly types even included a mugshot so we can recognize each other.
Bottom line, don't put starting off as there will be plenty of times over the
next couple thousand hours where you will probably have to take some time off
the project. Why should OSH be any different of a reason! Jump in, have fun,
and just build the plane!
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Hunter
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Oshkosh bound
Hi!
I am new to the group and just received my tail. Afraid to start at the moment.
Thought I would wait until after OSH. I will be there the 23rd-29th.
Rob Hunter
40432
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:11 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com; rv10-list@matronics.com
Cc: Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Oshkosh bound
=09
=09
Tim and all
I am going to have my moterhome and could tow a car if we need it. We
could meet at the campground and have a prepared meal brough in from the grocery
store deli or something similar. If this is something the group likes\, Tim
and I could cordinate it and let you know details
Let me know the group's wishes
Gary
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
>
> Hey Bill, glad you're going. There's definitely going to be a
lot
> of RV-10 people to meet.
>
> That list just keeps growing, and fast.
> I'm sitting here editing it, watching my inbox, and everytime
I add
> and save it and upload it, another person emails. It's flowing
> in nice. I'll probably slow down my updating to a couple times
> a day over the weekend so I can get work done on the kit too,
so if
> you email me it might take a short time.
>
> There's a lot of talk about having dinners, too. I put some notes
> about this on the list page, but... It might be hard to coordinate
> an off-site dinner with this varied a group. Some of us might
not
> even have ca rs available, and the attendance days are pretty
> scattered. Also, at SNF we found that people had parked all over
> the place and we had to scatter to drive to the restaurant...and
> try to FIND the same restaurant. But if we did a lunch, or early
> dinner onsite after the show, I think we could get a good sized
group.
> If anyone else can coordinate something better though, please
jump
> in. Even though I'm from the state, I don't know OSH well enough
> to know which restaurant we could go to that wouldn't already
be
> too packed for a group. That's why I'm thinking it might be
> easiest to get precooked food on-site.
>
> Comments?
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> > Tim, I don't know when anybody else will be there but I am
going to be
> > ther ;
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| Subject: | RE: Elevator fit problem |
Ok that's it, I need a beer. Just read ahead, this is also normal according to
11-3 Step 6. D'oh! I'll shut up now.
Michael
DO NOT ARCHIVE
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Subject: RV10-List: RE: Elevator fit problem
Hmm, had a bit of a duh moment there. Gave them both a little oomph and, wouldn't
you know it, gap was perfect. I really need to make sure I don't over think
things. ;-)
I do have one more little question that I forgot to include in the first post.
The elevator horns are a little off in alignment with both in trail. One looks
like it is a little lower and aft. Should I try to make sure they line up
before drilling them or should I just leave them a little off?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly (slow build wings arrived today!)
________________________________
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Subject: Elevator fit problem
Ok guys, time for me to tap that vast knowledge out there as this one has me stumped.
I have started the emp assembly part and immediately ran into a problem.
My left elevator counterbalance arm has 0 clearance fore and almost an 1/8th
inch aft on the top. On the bottom I have 1/16th fore and an 1/8th aft.
My right elevator counterbalance arm has about 1/64th fore and 3/32nd aft on
the top. The bottom has 3/32nd fore and aft.
I also have some contact on the leading edge on the right elevator in full up
position. I have triple checked the rod end bearings and they are all at 7/8th
from the spar to the center of the bearing hole. I don't recall any fit problems
during HS or elevator construction. It's almost like the top, fore, edge
of the counterbalance arms have a slight canter in.
Suggestions?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly
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| Subject: | RV-10 Rolling Height |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brandon Yost" <bryostdc@hotmail.com>
Tim-
Would it give you enough clearance if you just took the wheels/tires off and
strapped the plane's axles onto some low rolling dollies (using something
like a cheap U clamp to secure the axles)? I don't know, but it seems like
that might be easier than messing with your garage door.
Brandon
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh bound |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
To add something to Michael's post... If you start NOW perhaps you'll
begin to even start having an understanding as to what it is that
you might want to ask the other -10 builders while at OSH. If you wait
until after OSH, you won't get the face-to-face opportunity to even
know what kind of tips you'll need. I'd start out right away and see
how it goes.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> What's the concern? Overwhelming? Don't want to start and then leave
> it for a week? If it's because this is your first experience I can
> *kinda* see waiting until hitting some forums at OSH, but there is
> plenty to do before you make the first cut. Inventory will probably
> take at least 5-10 hours depending on how organized you are. ;-) Read
> through the plans and check the archives for answers to any questions
> you may have. Can't find it there, toss it to the group (just no
> questions on priming!). We are usually a pretty friendly group, just
> look out for TDT, he's a bit twisted.
>
> I strongly suggest you spend some time on Tim Olson's site @
> www.myrv10.com <http://www.myrv10.com> as it has become THE source for
> -10 info. Also, make sure you get your name in the list for the -10
> builders that will be at OSH, Tim can give you more info on that. Some
> of us ugly types even included a mugshot so we can recognize each other.
>
> Bottom line, don't put starting off as there will be plenty of times
> over the next couple thousand hours where you will probably have to take
> some time off the project. Why should OSH be any different of a
> reason! Jump in, have fun, and just build the plane!
>
> Michael Sausen
> -10 #352 Emp Assembly
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rob Hunter
> *Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2005 3:06 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Oshkosh bound
>
> Hi!
> I am new to the group and just received my tail. Afraid to start at the
> moment. Thought I would wait until after OSH. I will be there the
> 23rd-29th.
>
> Rob Hunter
> 40432
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *speckter@comcast.net
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:11 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com; rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Cc:* Tim Olson
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Oshkosh bound
>
>
> Tim and all
> I am going to have my moterhome and could tow a car if we need it.
> We could meet at the campground and have a prepared meal brough in
> from the grocery store deli or something similar. If this is
> something the group likes\, Tim and I could cordinate it and let you
> know details
> Let me know the group's wishes
> Gary
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
> >
> > Hey Bill, glad you're going. There's definitely going to be a
> lot
> > of RV-10 people to meet.
> >
> > That list just keeps growing, and fast.
> > I'm sitting here editing it, watching my inbox, and everytime
> I add
> > and save it and upload it, another person emails. It's flowing
> > in nice. I'll probably slow down my updating to a couple times
> > a day over the weekend so I can get work done on the kit too,
> so if
> > you email me it might take a short time.
> >
> > There's a lot of talk about having dinners, too. I put some
> notes
> > about this on the list page, but... It might be hard to
> coordinate
> > an off-site dinner with this varied a group. Some of us might
> not
> > even have ca rs available, and the attendance days are pretty
> > scattered. Also, at SNF we found that people had parked all over
> > the place and we had to scatter to drive to the restaurant...and
> > try to FIND the same restaurant. But if we did a lunch, or early
> > dinner onsite after the show, I think we could get a good
> sized group.
> > If anyone else can coordinate something better though, please
> jump
> > in. Even though I'm from the state, I don't know OSH well enough
> > to know which restaurant we could go to that wouldn't already be
> > too packed for a group. That's why I'm thinking it might be
> > easiest to get precooked food on-site.
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
> > Current project: Fuselage
> >
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
> > Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> > > Tim, I don't know when anybody else will be there but I am
> going to be
> > > ther ;
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oh absolutely.... That was my original plan....to a "T". The only
catch is that it wouldn't be quite as easy to roll. My driveway is
a very coars blacktop and pea gravel mix...so casters wouldn't be
too hot on that. My garage and door will *eventually* within about 3
years be demo'd and an addition rebuilt anyway, so I'd rather chainsaw
my house than make my poor RV-10 suffer. ;)
Tim
Brandon Yost wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brandon Yost" <bryostdc@hotmail.com>
>
> Tim-
>
> Would it give you enough clearance if you just took the wheels/tires off
> and strapped the plane's axles onto some low rolling dollies (using
> something like a cheap U clamp to secure the axles)? I don't know, but
> it seems like that might be easier than messing with your garage door.
>
> Brandon
>
> Do Not Archive
>
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"just look out for TDT, he's a bit twisted"
Zoinks!
TDT
40025
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Subject: RE: RV10-List: Oshkosh bound
What's the concern? Overwhelming? Don't want to start and then leave it for
a week? If it's because this is your first experience I can *kinda* see waiting
until hitting some forums at OSH, but there is plenty to do before you make
the first cut. Inventory will probably take at least 5-10 hours depending on
how organized you are. ;-) Read through the plans and check the archives for
answers to any questions you may have. Can't find it there, toss it to the
group (just no questions on priming!). We are usually a pretty friendly group,
just look out for TDT, he's a bit twisted.
I strongly suggest you spend some time on Tim Olson's site @ www.myrv10.com as it has become THE source for -10 info. Also, make sure you get your name in the list for the -10 builders that will be at OSH, Tim can give you more info on that. Some of us ugly types even included a mugshot so we can recognize each other.
Bottom line, don't put starting off as there will be plenty of times over the
next couple thousand hours where you will probably have to take some time off
the project. Why should OSH be any different of a reason! Jump in, have fun,
and just build the plane!
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Hunter
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Oshkosh bound
Hi!
I am new to the group and just received my tail. Afraid to start at the moment.
Thought I would wait until after OSH. I will be there the 23rd-29th.
Rob Hunter
40432
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of speckter@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:11 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com; rv10-list@matronics.com
Cc: Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Oshkosh bound
=09
=09
Tim and all
I am going to have my moterhome and could tow a car if we need it. We
could meet at the campground and have a prepared meal brough in from the grocery
store deli or something similar. If this is something the group likes\, Tim
and I could cordinate it and let you know details
Let me know the group's wishes
Gary
-------------- Original message --------------
=09
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
>
> Hey Bill, glad you're going. There's definitely going to be a
lot
> of RV-10 people to meet.
>
> That list just keeps growing, and fast.
> I'm sitting here editing it, watching my inbox, and everytime
I add
> and save it and upload it, another person emails. It's flowing
> in nice. I'll probably slow down my updating to a couple times
> a day over the weekend so I can get work done on the kit too,
so if
> you email me it might take a short time.
>
> There's a lot of talk about having dinners, too. I put some notes
> about this on the list page, but... It might be hard to coordinate
> an off-site dinner with this varied a group. Some of us might
not
> even have ca rs available, and the attendance days are pretty
> scattered. Also, at SNF we found that people had parked all over
> the place and we had to scatter to drive to the restaurant...and
> try to FIND the same restaurant. But if we did a lunch, or early
> dinner onsite after the show, I think we could get a good sized
group.
> If anyone else can coordinate something better though, please
jump
> in. Even though I'm from the state, I don't know OSH well enough
> to know which restaurant we could go to that wouldn't already
be
> too packed for a group. That's why I'm thinking it might be
> easiest to get precooked food on-site.
>
> Comments?
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> > Tim, I don't know when anybody else will be there but I am
going to be
> > ther ;
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| Subject: | Snap Bushings for Throttle/Prop/Mixture |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Is there anyone who can make sense of this madness with parts?
Why in the heck on page 41-10, are the 3 SB625-8 and SB500-6
snap bushings not included in the fuselage kit per note 1?
I looked at my finishing kit and didn't see any of those
items, ditto the IO-540 FWF kit. Why in the heck would they
skip something this seemingly basic? You know, this kit
wouldn't be half the headache if it weren't for the
parts you have to track down.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Rolling Height |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Tim,
What's the lenght from the end of the tail cone to the firewall? My fuse is due
in a few weeks and I am wondering if I need to rearrange things.
Rick S.
40185
Wings
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Rolling Height |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
It looks like about 214" from tip to tip after you get the 2 little
cabin heat vents installed. Add maybe 1.5-2' I suppose for an engine
mount later too, but up to this point where I am now, 214" about
covers it all.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Tim,
>
> What's the lenght from the end of the tail cone to the firewall? My fuse is due
in a few weeks and I am wondering if I need to rearrange things.
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
> Wings
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Rolling Height |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Thanks Tim....
Almost 18'....looks like I'm heading corner to corner when the mount and engine
is attached.
Rick S.
40185
Wings
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| Subject: | Re: VERY bad news today |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
A mid-air also happened in Delaware between two airplanes during a 6-ship
formation demonstration - all appeared to be RVs except for a cacard
airplane. http://www.nbc4.com/index.html has the video clip
http://nbc4.feedroom.com/index.jsp?fr_story=293415b4f830b1291a44a7287d287dd9
df498f02 taken by a vacationer.
The video clip doesn't really explain what happened. The 6 ships splitted
up into two groups of 3 each for a head-on pass which was uneventful. Soon
after what appeared to be an RV-6 or 7 just drifted upward and collided with
the canard airplane. Both went down the Delaware Bay. The news clip
mentioned Jay Gloom from PA being one of the pilots. The other is still
missing.
Anh
#141
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: RV10-List: VERY bad news today
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I was just about to turn in and I saw this in my email:
>
> "Looks as though the Masters of Disaster airshow team has had a tragedy
> today. At an airshow in Moose Jaw, Canada, two biplanes collided in
> flight, burned and crashed. Both pilots killed. My info has the team
> made up of Jimmy Franklin, Kyle Franklin, Rich Gibson, Jim LeRoy, John
> Mohr, Kent Pietsch, Les and Kent Schokley (jet-trucks), and Bobby
> Younkin. No names were mentioned in the article. Kent is scheduled to
> appear at Oshkosh and I imagine The Franklin's Jet Waco is scheduled as
> well. Condolensces to the families involved."
>
> Here's a link as well:
>
http://www.saskatchewanairshow.com/main.php?group=/entertainment&action=/fly
ing
>
>
> This is very sad for me, as from the sounds of it, two of my
> very favorite performers were lost. The Masters of Disaster
> show, that I first saw at OSH one or two seasons ago, was
> my favorite act since the disappearance of Bob Hoover from
> the show circuit, and the discontinuance of the turbo Raven
> act. The Jet Waco was always a fantastic act as well. I don't
> know who the 2 performers were, but if the Bulldog made it,
> there's not much left to choose between. This is really a
> sad day.
>
> Tim
> --
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Riveting canopy to side skins |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
A friend in Canada used solid rivets in these areas. I don't know about
structural integrity but it is quite nice. Take it for what it is worth.
Anh
#141
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Riveting canopy to side skins
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I had some ok progress this weekend and ended up beginning the
> permanent install of the cabin cover. The plans called for
> CS4-4 "Typ" (Typical) for the rivets holding the top to
> the side skins. I couldn't think of any reason you wouldn't
> be able to use AN426AD4-6 rivets instead, other than possibly
> worrying about cracking your fiberglass.
>
> Did anyone else substitute the CS4-4's? What's your thinking?
> I did end up using the AN426AD4-6's right below the windows
> in the rear seats, but stopped after that. If there's any
> structural problem, I figured I had better allow to at
> least put CS4-4's on the back half of the canopy if necessary,
> since just having those in that location should prevent
> anything major.
>
> But, it ain't too late to drill them and pop them either.
>
> Tim
> --
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VERY bad news today |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
Here's one post from our MidAtlanticRVWing. I've known Ralph to be a
skillful formation pilot. Anh
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Jay Blum and Ralph Morgan passed away yesterday in an accident during
formation practice. They will be dearly missed by all of us, not just the
Vultures. Please pray for the families involved as we try and get through
these troubling times. We mourn their passing and celebrate their life.
Joe Czachorowski
----- Original Message -----
From: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: VERY bad news today
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
>
> A mid-air also happened in Delaware between two airplanes during a 6-ship
> formation demonstration - all appeared to be RVs except for a cacard
> airplane. http://www.nbc4.com/index.html has the video clip
>
http://nbc4.feedroom.com/index.jsp?fr_story=293415b4f830b1291a44a7287d287dd9
> df498f02 taken by a vacationer.
>
> The video clip doesn't really explain what happened. The 6 ships splitted
> up into two groups of 3 each for a head-on pass which was uneventful.
Soon
> after what appeared to be an RV-6 or 7 just drifted upward and collided
with
> the canard airplane. Both went down the Delaware Bay. The news clip
> mentioned Jay Gloom from PA being one of the pilots. The other is still
> missing.
>
> Anh
> #141
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: "RV10" <RV10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 1:20 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: VERY bad news today
>
>
> >
> >
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> >
> > I was just about to turn in and I saw this in my email:
> >
> > "Looks as though the Masters of Disaster airshow team has had a tragedy
> > today. At an airshow in Moose Jaw, Canada, two biplanes collided in
> > flight, burned and crashed. Both pilots killed. My info has the team
> > made up of Jimmy Franklin, Kyle Franklin, Rich Gibson, Jim LeRoy, John
> > Mohr, Kent Pietsch, Les and Kent Schokley (jet-trucks), and Bobby
> > Younkin. No names were mentioned in the article. Kent is scheduled to
> > appear at Oshkosh and I imagine The Franklin's Jet Waco is scheduled as
> > well. Condolensces to the families involved."
> >
> > Here's a link as well:
> >
>
http://www.saskatchewanairshow.com/main.php?group=/entertainment&action=/fly
> ing
> >
> >
> > This is very sad for me, as from the sounds of it, two of my
> > very favorite performers were lost. The Masters of Disaster
> > show, that I first saw at OSH one or two seasons ago, was
> > my favorite act since the disappearance of Bob Hoover from
> > the show circuit, and the discontinuance of the turbo Raven
> > act. The Jet Waco was always a fantastic act as well. I don't
> > know who the 2 performers were, but if the Bulldog made it,
> > there's not much left to choose between. This is really a
> > sad day.
> >
> > Tim
> > --
> >
> > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
> > Current project: Fuselage
> >
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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