Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:23 AM - Re: RV-10 for sale (Albert Gardner)
2. 12:58 AM - Re: RV-10 for sale (John W. Cox)
3. 04:04 AM - Re: HS Brackets (Rick)
4. 05:31 AM - Re: Re: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach ()
5. 05:49 AM - Re: N610RV News? (Conti, Rick)
6. 06:03 AM - OSH gathering (Gary Specketer)
7. 06:50 AM - RV-10 for sale (Dave Saylor)
8. 07:33 AM - Re: RV-10 for sale (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
9. 07:40 AM - Re: OSH gathering (Tim Olson)
10. 08:37 AM - O/IO-540 crankshaft problems (Werner Schneider)
11. 09:02 AM - Re: OSH gathering (Gary Specketer)
12. 10:14 AM - List Digest Truncation Fixed!! (Matt Dralle)
13. 11:55 AM - Ice Cream Social at OSH? (Tim Olson)
14. 12:02 PM - Re: Ice Cream Social at OSH? (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
15. 12:40 PM - Re: Ice Cream Social at OSH? (Gary Specketer)
16. 01:15 PM - Re: Ice Cream Social at OSH? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
17. 01:47 PM - Re: N610RV News? (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
18. 01:48 PM - Re: Ice Cream Social at OSH? (Cory Emberson)
19. 02:12 PM - Re: Ice Cream Social at OSH? (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
20. 02:23 PM - Re: N610RV News? (Dan Checkoway)
21. 02:49 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach (Jesse Saint)
22. 02:50 PM - Re: N610RV News? (Jesse Saint)
23. 03:10 PM - Re: N610RV News? (John Jessen)
24. 03:25 PM - Re: Oshkosh bound (Scott Schmidt)
25. 03:26 PM - Re: N610RV News? (James Ochs)
26. 03:39 PM - Re: N610RV News? (Tim Olson)
27. 03:46 PM - Re: Oshkosh bound (Rick)
28. 04:04 PM - Re: N610RV News? (Gary Seaton)
29. 04:38 PM - Re: N610RV News? (Jim Combs)
30. 04:46 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach (Gary Specketer)
31. 07:02 PM - Re: Ice Cream Social at OSH? (Jack Sparling)
32. 07:22 PM - Re: Ice Cream Social at OSH? (Bill and Tami Britton)
33. 08:17 PM - Re: Ice Cream Social at OSH? (Brian Sponcil)
34. 09:00 PM - Re: Ice Cream Social at OSH? (Mike Kraus)
35. 09:04 PM - Re: Ice Cream Social at OSH? (Mike Kraus)
36. 10:23 PM - Re: N610RV News? (Jesse Saint)
37. 10:48 PM - X-Country Stats (Jesse Saint)
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
When you apply for your Airworthiness Certificate you submit notarized FAA
Form 8130-12 titled Eligibility Statement Amateur-Built Aircraft.
Section I. REGISTERED OWNER INFORMATION
Section II. AIRCRAFT INFORMATION
Section III MAJOR PORTION ELIGIBILITY STATEMENT OF APPLICANT
I certify the aircraft identified in section II above was fabricated and
assembled by _____ for my (their) education or recreation. I (we) have
records to support this statement and will make them available to the FAA
upon request.
-NOTICE-
Woever [sic] in any manner within the jurisdiction of a department or agency
of the United States knowingly and willfully falsifies, conceals or covers
up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact, or who makes any false,
fictitious or fraudulent statements or representations, or makes or uses any
false writing or document knowing the same to contain any false, fictitious
or fraudulent statement or entry, shall be fined not more than $10,000 or
imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both (U.S. Code, Title 18, Sec. 1001.)
APPLICANT'S DECLARATION
I hereby certify that all statements and answers provided by me in this
statement form are complete and true to the best of my knowledge, and I
agree that they are to be considered part of the basis for issuance of any
FAA certificate to me. I have also read and understand the Privacy Act
statement that accompanies this form.
Signature of Applicant (in Ink)
Section IV. NOTARIZATION STATEMENT
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
It would be nave to think that every single kit built plane registered today is built without a few receiving professional assistance. Here is a firm in California that has made an artform out of taking you step by step on the minimum number of tasks necessary to answer the question on 51%. http://www.aircraftersllc.com/51percent.htm
Just last year a close friend won an award at OSH with significant work completed
Out of State. And not an adjacent state either. Those with money have more
options available.
Just know that VAN strongly discourages anyone missing the thrill of it all and
not doing it in their own garage. Many a comment has been made about the delay
of doing it at an airport rather than in your home. He may well have a point
with the quality of fabrication, design and the rapid construction of the RV-10s.
The RV-4s of the 1980's were a whole nother can of aluminum.
John - KUAO
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 for sale
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
Does anybody have a summary of the rules for this type of project, building
a plane for sale or for hire? The 51% rule is mainly for being named as the
mechanic for the plane, right?
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 for sale
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
As I understand it, Eldon Lamprecht (651) 777-7349 purchased the kit
components from VANS then contracted Paul Irlbeck to build it
professionally for resale not education and enjoyment. This is an issue
we do not want to start here. Lurkers from VANS are already frowning
any time I raise such subjects.
Paul Irlbeck, Wabasha, MN. Paul is a professional aircraft mechanic who
specializes in the construction assistance of RV aircraft. He can he
reached at 651-565-3653
Randy and I were joking that it computes to $85/hour which is better
than I make as a Real Estate Broker or A & P. The Lancair Builder
assists were getting 120 to 140 per plane. Joe Bartels created a
Factory Support program and encouraged builders to come home to the
factory at $4,000 per week. You can build an entire Legacy, ES or IVP
right in Bend and it sure clipped the wings of the Pros that were
laughing on their way to the bank. Now the spirit of the reg is more
aligned.
That's all my database has on it other than its ready for the DAR
inspection.
His last effort for Eldon was
N10PE
Aircraft Serial Number : 2041
Aircraft Manufacturer : IRLBECK P C/LAMPRECHT E G
Model : RV-4
Engine Manufacturer : LYCOMING
Model : 0-320 SERIES
Aircraft Year : 1989
Owner Name : LAMPRECHT ELDEN G
Owner Address : 2807 HILO AVE N
OAKDALE, MN, 55128
Type of Owner : Individual
Registration Date : 14-Oct-1992
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental
Approved Operations : Amateur Built
Someone east of Chicago must know more than those of us out on the Left
Coast.
John - KUAO
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Hasbrouck
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 for sale
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck"
<jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
John,
Yep, that's the one. Did it sell? Randy and I had the same
conversation about -10 values.
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
Good morning Jessie can I have a web page or phone number of that trim manufacturer
you mention,I use them in our boats ,and the Ray Allen where very scary when
we dissy, for repair and thinks your life hang from these oversize remote
control planes servos.
Thanks,Hugo
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> From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
> Date: 2005/07/13 Wed PM 11:26:29 EDT
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
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> I will look for a link. The guy is always at Sun-N-Fun with a little cheesy
> display and sometimes wears a hat with a little propeller on top. Not very
> impressive display, but the trim is STC'd for a lot of different aircraft.
> All metal gears. Stop by and see N256H in the Home Builder's Parking area
> and you can see the installation (they haven't been finished up, but they
> are installed and working).
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> Also, the Infinity control stick is awesome. I think they are at
> www.infinityaerospace.com and they will surely be at Oshkosh (a 450ish-pound
> guy with a control yoke and a throttle quadrant on the table at the front of
> the booth).
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> See ya'll at the show.
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> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> W: 352-465-4545
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:46 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
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> N246RS
> 40185
> Da Wings...waiting on Da Fuse...Sorry, in Chicago this week and next.
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
Tim,
I have a 12" touch screen on the co-pilot side that will connect to a
laptop stored on the right forward sidewall. Movies for the co-pilot,
approach plates and taxi diagrams for the pilot at the touch of a
finger. The screen will be switchable to the Blue Mountain EFIS display
on the pilot's side.
Thank You
Rick Conti
office: 703-414-6141
cell: 571-215-6134
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
Subject: Re: RV10-List: N610RV News?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I LOVE the nitrous idea....I suppose I could always give them
extra dramamine. ;) I'm planning to put in rear seat movies,
but as a post-flying install. I definitely see your point
about the stops. Usually I can keep the stops with the kids
to under 30 minutes, but it does add to the trip. I didn't
care in the past because on a 1000 mile trip, I wanted to land
and get a weather radar picture, but, now I'll have that in
my cockpit.....so I may as well keep the range up and move
along.
Hey, post a shot or two of your trim system...would be
interesting to all.
Definitely look me up at OSH...can't wait to see your -10!
Tim
Jesse Saint wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
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> One of the big issues for us on fuel burn vs. flight time is whether
or not
> you will have to make a stop. If you are going 1,000 miles (yes, I am
> talking statue number as always, sorry), it would be better to back it
off
> to wherever it is required to make it non-stop. Descending and buying
fuel,
> and getting back in for another hour or two actually adds about and
hour or
> two to the flight and might add more whining to the kids. You know, a
> little bit of nitros-oxide added to the rear seat passengers' oxygen
would
> take care of most of the whining, but then I guess you are increasing
your
> cost again. OH YEAH, invest in a DVD player and they can sit forever,
> right?
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> IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE USE!
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> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> W: 352-465-4545
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:24 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: N610RV News?
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Keep it in perspective though......my Sundowner does 9-9.5 @
> 110-112 Kts. Who really cares what the fuel flow is when
> you pull it way back that far. Fuel flow is directly related
> to speed...and speed is distance and time.
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> For instance, would you rather rent a plane for $50/hr
> that goes 100kts, or one that goes 150Kts for $75/hr
> if you were going on a 1000Nm trip?
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> Do the math and sure, the fuel burn may be much higher
> on the $75/hr plane, but the cost of the flight will
> be identical, and you'll get there over 3 hours quicker.
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> Sure, you can get some slight economies by pulling the power
> back...Van's charts show the range increase as you
> reduce to lower % of power, but, is it really that big
> of a difference in the big scheme of things? I myself
> would rather get there before the kids get whiny, and
> pay the extra couple bucks.
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> As for Randy's performance numbers, I'm not at all
> concerned what the fuel flow is at 125kts. I'd
> be much more interested to know what it flows
> at 165, 175, and 185Kts.
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> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> Current project: Fuselage
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>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
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>>That's actually not very great news, 10.5 @ 125. Is this typical? I
used
>>to do 12 @ 135 in the 182. I was hoping for better.
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>>John Jessen
>> (riveting the VS and rudder)
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
DeBauw
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:04 PM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
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>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
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>>Well I am in the final phase of painting the wheel pants. It is time
for
>>another oil change. The oxy bottle will get purchased and hopefully
>>installed before Osh. The carpet is going in soon.
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>>I don't have enough time with the wheel pants on to get some true
numbers
>>but Osh is coming up and should have some real numbers on a long trip
like
>>that. I appears that if you pull back on the power at you can get
about
>>10.5 gal an hour at 125 kts.
>>I still carry about 50 lbs in the baggage area when 2 up and pull it
with
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>>It really handles 4 people well. In fact I prefer 4 people.
>>Myself, full fuel and 50 lbs in the back is fine. More trim and hold
some
>>back pressure for the flare. Keep the speed up. Full flaps on all
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> landings
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>>seems to work best. Slower speed at touch down. The tires look great.
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>>no wear at 42 hours. Everyone that has ridden says how quiet it is. I
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>>the single mufflers system. Even people standing next to it when I had
the
>>prop balanced said it was quite and that was running at 2300 RPM for
10
>>seconds or so. The prop balance was a big help. I could feel it in the
>>rudder peddles before. Can't wait to get to Osh. With it but I have a
lot
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>>work to still do in 1 weekend and a few weeknights. After Osh. It will
be
>>almost done and I can get back to that
>>lawn. Where was that mower? I saw it 21 months ago.... Randy
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean
Stephens
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:10 AM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RV10-List: N610RV News?
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>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
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>>Hey Randy, any more little tidbits of interesting info since the
flyoff?
>>Just wondering how things are going. Hope you are having a blast!
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>>I just need a little "builder boost". :)
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My wife Brenda and I have decided to grab the bull by the horns (or the
plane by the prop) and make our motor home the gathering place in the
evenings at OSH. We are coming early and should have a decent place
close to the flightline.
Here is the plan, I will post the location at both the camp locator in
the camp ground and at Van's booth, if they will let me. Then every
evening feel free to gather and we will either just chat or if so moved
we will make a run with our tow vehicle and get some food and drinks.
I will carry my cell phone so you can call if you need more info, or
can't find the motor home (It is a Dolphin brand with large dolphin fish
on the side)
770-403-3450
Gary
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@aircraftersllc.com>
>>Here is a firm in California that has made an artform out of taking you
step by step on the minimum number of tasks necessary to answer the question
on 51%<<
I consider those kind words, John. We put a lot of thought into our 51%
page. In fact, it used to be somewhat more liberal, but I toned it down
after being taken to task by the FAA. I can now say it's been pretty
carefully interpreted by all concerned.
For the record, we have never "built" a customer's plane by ourselves. The
closest we've come has been taking delivery of a GlaStar in the box, but in
that case the owner worked with us every day and put in a lot more than 51%
of the work. We realized long ago that there is no long term business case
in skirting the 51% rule.
I am (really) building my own 10 now, and I consider it recreation and
education. Like all of you, I rearranged my lifestyle to make time for the
project, and I can't wait to get back on it. It is not for sale, but then I
doubt I'll see an offer of $287K...that might change everything!
Do not archive
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
Just riveted front H-stab spar doublers
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Well said Dave, and the comments by Lancair owners have always been
positive on their relationship with you, your firm and the quality of
product. I feel VAN's has been fiscally conservative on selling the 51%
to 99.9% policy for good reason. But if a builder wants to understand
the policy, learn by the experience of others and build a higher quality
product - then use of professionals "Within the scope" of the regulation
should be the guiding principal. Knowledge, common sense and Safety all
go hand in hand. We all know the education becomes more broad than we
ever imagined.
Wouldn't it be amazing if the Slow Build Wing guys on this list could
waive a wand, hire a professional to do the <49% clecoing, drilling,
dimpling, deburring and rivet squeezing and follow Larry Rosen's trail
to a recognized build center for the empennage and followed by the QB on
the fuselage and wings. It is one of the reason that the Repeat
Offenders came on so quick with their flying RV-10s.
Starting the journey by knowing those tasks approved to be done outside
the 51% rule makes the path more direct.
John - KUAO
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 for sale
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@aircraftersllc.com>
>>Here is a firm in California that has made an artform out of taking
you
step by step on the minimum number of tasks necessary to answer the
question
on 51%<<
I consider those kind words, John. We put a lot of thought into our 51%
page. In fact, it used to be somewhat more liberal, but I toned it down
after being taken to task by the FAA. I can now say it's been pretty
carefully interpreted by all concerned.
For the record, we have never "built" a customer's plane by ourselves.
The
closest we've come has been taking delivery of a GlaStar in the box, but
in
that case the owner worked with us every day and put in a lot more than
51%
of the work. We realized long ago that there is no long term business
case
in skirting the 51% rule.
I am (really) building my own 10 now, and I consider it recreation and
education. Like all of you, I rearranged my lifestyle to make time for
the
project, and I can't wait to get back on it. It is not for sale, but
then I
doubt I'll see an offer of $287K...that might change everything!
Do not archive
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
Just riveted front H-stab spar doublers
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| Subject: | Re: OSH gathering |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Fantastic Bullfighting job Gary! A dolphin motorhome should
be easy to find. If you get there before the show, call me
and give me some good walking directions. I won't be at the
show Monday, but if you let me know the location, I'll update
the website so that it's available there. Also, at the 10:30
am gatherings we can try to pass the word.
Works great for me:
FYI: I'm trying to refine my schedule. Looking like
TU/We/Th/Sat I'm flexible since I'm close, so weather
might move things. Since I'm back and forth, it gets costly
to come lots of days. *yeah, I know I could camp, but
the kids/dogs issues kind of slow me down*
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
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Gary Specketer wrote:
> My wife Brenda and I have decided to grab the bull by the horns (or the
> plane by the prop) and make our motor home the gathering place in the
> evenings at OSH. We are coming early and should have a decent place
> close to the flightline.
> Here is the plan, I will post the location at both the camp locator in
> the camp ground and at Van's booth, if they will let me. Then every
> evening feel free to gather and we will either just chat or if so moved
> we will make a run with our tow vehicle and get some food and drinks.
> I will carry my cell phone so you can call if you need more info, or
> can't find the motor home (It is a Dolphin brand with large dolphin fish
> on the side)
> 770-403-3450
> Gary
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| Subject: | O/IO-540 crankshaft problems |
MessageSeems Lycoming found more of this bad crankshafts, see
<http://www.lycoming.textron.com/main.jsp?bodyPage/serviceBulletin566/index.html>
Werner
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
We plan on arriving at OSH on Thurs before the show begins
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH gathering
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Fantastic Bullfighting job Gary! A dolphin motorhome should
be easy to find. If you get there before the show, call me
and give me some good walking directions. I won't be at the show
Monday, but if you let me know the location, I'll update
the website so that it's available there. Also, at the 10:30
am gatherings we can try to pass the word.
Works great for me:
FYI: I'm trying to refine my schedule. Looking like
TU/We/Th/Sat I'm flexible since I'm close, so weather
might move things. Since I'm back and forth, it gets costly
to come lots of days. *yeah, I know I could camp, but
the kids/dogs issues kind of slow me down*
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
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Gary Specketer wrote:
> My wife Brenda and I have decided to grab the bull by the horns (or
> the
> plane by the prop) and make our motor home the gathering place in the
> evenings at OSH. We are coming early and should have a decent place
> close to the flightline.
> Here is the plan, I will post the location at both the camp locator in
> the camp ground and at Van's booth, if they will let me. Then every
> evening feel free to gather and we will either just chat or if so
moved
> we will make a run with our tow vehicle and get some food and drinks.
> I will carry my cell phone so you can call if you need more info, or
> can't find the motor home (It is a Dolphin brand with large dolphin
fish
> on the side)
> 770-403-3450
> Gary
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
I finally figured out today what was causing the occasional
truncation of the daily List Digest emails. Seems that every once in
a while a message would contain a single "." (period) on line all by
itself. The mailers would see this and assume that this was the
universal emailer signal for "end of message", and consequently
wouldn't process any of the rest of the Digest message.
I've put in a filter today to remove any of these sequences so we
should be back in business on the Digests.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
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| Subject: | Ice Cream Social at OSH? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Mike from Cleaveland Aircraft Tools (he's a -10 builder too)
would like to see if there's interest in an ice cream social
on something like Monday night at OSH. (or, another date if
a different one works better)
Any input?? You can email the list, or Mike at
mike@cleavelandtool.com
I told him I'd report back if there was interest and what
seemed to be the best date.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
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| Subject: | Ice Cream Social at OSH? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Absolutely!
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Ice Cream Social at OSH?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Mike from Cleaveland Aircraft Tools (he's a -10 builder too)
would like to see if there's interest in an ice cream social
on something like Monday night at OSH. (or, another date if
a different one works better)
Any input?? You can email the list, or Mike at
mike@cleavelandtool.com
I told him I'd report back if there was interest and what
seemed to be the best date.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
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| Subject: | Ice Cream Social at OSH? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
I will offer the motorhome as a place to have it if you like.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Ice Cream Social at OSH?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Mike from Cleaveland Aircraft Tools (he's a -10 builder too) would like
to see if there's interest in an ice cream social on something like
Monday night at OSH. (or, another date if a different one works better)
Any input?? You can email the list, or Mike at mike@cleavelandtool.com
I told him I'd report back if there was interest and what seemed to be
the best date.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
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| Subject: | Ice Cream Social at OSH? |
Sounds good to me. Too bad we don't have more transportation, one of the best
drive in's around (and supposedly what Happy Days was based on) is on the opposite
end of town. It's a place called Leon's. Haven't been there in probably
10 years but I drove past there a couple weeks ago and it's still there. Wasn't
sure as Oshkosh is undergoing a "revitalization" and a lot of old places
(like Field's Ice Cream) are gone. Freaky how I lived in OSH for several years
when I was going to school there and now it seems a little foreign.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Ice Cream Social at OSH?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Mike from Cleaveland Aircraft Tools (he's a -10 builder too) would like to see
if there's interest in an ice cream social on something like Monday night at OSH.
(or, another date if a different one works better)
Any input?? You can email the list, or Mike at mike@cleavelandtool.com
I told him I'd report back if there was interest and what seemed to be the best
date.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" <sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
I am considering the same type of setup on my panel. What brand of
screen did you use?
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick
Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
Tim,
I have a 12" touch screen on the co-pilot side that will connect to a
laptop stored on the right forward sidewall. Movies for the co-pilot,
approach plates and taxi diagrams for the pilot at the touch of a
finger. The screen will be switchable to the Blue Mountain EFIS display
on the pilot's side.
Thank You
Rick Conti
office: 703-414-6141
cell: 571-215-6134
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
Subject: Re: RV10-List: N610RV News?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I LOVE the nitrous idea....I suppose I could always give them
extra dramamine. ;) I'm planning to put in rear seat movies,
but as a post-flying install. I definitely see your point
about the stops. Usually I can keep the stops with the kids
to under 30 minutes, but it does add to the trip. I didn't
care in the past because on a 1000 mile trip, I wanted to land
and get a weather radar picture, but, now I'll have that in
my cockpit.....so I may as well keep the range up and move
along.
Hey, post a shot or two of your trim system...would be
interesting to all.
Definitely look me up at OSH...can't wait to see your -10!
Tim
Jesse Saint wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> One of the big issues for us on fuel burn vs. flight time is whether
or not
> you will have to make a stop. If you are going 1,000 miles (yes, I am
> talking statue number as always, sorry), it would be better to back it
off
> to wherever it is required to make it non-stop. Descending and buying
fuel,
> and getting back in for another hour or two actually adds about and
hour or
> two to the flight and might add more whining to the kids. You know, a
> little bit of nitros-oxide added to the rear seat passengers' oxygen
would
> take care of most of the whining, but then I guess you are increasing
your
> cost again. OH YEAH, invest in a DVD player and they can sit forever,
> right?
>
> IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE USE!
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> W: 352-465-4545
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:24 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Keep it in perspective though......my Sundowner does 9-9.5 @
> 110-112 Kts. Who really cares what the fuel flow is when
> you pull it way back that far. Fuel flow is directly related
> to speed...and speed is distance and time.
>
> For instance, would you rather rent a plane for $50/hr
> that goes 100kts, or one that goes 150Kts for $75/hr
> if you were going on a 1000Nm trip?
>
> Do the math and sure, the fuel burn may be much higher
> on the $75/hr plane, but the cost of the flight will
> be identical, and you'll get there over 3 hours quicker.
>
> Sure, you can get some slight economies by pulling the power
> back...Van's charts show the range increase as you
> reduce to lower % of power, but, is it really that big
> of a difference in the big scheme of things? I myself
> would rather get there before the kids get whiny, and
> pay the extra couple bucks.
>
> As for Randy's performance numbers, I'm not at all
> concerned what the fuel flow is at 125kts. I'd
> be much more interested to know what it flows
> at 165, 175, and 185Kts.
>
> Tim
>
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
>
> John Jessen wrote:
>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>>
>>That's actually not very great news, 10.5 @ 125. Is this typical? I
used
>>to do 12 @ 135 in the 182. I was hoping for better.
>>
>>John Jessen
>> (riveting the VS and rudder)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
DeBauw
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:04 PM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
>>
>>Well I am in the final phase of painting the wheel pants. It is time
for
>>another oil change. The oxy bottle will get purchased and hopefully
>>installed before Osh. The carpet is going in soon.
>>
>>I don't have enough time with the wheel pants on to get some true
numbers
>>but Osh is coming up and should have some real numbers on a long trip
like
>>that. I appears that if you pull back on the power at you can get
about
>>10.5 gal an hour at 125 kts.
>>I still carry about 50 lbs in the baggage area when 2 up and pull it
with
>
> 4.
>
>>It really handles 4 people well. In fact I prefer 4 people.
>>Myself, full fuel and 50 lbs in the back is fine. More trim and hold
some
>>back pressure for the flare. Keep the speed up. Full flaps on all
>
> landings
>
>>seems to work best. Slower speed at touch down. The tires look great.
>
> Almost
>
>>no wear at 42 hours. Everyone that has ridden says how quiet it is. I
>
> have
>
>>the single mufflers system. Even people standing next to it when I had
the
>>prop balanced said it was quite and that was running at 2300 RPM for
10
>>seconds or so. The prop balance was a big help. I could feel it in the
>>rudder peddles before. Can't wait to get to Osh. With it but I have a
lot
>
> of
>
>>work to still do in 1 weekend and a few weeknights. After Osh. It will
be
>>almost done and I can get back to that
>>lawn. Where was that mower? I saw it 21 months ago.... Randy
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean
Stephens
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:10 AM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
>>
>>Hey Randy, any more little tidbits of interesting info since the
flyoff?
>>Just wondering how things are going. Hope you are having a blast!
>>
>>I just need a little "builder boost". :)
>>
>>-Sean #40303 nearing end of flaps
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| Subject: | Ice Cream Social at OSH? |
RE: RV10-List: Ice Cream Social at OSH?I can vouch for Leon's wonderfulness.
It's one of the first places I head upon arrival in OSH!
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 1:13 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Ice Cream Social at OSH?
Sounds good to me. Too bad we don't have more transportation, one of
the best drive in's around (and supposedly what Happy Days was based on) is
on the opposite end of town. It's a place called Leon's. Haven't been there
in probably 10 years but I drove past there a couple weeks ago and it's
still there. Wasn't sure as Oshkosh is undergoing a "revitalization" and a
lot of old places (like Field's Ice Cream) are gone. Freaky how I lived in
OSH for several years when I was going to school there and now it seems a
little foreign.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 1:55 PM
To: RV10
Subject: RV10-List: Ice Cream Social at OSH?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Mike from Cleaveland Aircraft Tools (he's a -10 builder too) would like to
see if there's interest in an ice cream social on something like Monday
night at OSH. (or, another date if a different one works better)
Any input?? You can email the list, or Mike at mike@cleavelandtool.com
I told him I'd report back if there was interest and what seemed to be the
best date.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
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RV10-List Email Forum -
more:
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| Subject: | Ice Cream Social at OSH? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
I would attend with family of 4
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Ice Cream Social at OSH?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Mike from Cleaveland Aircraft Tools (he's a -10 builder too)
would like to see if there's interest in an ice cream social
on something like Monday night at OSH. (or, another date if
a different one works better)
Any input?? You can email the list, or Mike at
mike@cleavelandtool.com
I told him I'd report back if there was interest and what
seemed to be the best date.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: N610RV News? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> We've been getting number like 175mph (sorry for the statue numbers) at
> 9.5gph at 12,000 with no gear leg fairings. We've seen 175ish @ 8.5gph @
> 14,500. It likes high. We should get some good number on the trip to
Osh.
> Osh will be the first cross-country.
Is that GS? IAS? TAS? CAS?
4-way average? 3-way vector?
I *love* reading stats, just bugs me when they have no reference point!
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)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Rudder Pedal Cable Attach |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
I don't have the info with me. I am actually near Oshkosh right now and
will be until the show (home is Florida). I will try to get the guy's
information at the show or after the show I can look it up at home for those
of you who won't be going to the show. We don't know how well they will
hold up, but we will let you know if something happens to them.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gommone7@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach
--> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
Good morning Jessie can I have a web page or phone number of that trim
manufacturer you mention,I use them in our boats ,and the Ray Allen where
very scary when we dissy, for repair and thinks your life hang from these
oversize remote control planes servos.
Thanks,Hugo
>
> From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
> Date: 2005/07/13 Wed PM 11:26:29 EDT
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> I will look for a link. The guy is always at Sun-N-Fun with a little
cheesy
> display and sometimes wears a hat with a little propeller on top. Not
very
> impressive display, but the trim is STC'd for a lot of different aircraft.
> All metal gears. Stop by and see N256H in the Home Builder's Parking area
> and you can see the installation (they haven't been finished up, but they
> are installed and working).
>
> Also, the Infinity control stick is awesome. I think they are at
> www.infinityaerospace.com and they will surely be at Oshkosh (a
450ish-pound
> guy with a control yoke and a throttle quadrant on the table at the front
of
> the booth).
>
> See ya'll at the show.
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> W: 352-465-4545
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:46 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Jesse,
>
> Can you provide link or contact info for this?
>
> Rick S.
> N246RS
> 40185
> Da Wings...waiting on Da Fuse...Sorry, in Chicago this week and next.
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
I would love some more details (you can e-mail me off the list) of your
system.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick
Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
Tim,
I have a 12" touch screen on the co-pilot side that will connect to a
laptop stored on the right forward sidewall. Movies for the co-pilot,
approach plates and taxi diagrams for the pilot at the touch of a
finger. The screen will be switchable to the Blue Mountain EFIS display
on the pilot's side.
Thank You
Rick Conti
office: 703-414-6141
cell: 571-215-6134
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
Subject: Re: RV10-List: N610RV News?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I LOVE the nitrous idea....I suppose I could always give them
extra dramamine. ;) I'm planning to put in rear seat movies,
but as a post-flying install. I definitely see your point
about the stops. Usually I can keep the stops with the kids
to under 30 minutes, but it does add to the trip. I didn't
care in the past because on a 1000 mile trip, I wanted to land
and get a weather radar picture, but, now I'll have that in
my cockpit.....so I may as well keep the range up and move
along.
Hey, post a shot or two of your trim system...would be
interesting to all.
Definitely look me up at OSH...can't wait to see your -10!
Tim
Jesse Saint wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> One of the big issues for us on fuel burn vs. flight time is whether
or not
> you will have to make a stop. If you are going 1,000 miles (yes, I am
> talking statue number as always, sorry), it would be better to back it
off
> to wherever it is required to make it non-stop. Descending and buying
fuel,
> and getting back in for another hour or two actually adds about and
hour or
> two to the flight and might add more whining to the kids. You know, a
> little bit of nitros-oxide added to the rear seat passengers' oxygen
would
> take care of most of the whining, but then I guess you are increasing
your
> cost again. OH YEAH, invest in a DVD player and they can sit forever,
> right?
>
> IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE USE!
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> W: 352-465-4545
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:24 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Keep it in perspective though......my Sundowner does 9-9.5 @
> 110-112 Kts. Who really cares what the fuel flow is when
> you pull it way back that far. Fuel flow is directly related
> to speed...and speed is distance and time.
>
> For instance, would you rather rent a plane for $50/hr
> that goes 100kts, or one that goes 150Kts for $75/hr
> if you were going on a 1000Nm trip?
>
> Do the math and sure, the fuel burn may be much higher
> on the $75/hr plane, but the cost of the flight will
> be identical, and you'll get there over 3 hours quicker.
>
> Sure, you can get some slight economies by pulling the power
> back...Van's charts show the range increase as you
> reduce to lower % of power, but, is it really that big
> of a difference in the big scheme of things? I myself
> would rather get there before the kids get whiny, and
> pay the extra couple bucks.
>
> As for Randy's performance numbers, I'm not at all
> concerned what the fuel flow is at 125kts. I'd
> be much more interested to know what it flows
> at 165, 175, and 185Kts.
>
> Tim
>
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
>
> John Jessen wrote:
>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>>
>>That's actually not very great news, 10.5 @ 125. Is this typical? I
used
>>to do 12 @ 135 in the 182. I was hoping for better.
>>
>>John Jessen
>> (riveting the VS and rudder)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
DeBauw
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:04 PM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
>>
>>Well I am in the final phase of painting the wheel pants. It is time
for
>>another oil change. The oxy bottle will get purchased and hopefully
>>installed before Osh. The carpet is going in soon.
>>
>>I don't have enough time with the wheel pants on to get some true
numbers
>>but Osh is coming up and should have some real numbers on a long trip
like
>>that. I appears that if you pull back on the power at you can get
about
>>10.5 gal an hour at 125 kts.
>>I still carry about 50 lbs in the baggage area when 2 up and pull it
with
>
> 4.
>
>>It really handles 4 people well. In fact I prefer 4 people.
>>Myself, full fuel and 50 lbs in the back is fine. More trim and hold
some
>>back pressure for the flare. Keep the speed up. Full flaps on all
>
> landings
>
>>seems to work best. Slower speed at touch down. The tires look great.
>
> Almost
>
>>no wear at 42 hours. Everyone that has ridden says how quiet it is. I
>
> have
>
>>the single mufflers system. Even people standing next to it when I had
the
>>prop balanced said it was quite and that was running at 2300 RPM for
10
>>seconds or so. The prop balance was a big help. I could feel it in the
>>rudder peddles before. Can't wait to get to Osh. With it but I have a
lot
>
> of
>
>>work to still do in 1 weekend and a few weeknights. After Osh. It will
be
>>almost done and I can get back to that
>>lawn. Where was that mower? I saw it 21 months ago.... Randy
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean
Stephens
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:10 AM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
>>
>>Hey Randy, any more little tidbits of interesting info since the
flyoff?
>>Just wondering how things are going. Hope you are having a blast!
>>
>>I just need a little "builder boost". :)
>>
>>-Sean #40303 nearing end of flaps
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d="scan'208"; a="58818848:sNHT810187392"
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
I'm interested as well. Please include me in your off list discussion...
John Jessen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
I would love some more details (you can e-mail me off the list) of your
system.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick
Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
Tim,
I have a 12" touch screen on the co-pilot side that will connect to a laptop
stored on the right forward sidewall. Movies for the co-pilot, approach
plates and taxi diagrams for the pilot at the touch of a finger. The screen
will be switchable to the Blue Mountain EFIS display on the pilot's side.
Thank You
Rick Conti
office: 703-414-6141
cell: 571-215-6134
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
Subject: Re: RV10-List: N610RV News?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I LOVE the nitrous idea....I suppose I could always give them extra
dramamine. ;) I'm planning to put in rear seat movies,
but as a post-flying install. I definitely see your point
about the stops. Usually I can keep the stops with the kids to under 30
minutes, but it does add to the trip. I didn't care in the past because on
a 1000 mile trip, I wanted to land and get a weather radar picture, but, now
I'll have that in my cockpit.....so I may as well keep the range up and move
along.
Hey, post a shot or two of your trim system...would be interesting to all.
Definitely look me up at OSH...can't wait to see your -10!
Tim
Jesse Saint wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> One of the big issues for us on fuel burn vs. flight time is whether
or not
> you will have to make a stop. If you are going 1,000 miles (yes, I am
> talking statue number as always, sorry), it would be better to back it
off
> to wherever it is required to make it non-stop. Descending and buying
fuel,
> and getting back in for another hour or two actually adds about and
hour or
> two to the flight and might add more whining to the kids. You know, a
> little bit of nitros-oxide added to the rear seat passengers' oxygen
would
> take care of most of the whining, but then I guess you are increasing
your
> cost again. OH YEAH, invest in a DVD player and they can sit forever,
> right?
>
> IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE USE!
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> W: 352-465-4545
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:24 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Keep it in perspective though......my Sundowner does 9-9.5 @
> 110-112 Kts. Who really cares what the fuel flow is when
> you pull it way back that far. Fuel flow is directly related to
> speed...and speed is distance and time.
>
> For instance, would you rather rent a plane for $50/hr that goes
> 100kts, or one that goes 150Kts for $75/hr if you were going on a
> 1000Nm trip?
>
> Do the math and sure, the fuel burn may be much higher on the $75/hr
> plane, but the cost of the flight will be identical, and you'll get
> there over 3 hours quicker.
>
> Sure, you can get some slight economies by pulling the power
> back...Van's charts show the range increase as you reduce to lower %
> of power, but, is it really that big of a difference in the big scheme
> of things? I myself would rather get there before the kids get whiny,
> and pay the extra couple bucks.
>
> As for Randy's performance numbers, I'm not at all concerned what the
> fuel flow is at 125kts. I'd be much more interested to know what it
> flows at 165, 175, and 185Kts.
>
> Tim
>
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
>
> John Jessen wrote:
>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>>
>>That's actually not very great news, 10.5 @ 125. Is this typical? I
used
>>to do 12 @ 135 in the 182. I was hoping for better.
>>
>>John Jessen
>> (riveting the VS and rudder)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
DeBauw
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:04 PM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
>>
>>Well I am in the final phase of painting the wheel pants. It is time
for
>>another oil change. The oxy bottle will get purchased and hopefully
>>installed before Osh. The carpet is going in soon.
>>
>>I don't have enough time with the wheel pants on to get some true
numbers
>>but Osh is coming up and should have some real numbers on a long trip
like
>>that. I appears that if you pull back on the power at you can get
about
>>10.5 gal an hour at 125 kts.
>>I still carry about 50 lbs in the baggage area when 2 up and pull it
with
>
> 4.
>
>>It really handles 4 people well. In fact I prefer 4 people.
>>Myself, full fuel and 50 lbs in the back is fine. More trim and hold
some
>>back pressure for the flare. Keep the speed up. Full flaps on all
>
> landings
>
>>seems to work best. Slower speed at touch down. The tires look great.
>
> Almost
>
>>no wear at 42 hours. Everyone that has ridden says how quiet it is. I
>
> have
>
>>the single mufflers system. Even people standing next to it when I had
the
>>prop balanced said it was quite and that was running at 2300 RPM for
10
>>seconds or so. The prop balance was a big help. I could feel it in the
>>rudder peddles before. Can't wait to get to Osh. With it but I have a
lot
>
> of
>
>>work to still do in 1 weekend and a few weeknights. After Osh. It will
be
>>almost done and I can get back to that
>>lawn. Where was that mower? I saw it 21 months ago.... Randy
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean
Stephens
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:10 AM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
>>
>>Hey Randy, any more little tidbits of interesting info since the
flyoff?
>>Just wondering how things are going. Hope you are having a blast!
>>
>>I just need a little "builder boost". :)
>>
>>-Sean #40303 nearing end of flaps
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I will be there Wednesday night through Sunday.
Here is my picture.
OK, the first one was a joke, but the second was one of my favorite
shots with Jimmy Franklin. I can't believe he won't be at Oshkosh.
That just really sucks! This was from Reno in 2000.
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Oshkosh bound
I will be there Fri-Sun (29-31st). Would love to meet some you guys.
Mug shot attached.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel & Yoshie
Simmons
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Oshkosh bound
I will be there for most of the show mug shot included will have some
with the RV-10 soon.
Noel RV-10 40091 paint
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Combs
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Oshkosh bound
Thursday would be a better night for me to get out for a dinner.
Count me in.
Mugshot is attached. I will have to be wearing a hat at the show
(Reason should be obvious!). I will be wandering around the avionics
and engine booths looking for stuff to put in the bird. Love to meet
any and all. Looking for a cure for this "Disease". Don't think there
is one. Oh Well!
I will be over at Van's booth at the time suggested by Tim.
Thanks, Tim for setting up the web page. Really useful!
Can't wait!
Jim Combs
#40192 - Fuselage
N312F Reserved
Jim Combs
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--> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
Me too....
if we have a quorum... maybe we should keep it on list?
James
John Jessen wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
>I'm interested as well. Please include me in your off list discussion...
>
>John Jessen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
>Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:50 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
>I would love some more details (you can e-mail me off the list) of your
>system.
>
>Jesse Saint
>I-TEC, Inc.
>jesse@itecusa.org
>www.itecusa.org
>W: 352-465-4545
>C: 352-427-0285
>F: 815-377-3694
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick
>Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:46 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>
>Tim,
>
>I have a 12" touch screen on the co-pilot side that will connect to a laptop
>stored on the right forward sidewall. Movies for the co-pilot, approach
>plates and taxi diagrams for the pilot at the touch of a finger. The screen
>will be switchable to the Blue Mountain EFIS display on the pilot's side.
>
>Thank You
>Rick Conti
>office: 703-414-6141
> cell: 571-215-6134
>
>
>
--
There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself
at the ground and miss. Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Heck, just have it "online" since we're all interested...
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
John Jessen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> I'm interested as well. Please include me in your off list discussion...
>
> John Jessen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:50 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> I would love some more details (you can e-mail me off the list) of your
> system.
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> W: 352-465-4545
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:46 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>
> Tim,
>
> I have a 12" touch screen on the co-pilot side that will connect to a laptop
> stored on the right forward sidewall. Movies for the co-pilot, approach
> plates and taxi diagrams for the pilot at the touch of a finger. The screen
> will be switchable to the Blue Mountain EFIS display on the pilot's side.
>
> Thank You
> Rick Conti
> office: 703-414-6141
> cell: 571-215-6134
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:50 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
>
>
> I LOVE the nitrous idea....I suppose I could always give them extra
> dramamine. ;) I'm planning to put in rear seat movies,
> but as a post-flying install. I definitely see your point
> about the stops. Usually I can keep the stops with the kids to under 30
> minutes, but it does add to the trip. I didn't care in the past because on
> a 1000 mile trip, I wanted to land and get a weather radar picture, but, now
> I'll have that in my cockpit.....so I may as well keep the range up and move
> along.
>
> Hey, post a shot or two of your trim system...would be interesting to all.
>
> Definitely look me up at OSH...can't wait to see your -10!
> Tim
>
> Jesse Saint wrote:
>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>>
>>One of the big issues for us on fuel burn vs. flight time is whether
>
> or not
>
>>you will have to make a stop. If you are going 1,000 miles (yes, I am
>>talking statue number as always, sorry), it would be better to back it
>
> off
>
>>to wherever it is required to make it non-stop. Descending and buying
>
> fuel,
>
>>and getting back in for another hour or two actually adds about and
>
> hour or
>
>>two to the flight and might add more whining to the kids. You know, a
>>little bit of nitros-oxide added to the rear seat passengers' oxygen
>
> would
>
>>take care of most of the whining, but then I guess you are increasing
>
> your
>
>>cost again. OH YEAH, invest in a DVD player and they can sit forever,
>>right?
>>
>>IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE USE!
>>
>>Jesse Saint
>>I-TEC, Inc.
>>jesse@itecusa.org
>>www.itecusa.org
>>W: 352-465-4545
>>C: 352-427-0285
>>F: 815-377-3694
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:24 PM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>>Keep it in perspective though......my Sundowner does 9-9.5 @
>>110-112 Kts. Who really cares what the fuel flow is when
>>you pull it way back that far. Fuel flow is directly related to
>>speed...and speed is distance and time.
>>
>>For instance, would you rather rent a plane for $50/hr that goes
>>100kts, or one that goes 150Kts for $75/hr if you were going on a
>>1000Nm trip?
>>
>>Do the math and sure, the fuel burn may be much higher on the $75/hr
>>plane, but the cost of the flight will be identical, and you'll get
>>there over 3 hours quicker.
>>
>>Sure, you can get some slight economies by pulling the power
>>back...Van's charts show the range increase as you reduce to lower %
>>of power, but, is it really that big of a difference in the big scheme
>>of things? I myself would rather get there before the kids get whiny,
>>and pay the extra couple bucks.
>>
>>As for Randy's performance numbers, I'm not at all concerned what the
>>fuel flow is at 125kts. I'd be much more interested to know what it
>>flows at 165, 175, and 185Kts.
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>
>>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
>>Current project: Fuselage
>>
>>
>>John Jessen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>>>
>>>That's actually not very great news, 10.5 @ 125. Is this typical? I
>
> used
>
>>>to do 12 @ 135 in the 182. I was hoping for better.
>>>
>>>John Jessen
>>> (riveting the VS and rudder)
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
>
> DeBauw
>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:04 PM
>>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>>>
>>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
>>>
>>>Well I am in the final phase of painting the wheel pants. It is time
>
> for
>
>>>another oil change. The oxy bottle will get purchased and hopefully
>>>installed before Osh. The carpet is going in soon.
>>>
>>>I don't have enough time with the wheel pants on to get some true
>
> numbers
>
>>>but Osh is coming up and should have some real numbers on a long trip
>
> like
>
>>>that. I appears that if you pull back on the power at you can get
>
> about
>
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>>>Myself, full fuel and 50 lbs in the back is fine. More trim and hold
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>>>lawn. Where was that mower? I saw it 21 months ago.... Randy
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean
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> Stephens
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>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:10 AM
>>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>>>
>>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
>>>
>>>Hey Randy, any more little tidbits of interesting info since the
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>>>Just wondering how things are going. Hope you are having a blast!
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>>>I just need a little "builder boost". :)
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>>>-Sean #40303 nearing end of flaps
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
lol....nice top hat Scott....
Rick S.
40185
Wings
Stuck at work...no OSH for me
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: N610RV News? |
DNA: do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: N610RV News? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
I too am interested.
Thanks, Jim Combs
#40192
N312F
Do Not Archive
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
--> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
Me too....
if we have a quorum... maybe we should keep it on list?
James
John Jessen wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
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>I'm interested as well. Please include me in your off list discussion...
>
>John Jessen
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
>Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 2:50 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
>I would love some more details (you can e-mail me off the list) of your
>system.
>
>Jesse Saint
>I-TEC, Inc.
>jesse@itecusa.org
>www.itecusa.org
>W: 352-465-4545
>C: 352-427-0285
>F: 815-377-3694
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick
>Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:46 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: N610RV News?
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
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>Tim,
>
>I have a 12" touch screen on the co-pilot side that will connect to a laptop
>stored on the right forward sidewall. Movies for the co-pilot, approach
>plates and taxi diagrams for the pilot at the touch of a finger. The screen
>will be switchable to the Blue Mountain EFIS display on the pilot's side.
>
>Thank You
>Rick Conti
>office: 703-414-6141
> cell: 571-215-6134
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--
There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself
at the ground and miss. Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'
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| Subject: | Rudder Pedal Cable Attach |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
I used his trim system on the Glasair III and it has worked well for 15
years. I was planning to get some for the RV10 as I was happy with
them.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Subject: RE: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
I don't have the info with me. I am actually near Oshkosh right now and
will be until the show (home is Florida). I will try to get the guy's
information at the show or after the show I can look it up at home for
those of you who won't be going to the show. We don't know how well
they will hold up, but we will let you know if something happens to
them.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gommone7@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach
--> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
Good morning Jessie can I have a web page or phone number of that trim
manufacturer you mention,I use them in our boats ,and the Ray Allen
where very scary when we dissy, for repair and thinks your life hang
from these oversize remote control planes servos. Thanks,Hugo
>
> From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
> Date: 2005/07/13 Wed PM 11:26:29 EDT
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> I will look for a link. The guy is always at Sun-N-Fun with a little
cheesy
> display and sometimes wears a hat with a little propeller on top. Not
very
> impressive display, but the trim is STC'd for a lot of different
> aircraft. All metal gears. Stop by and see N256H in the Home
> Builder's Parking area and you can see the installation (they haven't
> been finished up, but they are installed and working).
>
> Also, the Infinity control stick is awesome. I think they are at
> www.infinityaerospace.com and they will surely be at Oshkosh (a
450ish-pound
> guy with a control yoke and a throttle quadrant on the table at the
> front
of
> the booth).
>
> See ya'll at the show.
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> W: 352-465-4545
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:46 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Pedal Cable Attach
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Jesse,
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> Can you provide link or contact info for this?
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> Rick S.
> N246RS
> 40185
> Da Wings...waiting on Da Fuse...Sorry, in Chicago this week and next.
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s=s1024; d=yahoo.com;
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| Subject: | Ice Cream Social at OSH? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jack Sparling" <jhs_61@yahoo.com>
How about Wednesday night? I'm game!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Ice Cream Social at OSH?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Mike from Cleaveland Aircraft Tools (he's a -10 builder too)
would like to see if there's interest in an ice cream social
on something like Monday night at OSH. (or, another date if
a different one works better)
Any input?? You can email the list, or Mike at
mike@cleavelandtool.com
I told him I'd report back if there was interest and what
seemed to be the best date.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Ice Cream Social at OSH? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
I'd definitely be intersted but will not be there until sometime Thursday.
If it's on Thursday, Friday or Saturday count me in. If it's before that,
somebody eat a bowl for me. Have fun.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Ice Cream Social at OSH?
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Mike from Cleaveland Aircraft Tools (he's a -10 builder too)
> would like to see if there's interest in an ice cream social
> on something like Monday night at OSH. (or, another date if
> a different one works better)
>
> Any input?? You can email the list, or Mike at
> mike@cleavelandtool.com
>
> I told him I'd report back if there was interest and what
> seemed to be the best date.
>
> --
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Ice Cream Social at OSH? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
Sounds good. We'll have a van ifin people want to try to make it to the
drive-in. It'd have to be M-Th for us.
-Brian
Iowa City, IA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Ice Cream Social at OSH?
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Mike from Cleaveland Aircraft Tools (he's a -10 builder too)
> would like to see if there's interest in an ice cream social
> on something like Monday night at OSH. (or, another date if
> a different one works better)
>
> Any input?? You can email the list, or Mike at
> mike@cleavelandtool.com
>
> I told him I'd report back if there was interest and what
> seemed to be the best date.
>
> --
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Ice Cream Social at OSH? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
I fly in on Wednesday, Thursday, Fri, or Sat work for me
Mike Kraus
RV-4 flying
RV-10 hanger flying
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Ice Cream Social at OSH?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Mike from Cleaveland Aircraft Tools (he's a -10 builder too) would like
to see if there's interest in an ice cream social on something like
Monday night at OSH. (or, another date if a different one works better)
Any input?? You can email the list, or Mike at mike@cleavelandtool.com
I told him I'd report back if there was interest and what seemed to be
the best date.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Ice Cream Social at OSH? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
I fly in on Wednesday, Thursday, Fri, or Sat work for me
Mike Kraus
RV-4 flying
RV-10 hanger flying
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Ice Cream Social at OSH?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Mike from Cleaveland Aircraft Tools (he's a -10 builder too) would like
to see if there's interest in an ice cream social on something like
Monday night at OSH. (or, another date if a different one works better)
Any input?? You can email the list, or Mike at mike@cleavelandtool.com
I told him I'd report back if there was interest and what seemed to be
the best date.
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
Dan,
Sorry for being to simplistic. When I give numbers, unless it is stated
otherwise, it would be how fast we are actually moving through the air, as
well as we could figure. Sorry for nailing the pet peave on the head. That
would we true airspeed using a 4 direction average.
I will write a new e-mail with the subject for X-country stats because I
have those now for the trip from FL to WI.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: Re: RV10-List: N610RV News?
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> We've been getting number like 175mph (sorry for the statue numbers) at
> 9.5gph at 12,000 with no gear leg fairings. We've seen 175ish @ 8.5gph @
> 14,500. It likes high. We should get some good number on the trip to
Osh.
> Osh will be the first cross-country.
Is that GS? IAS? TAS? CAS?
4-way average? 3-way vector?
I *love* reading stats, just bugs me when they have no reference point!
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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I now have some good stats for a cross-country flight in an RV-10 with gear
fairings and wheel pants. For those who are keeping track, these numbers
are true airspeed as indicated both on the Dynon EFIS and a normal True
Airspeed indicator (steam gauge). We did not do any 4-way averaging because
the route to WI was direct with no 360 degree turns in the flight plan. The
flight that these numbers are from was from Birmingham, AL to Appleton, WI.
I think that was about 760 statute miles. Flying at 14,500 msl burning 8.5
gph cruising at around 190-200 mph with headwinds averaging 15-20 mph the
flight lasted about 4 hours and 45 minutes total.
Now that's some cross-country flying. I got the pleasure of driving 8 hours
/ day for 3 days and these guys get in the RV-10 (oh yeah, did I mention
that they were flying full gross - at take-off, of course) and make the
entire flight from FL (X35) in 7 hours with a stop in Birmingham taking them
out of the way a little.
N256H #40241
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
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