---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/20/05: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:34 AM - Re: "Pop" rivets on fuel tank "Z" brackets (John Erickson) 2. 02:28 AM - Re: "Pop" rivets on fuel tank "Z" brackets (Russell Daves) 3. 03:32 AM - Re: Throttle Quadrant Location (Russell Daves) 4. 04:58 AM - Van's trim kit (Tim Olson) 5. 05:00 AM - Re: Throttle Quadrant Location (Tim Olson) 6. 05:36 AM - Re: Van's trim kit (Rob Kermanj) 7. 06:07 AM - Re: Van's trim kit (Tim Olson) 8. 06:08 AM - Re: Van's trim kit () 9. 09:21 AM - Re: I really really want to build an airplane..... (John R. Lewis) 10. 10:11 AM - Pop rivets (John Hasbrouck) 11. 11:12 AM - Re: Throttle Quadrant Location (Eric Ison) 12. 01:08 PM - Re: Van's trim kit (Randy DeBauw) 13. 01:30 PM - Re: Throttle Quadrant Location (John Kirkland) 14. 03:03 PM - Re: Van's trim kit (Jesse Saint) 15. 04:26 PM - Re: Painting Windshield before Laying Glass (robert watson) 16. 06:19 PM - Re: Van's trim kit (Gary Specketer) 17. 06:19 PM - Re: Painting Windshield before Laying Glass (Gary Specketer) 18. 07:07 PM - Re: Van's trim kit (Jesse Saint) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:30 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: "Pop" rivets on fuel tank "Z" brackets From: "John Erickson" --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Erickson" John, I had the exact same thing happen. I'm positive it pulled properly, the shank just broke and inch to high. I haven't dealt with it yet, but I'm just going to cut it off and proseal over the hole if it leaks. John #40208 Fuel Tanks -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hasbrouck Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Pop" rivets on fuel tank "Z" brackets --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" --> Rick, Thanks for the reply. The rivet "pulled" the same as the rest and "popped" at the same time but didn't break at the rivet head so I think it's set. AC43.13 mentions self plugging rivets and talks about grinding and filing the shanks to finish them so that's what I did. Prosealed over rivet head and the leak check was OK. Ken at Van's says the cause is most likely the rivet tool but I hadn't had any problem before. Just thought I may have a bad batch of rivets but if nobody else is having this problem it probably is the tool. May get another pop rivet tool and try it on the right tank.......john ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:07 AM PST US From: "Russell Daves" Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Pop" rivets on fuel tank "Z" brackets --> RV10-List message posted by: "Russell Daves" I bought a $39.00 pneumatic pop rivet gun at Harbor Freight. Other than the $25.00 pneumatic cleco puller I bought at Yard Tools, it may be the best tool buy I have made. Not only will it pull the rivets in the Emp/Tailcone and wings but when you get to the floor panels on the fuselage it works even better because there are so very very many of them. Russ Daves ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick" Subject: Re: RV10-List: "Pop" rivets on fuel tank "Z" brackets > --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick > > Good deal, > > All mine popped off without a hitch. Looks like problem solved. One thing, > If anyone has one of those swivel head pop rivet pullers, put a big > screwdriver into the hole on the back side of the tool directly behind the > nose of the tool and make sure the screw that holds all the guts into the > tool is tight. Shoot some LPS 1 or 2 into that hole and make sure the > screw is tight. Mine flew came off while riveting the flaps, hit me in the > chest and I had to search for att he parts (5 little pieces I think) I > found the all and figured out how it went back together and managed to GET > it back together....took some head scratching. Afet talking to several > other builders it seems you should lube the mechanisim every once in > awhile and make sure that set screw is tight once in awhile...hmmmm wish I > had kept the instruction to see if I was negligent!!! either > way..consider yourself's informed. > > > Rick S. > 40185 > Wifuse > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:16 AM PST US From: "Russell Daves" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Throttle Quadrant Location --> RV10-List message posted by: "Russell Daves" The following website has a picture of the $287,000.00 RV-10 for sale that already has a throttle Quadrant installed for those interested. I am going to go with the Vernier Controls myself. http://www.mnwing.org/cgi-bin/WebObjects/mnwing.woa/wo/0.0.7.8.1.3.1.0 Scrol down to the bottom. Russ Daves ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" Subject: RV10-List: Throttle Quadrant Location > Is there anyone who's using the throttle quadrant who's heard > exactly where it mounts? Today I'm going to drill my > remaining holes in the panel for switches and want to make > sure the Throttle goes dead center on panel, right on the > same flange that the other type of controls would go. > I did call tech support, but, as you can see by my need > to ask this question of you, that was helpful. > > Thanks for any help you can give. I've attached a pic of > the panel with switch locations. I reduced it for the list, > but I have closeups, and switch template layouts on my > panel page that I did in visio. If you want to original > visio file, I can provide a link to that too. > -- > > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 > Current project: Fuselage > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:16 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: Van's trim kit --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Am I right that for our RV-10's, Van's doesn't sell us the standard trim kit for elevator trim, that comes with a rocker switch and indicator? I didn't see it on Randy's panel, didn't get one myself. I do see that there is one on the panel of N410RV. Is this something I overlooked? Randy, do you have one today (a trim indicator) or what did you do? Your panel install pics don't show one. Final paint and labels go on today, and instruments in later today. Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Current project: Fuselage DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:00 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Throttle Quadrant Location --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Hmmm, close. It's dead center, but the have that Lancair panel. Oh well, I think it's good. PS: Russ, I saw your panel with my own eyes yesterday. Looks good so far and is coming along. Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Current project: Fuselage DO NOT ARCHIVE Russell Daves wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Russell Daves" > > The following website has a picture of the $287,000.00 RV-10 for sale > that already has a throttle Quadrant installed for those interested. I > am going to go with the Vernier Controls myself. > > http://www.mnwing.org/cgi-bin/WebObjects/mnwing.woa/wo/0.0.7.8.1.3.1.0 > > Scrol down to the bottom. > > Russ Daves > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" > To: "RV10" > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:03 AM > Subject: RV10-List: Throttle Quadrant Location > > >> Is there anyone who's using the throttle quadrant who's heard >> exactly where it mounts? Today I'm going to drill my >> remaining holes in the panel for switches and want to make >> sure the Throttle goes dead center on panel, right on the >> same flange that the other type of controls would go. >> I did call tech support, but, as you can see by my need >> to ask this question of you, that was helpful. >> >> Thanks for any help you can give. I've attached a pic of >> the panel with switch locations. I reduced it for the list, >> but I have closeups, and switch template layouts on my >> panel page that I did in visio. If you want to original >> visio file, I can provide a link to that too. >> -- >> >> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 >> Current project: Fuselage >> >> DO NOT ARCHIVE >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:00 AM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: Van's trim kit --> RV10-List message posted by: Rob Kermanj My elevator trim servo, indicator and the rocker switch were missing from my kit. They are supposed to be included with your tail kit. I called van and they sent me a complete kit. On Jul 20, 2005, at 7:57 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > Am I right that for our RV-10's, Van's doesn't sell us > the standard trim kit for elevator trim, that comes with > a rocker switch and indicator? I didn't see it on > Randy's panel, didn't get one myself. I do see that there > is one on the panel of N410RV. Is this something I overlooked? > > Randy, do you have one today (a trim indicator) or what did > you do? Your panel install pics don't show one. > > Final paint and labels go on today, and instruments in later > today. > > Tim > > -- > > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 > Current project: Fuselage > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:18 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Van's trim kit --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Thanks Rob, You are correct. But, this time it was me. I found the box buried away. So, I do have the kit and you're right that it came with the tail kit. Tim Rob Kermanj wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Rob Kermanj > > My elevator trim servo, indicator and the rocker switch were missing > from my kit. They are supposed to be included with your tail kit. I > called van and they sent me a complete kit. > > > On Jul 20, 2005, at 7:57 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson >> >> Am I right that for our RV-10's, Van's doesn't sell us >> the standard trim kit for elevator trim, that comes with >> a rocker switch and indicator? I didn't see it on >> Randy's panel, didn't get one myself. I do see that there >> is one on the panel of N410RV. Is this something I overlooked? >> >> Randy, do you have one today (a trim indicator) or what did >> you do? Your panel install pics don't show one. >> >> Final paint and labels go on today, and instruments in later >> today. >> >> Tim >> >> -- >> >> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 >> Current project: Fuselage >> >> DO NOT ARCHIVE >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:03 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Van's trim kit I got the indicator and switch together with the Ray Allen Trim motor in the Empennage Kit. Lorenz Malmstrm #40280 Wings > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com] > Sent: Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2005 13:57 > To: RV10 > Subject: RV10-List: Van's trim kit > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > Am I right that for our RV-10's, Van's doesn't sell us > the standard trim kit for elevator trim, that comes with > a rocker switch and indicator? I didn't see it on > Randy's panel, didn't get one myself. I do see that there > is one on the panel of N410RV. Is this something I overlooked? > > Randy, do you have one today (a trim indicator) or what did > you do? Your panel install pics don't show one. > > Final paint and labels go on today, and instruments in later > today. > > Tim > > -- > > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 > Current project: Fuselage > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:53 AM PST US From: "John R. Lewis" Subject: RE: RV10-List: I really really want to build an airplane..... You've got me beat on the cuteness factor there! :-) _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Moon Subject: Re: RV10-List: I really really want to build an airplane..... I am just trying to get caught up on some e-mail, and after seeing thought I would confirm your possibility of "help". See the attached photo. I also have one of her and mommy riveting, but this one is much cuter. :) do not archive "John R. Lewis" wrote: Ohhh boy.... I thought I had the sickness bad before. I went to the EAA airshow up in Arlington, WA yesterday. After seeing the Vans line of experimental aircraft, my wife is totally on-board with the idea of building our own aircraft. It is a certainty that this will happen, probably in a couple of years. A few things in our lives need to be finished first before we can take on a project like this. Premature RV-Grin http://aspzone.com/photos/john/picture1244.aspx Rivet bucking help? http://aspzone.com/photos/john/picture1245.aspx --Shawn 40366 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:11:11 AM PST US From: "John Hasbrouck" Subject: RV10-List: Pop rivets --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" All, Thanks for the reply to my question about the AD42H rivet shanks. Looks like a non-issue. I pulled one in a test piece where I could watch it and now am sure the others are set. One to one and a half squeezes of the puller sets them fine and they are self plugging, no way they can leak if they're set. Just as an aside, I took Rick's advice and cleaned the pop tool. Found some grease had migrated onto the jaws and may have been the cause of the problem. Works fine now.....john John Hasbrouck #40264 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:12:12 AM PST US From: Eric Ison Subject: RE: RV10-List: Throttle Quadrant Location Linn, How does it compare to the grumman's in control? People speak of the RV Grin, and I am curious how that compares to the responsiveness of my tiger. At this point, I am a wannabee, but I want to make sure I am not surprised. Eric Ison Tiger 81041 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: Throttle Quadrant Location Mark, My son-in-law and I both took demo rides during Sun-N-Fun. The ride was too short, but I got to play a little with it. We blasted off in 410RV, using very little runway and climbed to altitude and headed nort, me as a captive passenger. We were in cruise configuration when I took the controls. The ailerons and elevator are heavy on full-speed-mode. The airplane is absolutely solid though, and if you're in the bumpy's, the heavy controls are more stable. I did some turns and then slowed her down to see how it would behave. The controls loosen up as the airplane slows down and is controllable way into the stall, which is really benign. The rudder is really effective fast or slow. Like you, I'd buy a kit whether or not I had flown one or not. My workshop is going up as we speak, and when I get it tricked out, I'll order my kit. I'll probably go with knobs instead of quadrant. I'll probably go for a glass panel and 'state of the art' avionics ... radios, GPS, and autopilot. I figure it'll take us close to 2 years to get her flying, and by then who know's what's going to be on the market! Hardest part is deciding on the parts going into the panel ..... and I'm grateful for those who have already made examples. Linn ...... Demo rides are too short!!! do not archive Mark & Kelly wrote: "I was at Van's last Friday and did the demo ride thing in N220RV" Hello All, This brings up a question that I have been wondering about for a while. For all of you 10 builders, how many of you actually have time in a 10 either as PIC or passenger? I am going to Oshkosh with the hopes of getting a chance to demo one of the demonstrators. If I can't, I will visit the factory for the ride. I have already decided on the 10, and from everyone's experience with the plane and it's performance, etc., I know it is the right choice. I was speaking to a friend / C-182 driver the other day & I told him I have decided to go with an RV10. The first thing he asked was "How does it fly?" I told him I haven't actually flown in one yet which he thought was a little strange! Thanks, Mark (Going with a 10 no matter what anyone says!) _____ Linn, How does it compare to the grumman's in control? People speak of the RV Grin, and I am curious how that compares to the responsiveness of my tiger. At this point, I am a wannabee, but I want to make sure I am not surprised. Eric Ison Tiger 81041

-----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn walters PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Throttle Quadrant Location

Mark, My son-in-law and I both took demo rides during Sun-N-Fun. The ride was too short, but I got to play a little with it. We blasted off in 410RV, using very little runway and climbed to altitude and headed nort, me as a captive passenger. We were in cruise configuration when I took the controls. The ailerons and elevator are heavy on full-speed-mode. The airplane is absolutely solid though, and if you're in the bumpy's, the heavy controls are more stable. I did some turns and then slowed her down to see how it would behave. The controls loosen up as the airplane slows down and is controllable way into the stall, which is really benign. The rudder is really effective fast or slow. Like you, I'd buy a kit whether or not I had flown one or not. My workshop is going up as we speak, and when I get it tricked out, I'll order my kit. I'll probably go with knobs instead of quadrant. I'll probably go for a glass panel and 'state of the art' avionics ... radios, GPS, and autopilot. I figure it'll take us close to 2 years to get her flying, and by then who know's what's going to be on the market! Hardest part is deciding on the parts going into the panel ..... and I'm grateful for those who have already made examples. Linn ...... Demo rides are too short!!! do not archive Mark Kelly wrote:

I was at Van's last Friday and did the demo ride thing in N220RV

Hello All,

This brings up a question that I have been wondering about for a while. For all of you 10 builders,how many of youactually have time in a 10 either as PIC or passenger? I am going to Oshkosh with the hopes of getting a chance to demo one of the demonstrators. If I can't, I will visit the factory for the ride. I have already decided on the 10, and from everyone's experience with the plane and it's performance, etc., I know it is the right choice. I was speaking to a friend / C-182 driver the other day I told him I have decided to go with an RV10. The first thing he asked was How does it fly? I told him I haven't actually flown in one yet which he thought was a little strange!

Thanks, Mark (Going with a 10 no matter what anyone says!) 











 






________________________________  Message 12  ____________________________________


Time: 01:08:36 PM PST US
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Van's trim kit
From: "Randy DeBauw" 

--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" 

The trim in N410RV is for the passenger to use since there is not one on
the stick.  I have one on both sticks.  Randy 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Van's trim kit

--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson 

Am I right that for our RV-10's, Van's doesn't sell us the standard trim
kit for elevator trim, that comes with a rocker switch and indicator?  I
didn't see it on
Randy's panel, didn't get one myself.   I do see that there
is one on the panel of N410RV.  Is this something I overlooked?

Randy, do you have one today (a trim indicator) or what did you do?
Your panel install pics don't show one.

Final paint and labels go on today, and instruments in later today.

Tim

-- 

Tim Olson -- RV-10  #40170
Current project: Fuselage

DO NOT ARCHIVE


________________________________  Message 13  ____________________________________


Time: 01:30:51 PM PST US
From: "John Kirkland" 
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Throttle Quadrant Location

--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Kirkland" 

All of my time, 400 hrs of it, is in Cessnas. I'm currently flying a C-182. 
I think we had around 700 lbs of people and about 2/3 tanks as I remember. 
Ken Scott did the flight. We didn't do a lot of stalls, steep turns, etc 
because my wife's stomach doesn't like maneuvering. So the turns were prety 
much standard rate stuff just to feel it a little bit. Ken demonstrated the 
only stall we did, I thought there quite a bit more buffet that could be 
felt prior to the stall than you get in a Cessna. It lets you know its going 
to stall way before it happens. Might call it "idiot-proof". Take-off tok 
about 700 ft, judged by watching the VASI lights. We started about 200 ft 
before the first one, were off abeam the second one. Once in the air, it 
took several seconds to pick up speed and start showing a climb, once 
stabilized it was 1000 fpm at 120ish. Mucho better than the C-182 with 
similar load. Ken didn't really fly it, he just nudged the stick with the 
back of his hand now and then to keep it pointed in the right direction. I 
can be easily flown with a single fingertip. You don't need to "grab" the 
stick. It remains rock solid stable for many seconds without touching, so 
you can refold a sectional chart, look up an airport in the Flight Guide, 
etc, and the plane will behave itself. The C-182 likes to wander off on its 
own while doing these things. Didn't see a need for rudder trim, I wondered 
about that myself. C-182 has it & I use it there. Wish the C-172 had it for 
climbs since they take soooo loonnngggg. I think Ken pooched the landing 
though, when we turned on final I think we were still at pattern altitude, 
no flaps out yet, can't remember the speed. I kept my mouth shut and let the 
PIC fly the plane. We landed long, floated a long time in the flare, and 
rolled out at the far end of the runway. Boy I really missed that Cessna 
nose wheel shimmy (NOT!) on rollout. Almost wish my wife had stayed on the 
ground, but her buy-in to this project is essential. 

John
#40333 

Bobby J. Hughes writes: 

> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bobby J. Hughes"  
> 
> John, 
> 
> How did the small engine RV10 perform? 
> 
> Bobby Hughes
> 40116 Fus  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Kirkland
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 2:36 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Throttle Quadrant Location 
> 
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Kirkland" 
> -->  
> 
> ... I was at
> Van's last Friday and did the demo ride thing in N220RV...  
> 
> John Kirkland
> #40333 


________________________________  Message 14  ____________________________________


Time: 03:03:34 PM PST US
From: "Jesse Saint" 
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Van's trim kit

--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" 

I think we got the indicator and the rocker switch with our trim kit.  We
scrapped the switch and went with a toggle on the right side of the panel
and we use the coolie hat in the pilot's stick grip.  We didn't like the
idea of cutting a square hole in the panel and having a switch that looked
so much different from the rest.  The switch we have in now is a cheap Radio
Shack one, but it is in a round hole and can be easily changed.  We got the
Ray Allen servo relay deck for using the stick grip with the trims (all
three) and they work great.

See ya'll at Osh.  We're getting in on Friday with a borrowed motor home and
will be there most of the week.  Our -10 will get there on Saturday or
Sunday and will be there until Wednesday or Thursday.

Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Van's trim kit

--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson 

Am I right that for our RV-10's, Van's doesn't sell us
the standard trim kit for elevator trim, that comes with
a rocker switch and indicator?  I didn't see it on
Randy's panel, didn't get one myself.   I do see that there
is one on the panel of N410RV.  Is this something I overlooked?

Randy, do you have one today (a trim indicator) or what did
you do?  Your panel install pics don't show one.

Final paint and labels go on today, and instruments in later
today.

Tim

-- 

Tim Olson -- RV-10  #40170
Current project: Fuselage

DO NOT ARCHIVE


________________________________  Message 15  ____________________________________


Time: 04:26:08 PM PST US
From: robert watson 
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Painting Windshield before Laying Glass
DNA: do not archive
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________________________________  Message 16  ____________________________________


Time: 06:19:55 PM PST US
From: "Gary Specketer" 
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Van's trim kit

--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" 

Would you like us to save you a spot next to ours.  We are getting in
tomorrow pm. Then the -10 people could be close 
My phone is 770-403-3450 and you could call me when you arrive and I
could direct you.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Van's trim kit


--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" 

I think we got the indicator and the rocker switch with our trim kit.
We scrapped the switch and went with a toggle on the right side of the
panel and we use the coolie hat in the pilot's stick grip.  We didn't
like the idea of cutting a square hole in the panel and having a switch
that looked so much different from the rest.  The switch we have in now
is a cheap Radio Shack one, but it is in a round hole and can be easily
changed.  We got the Ray Allen servo relay deck for using the stick grip
with the trims (all
three) and they work great.

See ya'll at Osh.  We're getting in on Friday with a borrowed motor home
and will be there most of the week.  Our -10 will get there on Saturday
or Sunday and will be there until Wednesday or Thursday.

Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Van's trim kit

--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson 

Am I right that for our RV-10's, Van's doesn't sell us
the standard trim kit for elevator trim, that comes with
a rocker switch and indicator?  I didn't see it on
Randy's panel, didn't get one myself.   I do see that there
is one on the panel of N410RV.  Is this something I overlooked?

Randy, do you have one today (a trim indicator) or what did
you do?  Your panel install pics don't show one.

Final paint and labels go on today, and instruments in later today.

Tim

-- 

Tim Olson -- RV-10  #40170
Current project: Fuselage

DO NOT ARCHIVE


________________________________  Message 17  ____________________________________


Time: 06:19:59 PM PST US
From: "Gary Specketer" 
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Painting Windshield before Laying Glass

You can also mix in tonner from any copy machine and it works great.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of robert watson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Painting Windshield before Laying Glass


--> RV10-List message posted by: robert watson 
if you want black mix in actavated charcoal with epoxy it works and
looks great no paint problems. did this to mine and looks great all the
way around no ugly. Bob Watson 194BN


-----Original Message----- 
From: DejaVu 
Subject: RV10-List: Painting Windshield before Laying Glass 


I've started to lay up the glass at the bottom of the windshield when I
realized that it looks pretty ugly looking out from the inside.  I have
forgotten to paint it before laying the glass.  I'm about 0.5" into the
plexi and will need to go about 1.5" more.  What paint do people use on
plexi?  Any worries of the glass sticking to the paint vice the plexi?
Any suggestion for remedies on the 0.5" at the bottom that I have
already laid up the glass?  Paint the inside?  That will be a
challenging masking job.
Anh
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Time: 07:07:27 PM PST US
From: "Jesse Saint" 
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Van's trim kit

--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" 

Yes please save us a spot.  I'll be there Friday with the motorhome and my
dad will be flying in on Saturday with the -10.  I will try to hook up with
you on Friday or Saturday.  My cell phone is at the bottom of this e-mail.
We have the sign in the plane to get to the Home Built Parking, and were
told by the guys at Van's to just ask to be put with the RV-10's, so if
there are any other instructions, please let me know and I will pass that on
to my dad.

Thanks.

N256H

Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Specketer
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Van's trim kit

--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" 

Would you like us to save you a spot next to ours.  We are getting in
tomorrow pm. Then the -10 people could be close 
My phone is 770-403-3450 and you could call me when you arrive and I
could direct you.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Van's trim kit


--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" 

I think we got the indicator and the rocker switch with our trim kit.
We scrapped the switch and went with a toggle on the right side of the
panel and we use the coolie hat in the pilot's stick grip.  We didn't
like the idea of cutting a square hole in the panel and having a switch
that looked so much different from the rest.  The switch we have in now
is a cheap Radio Shack one, but it is in a round hole and can be easily
changed.  We got the Ray Allen servo relay deck for using the stick grip
with the trims (all
three) and they work great.

See ya'll at Osh.  We're getting in on Friday with a borrowed motor home
and will be there most of the week.  Our -10 will get there on Saturday
or Sunday and will be there until Wednesday or Thursday.

Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Van's trim kit

--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson 

Am I right that for our RV-10's, Van's doesn't sell us
the standard trim kit for elevator trim, that comes with
a rocker switch and indicator?  I didn't see it on
Randy's panel, didn't get one myself.   I do see that there
is one on the panel of N410RV.  Is this something I overlooked?

Randy, do you have one today (a trim indicator) or what did
you do?  Your panel install pics don't show one.

Final paint and labels go on today, and instruments in later today.

Tim

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Tim Olson -- RV-10  #40170
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