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1. 05:20 AM - Re: Re: Trim Cable Brackets (Ned)
2. 08:12 AM - Re: Trim Cable Brackets (Chris Johnston)
3. 11:58 AM - Re: Trim Cable Brackets (James Hein)
4. 01:13 PM - Re: Trim Cable Brackets (William Curtis)
5. 06:40 PM - Re: Trim Cable Brackets (Jesse Saint)
6. 06:48 PM - Update from OSH (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
7. 07:47 PM - Re: Update from OSH (Jesse Saint)
8. 08:00 PM - Re: Update from OSH (John Hasbrouck)
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Trim Cable Brackets |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Ned" <923te@cox.net>
There are several alloys of stainless steel that are magnetic
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
>
> Take a magnet to either the nut or the plate. They are both supposed to
> be stainless, if the magnet attaches to one of the pieces then it was
> not stainless....
>
> I had 4 of these in 2 kits.... 1 was all stainless and you could not
> break it, 3 had a ferrous steel plate and you could bend it and it would
> break shortly thereafter... I called Van's, they seemed surprised to
> hear this, but had no problem sending me free replacements.... I think
> you should all check yours out.
> -Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Panning
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:57 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: RE: Trim Cable Brackets
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning
> --> <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
>
>
> I had one of the nuts break off and I picked up two replacements from
> Van's. The new ones are double welded (both sides of the nut edge) and
> seem much stronger. The original ones were welded only on one edge of
> the nut in a thin line.
>
> I have not replaced them yet but will be investigating attaching via nut
> plates instead of rivets. Van's thought this was ok when I talked to
> them - provided there is enough room (attach plate area is small)
>
> I recall they also mentioned that you can rotate it in
> place with the nut riveted to the access panel but
> only by a bend in the control cable to the limits.
>
> If you build another solution, I suggest leaving space
> for nut plates to attach - This would make it much
> easier to adjust during rigging and also for future
> tweaking or inspection.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Trim Cable Brackets |
After all the discussion about K-1000 and K-1100, I'm curious how
everyone knows which is which? They are both -6 nutplates right?
What's the difference?
cj
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DejaVu
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trim Cable Brackets
I can imagine it would easy to mistaken K-1000 with K-1100, especially
if you look at these numbers all day long. My replacement also came in
error. So it took 3 times to get the correct ones.
Anh
#141
(on gear)
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris , Susie McGough <mailto:VHMUM@bigpond.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trim Cable Brackets
Interesting my bag had the same ...my number is 388. I don't now
why they call for pops there but on the elevators they also call for
pops where the counterweight skins contacts the main elevator skins.
Don't know why as they are easy to access.
Chris
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: James Hein <mailto:n8vim@arrl.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Trim Cable Brackets
Is there any reason as to why they specift blind rivets
on page 9-15, step 7 ?? It would seem like a good place for normal
rivets, since you can get to both sides very easily.
=09
-Jim 40384, Waiting on receiving K1100-06 nutplates (My
kit came with K1000-06 in the bag for K1100-06, but Van's is sending
replacements )
=09
(Picture attached)
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| Subject: | RE: Trim Cable Brackets |
>After all the discussion about K-1000 and K-1100, I'm curious how
>everyone knows which is which? They are both -6 nutplates right?
>What's the difference?
K-1100s are countersink platenuts and K-1000 are not. While the numbers are similar,
they are clearly different in appearance. K-1100 are typically used on
dimpled skins. K-1000s are typically used where there is no need for flush.
If the material you are working with is thick enough however, I guess you could
use a K-1000 with a countersinked hole.
William
#40237 - wings
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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| Subject: | Trim Cable Brackets |
I think the difference is that the 1100's are for a dimpled hole so they are
shaped to accept that. The 1000's are for a hole that will either be
countersunk or not use a flush screw.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trim Cable Brackets
After all the discussion about K-1000 and K-1100, I'm curious how everyone
knows which is which? They are both -6 nutplates right? What's the
difference?
cj
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DejaVu
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trim Cable Brackets
I can imagine it would easy to mistaken K-1000 with K-1100, especially if
you look at these numbers all day long. My replacement also came in error.
So it took 3 times to get the correct ones.
Anh
#141
(on gear)
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From: Chris , Susie McGough <mailto:VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trim Cable Brackets
Interesting my bag had the same ...my number is 388. I don't now why they
call for pops there but on the elevators they also call for pops where the
counterweight skins contacts the main elevator skins. Don't know why as they
are easy to access.
Chris
Chris
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From: James Hein <mailto:n8vim@arrl.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Trim Cable Brackets
Is there any reason as to why they specift blind rivets on page 9-15, step 7
?? It would seem like a good place for normal rivets, since you can get to
both sides very easily.
-Jim 40384, Waiting on receiving K1100-06 nutplates (My kit came with
K1000-06 in the bag for K1100-06, but Van's is sending replacements )
(Picture attached)
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Doesn't seem to be much traffic on the email list so I thought I'd pass
along a few interesting things I found out today for those that are here
yet or couldn't make it at all.
- ECI says it will be about this time next year before their 540 clone
is ready to go.
- Wentworth appears to have a few mid-time (400-900 SMOH) parallel valve
O & IO-540s priced in the $14,500-$16,000 range listed for sale at their
booth.
I purchased my engine through them last summer - was exactly
as advertised. No other connection, just passing along info.
- ECI has a fuel injection system to compete with Precision and AFP -
they say it will be lower cost. Ready late this year.
- Precision has a FADEC engine management system that will be out late
this year or very early next year.
There's a seminar on this later this week that I will
attend.
It replaces the fuel and ignition systems (no mixture lever)
Supposed to also have ability to control the prop governor -
won't be on initial product release though
- Stein has his own version of a composite panel that he'll be producing
at about 1/3 the cost of the AeroCraft (and without the hassles!)
Price will be ~$1000
Available this fall?
You'll be able to buy and wire yourself or have him do
everything
At the moment only the panel portion is worked out - the
armrest part will come next
- Tim your panel looks great! Stein has yours and another sitting in
his booth. Nice opportunity to see the triple Chelton displays triple
GRT displays side by side.
Builder meeting at 10:30 by the RV-10s worked out great - several of us
were there along with some prospective builders. We talked for quite a
while and then took a walk over to look at the 3 customer build -10s
that are here so far.
And for those that missed it, I've attached a picture of the SpaceShip
One arrival for inspiration!
Bob #40105
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Bob,
Thanks for the info. Lycoming's guy will be there tomorrow with the
information on their experimental 540.
Superior said that they do not have and have no plans to have an
experimental 540 like they have the 360.
My comment about meeting builders at the Van's tent is that there are so
many people that it is hard to know who else is a -10 builder. I have an
RV-10 shirt, but can really only wear it 1 day (or 2 at the most). I guess
we will just have to manage this way as well as we can. The ice cream
social tomorrow night should help us to recognize faces a little better. We
have had a few people come by the motor homes, but not many. I sounds like
Tim is going to be pitching a tent right here next to us as well, so that
puts 3 builders together.
On Space Ship 1, I got the privilege of taking a friend to the dentist about
30 minutes before it came in and I got back about 30 minutes after it came
in. Perfect timing to miss one of the things I was looking forward to this
week. I guess a picture of it sitting there will have to do.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US
SSA)
Subject: RV10-List: Update from OSH
Doesn't seem to be much traffic on the email list so I thought I'd pass
along a few interesting things I found out today for those that are here yet
or couldn't make it at all.
- ECI says it will be about this time next year before their 540 clone is
ready to go.
- Wentworth appears to have a few mid-time (400-900 SMOH) parallel valve O &
IO-540s priced in the $14,500-$16,000 range listed for sale at their booth.
I purchased my engine through them last summer - was exactly as
advertised. No other connection, just passing along info.
- ECI has a fuel injection system to compete with Precision and AFP - they
say it will be lower cost. Ready late this year.
- Precision has a FADEC engine management system that will be out late this
year or very early next year.
There's a seminar on this later this week that I will attend.
It replaces the fuel and ignition systems (no mixture lever)
Supposed to also have ability to control the prop governor -
won't be on initial product release though
- Stein has his own version of a composite panel that he'll be producing at
about 1/3 the cost of the AeroCraft (and without the hassles!)
Price will be ~$1000
Available this fall?
You'll be able to buy and wire yourself or have him do
everything
At the moment only the panel portion is worked out - the armrest
part will come next
- Tim your panel looks great! Stein has yours and another sitting in his
booth. Nice opportunity to see the triple Chelton displays triple GRT
displays side by side.
Builder meeting at 10:30 by the RV-10s worked out great - several of us were
there along with some prospective builders. We talked for quite a while and
then took a walk over to look at the 3 customer build -10s that are here so
far.
And for those that missed it, I've attached a picture of the SpaceShip One
arrival for inspiration!
Bob #40105
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| Subject: | Re: Update from OSH |
Bob,
I'm one of those who couldn't make it to OSH this year and I appreciate the
updates. You're right, the e-mail list is a little quiet. Sounds like some
interesting things in development, glad I'm a little behind the " early adopters
" for once my timing may be just right!
John Hasbrouck
#40264
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