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1. 04:23 AM - Re: My OSH Apparrel (Rob Kermanj)
2. 07:53 AM - Re: Riveting canopy to side skins (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
3. 02:47 PM - Rudder help (Mark Drury)
4. 03:15 PM - Re: Rudder help (Byron Gillespie)
5. 03:29 PM - Re: Rudder help (Chris , Susie McGough)
6. 03:36 PM - Re: Rudder help (John Jessen)
7. 07:25 PM - Re: Anyone think about speed brakes? (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
8. 07:53 PM - Attaching pictures (Chris , Susie McGough)
9. 08:22 PM - Re: Attaching pictures (Rick)
10. 08:26 PM - Re: Anyone think about speed brakes? (Rick)
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| Subject: | Re: My OSH Apparrel |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rob Kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
www.beagleaviation.com has made up two RV10 logos. The logos are not
posted on their site but I know they have them. Wait after oshkosh and
contact them if you do not want to pay a lot of setup fees.
On Jul 22, 2005, at 11:12 AM, Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
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> Along these lines, if you paid the digital setup fee for the design, I
> would be willing to chip in if you gave me access the file, as is the
> guy here wants $150 setup fee, but if there is enough interest we could
> use your contact and help off set your setup fee based on reusing it
> and
> changing colors.
> Thoughts?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Denk
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:57 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: My OSH Apparrel
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
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>> I just got my shirts back that my wife and I will be wearing to OSH.
>> We took the paint scheme and had an embroidery pattern made up and
>> just got our box full of shirts back today.
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>> So, when you're looking for us, you'll be able to recognize us.
>> Here's a couple of photos...there are more shirts than are in
>> the photos though.
>>
>> --
>> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
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> Terrific looking shirts! My wife just walked by and sez, "ooh, those
> are
> nice". So, keep the data file handy. I might need it someday.
>
> Brian Denk
> RV8 N94BD
> RV10 '51
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| Subject: | Riveting canopy to side skins |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@mail.sprint.com>
You could also ask Van's if soft 426AD4 rivets could be used.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Riveting canopy to side skins
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I did get a note from Ken Scott at Van's regarding the solid
rivets....
"IF the driven rivets are set and there's no apparent damage to the
fiberglass, there's no reason to replace them."
So, from the sounds of it, their main worry would be during
installation. I don't see any cracking. I used -6 rivets,
and didn't overdrive them. I tried to drive them normally,
or on the light side, and not distort the aluminum backing
strip. So hopefully that would have minimized any complications.
I'm not sure what I'll do with the rearward ones, rearward of
the rear seatbacks. I may use CS4-4's on those, or I may just
use the same AN426AD4-6's....still on the edge. The 426's
sure would look nicer than that ugly pulled head, and then
I wouldn't have stem holes to fill.
Anh also knows a guy who had another great idea....use some
proseal along that joint. They have you do it on the canopy
top, but not the bottom. Seems that it would make sense there
as well. I know proseal sucks, but leaks would REALLY suck.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DejaVu wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
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> A friend in Canada used solid rivets in these areas. I don't know
about
> structural integrity but it is quite nice. Take it for what it is
worth.
> Anh
> #141
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: "RV10" <RV10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:47 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Riveting canopy to side skins
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>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
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>>I had some ok progress this weekend and ended up beginning the
>>permanent install of the cabin cover. The plans called for
>>CS4-4 "Typ" (Typical) for the rivets holding the top to
>>the side skins. I couldn't think of any reason you wouldn't
>>be able to use AN426AD4-6 rivets instead, other than possibly
>>worrying about cracking your fiberglass.
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>>Did anyone else substitute the CS4-4's? What's your thinking?
>>I did end up using the AN426AD4-6's right below the windows
>>in the rear seats, but stopped after that. If there's any
>>structural problem, I figured I had better allow to at
>>least put CS4-4's on the back half of the canopy if necessary,
>>since just having those in that location should prevent
>>anything major.
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>>But, it ain't too late to drill them and pop them either.
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>>Tim
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>>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
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Just wondering if you guys can give me some clues on this one. R1004A and B form
the bottom rib of the rudder and are joined with an overlap. When I cleco the
skins on the rudder framework the holes in the skin won't line up with the holes
in R1004 because of the overlap. If I force the holes to line up it twists
R1004 to the point that there is no way I could get a rivet in there. Do the
holes need to be drilled to #30 and larger rivets used? What's the solution?
Thanks
Mark Drury
Cairns, Australia
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d="scan'208,217"; a="1362853087:sNHT25120492"
Mark:
Are you sure that you have "B" on top of "A" (fig 7-4 figure 1)? If I
remember correctly, the holes on B are located in a different plane than
the holes on A - to compensate for mating on the web of A. If backwards,
the holes are then offset such that they will not align correctly. Other
than that - not sure.. Hope that is the problem - then, its an easy
fix:-)
Byron
South Georgia
Almost ready to attach tail to fuselage. # 40253
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Drury
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder help
Just wondering if you guys can give me some clues on this one. R1004A
and B form the bottom rib of the rudder and are joined with an overlap.
When I cleco the skins on the rudder framework the holes in the skin
won't line up with the holes in R1004 because of the overlap. If I force
the holes to line up it twists R1004 to the point that there is no way I
could get a rivet in there. Do the holes need to be drilled to #30 and
larger rivets used? What's the solution?
Thanks
Mark Drury
Cairns, Australia
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Mark I have just done this and all lined up. Check that all the other ribs are
orientated corectly as if you have them on each other incorectly then the problem
you have discribed will happen...
Feel free to ring me Melbourne Aus 03 84053635 0409882215
regards Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Drury
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:48 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder help
Just wondering if you guys can give me some clues on this one. R1004A and B form
the bottom rib of the rudder and are joined with an overlap. When I cleco
the skins on the rudder framework the holes in the skin won't line up with the
holes in R1004 because of the overlap. If I force the holes to line up it twists
R1004 to the point that there is no way I could get a rivet in there. Do the
holes need to be drilled to #30 and larger rivets used? What's the solution?
Thanks
Mark Drury
Cairns, Australia
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d="jpg'145?scan'145,208,145,217"; a="67475909:sNHT1004486830"
Well, I've just finished almost the entire rudder and I know that I did not
have this problem. I also am on a business trip, so don't have the plans,
nor am I at the shop, obviously, so cannot quite remember exactly how things
looked. I do recall that the rivets for joining the A and B are #4's, so
you would us a #30. When I assembled the skins to the skeleton, it went on
just right, so take a good look at the how the A and B are clecoed together.
I've attached three pictures that might be helpful.
John
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Drury
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder help
Just wondering if you guys can give me some clues on this one. R1004A and B
form the bottom rib of the rudder and are joined with an overlap. When I
cleco the skins on the rudder framework the holes in the skin won't line up
with the holes in R1004 because of the overlap. If I force the holes to line
up it twists R1004 to the point that there is no way I could get a rivet in
there. Do the holes need to be drilled to #30 and larger rivets used? What's
the solution?
Thanks
Mark Drury
Cairns, Australia
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| Subject: | Anyone think about speed brakes? |
Yeah, a window would be nice, too, for times like when I had to lean out of a 152
and toss my cookies . . . : (
TDT
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Anyone think about speed brakes?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I wasn't thinking of speed brakes, but tonight on the way home
when I tossed out an apple core from 4500' over the forest,
I started thinking up ways I could build in bomb doors. ;)
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
James Hein wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
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> Has anyone thought about adding speed brakes like what are on the mooneys?
>
> -Jim 40384 (Still waiting for those nutplates!)
>
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| Subject: | Attaching pictures |
Hi Guys just wondering if when we put pictures on the list we can send them small
as 3-4-5 meg pictures is rediculous to download when you are on dialup!! Most
pics can be sent 30 - 40 k.
Absolutely not meant to offend anyone just trying to stop some frustration as we
do not need magazine quality pictures.
Regards Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Attaching pictures |
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| Subject: | Anyone think about speed brakes? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Lol....
I highly recommend that weapons delivery systems for the RV-10 be kept to private
E-mails, it's bad enogh we some of us refer to ourselfs as "Vans Airforce".
All in jest.
Rick S.
40185
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