RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 07/29/05


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:05 AM - Re: Anyone think about speed brakes? (Dj Merrill)
     2. 07:12 AM - Re: Anyone think about speed brakes? (BPA)
     3. 11:44 AM - Re: Anyone think about speed brakes? (Marcus Cooper)
     4. 02:11 PM - Giving kudos when deserved (John Jessen)
     5. 02:21 PM - Oshkosh info (stevenflys1@juno.com)
     6. 05:32 PM - Just back from Osh. (Randy DeBauw)
     7. 09:23 PM - N410RV Demo Ride PIREP (Brian Sponcil)
     8. 09:27 PM - Re: Attaching pictures (Brian Sponcil)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:05:33 AM PST US
    From: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
    Subject: Re: Anyone think about speed brakes?
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu> Would the "relief tube" be considered chemical weapon deployment? *wink* do not archive -Dj


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    Time: 07:12:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Anyone think about speed brakes?
    From: "BPA" <BPA@bpaengines.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "BPA" <BPA@BPAENGINES.COM> Don't know about that, but I think you could qualify as an Ag operator! -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dj Merrill Subject: Re: RV10-List: Anyone think about speed brakes? --> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu> Would the "relief tube" be considered chemical weapon deployment? *wink* do not archive -Dj


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    Time: 11:44:36 AM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Anyone think about speed brakes?
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net> FWIW it never crossed my mind to need speed brakes in my RV-6. I had a constant speed prop and going high RPM does a pretty effective job of slowing you down and I would suspect the RV-10 would behave similar. If not, you can always use the excuse of having to bleed off airspeed to justify your high-G break turn on initial! Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein Subject: RV10-List: Anyone think about speed brakes? --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net> Has anyone thought about adding speed brakes like what are on the mooneys? -Jim 40384 (Still waiting for those nutplates!)


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    Time: 02:11:05 PM PST US
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    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Giving kudos when deserved
    Just a quick plug for Avery, and by extension to all the other tool suppliers who have a high standard of service. I hadn't used my pneumatic squeezer for several years. When I picked it up again for use on the RV-10, it just didn't have the right oomph. Finally it began failing altogether. It was purchased in 2000. Called Avery and they said it would cost whatever to fix it. Sent it. Bob Avery called to go over the procedure. Then called to tell me what he found it needed, which was essentially a once over and the replacement of several parts which were either missing or worn. I said have at it. Called me again to say it was done and being shipped. Got here all nice and almost new. Inside the box was a note. Bob explained what he'd done, then explained that it was "no charge." I have no association with Avery or other tool suppliers, such as Cleveland. I spread my purchases around based on price and recommendation from other builders. But I do think it's important for us as a group to recognize job well done, going the extra mile, and so on. Not just for Avery, but for all those who try hard to deliver good products and services. Thanks, Bob. Nice job. John Jessen #40328. Rudder.


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    Time: 02:21:49 PM PST US
    From: "stevenflys1@juno.com" <stevenflys1@juno.com>
    Subject: Oshkosh info
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "stevenflys1@juno.com" <stevenflys1@juno.com> Hello All, Unfortunately the rug was yanked out from under me this morning for my trip to Oshkosh. The person covering my call today had a family emergency and left town. Oh well. Anyone attending Oshkosh: any new information from Deltahawk engines about their 200 HP or 300 HP light engines? Any new news about Eggenfellnar's RV-10 engine? Any updates about engines, avionics, or RV-10's from Oshkosh would be appreciated! Thanks, Steven Morris Wannabe builder Do not archive


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    Time: 05:32:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Just back from Osh.
    From: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
    I just returned 2 hours ago from Oshkosh and all went well. My wife and I spent the night in Helena Mt. and flew in the final leg this morning. What a traveling machine. I think in the 2900 hundred mile trip I only had the stick in my hand for 1 =BD hours. The rest of the time it was being flown by the Digiflight II. I have the numbers that will be announced on my speed and some speeds from N410RV. The latest numbers for Vans plane is 208 mph One other builders numbers (can't remember who) were also 208 mph. Mine was only 198. Ken Kruger talked to me at Oshkosh and gave me the numbers. It was his thought that I may have a rigging problem with the ailerons. He was spot on. When we were flying back from Oshkosh I had plenty of time to inspect the alignment of the flaps and ailerons. The ailerons are =BC" or more low when the flaps are fully in the up position. I must not of had the flap all of the way up when I originally set the aileron alignment. Well I have already talk with Ken since I have gotten back and he said that it was a guess on his part but was glad to hear it was an easy fix. I will fly with him again after the adjustments are made and post the new speeds. By the way that was at 8000 ft adjusted altitude and 75 percent power. The fuel burn at the setting is about 19.2 gph. When we flew to and from Oshkosh I would say we averaged about 12.5 gph. And flew between 9500 and 13500 all the way. At 13500 we were burning about 10.5 gph. I wish I was still there. We had to come home for our 30th. High School Reunion. Randy Ps. Thanks Tim and Andrea for the nice time. Randy and Cheryl DeBauw


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    Time: 09:23:39 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
    Subject: N410RV Demo Ride PIREP
    My wife and I took a demo ride in 410RV at OSH Wednesday morning. Here are a few impressions and notes from the ride. 1. If you have another option, don't take your demo ride at OSH. It's 40 minutes of taxi followed by a 10 minutes circle around lake Winnebago. Obviously Oregon is the best place but Sun-n-Fun would have been a better option IMHO. 2. Ken (Scott?) is not the greatest guy to take a ride with. He was quite visibly annoyed to have to give demo rides which doesn't do much for potential customers. It probably doesn't matter as demand for the kit is already high. Still, if I had been on the fence it would have swayed me the other way. 3. The engine sounded much like my friend's PA-28-235, very throaty. Of course they're nearly the same engine so that's not surprising. 4. Takeoff roll is VERY short. With 3 of us and presumably full tanks we were off in just a few hundred feet. 5. Climb rates of ~2000 fpm were pretty easy to achieve with just the 3 of us. 6. Controlling the plane via stick was very natural and the stick forces seemed well balanced. My buddy's Glasair has a pretty firm stick and is, at least to me, somewhat annoying. It takes some effort to move the stick and yet even the slightest movement turns into a 15 degree bank. I'm sure you'd get used to that but the RV10 just seemed a bit more pleasing. 7. Roll rate is pretty impressive for a 4 seat X-Country machine. Without much warning from Ken, we went 60 degrees left and then 60 degress right in the span of a second or two. Although this did little to impress the wife or myself, I bet it'd take the Warrior about 5-6 seconds to accomplish the same task. I'm sure the 7s and 8s are quicker but the 10 will do fine if you just want to scare your non-flying buddies. 8. The plane shakes like a wet dog at the stall. There's just no way you could mistake that for anything else. Also, despite what Sport Aviation says, the nose was pretty high. At the break, the plane fell through straight and recovery was a non-event. 9. I didn't get much out of the landing as he came in at 85-90MPH and held the nose off the ground for what seemed like 1500 feet. I asked him about it and Ken said he wouldn't normally land so hot but wanted to get back to the drop off point quickly. About the only thing I could say is that my Warrior would have started a slight porpoise landing that fast. 10. All in all a great plane for its mission and not much more than a Archer or a Dakota. Well, those are what I remember. Take them for what they are: non-scientific observations from a doofus. As someone else on this list says "your milage may vary." -Brian Iowa City, IA


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    Time: 09:27:02 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
    Subject: Re: Attaching pictures
    I went into Member Village as was able to attach to their wireless. Not at great speeds (1 or 2 Mbs) but it beat dialing in late at night or waiting in line. -Brian Iowa City, IA ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 10:22 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Attaching pictures --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick Chris, What's the time frame for getting broadband internet service in Oz???




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