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1. 12:20 AM - Re: Exterior lighting choices - followup (DejaVu)
2. 12:21 AM - Re: Exterior lighting choices - followup (DejaVu)
3. 12:24 AM - Re: Exterior lighting choices - followup (DejaVu)
4. 01:50 AM - Re: Re: Cold air induction????? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
5. 01:50 AM - Re: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 01:50 AM - Re: MT Propeller Controller (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
7. 06:45 AM - Compressor needs (LIKE2LOOP@AOL.COM)
8. 06:59 AM - Re: Compressor needs ()
9. 08:26 AM - Re: GrandRapids EFIS (Russell Daves)
10. 08:44 AM - Re: Compressor needs (Dj Merrill)
11. 09:33 AM - Re: GrandRapids EFIS (Tim Olson)
12. 09:38 AM - Re: Compressor needs (Tim Olson)
13. 10:38 AM - Re: Fw: Important Wash D.C. ADIZ update (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
14. 10:38 AM - Re: The 12th 10 (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
15. 10:38 AM - Re: Pnuematic Squeezer (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
16. 10:38 AM - Re: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
17. 04:40 PM - Re: Pnuematic Squeezer (Rob Hunter)
18. 04:58 PM - Re: Pnuematic Squeezer (Jeff Carpenter)
19. 05:05 PM - Rudder (Rob Hunter)
20. 05:22 PM - Re: Rudder (James Hein)
21. 06:02 PM - RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
22. 07:22 PM - Re: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy (Jesse Saint)
23. 08:05 PM - Re: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy (Dj Merrill)
24. 08:25 PM - Help Crack on Aleron Gap Faring (Larry Rosen)
25. 08:33 PM - Re: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy (Tim Olson)
26. 08:50 PM - Re: Help Crack on Aleron Gap Faring (Tim Olson)
27. 08:58 PM - Re: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy (JOHN STARN)
28. 09:36 PM - Cutting Spinner to Go Over the Prop (DejaVu)
29. 09:36 PM - Prop Governor 101 please (DejaVu)
30. 09:58 PM - Re: Cutting Spinner to Go Over the Prop (Dan Checkoway)
31. 10:08 PM - Re: Cutting Spinner to Go Over the Prop (DejaVu)
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| Subject: | Re: Exterior lighting choices - followup |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
Larry,
That's correct - 60W... and Whelen tail strobe/pos through Van's. I bought
mine some time back when they had a special on the strobe kit for $150 or
thereabout.
v/r,
Anh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Rosen" <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Exterior lighting choices - followup
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> Anh,
> Which kit did you use? The 60 watt 4 head X-Pack kit? (except for the
> mounting bracket it looks just like the creative air system).
> Are you using the Whelen tail strobe/position light in the tail?
>
> Larry
> http://rv10pilot.home.comcast.net/
>
> DejaVu wrote:
>
> > You may want to check out the strobe kit I use at
> > http://www.strobesnmore.com . Single unit power pack, 4 strobe tubes,
> > shielded wires, connectors.
> > Anh
> > #141
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <mailto:rvbuilder@sausen.net>
> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:18 PM
> > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Exterior lighting choices - followup
> >
> > If anyone is interested here is what I decided on:
> >
> > - CreativAir's 3 strobe kit:
> >
<http://www.creativair.com/cva/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=36
> >
<http://www.creativair.com/cva/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=36>>
> >
> > - Whelen tail strobe/position from Vans as it seems to be the only
> > one that fits the small spot in the fairing:
> >
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1123168358-134-558&bro
wse=lighting&product=a555/500light
> >
<http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1123168358-134-558&br
owse=lighting&product=a555/500light>.
> >
> > - Bill Dubes rectangular LED Nav lights:
> >
http://www.creativair.com/cva/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=61
> >
<http://www.creativair.com/cva/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=61>
> >
> > The LED light on the CreativAir's sight doesn't list the assembled
> > version so I have an email into Bill Vondane to find out if he
> > just forgot to add it. I can always get the assembled version
> > direct from Bill Dube for $5 less. Grand total for this will be
> > around $740 without shipping. The equivalent Whelen system from
> > Van's (System 6) using conventional nav lights is $780. So I only
> > save $40 but I get a, hopefully, more reliable system that uses
> > less power.
> >
> > Michael Sausen
> > -10 #352 wings
> >
>
> > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV
> > Builder (Michael Sausen)
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:16 PM
> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> > *Subject:* RV10-List: Exterior lighting choices
> >
> > Ok, I'm ordering accessories for the wings so I have them when I
> > need them. Got the wing kit for Rob's AOA system, ordered the
> > Duckworks HID and the aileron trim ($275 in case anyone is
> > wondering) from Van's. Still need to order the pitot tube,
> > probably be the Gretz. Now I'm trying to decide on who to use for
> > my strobes/LED nav lights. Whelen is out because of the cost. So
> > this leaves me; Aeroflash, CreativAir, and GS-Air. Of course none
> > of them were at Airventure.
> >
> > First question, how many people out there experienced any problems
> > with the strobes being powered from a central power supply? If I
> > end up getting strobes with a central supply I will probably run
> > the power leads in a dedicated conduit as far away from the other
> > leads, including the Archer Nav coax, as possible. I would prefer
> > strobes run from local power supplies but Aeroflash is the only
> > option of the three for this and I still need to price them out.
> > I'll probably get the Aeroflash for the tail strobe either way but
> > I need to check the flange dimensions so I can make sure it fit's
ok.
> >
> > Does anyone have any preference between GS-Air or Creativ-Air?
> > They are both similar and pretty much the same cost. Anyone
> > currently using any of the above that can give us a pirep?
> >
> > Michael Sausen
> > -10 #352 wings
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Exterior lighting choices - followup |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
By the way, check the replacement price on the strobe tubes themselves. Anh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Rosen" <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Exterior lighting choices - followup
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> Anh,
> Which kit did you use? The 60 watt 4 head X-Pack kit? (except for the
> mounting bracket it looks just like the creative air system).
> Are you using the Whelen tail strobe/position light in the tail?
>
> Larry
> http://rv10pilot.home.comcast.net/
>
> DejaVu wrote:
>
> > You may want to check out the strobe kit I use at
> > http://www.strobesnmore.com . Single unit power pack, 4 strobe tubes,
> > shielded wires, connectors.
> > Anh
> > #141
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <mailto:rvbuilder@sausen.net>
> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:18 PM
> > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Exterior lighting choices - followup
> >
> > If anyone is interested here is what I decided on:
> >
> > - CreativAir's 3 strobe kit:
> >
<http://www.creativair.com/cva/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=36
> >
<http://www.creativair.com/cva/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=36>>
> >
> > - Whelen tail strobe/position from Vans as it seems to be the only
> > one that fits the small spot in the fairing:
> >
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1123168358-134-558&bro
wse=lighting&product=a555/500light
> >
<http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1123168358-134-558&br
owse=lighting&product=a555/500light>.
> >
> > - Bill Dubes rectangular LED Nav lights:
> >
http://www.creativair.com/cva/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=61
> >
<http://www.creativair.com/cva/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=61>
> >
> > The LED light on the CreativAir's sight doesn't list the assembled
> > version so I have an email into Bill Vondane to find out if he
> > just forgot to add it. I can always get the assembled version
> > direct from Bill Dube for $5 less. Grand total for this will be
> > around $740 without shipping. The equivalent Whelen system from
> > Van's (System 6) using conventional nav lights is $780. So I only
> > save $40 but I get a, hopefully, more reliable system that uses
> > less power.
> >
> > Michael Sausen
> > -10 #352 wings
> >
>
> > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV
> > Builder (Michael Sausen)
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:16 PM
> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> > *Subject:* RV10-List: Exterior lighting choices
> >
> > Ok, I'm ordering accessories for the wings so I have them when I
> > need them. Got the wing kit for Rob's AOA system, ordered the
> > Duckworks HID and the aileron trim ($275 in case anyone is
> > wondering) from Van's. Still need to order the pitot tube,
> > probably be the Gretz. Now I'm trying to decide on who to use for
> > my strobes/LED nav lights. Whelen is out because of the cost. So
> > this leaves me; Aeroflash, CreativAir, and GS-Air. Of course none
> > of them were at Airventure.
> >
> > First question, how many people out there experienced any problems
> > with the strobes being powered from a central power supply? If I
> > end up getting strobes with a central supply I will probably run
> > the power leads in a dedicated conduit as far away from the other
> > leads, including the Archer Nav coax, as possible. I would prefer
> > strobes run from local power supplies but Aeroflash is the only
> > option of the three for this and I still need to price them out.
> > I'll probably get the Aeroflash for the tail strobe either way but
> > I need to check the flange dimensions so I can make sure it fit's
ok.
> >
> > Does anyone have any preference between GS-Air or Creativ-Air?
> > They are both similar and pretty much the same cost. Anyone
> > currently using any of the above that can give us a pirep?
> >
> > Michael Sausen
> > -10 #352 wings
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Exterior lighting choices - followup |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
If you do decide to go with strobesnmore, the kit comes with four 15ft
shielded wires. I found that this is just enough to make runs from the wing
tips to the roots with little to spare. Depending on your set up (with or
without connectors at the wing roots) the supplied wires may or may not be
long enough for you. So you'd want to look at other lengths that they
offer. See if you need extra connectors also. They have those too.
Anh
#141
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Rosen" <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Exterior lighting choices - followup
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> Anh,
> Which kit did you use? The 60 watt 4 head X-Pack kit? (except for the
> mounting bracket it looks just like the creative air system).
> Are you using the Whelen tail strobe/position light in the tail?
>
> Larry
> http://rv10pilot.home.comcast.net/
>
> DejaVu wrote:
>
> > You may want to check out the strobe kit I use at
> > http://www.strobesnmore.com . Single unit power pack, 4 strobe tubes,
> > shielded wires, connectors.
> > Anh
> > #141
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <mailto:rvbuilder@sausen.net>
> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:18 PM
> > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Exterior lighting choices - followup
> >
> > If anyone is interested here is what I decided on:
> >
> > - CreativAir's 3 strobe kit:
> >
<http://www.creativair.com/cva/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=36
> >
<http://www.creativair.com/cva/product_info.php?cPath=27&products_id=36>>
> >
> > - Whelen tail strobe/position from Vans as it seems to be the only
> > one that fits the small spot in the fairing:
> >
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1123168358-134-558&bro
wse=lighting&product=a555/500light
> >
<http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1123168358-134-558&br
owse=lighting&product=a555/500light>.
> >
> > - Bill Dubes rectangular LED Nav lights:
> >
http://www.creativair.com/cva/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=61
> >
<http://www.creativair.com/cva/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=61>
> >
> > The LED light on the CreativAir's sight doesn't list the assembled
> > version so I have an email into Bill Vondane to find out if he
> > just forgot to add it. I can always get the assembled version
> > direct from Bill Dube for $5 less. Grand total for this will be
> > around $740 without shipping. The equivalent Whelen system from
> > Van's (System 6) using conventional nav lights is $780. So I only
> > save $40 but I get a, hopefully, more reliable system that uses
> > less power.
> >
> > Michael Sausen
> > -10 #352 wings
> >
>
> > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV
> > Builder (Michael Sausen)
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2005 4:16 PM
> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> > *Subject:* RV10-List: Exterior lighting choices
> >
> > Ok, I'm ordering accessories for the wings so I have them when I
> > need them. Got the wing kit for Rob's AOA system, ordered the
> > Duckworks HID and the aileron trim ($275 in case anyone is
> > wondering) from Van's. Still need to order the pitot tube,
> > probably be the Gretz. Now I'm trying to decide on who to use for
> > my strobes/LED nav lights. Whelen is out because of the cost. So
> > this leaves me; Aeroflash, CreativAir, and GS-Air. Of course none
> > of them were at Airventure.
> >
> > First question, how many people out there experienced any problems
> > with the strobes being powered from a central power supply? If I
> > end up getting strobes with a central supply I will probably run
> > the power leads in a dedicated conduit as far away from the other
> > leads, including the Archer Nav coax, as possible. I would prefer
> > strobes run from local power supplies but Aeroflash is the only
> > option of the three for this and I still need to price them out.
> > I'll probably get the Aeroflash for the tail strobe either way but
> > I need to check the flange dimensions so I can make sure it fit's
ok.
> >
> > Does anyone have any preference between GS-Air or Creativ-Air?
> > They are both similar and pretty much the same cost. Anyone
> > currently using any of the above that can give us a pirep?
> >
> > Michael Sausen
> > -10 #352 wings
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cold air induction????? |
Sweet, now I can start asking people if "that thing got a hemi?"
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Cold air induction?????
Don't forget that the angle valve engine has a hemispherical combustion chamber
while the parallel valve does not. I think you will find that a large percentage
of the horsepower increase is due to the inherent effeciency of the hemi head.
----- Original Message -----
From: William Curtis <mailto:wcurtis@core.com>
To: dan@rvproject.com ; rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 10:13 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Cold air induction?????
>William,
>
>While you're technically correct that the intake runs "through the sump,"
on my
> IO-360-A1B6 the intake section of the sump is below the chamber where
the oil
> sits.
>
>On an O-360-A1A, the intake tubes literally run *through* hot oil.
>
>My IO-360-A1B6 has a stock compression ratio of 8.7:1.
=09
Dan
=09
Hmm, I don't believe that this is a stock sump/induction then. I also have
the certified angle valve IO-360 A1B6D in my Cardinal 177RG and the intake
definitely goes through the sump. You are correct on the compression ratio of
the angle valve IO-360, but the parallel valve I/O-360 only has a compression
ration of 8.5:1. That, and better valve porting is the primary reason for the
20 additional horsepower.
=09
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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| Subject: | RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy |
Jim,
I don't think you are going to get many takers until some real numbers are published
with this prop. Please refrain from the regular postings for this until
you have said numbers. Sending this every couple of months is starting to
smell like advertising SPAM IMHO.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Main Spar
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LessDragProd@aol.com
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy
Hi RV-10 builders,
If you are at a point in your RV-10 project where you will need to have a propeller
on hand in 2 1/2 months, this would be the time to be included in this group
buy.
The group buy price is $7,100 plus shipping.
For delivery disassembled to the closest MT assembly facility, the group buy price
is $7,430.
Van's Aircraft price for the same delivery is $8,060.
For an assembled propeller delivered to the closest international airport, the
group buy price is $8,150.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
This is a group buy for the RV-10 MT Propeller only. Please do not forward to
other email groups.
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| Subject: | MT Propeller Controller |
Personal email? :-)
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Subject: RE: RV10-List: MT Propeller Controller
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of 923te
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 11:59 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: MT Propeller Controller
=09
=09
=09
Hi Jim,
It was good to finally get to meet and get acquainted at Oshkosh last week.
Are you still planning on being at Front Range next week? It would be great
if we could get together there and try out the 2700RPM controller on my TIGER.
What day would you be available? I should be available for a day between
the 10'th and the 15'th.
Best Regards,
Ned Thomas
405 360-4298
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| Subject: | Compressor needs |
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I am getting my garage set up to begin the RV-10. I ordered tools from
Avery at OSH. I will order the Tail next....
I want to know from those that are using a 120v compressor if it will
work or if 220v is needed?
Also what size tank is the minimum to avoid constant compressor run.
Thanks for any help getting me started.
Steve
Stephen Blank RV-10 Builder / Cessna 170B flyer
766 SE River Lane
Port St. Lucie, FL 34983
772-475-5556 cell
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| Subject: | Re: Compressor needs |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
What you need is a two stage compressor ,avoid the tentation of the cheap ones
with direct drive ,if you run one of those in the garage ,that will be the divorce
cause ,not the plane,do not purchase them at harbor freigth and tools ,because
it is not warranty from the manufacturer,(been there , done that)try to
found one with double compressor heads,and if you can install away from the house
,you will be very happy,you can run a PVC (heavy wall)pipe line ,run a water
separator ,but do not install an oiler,you will be finish the plane before
the tool will worn out,if you install one ,you will have micro oil drops all over
the aluminum.
don't take this for law ,but never have a problem with this system.
Hugo
>
> From: LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
> Date: 2005/08/06 Sat AM 09:44:30 EDT
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Compressor needs
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> I am getting my garage set up to begin the RV-10. I ordered tools from
> Avery at OSH. I will order the Tail next....
>
> I want to know from those that are using a 120v compressor if it will
> work or if 220v is needed?
>
> Also what size tank is the minimum to avoid constant compressor run.
> Thanks for any help getting me started.
>
> Steve
>
> Stephen Blank RV-10 Builder / Cessna 170B flyer
> 766 SE River Lane
> Port St. Lucie, FL 34983
>
> 772-475-5556 cell
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GrandRapids EFIS |
You can look on Tim Olson's web page under OSH 2005 photos and he has a picture
of my GRT 3 Screen EFIS panel and his panel 3 Screen Chelton panel:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/panel/OSH2005/P200507260009.html
Tim's panel on the right hand side.
Naturally Tim, who is otherwise a really great guy, would get his entire panel
fully displayed in the picture. I am not sure a solo picture of my panel which
I have attempted in insert will go through:
Stein is building the panel and the center EFIS is the GRT Sport. Notice no round
gauges. The instruments have been taken back out and the lower panel is being
cut for the switches, ect. and then the two part panel will have a dark red
Kavlar reinforced fabric overlay before the instruments are reinstalled. When
finished I will post a completed picture.
Those are RV grins by the way.
Russ Daves
N710RV Reserved - #40044 Fuselage on main gear
N65RV RV-6A Sold
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
LIKE2LOOP@aol.com wrote:
> I want to know from those that are using a 120v compressor if it
> will work or if 220v is needed?
>
> Also what size tank is the minimum to avoid constant compressor
> run. Thanks for any help getting me started.
>
> Steve
Hi Steve,
I'm using a 120v compressor (actually it is a
dual voltage, can use either 120v or 220v). I don't
have 220v available, so it was a necessity for me.
I spent several weeks researching compressors, and with
the help from this list and others, I chose a
Campbell Hausfeld VT6315 unit sold through
Home Depot under the Husky brand name.
Go to www.homedepot.com, enter in VT6315
in the search in the upper right of the page.
So far it has worked very well for me.
One of the critical things for me was the 120v, and it
was the quietest unit I could find that had the
performance that I needed.
Some stats:
- 135 PSI maximum pressure and air delivery 6.6/5.8 SCFM @ 40/90 PSI
- CAST IRON pump
- 26 Gallon vertical tank
Hope this helps,
-Dj
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| Subject: | Re: GrandRapids EFIS |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
You funny guy Russ... ;) I was there for the first power-up of
Russ's panel at Stein's place. I was thoroughly impressed. Those
GRT screens are so much better than most of the competition, and
I think they make an excellent trade-off for those not going to
a Chelton system. If it were me, it would be a very hard choice
to make between 2 Chelton screens, or 3 GRT screens, but I believe
Russ is doing it right with the 3. I think there's more to be
gained by having all 3 available simultaneously, and if you're
going to allow the right-seat person to fly, you'll really appreciate
that. Isn't this the beauty of buiding your own plane in the
year 2005? There are just so many good choices.
There is one thing that kind of detracts from the panel though....
that ugly guy in the red shirt.... (Just testing to see if
Stein is reading the list.) ;)
PS: Russ, send me the full-size photo. I'd like to put it
on my panel page as another option for a good panel.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Russell Daves wrote:
> You can look on Tim Olson's web page under OSH 2005 photos and he has a
> picture of my GRT 3 Screen EFIS panel and his panel 3 Screen Chelton panel:
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/panel/OSH2005/P200507260009.html
> Tim's panel on the right hand side.
>
> Naturally Tim, who is otherwise a really great guy, would get his entire
> panel fully displayed in the picture. I am not sure a solo picture of
> my panel which I have attempted in insert will go through:
>
>
> Stein is building the panel and the center EFIS is the GRT Sport.
> Notice no round gauges. The instruments have been taken back out and
> the lower panel is being cut for the switches, ect. and then the two
> part panel will have a dark red Kavlar reinforced fabric overlay before
> the instruments are reinstalled. When finished I will post a completed
> picture.
>
> Those are RV grins by the way.
>
> Russ Daves
> N710RV Reserved - #40044 Fuselage on main gear
> N65RV RV-6A Sold
>
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| Subject: | Re: Compressor needs |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I'll regurgitate an old post....
------
I can't comment on that exact model, but I recently purchased a similar
compressor. It's the VT6271, which is a 26 gal. twin cylinder cast iron
(240V only -- 15A) oil lube that puts out 10.3@90PSI (11.8@40PSI) for
only $349 directly from Campbell-Hausfeld. This compressor is really
just the motor/pump from their vertical 60gal. model placed on the
26gal. horizontal tank. It works great for me so far and is much quieter
than the oil-less one I replaced.
You have to call them and ask for that price (it's cheaper than their
website listing). Their number is 1-888-CHPOWER.
------
I've just been loving the compressor. I think DJ did a good
job going with a dual-voltage model, even though he doesn't have
220V avalailable....more options for the future. I can say though,
that if you have the opportunity to use 220V, don't even consider
anything less. You'll really want about 10cfm available for
both painting, and for any die-grinder type tools that really
hog the air. For riveting, almost anything would work. Ideally,
and best bang for the buck, the Husky upright 60gallons at
Home Depot have the same pump as mine, with a bigger tank. I think
that would be about perfect if you have space. Otherwise, 25+
gallons would do fine for most things.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Dj Merrill wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
>
> LIKE2LOOP@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>> I want to know from those that are using a 120v compressor if it
>>will work or if 220v is needed?
>>
>> Also what size tank is the minimum to avoid constant compressor
>>run. Thanks for any help getting me started.
>>
>>Steve
>
>
> Hi Steve,
> I'm using a 120v compressor (actually it is a
> dual voltage, can use either 120v or 220v). I don't
> have 220v available, so it was a necessity for me.
> I spent several weeks researching compressors, and with
> the help from this list and others, I chose a
> Campbell Hausfeld VT6315 unit sold through
> Home Depot under the Husky brand name.
> Go to www.homedepot.com, enter in VT6315
> in the search in the upper right of the page.
> So far it has worked very well for me.
> One of the critical things for me was the 120v, and it
> was the quietest unit I could find that had the
> performance that I needed.
>
> Some stats:
> - 135 PSI maximum pressure and air delivery 6.6/5.8 SCFM @ 40/90 PSI
> - CAST IRON pump
> - 26 Gallon vertical tank
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> -Dj
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fw: Important Wash D.C. ADIZ update |
Technically it was already there. Don't forget, it only has to be somewhere in
the message and Anh had already typed it below. But it is a good idea to always
add it just in case. ;-)
Michael
And oh ya, see below......
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fw: Important Wash D.C. ADIZ update
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
--> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Do Not Archive ?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of AI Nut
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fw: Important Wash D.C. ADIZ update
--> RV10-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
I propose we remove the current ADIZ PERMANENTLY. And do it right now.
David
DejaVu wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
>
>Not building related but if you can find some time, please read and
>provide comments at the sites below. The proposal is to extend the
>current ~30nmi ring to 50nmi and making it permanent. Pls also pass on to fellow
pilots.
>Thanks,
>Anh
>#141
>do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ASN@AOPA.ORG [mailto:ASN@AOPA.ORG]
>Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:17 AM
>To: STUDTKE@OLG.COM
>Subject: Important ADIZ update
>
>
>Dear ASN Volunteers:
>
>As you may have read on AOPA Online or in "ePilot" last week, AOPA
>Senior Vice President of Government and Technical Affairs, Andy Cebula,
>met with Office of Management and Budget (OMB) officials regarding a
>proposal to make the Washington, D.C., Air Defense Identification Zone
>(ADIZ) permanent (
>http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050728adiz.html ).
>
>This anticipated proposal was published today in the Federal Register.
>When the ADIZ was established in February 2003, without input from the
>pilot community, it was intended to be temporary. However, more than
>two years later it still exists, and the government wants to make it
>permanent.
>
>AOPA has full coverage of the ADIZ on our Web site (
>http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050803adiz.html ),
>including the actual notice of proposed rulemaking (
>http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050804adiz-nprm.pdf ).
>
>The comment period is open for 90 days. Please alert your fellow pilots
>and direct them to AOPA's Web site ( http://www.aopa.org ) for
>continued updates. We will be asking members across the country to
>comment on the proposal.
>
>Thank you for your help!
>
>--The ASN Staff
>Stacy (Platone) Swigart, Director
>John L. Collins, Government Technical Specialist Kim Reed, Program
>Specialist
>
>
>.
>
>
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You can easily get it off with a 3-4 guys, no need for heavy equipment. Also,
you can find size and weights of all the crates on Van's site.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Main Spars
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter
Subject: Re: RV10-List: The 12th 10
--> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
Crate 1 is 11" x 32" x 8' 8"
Crate 2 is 11" x 12" x 14' 2"
Total weight between the 2 is 492 lbs
On Aug 5, 2005, at 1:02 PM, James Hein wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
>
> Jeff,
> How big are the crates for the wing kit and about how much do they
> weigh?
> I expect my wing kit (slow build) towards the end of the month.
>
> -Jim 40384 (2nd attempt at trim tabs this weekend...)
>
> Jeff Carpenter wrote:
>
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter
>> <jeff@westcottpress.com>
>>
>> I see on Vans site that the 12th RV-10 is flying. Any ideas who it
>> is?
>>
>> Jeff Carpenter
>> 40304
>> Finishing the Tail Cone
>> Starting Inventory on the Wing Kit
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Pnuematic Squeezer |
Yep, nothing wrong with it, it just needs the set adjusted. Hopefully you have
an adjustable set or else time to add or remove shims.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Main spars
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pnuematic Squeezer
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
--> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
Try adjusting the set, it sounds like you had it right on the edge of ok, and it
moved on you, remember it only develops full power in the last 1/16 of travel
and sometimes it is counter intuitive in getting set right. What I usually do
is use the adjustable set, and hold the piston in the full up position, I then
screw it all the way in until the rivet just fits between the dies, then I
will walk the setup in half turns until I get the proper squeeze on the rivet.
Hope this helps
Dan
40269 wings
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Hunter
Subject: RV10-List: Pnuematic Squeezer
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Hunter"
<rwhunter@integraonline.com>
My pneumatic squeezer died after using it to squeeze 20 or so rivets.
The piston moves up and down, but there is no power. Any suggestions?
I have the whole weekend to my self and this is killing my progress.
Rob Hunter
40432
V/S
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fw: Important Wash D.C. ADIZ update
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
--> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Do Not Archive ?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of AI Nut
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fw: Important Wash D.C. ADIZ update
--> RV10-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
I propose we remove the current ADIZ PERMANENTLY. And do it right now.
David
DejaVu wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
>
>Not building related but if you can find some time, please read and
>provide comments at the sites below. The proposal is to extend the
>current ~30nmi ring to 50nmi and making it permanent. Pls also pass on
>to fellow pilots. Thanks, Anh
>#141
>do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ASN@AOPA.ORG [mailto:ASN@AOPA.ORG]
>Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:17 AM
>To: STUDTKE@OLG.COM
>Subject: Important ADIZ update
>
>
>Dear ASN Volunteers:
>
>As you may have read on AOPA Online or in "ePilot" last week, AOPA
>Senior Vice President of Government and Technical Affairs, Andy Cebula,
>met with Office of Management and Budget (OMB) officials regarding a
>proposal to make the Washington, D.C., Air Defense Identification Zone
>(ADIZ) permanent (
>http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050728adiz.html ).
>
>This anticipated proposal was published today in the Federal Register.
>When the ADIZ was established in February 2003, without input from the
>pilot community, it was intended to be temporary. However, more than
>two years later it still exists, and the government wants to make it
>permanent.
>
>AOPA has full coverage of the ADIZ on our Web site (
>http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050803adiz.html ),
>including the actual notice of proposed rulemaking (
>http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050804adiz-nprm.pdf ).
>
>The comment period is open for 90 days. Please alert your fellow pilots
>and direct them to AOPA's Web site ( http://www.aopa.org ) for
>continued updates. We will be asking members across the country to
>comment on the proposal.
>
>Thank you for your help!
>
>--The ASN Staff
>Stacy (Platone) Swigart, Director
>John L. Collins, Government Technical Specialist Kim Reed, Program
>Specialist
>
>
>.
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy |
DITTO. Get the numbers and quiet all these hostile Hartzell zealots.
Gerd's seminars at OSH were great. I am personally waiting for both
Scott and Vic to quiet the roar. Remember guys to rig your flaps and
ailerons correctly before posting performance numbers.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
John - KUAO
________________________________
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy
Jim,
I don't think you are going to get many takers until some real numbers
are published with this prop. Please refrain from the regular postings
for this until you have said numbers. Sending this every couple of
months is starting to smell like advertising SPAM IMHO.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Main Spar
do not archive
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
LessDragProd@aol.com
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy
Hi RV-10 builders,
If you are at a point in your RV-10 project where you will need to have
a propeller on hand in 2 1/2 months, this would be the time to be
included in this group buy.
The group buy price is $7,100 plus shipping.
For delivery disassembled to the closest MT assembly facility, the group
buy price is $7,430.
Van's Aircraft price for the same delivery is $8,060.
For an assembled propeller delivered to the closest international
airport, the group buy price is $8,150.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
This is a group buy for the RV-10 MT Propeller only. Please do not
forward to other email groups.
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| Subject: | Pnuematic Squeezer |
Thanks guys. The squeezer worked fine once I figured it out.
Rob Hunter
40432
Rudder now thanks to all of you!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pnuematic Squeezer
Yep, nothing wrong with it, it just needs the set adjusted. Hopefully
you have an adjustable set or else time to add or remove shims.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Main spars
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
R.
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pnuematic Squeezer
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
--> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
Try adjusting the set, it sounds like you had it right on the edge of
ok, and it moved on you, remember it only develops full power in the
last 1/16 of travel and sometimes it is counter intuitive in getting set
right. What I usually do is use the adjustable set, and hold the piston
in the full up position, I then screw it all the way in until the rivet
just fits between the dies, then I will walk the setup in half turns
until I get the proper squeeze on the rivet.
Hope this helps
Dan
40269 wings
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Hunter
Subject: RV10-List: Pnuematic Squeezer
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Hunter"
<rwhunter@integraonline.com>
My pneumatic squeezer died after using it to squeeze 20 or so rivets.
The piston moves up and down, but there is no power. Any suggestions?
I have the whole weekend to my self and this is killing my progress.
Rob Hunter
40432
V/S
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fw: Important Wash D.C. ADIZ update
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
--> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Do Not Archive ?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of AI Nut
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fw: Important Wash D.C. ADIZ update
--> RV10-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
I propose we remove the current ADIZ PERMANENTLY. And do it right now.
David
DejaVu wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
>
>Not building related but if you can find some time, please read and
>provide comments at the sites below. The proposal is to extend the
>current ~30nmi ring to 50nmi and making it permanent. Pls also pass on
>to fellow pilots. Thanks, Anh
>#141
>do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ASN@AOPA.ORG [mailto:ASN@AOPA.ORG]
>Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:17 AM
>To: STUDTKE@OLG.COM
>Subject: Important ADIZ update
>
>
>Dear ASN Volunteers:
>
>As you may have read on AOPA Online or in "ePilot" last week, AOPA
>Senior Vice President of Government and Technical Affairs, Andy Cebula,
>met with Office of Management and Budget (OMB) officials regarding a
>proposal to make the Washington, D.C., Air Defense Identification Zone
>(ADIZ) permanent (
>http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050728adiz.html ).
>
>This anticipated proposal was published today in the Federal Register.
>When the ADIZ was established in February 2003, without input from the
>pilot community, it was intended to be temporary. However, more than
>two years later it still exists, and the government wants to make it
>permanent.
>
>AOPA has full coverage of the ADIZ on our Web site (
>http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050803adiz.html ),
>including the actual notice of proposed rulemaking (
>http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050804adiz-nprm.pdf ).
>
>The comment period is open for 90 days. Please alert your fellow pilots
>and direct them to AOPA's Web site ( http://www.aopa.org ) for
>continued updates. We will be asking members across the country to
>comment on the proposal.
>
>Thank you for your help!
>
>--The ASN Staff
>Stacy (Platone) Swigart, Director
>John L. Collins, Government Technical Specialist Kim Reed, Program
>Specialist
>
>
>.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pnuematic Squeezer |
If you do have a squeezer give up on you, I can confidently recommend
The Yard House to rebuild it. They just reworked my ancient CP
squeezer. The bill was $86.00 and it came back to me in about a
week... works like a champ. It's amazing how much better you build
with a properly functioning tool.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
N410CF
On Aug 6, 2005, at 7:02 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> Yep, nothing wrong with it, it just needs the set adjusted.
> Hopefully you have an adjustable set or else time to add or remove
> shims.
>
> Michael Sausen
> -10 #352 Main spars
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 9:26 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pnuematic Squeezer
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> --> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> Try adjusting the set, it sounds like you had it right on the edge
> of ok, and it moved on you, remember it only develops full power in
> the last 1/16 of travel and sometimes it is counter intuitive in
> getting set right. What I usually do is use the adjustable set, and
> hold the piston in the full up position, I then screw it all the
> way in until the rivet just fits between the dies, then I will walk
> the setup in half turns until I get the proper squeeze on the rivet.
> Hope this helps
> Dan
> 40269 wings
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Hunter
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 9:59 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Pnuematic Squeezer
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Hunter"
> <rwhunter@integraonline.com>
>
> My pneumatic squeezer died after using it to squeeze 20 or so rivets.
> The piston moves up and down, but there is no power. Any suggestions?
> I have the whole weekend to my self and this is killing my progress.
>
> Rob Hunter
> 40432
> V/S
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Dawson-Townsend
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 5:40 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fw: Important Wash D.C. ADIZ update
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
> --> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> Do Not Archive ?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of AI Nut
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 6:27 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fw: Important Wash D.C. ADIZ update
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
>
> I propose we remove the current ADIZ PERMANENTLY. And do it right
> now.
>
> David
>
>
> DejaVu wrote:
>
> >--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
> >
> >Not building related but if you can find some time, please read and
> >provide comments at the sites below. The proposal is to extend the
> >current ~30nmi ring to 50nmi and making it permanent. Pls also
> pass on
>
> >to fellow pilots. Thanks, Anh
> >#141
> >do not archive
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ASN@AOPA.ORG [mailto:ASN@AOPA.ORG]
> >Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:17 AM
> >To: STUDTKE@OLG.COM
> >Subject: Important ADIZ update
> >
> >
> >Dear ASN Volunteers:
> >
> >As you may have read on AOPA Online or in "ePilot" last week, AOPA
> >Senior Vice President of Government and Technical Affairs, Andy
> Cebula,
>
> >met with Office of Management and Budget (OMB) officials regarding a
> >proposal to make the Washington, D.C., Air Defense Identification
> Zone
> >(ADIZ) permanent (
> >http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050728adiz.html ).
> >
> >This anticipated proposal was published today in the Federal
> Register.
> >When the ADIZ was established in February 2003, without input from
> the
> >pilot community, it was intended to be temporary. However, more than
> >two years later it still exists, and the government wants to make it
> >permanent.
> >
> >AOPA has full coverage of the ADIZ on our Web site (
> >http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050803adiz.html ),
> >including the actual notice of proposed rulemaking (
> >http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050804adiz-nprm.pdf ).
> >
> >The comment period is open for 90 days. Please alert your fellow
> pilots
>
> >and direct them to AOPA's Web site ( http://www.aopa.org ) for
> >continued updates. We will be asking members across the country to
> >comment on the proposal.
> >
> >Thank you for your help!
> >
> >--The ASN Staff
> >Stacy (Platone) Swigart, Director
> >John L. Collins, Government Technical Specialist Kim Reed, Program
> >Specialist
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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I hope I didn't make my first mistake. When clecoing part R1004a to
1004B the large existing hole ( there are 2 in R1004A) is covered half
way by R1004B and in R1003A it is covered completely by R1003B. Any
thoughts?
Rob Hunter
40432
Rudder
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Hunter
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pnuematic Squeezer
Thanks guys. The squeezer worked fine once I figured it out.
Rob Hunter
40432
Rudder now thanks to all of you!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pnuematic Squeezer
Yep, nothing wrong with it, it just needs the set adjusted. Hopefully
you have an adjustable set or else time to add or remove shims.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Main spars
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
R.
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pnuematic Squeezer
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
--> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
Try adjusting the set, it sounds like you had it right on the edge of
ok, and it moved on you, remember it only develops full power in the
last 1/16 of travel and sometimes it is counter intuitive in getting set
right. What I usually do is use the adjustable set, and hold the piston
in the full up position, I then screw it all the way in until the rivet
just fits between the dies, then I will walk the setup in half turns
until I get the proper squeeze on the rivet.
Hope this helps
Dan
40269 wings
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Hunter
Subject: RV10-List: Pnuematic Squeezer
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Hunter"
<rwhunter@integraonline.com>
My pneumatic squeezer died after using it to squeeze 20 or so rivets.
The piston moves up and down, but there is no power. Any suggestions?
I have the whole weekend to my self and this is killing my progress.
Rob Hunter
40432
V/S
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fw: Important Wash D.C. ADIZ update
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
--> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Do Not Archive ?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of AI Nut
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fw: Important Wash D.C. ADIZ update
--> RV10-List message posted by: AI Nut <ainut@hiwaay.net>
I propose we remove the current ADIZ PERMANENTLY. And do it right now.
David
DejaVu wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
>
>Not building related but if you can find some time, please read and
>provide comments at the sites below. The proposal is to extend the
>current ~30nmi ring to 50nmi and making it permanent. Pls also pass on
>to fellow pilots. Thanks, Anh
>#141
>do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ASN@AOPA.ORG [mailto:ASN@AOPA.ORG]
>Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:17 AM
>To: STUDTKE@OLG.COM
>Subject: Important ADIZ update
>
>
>Dear ASN Volunteers:
>
>As you may have read on AOPA Online or in "ePilot" last week, AOPA
>Senior Vice President of Government and Technical Affairs, Andy Cebula,
>met with Office of Management and Budget (OMB) officials regarding a
>proposal to make the Washington, D.C., Air Defense Identification Zone
>(ADIZ) permanent (
>http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050728adiz.html ).
>
>This anticipated proposal was published today in the Federal Register.
>When the ADIZ was established in February 2003, without input from the
>pilot community, it was intended to be temporary. However, more than
>two years later it still exists, and the government wants to make it
>permanent.
>
>AOPA has full coverage of the ADIZ on our Web site (
>http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050803adiz.html ),
>including the actual notice of proposed rulemaking (
>http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050804adiz-nprm.pdf ).
>
>The comment period is open for 90 days. Please alert your fellow pilots
>and direct them to AOPA's Web site ( http://www.aopa.org ) for
>continued updates. We will be asking members across the country to
>comment on the proposal.
>
>Thank you for your help!
>
>--The ASN Staff
>Stacy (Platone) Swigart, Director
>John L. Collins, Government Technical Specialist Kim Reed, Program
>Specialist
>
>
>.
>
>
>
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DNA: do not archive
Its-Bogus: do not forward to list - No Plain-Text Section
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| Subject: | RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy |
I assume this is for the 3 bladed MT prop?
How hard / how much assembly required?
Does user assembly void or otherwise change the warranty?
John Miller
#40404
In a message dated 8/5/2005 10:39:22 AM Central Standard Time,
LessDragProd@aol.com writes:
Hi RV-10 builders,
If you are at a point in your RV-10 project where you will need to have a
propeller on hand in 2 1/2 months, this would be the time to be included in this
group buy.
The group buy price is $7,100 plus shipping.
For delivery disassembled to the closest MT assembly facility, the group buy
price is $7,430.
Van's Aircraft price for the same delivery is $8,060.
For an assembled propeller delivered to the closest international airport,
the group buy price is $8,150.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
This is a group buy for the RV-10 MT Propeller only. Please do not forward
to other email groups.
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| Subject: | RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy |
I agree that it would be nice to have some hard numbers on the MT, but with
over 3,500 e-mails through the list since the first of the year, many of
them off-topic or not relevant to me, I think an e-mail every couple of
months about a prop isn't that bad. Yes, I am sure it sound like
advertising and it may be, but I would not call it SPAM (and what does IMHO
mean anyway?). If I decide to go with an MT prop in the future, I am going
to be glad that I got reminded every couple of months about the group buy.
What are the chances we can get a group buy discount like that on the
Hartzell?
Not to jump on you Mike (I probably went a little too far), but I think
Jim's e-mail to the group is more necessary than this one.
Keep building guys. It's worth it!
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy
Jim,
I don't think you are going to get many takers until some real numbers are
published with this prop. Please refrain from the regular postings for this
until you have said numbers. Sending this every couple of months is
starting to smell like advertising SPAM IMHO.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Main Spar
do not archive
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
LessDragProd@aol.com
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy
Hi RV-10 builders,
If you are at a point in your RV-10 project where you will need to have a
propeller on hand in 2 1/2 months, this would be the time to be included in
this group buy.
The group buy price is $7,100 plus shipping.
For delivery disassembled to the closest MT assembly facility, the group buy
price is $7,430.
Van's Aircraft price for the same delivery is $8,060.
For an assembled propeller delivered to the closest international airport,
the group buy price is $8,150.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
This is a group buy for the RV-10 MT Propeller only. Please do not forward
to other email groups.
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
Jesse Saint wrote:
> (and what
> does IMHO mean anyway?).
In My Humble Opinion (IMHO).
:-)
do not archive
-Dj
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| Subject: | Help Crack on Aleron Gap Faring |
When I attached the aileron gap fairing today, the bucking bar slipped
off and I cracked the gap faring. The Spar is OK. Attached is a
photo. It sure looks bad when it is magnified. :-( Any suggestions on
what I can do, other than replace the gap faring?
Larry Rosen
http://rv10pilot.home.comcast.net/
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I don't mind the occasional reminder emails either...but I
too want to see numbers. As for the group buy Jesse, that's
what his $7100 price is...a group buy price. It's considerably
higher otherwise. And, to answer John's question, I don't think
builder assembly is an option. You have to pay for shipping,
and then pay the local dealer for assembly....and then you
have to figure out how to get it home once assembled.
I'm not 100% sure that there is no way around the assembly,
but from prior posts, I don't think there is.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Jesse Saint wrote:
> I agree that it would be nice to have some hard numbers on the MT, but
> with over 3,500 e-mails through the list since the first of the year,
> many of them off-topic or not relevant to me, I think an e-mail every
> couple of months about a prop isnt that bad. Yes, I am sure it sound
> like advertising and it may be, but I would not call it SPAM (and what
> does IMHO mean anyway?). If I decide to go with an MT prop in the
> future, I am going to be glad that I got reminded every couple of months
> about the group buy. What are the chances we can get a group buy
> discount like that on the Hartzell?
>
>
>
> Not to jump on you Mike (I probably went a little too far), but I think
> Jims e-mail to the group is more necessary than this one.
>
>
>
> Keep building guys. Its worth it!
>
>
>
> Jesse Saint
>
> I-TEC, Inc.
>
> jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
>
> W: 352-465-4545
>
> C: 352-427-0285
>
> F: 815-377-3694
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV Builder
> (Michael Sausen)
> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2005 12:09 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy
>
>
>
> Jim,
>
>
>
> I don't think you are going to get many takers until some real numbers
> are published with this prop. Please refrain from the regular postings
> for this until you have said numbers. Sending this every couple of
> months is starting to smell like advertising SPAM IMHO.
>
>
>
> Michael Sausen
>
> -10 #352 Main Spar
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *LessDragProd@aol.com
> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2005 10:38 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy
>
> Hi RV-10 builders,
>
>
>
> If you are at a point in your RV-10 project where you will need to have
> a propeller on hand in 2 1/2 months, this would be the time to be
> included in this group buy.
>
>
>
> The group buy price is $7,100 plus shipping.
>
>
>
> For delivery disassembled to the closest MT assembly facility, the group
> buy price is $7,430.
>
> Van's Aircraft price for the same delivery is $8,060.
>
>
>
> For an assembled propeller delivered to the closest international
> airport, the group buy price is $8,150.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Ayers
>
> This is a group buy for the RV-10 MT Propeller only. Please do not
> forward to other email groups.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Help Crack on Aleron Gap Faring |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
A further away picture might help for perspective...
I'm wondering if possibly a good option might not be to
drill the rivet, deburr the hole, and then use a screw
and washer to hold it (if there's clearance to the flap
or no major cosmetic reason to not do that). Then
you'd at least have some surface area. The biggest
worry would be making sure the crack can't spread, so
I suppose another solution would be to drill the rivet,
debur the hole, drill the hole to the size of the rivet
head or larger, drive a rivet, and then fill with body
filler. Depending on where this rivet is, it's maybe
possible to just get by without that one holding (like
if it's just one of many in a line) Of course, if you
have time to spare,a new gap seal would probably
not cost too much.
Oh, and how about this....deburr the hole, rivet a
patch over or under the area with AD3 rivets, and
then rivet again.
Just some thoughts...but I really can't picture
where this is very well right now.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Larry Rosen wrote:
> When I attached the aileron gap fairing today, the bucking bar slipped
> off and I cracked the gap faring. The Spar is OK. Attached is a
> photo. It sure looks bad when it is magnified. :-( Any suggestions on
> what I can do, other than replace the gap faring?
>
> Larry Rosen
> http://rv10pilot.home.comcast.net/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy |
"SoCal RV" <SoCal-RVlist@yahoogroups.com>
<!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAAMUoTWRB7Oki69bBuKEQjdeKAAAAQAAAAIiNcrgzK7kaIkEFwKckGnwEAAAAA@itecusa.org>
<42F57A5F.2030901@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
--> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
OR in the Land of KABONG . "IMNSHO" (In My Not So Humble Opinion). 8*)
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dj Merrill" <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 MT Propeller Group Buy
> Jesse Saint wrote: (and what does IMHO mean anyway?).
>
> In My Humble Opinion (IMHO).
>
> :-)
>
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Cutting Spinner to Go Over the Prop |
The instructions said to notch out the spinner to fit around the prop blades, and
make sure that you have the clearance around the blades for all pitch angles.
How do you move the prop blades?
Anh
#141
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| Subject: | Prop Governor 101 please |
I understand the basic theory of operation behind the govenor and C/S prop. Looking
at governor and down the engine crank today had me puzzled. How does the
oil get to the governor (through that tube running crosswise to the crank?)
and how does it get to the prop hub? (by pressuring the entire inside of the crank?)
Anh
#141
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting Spinner to Go Over the Prop |
http://rvproject.com/images/2003/20031219_cutting_spinner_openings.jpg
I used one of those "strap wrench" dealies. Harbor Freight sells 'em for like
6 bucks. Just wrench it at the root of the blade. Works great. Might want to
wrap your prop with masking tape, regardless of the method you choose, in the
area where you're wangin on it.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber39898
If I recall, Van's recommended clamping two pieces of wood and yadda yadda yadda.
Seemed clunky to me. The strap wrench method works every time and wood doesn't
go flying every which way if it slips.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (583 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: DejaVu
To: RV10
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 9:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Cutting Spinner to Go Over the Prop
The instructions said to notch out the spinner to fit around the prop blades,
and make sure that you have the clearance around the blades for all pitch angles.
How do you move the prop blades?
Anh
#141
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting Spinner to Go Over the Prop |
Great suggestion. Van's doesn't tell you how to do it at all. Thanks. Anh
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Checkoway
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cutting Spinner to Go Over the Prop
http://rvproject.com/images/2003/20031219_cutting_spinner_openings.jpg
I used one of those "strap wrench" dealies. Harbor Freight sells 'em for like
6 bucks. Just wrench it at the root of the blade. Works great. Might want
to wrap your prop with masking tape, regardless of the method you choose, in
the area where you're wangin on it.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber39898
If I recall, Van's recommended clamping two pieces of wood and yadda yadda yadda.
Seemed clunky to me. The strap wrench method works every time and wood
doesn't go flying every which way if it slips.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (583 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: DejaVu
To: RV10
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 9:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Cutting Spinner to Go Over the Prop
The instructions said to notch out the spinner to fit around the prop blades,
and make sure that you have the clearance around the blades for all pitch angles.
How do you move the prop blades?
Anh
#141
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