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1. 06:10 AM - #8 Screw Dimple Die Set for sale (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
2. 06:23 AM - Re: Battery Purchase (Kent Jones)
3. 06:37 AM - Re: Battery Purchase (Tim Olson)
4. 10:57 AM - Re: Battery Purchase (Tim Olson)
5. 11:25 AM - Re: Rear Step not aligned (Dave & Brenda Emond)
6. 01:25 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (Scott Schmidt)
7. 01:37 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (Gary Specketer)
8. 01:55 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
9. 02:20 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
10. 02:25 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (Tim Olson)
11. 03:40 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (linn walters)
12. 03:51 PM - NO. OF FLYING RV 10'S (Fixitauto@aol.com)
13. 04:18 PM - Flying RV-10's - 14 (Jim Combs)
14. 04:26 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (John Cram)
15. 04:27 PM - Re: clecoes (Robert G. Wright)
16. 04:41 PM - Re: Flying RV-10's - 14 (Randy DeBauw)
17. 04:52 PM - Re: clecoes (LarryRosen@comcast.net)
18. 06:11 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (Richard Leach)
19. 06:16 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (John Jessen)
20. 06:27 PM - Re: Flying RV-10's - 14 (Jim Combs)
21. 07:01 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (Jay Rowe)
22. 07:18 PM - Re: Flying RV-10's - 14 (Robert)
23. 07:35 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (Dick Gurley)
24. 07:40 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (Jesse Saint)
25. 08:07 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
26. 08:11 PM - Re: Battery Purchase (Tim Olson)
27. 08:20 PM - Re: Flying RV-10's - 14 (Albert Gardner)
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| Subject: | #8 Screw Dimple Die Set for sale |
Ok, for some reason I had a brain fart and ordered a #8 Dimple Die set when I
already had one. It is US Tool and goes for $32.50. I'll let it go for $20 with
USPS (USA only) shipping included.
If anyone is interested email me off list.
Michael Sausen
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Purchase |
Carl,
I am also very interested in your power diagram. Perhaps it can be posted?
Thank you,
Kent C. Jones
kjones@bost.org
Fort Smith, Arkansas
Finishing RV 10 Tail 40296
Carl Froehlich wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@cox.net>
>
>I have a pair of Odyssey PC-625's in my RV-8A. The install supports dual
>electronic ignitions and an all electric panel. The design is based on
>being able to continue IFR flight with the lost of the alternator and one
>battery until fuel exhaustion. If interested I'll send the power
>distribution diagram.
>
>Although the normal mode is to have both batteries on line, I have done some
>single battery op tests. One battery spins my O-360 just fine.
>
>Carl Froehlich
>RV-8A (200 hrs), RV-10 on the wish list
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
>(US SSA)
>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:49 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
><bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
>Tim,
>
>Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
>smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
>additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
>related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
>and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
>considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
>redundancy.
>
>Bob #40105
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:52 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
>Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
>and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
>can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
>got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
>route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
>pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
>up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
>in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
>slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
>I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
>be moving quite fast again.
>
>Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
>
>Tim
>
>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
>Current project: Fuselage
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>Rick wrote:
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>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
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>>Tim,
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>>I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see, if
>>
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>has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
>
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>>rick S.
>>40185
>>Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Purchase |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
If Carl wants to make it available to all, I'd be happy to
put it on the site as an example.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Kent Jones wrote:
> Carl,
> I am also very interested in your power diagram. Perhaps it can be posted?
> Thank you,
> Kent C. Jones
> kjones@bost.org
> Fort Smith, Arkansas
> Finishing RV 10 Tail 40296
>
> Carl Froehlich wrote:
>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@cox.net>
>>
>>I have a pair of Odyssey PC-625's in my RV-8A. The install supports dual
>>electronic ignitions and an all electric panel. The design is based on
>>being able to continue IFR flight with the lost of the alternator and one
>>battery until fuel exhaustion. If interested I'll send the power
>>distribution diagram.
>>
>>Although the normal mode is to have both batteries on line, I have done some
>>single battery op tests. One battery spins my O-360 just fine.
>>
>>Carl Froehlich
>>RV-8A (200 hrs), RV-10 on the wish list
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
>>(US SSA)
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:49 PM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>>
>>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
>><bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>>
>>Tim,
>>
>>Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
>>smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
>>additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
>>related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
>>and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
>>considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
>>redundancy.
>>
>>Bob #40105
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:52 AM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>>Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
>>and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
>>can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
>>got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
>>route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
>>pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
>>up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
>>in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
>>slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
>>I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
>>be moving quite fast again.
>>
>>Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
>>Current project: Fuselage
>>
>>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>>
>>Rick wrote:
>>
>>
>>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>>>
>>>Tim,
>>>
>>>I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see, if
>>>
>>>
>>has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
>>
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>>>rick S.
>>>40185
>>>Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Purchase |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Carl sent his power diagram to me to post....so you don't have
to make him send 500 emails. ;)
It's posted at:
http://www.myrv10.com/files/electrical/schematics/716RV_wiring_diag.ppt
I haven't had a chance to create a page to link it off from, but
the link above should work for you to download it.
Thanks Carl!
Tim
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> If Carl wants to make it available to all, I'd be happy to
> put it on the site as an example.
> Tim
>
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> Kent Jones wrote:
>
>> Carl,
>> I am also very interested in your power diagram. Perhaps it can be
>> posted?
>> Thank you,
>> Kent C. Jones
>> kjones@bost.org
>> Fort Smith, Arkansas
>> Finishing RV 10 Tail 40296
>>
>> Carl Froehlich wrote:
>>
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich"
>>> <carl.froehlich@cox.net>
>>>
>>> I have a pair of Odyssey PC-625's in my RV-8A. The install supports
>>> dual
>>> electronic ignitions and an all electric panel. The design is based on
>>> being able to continue IFR flight with the lost of the alternator and
>>> one
>>> battery until fuel exhaustion. If interested I'll send the power
>>> distribution diagram.
>>>
>>> Although the normal mode is to have both batteries on line, I have
>>> done some
>>> single battery op tests. One battery spins my O-360 just fine.
>>>
>>> Carl Froehlich
>>> RV-8A (200 hrs), RV-10 on the wish list
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
>>> (US SSA)
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:49 PM
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>>>
>>>
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
>>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
>>> smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
>>> additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
>>> related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
>>> and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
>>> considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
>>> redundancy.
>>>
>>> Bob #40105
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:52 AM
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>>>
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>>
>>> Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
>>> and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
>>> can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
>>> got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
>>> route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
>>> pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
>>> up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
>>> in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
>>> slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
>>> I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
>>> be moving quite fast again.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
>>> Current project: Fuselage
>>>
>>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>>>>
>>>> Tim,
>>>>
>>>> I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see, if
>>>>
>>>
>>> has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
>>>
>>>
>>>> rick S.
>>>> 40185
>>>> Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Rear Step not aligned |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Dave & Brenda Emond" <d_emond@mweb.co.za>
Hi Tim
Thanks to you and the other RV builders for your help. South Africa is about
7hrs ahead. Thats why I don't get to read the late posts, until the
following day.
Regards
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rear Step not aligned
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Thanks guys, for the great responses on the rear step thing.
> I think Dave Emond monitors the list, so he'll read them
> here, but i forwarded them back to him too. He'll
> appreciate your help I'm sure.
>
> Tim
>
>
> Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
>> Not sure what they do with the quick builds, but the block face has an
>> angle to it so that it will align with the rib. On the SB the holes are
>> drilled into the rib by putting the block on the step tube and then match
>> drilling the rib to fit. Check angle and swap sides is the only advice
>> that I've got.
>>
>> Bob #40105
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
>> R.
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:13 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rear Step not aligned
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
>> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>>
>> If I remember right, there was an issue with these being uni
>>
>> directional, IE right and left, and during shipping they are in
>>
>> backwards? If I remember from previous posts...did he check the other
>>
>> side for fit?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:23 PM
>>
>> To: RV10
>>
>> Subject: RV10-List: Rear Step not aligned
>>
>> This I'm passing on from another RV-10 Builder...Dave Emond.
>>
>> It's regarding a QB Fuselage.
>>
>> "I am experiencing an alignment problem with the steps. If I insert the
>>
>> step into the weldment, the UHMW block that fits onto the step shaft and
>>
>> then bolts onto the rib, doesn't align with the holes in the rib. Did
>>
>> you experience any similar problem?"
>>
>> He sent a photo....see attached.
>>
>> His UHMW block was pre-attached, just like mine, but his step
>>
>> doesn't slide in straight.
>>
>> Is there anyone out there who's had this situation or might have
>>
>> advice? He's currently waiting for advice from Van's.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> --
>>
>> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
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| Subject: | Battery Purchase |
What is a star?
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn walters
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
Like everything, there's good and bad. The airframe makes a great
ground. Just use a star (inside or outside, doesn't matter) between the
ring terminal (for whatever size wire you use) and the frame. This
assures you have a good mechanical connection. Some electrical grease
won't hurt either and may prevent corrosion problems down the road. And
you save weight as has been noted. Everywhere.
If you elect to run cable forward to a ground block near the panel,
you're assured of a good ground for your electronics. Now you have to
decide if you want to run ground wires out to the wings, tail etc .....
but they add more weight. The fuselage ground has more area than your
ground cable to the cockpit so that's something else to consider.
My only caution ....... do not scrimp on the cable from the battery to
the starter. That's the wrong place to save weight. If you can get
some welding cable, that would be better as they have many more strands
than standard heavy-duty wire.
Best of luck,
Linn
Scott Schmidt wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt"
<sschmidt@ussynthetic.com> <mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
I had planned on running 2 AWG wire for both + and - from two Odyssey
680 batteries in the rear. I thought that the Aeroelectric book
recommended that but if I don't have to than that would save some
weight. I just wasn't sure how I would ground it in the back. I worry
that the ground during startup won't be solid. My thoughts are to take
the negative ground from the battery to the grounding block. That way,
everything will be grounded in the same spot except the nav lights,
heated pitot, and anything else that Knuckles says that won't cause any
noise in the system. But basically everything will be grounded at the
firewall.
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
<mailto:schmoboy@cox.net>
Where is everyone placing their battery buss? Are you using 2AWG for +
and - going up to the firewall?
-Sean #40303
Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com> <mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Tim,
Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a
pair of
smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of
the
additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in
the
related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact
implementation
and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that
you're
considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
redundancy.
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Olson
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:52 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
<mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V
conditioned
and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go
that
route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger
hooked
up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think
once
I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
be moving quite fast again.
Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rick wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick
<ricksked@earthlink.net> <mailto:ricksked@earthlink.net>
Tim,
I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one
out and see,
if
has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying
around.
rick S.
40185
Wings
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| Subject: | Battery Purchase |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
Carl, Could you send me your wiring diagram. Gary Specketer
speckter@comcast.net
Thanks
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron
Gillespie
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Byron Gillespie" <bgill1@charter.net>
Carl:
If possible, I would like a copy as well. I am right at the point of the
wiring stage and like to look at as many options as possible. I have the
"aero" book but like to see others to note variations if applicable.
Thanks,
Byron
RV-10 Fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Froehlich
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich"
<carl.froehlich@cox.net>
I have a pair of Odyssey PC-625's in my RV-8A. The install supports
dual electronic ignitions and an all electric panel. The design is
based on being able to continue IFR flight with the lost of the
alternator and one battery until fuel exhaustion. If interested I'll
send the power distribution diagram.
Although the normal mode is to have both batteries on line, I have done
some single battery op tests. One battery spins my O-360 just fine.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (200 hrs), RV-10 on the wish list
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
(US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Tim,
Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
redundancy.
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned and
regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that can push
maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein got a couple good
ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that route, but I figured if
I needed a battery anyway, I may as well pick one up and just use it and
have my 10A battery charger hooked
up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going slow right
now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once I finsish some of
these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll be moving quite fast
again.
Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Tim,
>
> I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see, if
has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
>
> rick S.
> 40185
> Wings
>
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A star washer. It's serated to lock the nut with part that it's binding.
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
What is a star?
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn walters
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
Like everything, there's good and bad. The airframe makes a great
ground. Just use a star (inside or outside, doesn't matter) between the
ring terminal (for whatever size wire you use) and the frame. This
assures you have a good mechanical connection. Some electrical grease
won't hurt either and may prevent corrosion problems down the road. And
you save weight as has been noted. Everywhere.
If you elect to run cable forward to a ground block near the panel,
you're assured of a good ground for your electronics. Now you have to
decide if you want to run ground wires out to the wings, tail etc .....
but they add more weight. The fuselage ground has more area than your
ground cable to the cockpit so that's something else to consider.
My only caution ....... do not scrimp on the cable from the battery to
the starter. That's the wrong place to save weight. If you can get
some welding cable, that would be better as they have many more strands
than standard heavy-duty wire.
Best of luck,
Linn
Scott Schmidt wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt"
<sschmidt@ussynthetic.com> <mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
I had planned on running 2 AWG wire for both + and - from two Odyssey
680 batteries in the rear. I thought that the Aeroelectric book
recommended that but if I don't have to than that would save some
weight. I just wasn't sure how I would ground it in the back. I worry
that the ground during startup won't be solid. My thoughts are to take
the negative ground from the battery to the grounding block. That way,
everything will be grounded in the same spot except the nav lights,
heated pitot, and anything else that Knuckles says that won't cause any
noise in the system. But basically everything will be grounded at the
firewall.
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
<mailto:schmoboy@cox.net>
Where is everyone placing their battery buss? Are you using 2AWG for +
and - going up to the firewall?
-Sean #40303
Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com> <mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Tim,
Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a
pair of
smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of
the
additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in
the
related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact
implementation
and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that
you're
considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
redundancy.
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Olson
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:52 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
<mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V
conditioned
and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go
that
route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger
hooked
up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think
once
I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
be moving quite fast again.
Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rick wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick
<ricksked@earthlink.net> <mailto:ricksked@earthlink.net>
Tim,
I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one
out and see,
if
has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying
around.
rick S.
40185
Wings
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Star washer I presume. They are round with edges bent up to really dig in and
lock/make good contact.
<http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0006JHYD6.01-A2TA1K4B0Y2H77._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg>
Michael
do not archive
________________________________
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
What is a star?
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn walters
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
Like everything, there's good and bad. The airframe makes a great ground. Just
use a star (inside or outside, doesn't matter) between the ring terminal (for
whatever size wire you use) and the frame. This assures you have a good mechanical
connection. Some electrical grease won't hurt either and may prevent
corrosion problems down the road. And you save weight as has been noted. Everywhere.
If you elect to run cable forward to a ground block near the panel, you're assured
of a good ground for your electronics. Now you have to decide if you want
to run ground wires out to the wings, tail etc ..... but they add more weight.
The fuselage ground has more area than your ground cable to the cockpit so
that's something else to consider.
My only caution ....... do not scrimp on the cable from the battery to the starter.
That's the wrong place to save weight. If you can get some welding cable,
that would be better as they have many more strands than standard heavy-duty
wire.
Best of luck,
Linn
Scott Schmidt wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" <sschmidt@ussynthetic.com> <mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
I had planned on running 2 AWG wire for both + and - from two Odyssey
680 batteries in the rear. I thought that the Aeroelectric book
recommended that but if I don't have to than that would save some
weight. I just wasn't sure how I would ground it in the back. I worry
that the ground during startup won't be solid. My thoughts are to take
the negative ground from the battery to the grounding block. That way,
everything will be grounded in the same spot except the nav lights,
heated pitot, and anything else that Knuckles says that won't cause any
noise in the system. But basically everything will be grounded at the
firewall.
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net> <mailto:schmoboy@cox.net>
Where is everyone placing their battery buss? Are you using 2AWG for +
and - going up to the firewall?
-Sean #40303
Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com> <mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Tim,
Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
redundancy.
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:52 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> <mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
be moving quite fast again.
Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rick wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> <mailto:ricksked@earthlink.net>
Tim,
I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and
see,
if
has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
rick S.
40185
Wings
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
A) A thing in the sky that twinkles.
B) A "Standard Arrival"
C) A typo when trying to say "Star washer"
;)
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Scott Schmidt wrote:
> What is a star?
>
>
>
> Scott Schmidt
>
> sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *linn walters
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:16 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
>
>
> Like everything, there's good and bad. The airframe makes a great
> ground. Just use a star (inside or outside, doesn't matter) between the
> ring terminal (for whatever size wire you use) and the frame. This
> assures you have a good mechanical connection. Some electrical grease
> won't hurt either and may prevent corrosion problems down the road. And
> you save weight as has been noted. Everywhere.
>
> If you elect to run cable forward to a ground block near the panel,
> you're assured of a good ground for your electronics. Now you have to
> decide if you want to run ground wires out to the wings, tail etc .....
> but they add more weight. The fuselage ground has more area than your
> ground cable to the cockpit so that's something else to consider.
>
> My only caution ....... do not scrimp on the cable from the battery to
> the starter. That's the wrong place to save weight. If you can get
> some welding cable, that would be better as they have many more strands
> than standard heavy-duty wire.
>
> Best of luck,
> Linn
>
>
> Scott Schmidt wrote:
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" <sschmidt@ussynthetic.com> <mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
>
>
>
> I had planned on running 2 AWG wire for both + and - from two Odyssey
>
> 680 batteries in the rear. I thought that the Aeroelectric book
>
> recommended that but if I don't have to than that would save some
>
> weight. I just wasn't sure how I would ground it in the back. I worry
>
> that the ground during startup won't be solid. My thoughts are to take
>
> the negative ground from the battery to the grounding block. That way,
>
> everything will be grounded in the same spot except the nav lights,
>
> heated pitot, and anything else that Knuckles says that won't cause any
>
> noise in the system. But basically everything will be grounded at the
>
> firewall.
>
>
>
> Scott Schmidt
>
> sschmidt@ussynthetic.com <mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
>
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:01 PM
>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net> <mailto:schmoboy@cox.net>
>
>
>
> Where is everyone placing their battery buss? Are you using 2AWG for +
>
> and - going up to the firewall?
>
>
>
> -Sean #40303
>
>
>
> Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
>>
>>
>
> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> <mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
>
>
>>Tim,
>>
>>
>>
>>Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
>>
>>smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
>>
>>additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
>>
>>related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
>>
>>and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
>>
>>considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
>>
>>redundancy.
>>
>>
>>
>>Bob #40105
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
>>
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>>
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:52 AM
>>
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>
>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>>
>>
>>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> <mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
>>
>>and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
>>
>>can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
>>
>>got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
>>
>>route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
>>
>>pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
>>
>>up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
>>
>>in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
>>
>>slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
>>
>>I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
>>
>>be moving quite fast again.
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
>>
>>
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
>>
>>Current project: Fuselage
>>
>>
>>
>>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Rick wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> <mailto:ricksked@earthlink.net>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Tim,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see,
>>>
>>>
>>
> if
>
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>rick S.
>>>
>>>40185
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>>>Wings
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Scott Schmidt wrote:
> What is a star?
>
It's a celestial body that reflects light to make it visible.
Oh, sorry. Wrong star. That should have been star (inside or outside,
doesn't matter) WASHER!!!!
At least I know someone read it!!!
Thanks Scott!
Linn
>
>
> Scott Schmidt
>
> sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn walters
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:16 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
>
>
> Like everything, there's good and bad. The airframe makes a great
> ground. Just use a star (inside or outside, doesn't matter) between
> the ring terminal (for whatever size wire you use) and the frame.
> This assures you have a good mechanical connection. Some electrical
> grease won't hurt either and may prevent corrosion problems down the
> road. And you save weight as has been noted. Everywhere.
>
> If you elect to run cable forward to a ground block near the panel,
> you're assured of a good ground for your electronics. Now you have to
> decide if you want to run ground wires out to the wings, tail etc
> ..... but they add more weight. The fuselage ground has more area
> than your ground cable to the cockpit so that's something else to
> consider.
>
> My only caution ....... do not scrimp on the cable from the battery to
> the starter. That's the wrong place to save weight. If you can get
> some welding cable, that would be better as they have many more
> strands than standard heavy-duty wire.
>
> Best of luck,
> Linn
>
>
> Scott Schmidt wrote:
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" <sschmidt@ussynthetic.com> <mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
>
>
>
>I had planned on running 2 AWG wire for both + and - from two Odyssey
>
>680 batteries in the rear. I thought that the Aeroelectric book
>
>recommended that but if I don't have to than that would save some
>
>weight. I just wasn't sure how I would ground it in the back. I worry
>
>that the ground during startup won't be solid. My thoughts are to take
>
>the negative ground from the battery to the grounding block. That way,
>
>everything will be grounded in the same spot except the nav lights,
>
>heated pitot, and anything else that Knuckles says that won't cause any
>
>noise in the system. But basically everything will be grounded at the
>
>firewall.
>
>
>
>Scott Schmidt
>
>sschmidt@ussynthetic.com <mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
>
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:01 PM
>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
>
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net> <mailto:schmoboy@cox.net>
>
>
>
>Where is everyone placing their battery buss? Are you using 2AWG for +
>
>and - going up to the firewall?
>
>
>
>-Sean #40303
>
>
>
>Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
>>
>>
>>
><bob.condrey@baesystems.com> <mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
>
>
>>Tim,
>>
>>
>>
>>Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
>>
>>smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
>>
>>additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
>>
>>related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
>>
>>and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
>>
>>considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
>>
>>redundancy.
>>
>>
>>
>>Bob #40105
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
>>
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>>
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:52 AM
>>
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>
>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>>
>>
>>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> <mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
>>
>>and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
>>
>>can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
>>
>>got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
>>
>>route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
>>
>>pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
>>
>>up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
>>
>>in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
>>
>>slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
>>
>>I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
>>
>>be moving quite fast again.
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
>>
>>
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
>>
>>Current project: Fuselage
>>
>>
>>
>>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Rick wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> <mailto:ricksked@earthlink.net>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Tim,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>if
>
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>rick S.
>>>
>>>40185
>>>
>>>Wings
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| Subject: | NO. OF FLYING RV 10'S |
VANS HOBBS METER HAS CLICKED UP TO 14
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| Subject: | Flying RV-10's - 14 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
I don't know the order but here is the list from the FAA data base:
(1/2) Vans Aircraft
Marshall B Alexander
Charles P Bennett III
George S Chaudoin
Albert P Cook
(4) Randel J Debauw
Joseph R Elliott
James Headberg
Paul C Irlbeck
John M Nys
John Quinn
Stephen Saint
Vic Syracuse
Maybe someone could put these in correct order?
Thanks, Jim Combs
#40192
N312F
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Purchase |
It actually doesn't reflect light, it generates light.
----- Original Message -----
From: linn walters<mailto:lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
Scott Schmidt wrote:
What is a star?
It's a celestial body that reflects light to make it visible.
Oh, sorry. Wrong star. That should have been star (inside or outside, doesn't
matter) WASHER!!!!
At least I know someone read it!!!
Thanks Scott!
Linn
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com<mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] On Behalf Of linn walters
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:16 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
Like everything, there's good and bad. The airframe makes a great ground.
Just use a star (inside or outside, doesn't matter) between the ring terminal
(for whatever size wire you use) and the frame. This assures you have a good
mechanical connection. Some electrical grease won't hurt either and may prevent
corrosion problems down the road. And you save weight as has been noted.
Everywhere.
If you elect to run cable forward to a ground block near the panel, you're
assured of a good ground for your electronics. Now you have to decide if you
want to run ground wires out to the wings, tail etc ..... but they add more weight.
The fuselage ground has more area than your ground cable to the cockpit
so that's something else to consider.
My only caution ....... do not scrimp on the cable from the battery to the
starter. That's the wrong place to save weight. If you can get some welding
cable, that would be better as they have many more strands than standard heavy-duty
wire.
Best of luck,
Linn
Scott Schmidt wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" <sschmidt@ussynthetic.com><mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com> I had planned on running 2 AWG wire for both + and - from two Odyssey680 batteries in the rear. I thought that the Aeroelectric bookrecommended that but if I don't have to than that would save someweight. I just wasn't sure how I would ground it in the back. I worrythat the ground during startup won't be solid. My thoughts are to takethe negative ground from the battery to the grounding block. That way,everything will be grounded in the same spot except the nav lights,heated pitot, and anything else that Knuckles says that won't cause anynoise in the system. But basically everything will be grounded at thefirewall. Scott Schmidtsschmidt@ussynthetic.com<mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>-----Original Message-----From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] On Behalf Of Sean StephensSent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:01 PMTo: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net><mailto:schmoboy@cox.net> Where is everyone placing their battery buss? Are you using 2AWG for + and - going up to the firewall? -Sean #40303 Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com><mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Tim, Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair ofsmaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of theadditional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in therelated additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementationand you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you'reconsidering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer ofredundancy. Bob #40105 -----Original Message-----From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] On Behalf Of Tim OlsonSent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:52 AMTo: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com><mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com> Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditionedand regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply thatcan push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Steingot a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go thatroute, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as wellpick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hookedup at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a batteryin the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are goingslow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think onceI finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'llbe moving quite fast again. Thanks to all for your input on the batteries. Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170Current project: Fuselage DO NOT ARCHIVE Rick wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net><mailto:ricksked@earthlink.net> Tim, I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see, if has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around. rick S.40185Wings
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
I just bought a bunch of 3/32 from PanAm tools, .32 each.
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob.kaufmann
Subject: RE: RV10-List: clecoes
--> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
Pan American tools, I think was 24 cents. Bob K
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Subject: Re: RV10-List: clecoes
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Try Aircraft tool supply, I think they may be $.32 Welcome to the world of
cleco sticker shock.
Rick S.
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| Subject: | Flying RV-10's - 14 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
Order by flight date or serial number. I know John Cox can do it. He has
a data base of everyone whom has popped up on the lists. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Combs
Subject: RV10-List: Flying RV-10's - 14
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
I don't know the order but here is the list from the FAA data base:
(1/2) Vans Aircraft
Marshall B Alexander
Charles P Bennett III
George S Chaudoin
Albert P Cook
(4) Randel J Debauw
Joseph R Elliott
James Headberg
Paul C Irlbeck
John M Nys
John Quinn
Stephen Saint
Vic Syracuse
Maybe someone could put these in correct order?
Thanks, Jim Combs
#40192
N312F
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--> RV10-List message posted by: LarryRosen@comcast.net
Brown tool <http://www.browntool.com/> should have them for $0.30 each new with free shipping on orders over $85
or, www.CountrySidewalk.com (look under tool shed) has used clecos for $0.25, but watch out for the shipping changes
Larry Rosen
#356
http://rv10pilot.home.comcast.net/
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
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> Pan American tools, I think was 24 cents. Bob K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:02 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: clecoes
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
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> Try Aircraft tool supply, I think they may be $.32 Welcome to the world of
> cleco sticker shock.
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| Subject: | Battery Purchase |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Leach" <papadaddyo@verizon.net>
Carl, add one more to the list that would like to have the diagram.
Rick Leach
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Froehlich
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich"
<carl.froehlich@cox.net>
I have a pair of Odyssey PC-625's in my RV-8A. The install supports
dual
electronic ignitions and an all electric panel. The design is based on
being able to continue IFR flight with the lost of the alternator and
one
battery until fuel exhaustion. If interested I'll send the power
distribution diagram.
Although the normal mode is to have both batteries on line, I have done
some
single battery op tests. One battery spins my O-360 just fine.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (200 hrs), RV-10 on the wish list
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
(US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Tim,
Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
redundancy.
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
be moving quite fast again.
Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Tim,
>
> I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see, if
has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
>
> rick S.
> 40185
> Wings
>
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| Subject: | Battery Purchase |
You just gotta love this group...! Indeed.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cram
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
It actually doesn't reflect light, it generates light.
----- Original Message -----
From: linn <mailto:lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> walters
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
Scott Schmidt wrote:
What is a star?
It's a celestial body that reflects light to make it visible.
Oh, sorry. Wrong star. That should have been star (inside or outside,
doesn't matter) WASHER!!!!
At least I know someone read it!!!
Thanks Scott!
Linn
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn walters
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
Like everything, there's good and bad. The airframe makes a great ground.
Just use a star (inside or outside, doesn't matter) between the ring
terminal (for whatever size wire you use) and the frame. This assures you
have a good mechanical connection. Some electrical grease won't hurt either
and may prevent corrosion problems down the road. And you save weight as
has been noted. Everywhere.
If you elect to run cable forward to a ground block near the panel, you're
assured of a good ground for your electronics. Now you have to decide if
you want to run ground wires out to the wings, tail etc ..... but they add
more weight. The fuselage ground has more area than your ground cable to
the cockpit so that's something else to consider.
My only caution ....... do not scrimp on the cable from the battery to the
starter. That's the wrong place to save weight. If you can get some
welding cable, that would be better as they have many more strands than
standard heavy-duty wire.
Best of luck,
Linn
Scott Schmidt wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt"
<mailto:sschmidt@ussynthetic.com> <sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
I had planned on running 2 AWG wire for both + and - from two Odyssey
680 batteries in the rear. I thought that the Aeroelectric book
recommended that but if I don't have to than that would save some
weight. I just wasn't sure how I would ground it in the back. I worry
that the ground during startup won't be solid. My thoughts are to take
the negative ground from the battery to the grounding block. That way,
everything will be grounded in the same spot except the nav lights,
heated pitot, and anything else that Knuckles says that won't cause any
noise in the system. But basically everything will be grounded at the
firewall.
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <mailto:schmoboy@cox.net>
<schmoboy@cox.net>
Where is everyone placing their battery buss? Are you using 2AWG for +
and - going up to the firewall?
-Sean #40303
Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
<mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Tim,
Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
redundancy.
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com>
<Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
be moving quite fast again.
Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rick wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <mailto:ricksked@earthlink.net>
<ricksked@earthlink.net>
Tim,
I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see,
if
has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
rick S.
40185
Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Flying RV-10's - 14 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
More Information
(1) Vans Aircraft 1 N410RV 3/20/2003
(2) Vans Aircraft 40210 N220RV 4/13/2004
Marshall B Alexander
Charles P Bennett III 40177 N410PB 6/27/2005
George S Chaudoin
Albert P Cook 40190 N329BC 5/13/2005
(4) Randel J Debauw 40006 N610RV 4/25/2005
Joseph R Elliott
James Headberg 40142 N331JH 6/27/2005
Paul C Irlbeck 40243 N522RV 5/31/2005
John M Nys 40047 N3146S 4/27/2005
John Quinn 40175 N9862S 6/29/2005
Stephen Saint 40241 N256H 6/08/2005
Vic Syracuse 40229 N64VC 4/18/2005
Thanks, Jim Combs
#40192
N312F
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Purchase |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jay Rowe" <jfrjr@adelphia.net>
Me too Carl. Jay Rowe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Leach" <papadaddyo@verizon.net>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Leach" <papadaddyo@verizon.net>
>
> Carl, add one more to the list that would like to have the diagram.
>
> Rick Leach
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl
> Froehlich
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:03 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich"
> <carl.froehlich@cox.net>
>
> I have a pair of Odyssey PC-625's in my RV-8A. The install supports
> dual
> electronic ignitions and an all electric panel. The design is based on
> being able to continue IFR flight with the lost of the alternator and
> one
> battery until fuel exhaustion. If interested I'll send the power
> distribution diagram.
>
> Although the normal mode is to have both batteries on line, I have done
> some
> single battery op tests. One battery spins my O-360 just fine.
>
> Carl Froehlich
> RV-8A (200 hrs), RV-10 on the wish list
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
> (US SSA)
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:49 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
> Tim,
>
> Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
> smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
> additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
> related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
> and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
> considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
> redundancy.
>
> Bob #40105
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:52 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
> and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
> can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
> got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
> route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
> pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
> up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
> in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
> slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
> I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
> be moving quite fast again.
>
> Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
>
> Tim
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> Rick wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>>
>> Tim,
>>
>> I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see, if
> has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
>>
>> rick S.
>> 40185
>> Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Flying RV-10's - 14 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Robert <retiredpilot03-serv@yahoo.com>
I count only 11. What am I missing??
Robert
--- Jim Combs <jimc@mail.infra-read.com> wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs"
> <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
>
> More Information
>
> (1) Vans Aircraft 1 N410RV
> 3/20/2003
> (2) Vans Aircraft 40210 N220RV
> 4/13/2004
> Marshall B Alexander
> Charles P Bennett III 40177 N410PB
> 6/27/2005
> George S Chaudoin
> Albert P Cook 40190 N329BC
> 5/13/2005
> (4) Randel J Debauw 40006 N610RV
> 4/25/2005
> Joseph R Elliott
> James Headberg 40142 N331JH
> 6/27/2005
> Paul C Irlbeck 40243 N522RV
> 5/31/2005
> John M Nys 40047 N3146S
> 4/27/2005
> John Quinn 40175 N9862S
> 6/29/2005
> Stephen Saint 40241 N256H
> 6/08/2005
> Vic Syracuse 40229 N64VC
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| Subject: | Battery Purchase |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Dick Gurley" <rngurley@mindspring.com>
Please sent to me as well.
Thanks
Dick Gurley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Leach
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Leach" <papadaddyo@verizon.net>
Carl, add one more to the list that would like to have the diagram.
Rick Leach
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Froehlich
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich"
<carl.froehlich@cox.net>
I have a pair of Odyssey PC-625's in my RV-8A. The install supports
dual
electronic ignitions and an all electric panel. The design is based on
being able to continue IFR flight with the lost of the alternator and
one
battery until fuel exhaustion. If interested I'll send the power
distribution diagram.
Although the normal mode is to have both batteries on line, I have done
some
single battery op tests. One battery spins my O-360 just fine.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (200 hrs), RV-10 on the wish list
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
(US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Tim,
Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
redundancy.
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
be moving quite fast again.
Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Tim,
>
> I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see, if
has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
>
> rick S.
> 40185
> Wings
>
Message 24
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| Subject: | Battery Purchase |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
I would like it as well. Is the file too big to send to the list?
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Leach
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Leach" <papadaddyo@verizon.net>
Carl, add one more to the list that would like to have the diagram.
Rick Leach
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Froehlich
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich"
<carl.froehlich@cox.net>
I have a pair of Odyssey PC-625's in my RV-8A. The install supports
dual
electronic ignitions and an all electric panel. The design is based on
being able to continue IFR flight with the lost of the alternator and
one
battery until fuel exhaustion. If interested I'll send the power
distribution diagram.
Although the normal mode is to have both batteries on line, I have done
some
single battery op tests. One battery spins my O-360 just fine.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (200 hrs), RV-10 on the wish list
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
(US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Tim,
Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
redundancy.
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
be moving quite fast again.
Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Tim,
>
> I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see, if
has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
>
> rick S.
> 40185
> Wings
>
Message 25
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| Subject: | Battery Purchase |
Dudes! Tim Olson posted it on his web site! Unfortunately, I already deleted
that email with his link, so scroll backwards.
Or you can see Tim's own (very nice) power diagram on his site: http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/electrical/N104CD_Z12_Z13-8K.pdf
TDT
40025
DO NOT ARCHIVE
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Dick Gurley
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Dick Gurley" <rngurley@mindspring.com>
Please sent to me as well.
Thanks
Dick Gurley
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Leach
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Leach" <papadaddyo@verizon.net>
Carl, add one more to the list that would like to have the diagram.
Rick Leach
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Froehlich
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich"
<carl.froehlich@cox.net>
I have a pair of Odyssey PC-625's in my RV-8A. The install supports
dual
electronic ignitions and an all electric panel. The design is based on
being able to continue IFR flight with the lost of the alternator and
one
battery until fuel exhaustion. If interested I'll send the power
distribution diagram.
Although the normal mode is to have both batteries on line, I have done
some
single battery op tests. One battery spins my O-360 just fine.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (200 hrs), RV-10 on the wish list
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
(US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Tim,
Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
redundancy.
Bob #40105
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
be moving quite fast again.
Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current project: Fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Tim,
>
> I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see, if
has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
>
> rick S.
> 40185
> Wings
>
Message 26
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Purchase |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Hey, Guys....
Carl's Power diagram is posted at:
http://www.myrv10.com/files/electrical/schematics/716RV_wiring_diag.ppt
That should save him emailing it out one-by-one.
Tim
Dick Gurley wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Dick Gurley" <rngurley@mindspring.com>
>
> Please sent to me as well.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dick Gurley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Leach
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:10 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Leach" <papadaddyo@verizon.net>
>
> Carl, add one more to the list that would like to have the diagram.
>
> Rick Leach
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl
> Froehlich
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 2:03 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich"
> <carl.froehlich@cox.net>
>
> I have a pair of Odyssey PC-625's in my RV-8A. The install supports
> dual
> electronic ignitions and an all electric panel. The design is based on
> being able to continue IFR flight with the lost of the alternator and
> one
> battery until fuel exhaustion. If interested I'll send the power
> distribution diagram.
>
> Although the normal mode is to have both batteries on line, I have done
> some
> single battery op tests. One battery spins my O-360 just fine.
>
> Carl Froehlich
> RV-8A (200 hrs), RV-10 on the wish list
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
> (US SSA)
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:49 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
> Tim,
>
> Another option is the route I'm going - I decided to go with a pair of
> smaller PC-680s and use the Z-14 approach. Weight penalty of the
> additional battery is only ~6 pounds over the Concorde. Add in the
> related additional contactor(s) depending on the exact implementation
> and you're far lighter than the big Odyssey batteries that you're
> considering. Upside is that you'll get an additional layer of
> redundancy.
>
> Bob #40105
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:52 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Purchase
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Oh the supply of 12V isn't a problem....I have a 3A 12V conditioned
> and regulated supply. The problem is that I want a supply that
> can push maybe 20-25A continuous for 15 minutes or more. Stein
> got a couple good ones for OSH...man were they big. I can go that
> route, but I figured if I needed a battery anyway, I may as well
> pick one up and just use it and have my 10A battery charger hooked
> up at the same time. I'm hoping that I'll be needing a battery
> in the plane by the end of the year anyway. Things are going
> slow right now, but I'm on multiple task branches....I think once
> I finsish some of these branches and focus on single tasks, I'll
> be moving quite fast again.
>
> Thanks to all for your input on the batteries.
>
> Tim
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> Current project: Fuselage
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> Rick wrote:
>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>>
>>Tim,
>>
>>I use a computer power supply for bench work, pull one out and see, if
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> has a nice 12v power output and I'll bet you have one lying around.
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>>rick S.
>>40185
>>Wings
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| Subject: | Flying RV-10's - 14 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
-> RV10-List message posted by: Robert <retiredpilot03-serv@yahoo.com>
I count only 11. What am I missing??
Robert
There's 2 in CO, Burlington or something, Stewart (?) N104ME and Larry
Feldhousen N104LJ I think.
Albert Gardner
Yuma,
AZ
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