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1. 02:13 AM - Re: Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with aerobatics) (Scott Lewis)
2. 06:48 AM - Re: Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with aerobatics) (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
3. 08:27 AM - Re: RV10-List Digest: 57 Msgs - 08/18/05 (Buhwana)
4. 08:34 AM - Re: Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with aerobatics) (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
5. 08:56 AM - Wing storage racks (Chris Hukill)
6. 09:07 AM - Wing storage racks (Chris Hukill)
7. 09:08 AM - Re: Getting Trim System to work (Scott Schmidt)
8. 09:23 AM - Re: Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with (JOHN STARN)
9. 09:32 AM - Re: Wing storage racks (Rick)
10. 09:35 AM - Re: Getting Trim System to work (Sean Stephens)
11. 09:54 AM - Re: Wing storage racks (Russell Daves)
12. 10:30 AM - Re: Wing storage racks (bob.kaufmann)
13. 10:30 AM - Re: Wing storage racks (bob.kaufmann)
14. 10:32 AM - Re: Getting Trim System to work (John W. Cox)
15. 10:33 AM - Looking for a builder in Boulder Co (Jim Combs)
16. 10:35 AM - Re: Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with aerobatics) (Jim Combs)
17. 12:02 PM - Re: Getting Trim System to work (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
18. 12:14 PM - Tailcone Thank You (Kent Forsythe)
19. 02:17 PM - Oops rivets (Rick Leach)
20. 02:47 PM - Re: Oops rivets (Rick)
21. 04:30 PM - Re: Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with aerobatics) (Mani Ravee)
22. 06:12 PM - Elevator trim travel (John Hasbrouck)
23. 08:04 PM - Re: Getting Trim System to work (Robert G. Wright)
24. 08:49 PM - Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube (John Erickson)
25. 09:00 PM - Re: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube (Sean Stephens)
26. 09:28 PM - Re: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube (bob.kaufmann)
27. 10:06 PM - Re: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube (JOHN STARN)
28. 10:17 PM - Re: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube (bob.kaufmann)
29. 10:58 PM - Re: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube (JOHN STARN)
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| Subject: | Re: Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with aerobatics) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Scott Lewis <rv10@tpg.com.au>
Hey Kent,
I wouldn't be too worried about a slight gap. The curve on my left side
skin wasn't complete and with the skin clecoed on the sides (not on the
bottom edge) it stood out about an inch. After rolling the curve more I
ended up with a very wavy edge that still sat about 1/16-1/8" out, even
when clecoed.
When I came to rivet it, I back riveted the rivets, with the large,
round-faced bucking bar on the manufactured head and with the bucker
providing firm pressure. It came together very nicely and you can't
tell that it used to look awful, it sits dead flush.
Besides that - remember that it is the bottom of the plane and once
painted you are unlikely to notice a gap that small anyway, and no one
will look.
Have fun,
Scott Lewis
RV-10 40172 VH-DRS
Adelaide, South Australia
Kent Forsythe wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kent Forsythe
> <matronix.rv10@4sythe.com>
>
> I just started the final assembly of my tailcone (ie. all parts
> drilled, dimpled and primed) and I have clecoed the assembly back
> together. When I look at where the side skins overlap the bottom
> skin, their seems to be a slight gap. I realized that I did not run
> my edge seamer down the side skins to put a slight bend on them. The
> problem is that with the skin already dimpled, the seamer will not
> run down the edge without running over the dimples (and probably
> flattening them out). One side looks ok but the other side has maybe
> a 1/64th gap that I am not sure will come down when I rivet.
>
> One thought I had was to un-cleco each side (one at a time) to
> release the pressure on that curve, and then rivet the line of rivets
> that joins the two skins. I think that will bring it down tight.
> After that, re-cleco and continue as normal. Am I asking for trouble
> rivetting those skins together without the sizes being fully clecoed?
>
>
> Anyone have any ideas. I am open to suggestions.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Kent Forsythe www.4sythe.com 40338 Tailcone
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| Subject: | Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with aerobatics) |
C'mon now, that's just plain mean. Sending him to Ken Scott like that. That's
indicating a unusual attitude for the list. LMAO.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with aerobatics)
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Kent,
If you have a hand seamer you can use it to put a slight bend into the sheet. I've
done this in several areas and it works fine. Try it out on a piece of scrap
to get the feel but you only need a little bend to make it happen.
And please in the future when your refer to gap distances, use decimal instead
of frational measurements. .015625 of an inch sounds so small compared to 1/64".
Call Vans, and ask for Ken Scott...then tell him your concerns...lol...let
us know what he says.
Rick S.
40185
Wings level
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List Digest: 57 Msgs - 08/18/05 |
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From what I've learned about this event the marketing department
never approved the roll. When Tex landed he was met by the CEO (I
think, or some big cheese) of Boeing and when he descended the stairs
the CEO asked Tex, "What the hell you think your doing", to which Tex
replied "Trying to sell airplanes". The CEO replied something to the
effect, "Well ever do it again and your fired". Or so the story goed.
Tom
an RV-wana-be lurker
> His son (Mr. Johnson that is) mentioned that the maneuver was
> practiced for days
> before SeaFair. Just done off the Straits of Juan DeFuca (out of
> prying eyes)
> so it looked spontaneous. Oh how those marketing guys can
> manipulate us little
> kids.
>
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| Subject: | Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with aerobatics) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
No one will look? Every time I see an Rv, I get down on my hands and
knee's and look at the underside, you can tell how much attention to
detail the builder had....Not, it is impolite to look up a lady's dress,
just as it is not a good idea to point out people's mistakes on their
plane, it is just not kosher..at least not if you want to keep friends.
Definitely DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Lewis
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with
aerobatics)
--> RV10-List message posted by: Scott Lewis <rv10@tpg.com.au>
Hey Kent,
I wouldn't be too worried about a slight gap. The curve on my left side
skin wasn't complete and with the skin clecoed on the sides (not on the
bottom edge) it stood out about an inch. After rolling the curve more I
ended up with a very wavy edge that still sat about 1/16-1/8" out, even
when clecoed.
When I came to rivet it, I back riveted the rivets, with the large,
round-faced bucking bar on the manufactured head and with the bucker
providing firm pressure. It came together very nicely and you can't
tell that it used to look awful, it sits dead flush.
Besides that - remember that it is the bottom of the plane and once
painted you are unlikely to notice a gap that small anyway, and no one
will look.
Have fun,
Scott Lewis
RV-10 40172 VH-DRS
Adelaide, South Australia
Kent Forsythe wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kent Forsythe
> <matronix.rv10@4sythe.com>
>
> I just started the final assembly of my tailcone (ie. all parts
> drilled, dimpled and primed) and I have clecoed the assembly back
> together. When I look at where the side skins overlap the bottom
> skin, their seems to be a slight gap. I realized that I did not run
> my edge seamer down the side skins to put a slight bend on them. The
> problem is that with the skin already dimpled, the seamer will not
> run down the edge without running over the dimples (and probably
> flattening them out). One side looks ok but the other side has maybe
> a 1/64th gap that I am not sure will come down when I rivet.
>
> One thought I had was to un-cleco each side (one at a time) to
> release the pressure on that curve, and then rivet the line of rivets
> that joins the two skins. I think that will bring it down tight.
> After that, re-cleco and continue as normal. Am I asking for trouble
> rivetting those skins together without the sizes being fully clecoed?
>
>
> Anyone have any ideas. I am open to suggestions.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Kent Forsythe www.4sythe.com 40338 Tailcone
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| Subject: | Wing storage racks |
Thanks for the ideas. I need to build the racks as compact as possible, as they will live under my RV8, that is on an aerolift, in my hanger. I need to roll everything outside the hangar to lower the 8 to go fly, and there is very limited space. Could someone please measure their wings and tell me the length, without tips installed, the distance from the forward side of the spar to the leading edge (strait line), and the distance from the aft side of the spar to the trailing edge (flaps and ailerons not on). These measurements should allow me to build my rack as compact as possible, as I will not use it for construction, only storage. Thanks again in advance, and if anyone is interested, check out my RV8 website. http://members.cox.net/cjhukill/
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| Subject: | Wing storage racks |
Whoops, I also need the thickness of the wing, at the spar!
Chris Hukill
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| Subject: | Getting Trim System to work |
I was at home beefing up my main spar and installing a Citation jet
engine. All this talk got me thinking what I could do with an
additional 2000 lbs of thrust. I bet I could scare the crap out of the
people in the back seat.
Well, actually I went home and worked on the main wheel pants. I am
really getting tired of all this fiberglass work. I am also finalizing
my design of the oil door. I am going to use a system like the Lancair
guys do. You will reach up inside the cowling and pull on a wire that
will pop the door open. That way there will be no hinges or latches
seen on the outside. These modifications take so much extra time but
they are fun. Here is a picture of what I am talking about.
Have a great weekend building. I am actually going to go hiking this
weekend in Zion's National Park.
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Getting Trim System to work
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Where were you all afternoon!!!.
That was a great post....thanks Scott. I've looped an F-4 and an
F-16...but they don't really care which way is up....Well that's not
true but I will leave it at that.
Rick S.
40185
Wings
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aerobatics)
| Subject: | Re: Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with |
aerobatics)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Well during the building of HRII "we" (I take the blame for everything that
goes wrong) there was an extra hole drilled on the lower part of one side of
the rudder. What to do ?? What to do ??. We filled the hole with a
"pop"rivet. Then drilled a second hole on the other side of the rudder in
exactly the same place & "pop" riveted it too. Now then we get some "looky
lue" asked "what's that for, I don't have THAT". We answer "You mean you
didn't get the emergency AD ??" (pause...pause) "and your flying it that
way. ??"
KABONG 8*)
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> No one will look? Every time I see an Rv, I get down on my hands and
> knee's and look at the underside, you can tell how much attention to
> detail the builder had....Not, it is impolite to look up a lady's dress,
> just as it is not a good idea to point out people's mistakes on their
> plane, it is just not kosher..at least not if you want to keep friends.
> Definitely DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Wing storage racks |
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| Subject: | Re: Getting Trim System to work |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
Scott,
Where do you "reach up inside the cowl"? I'm trying to imagine where
that would be.
Thanks...
-Sean #40303 (finishing right outboard leading edge)
Scott Schmidt wrote:
> I was at home beefing up my main spar and installing a Citation jet
> engine. All this talk got me thinking what I could do with an
> additional 2000 lbs of thrust. I bet I could scare the crap out of the
> people in the back seat.
>
> Well, actually I went home and worked on the main wheel pants. I am
> really getting tired of all this fiberglass work. I am also finalizing
> my design of the oil door. I am going to use a system like the Lancair
> guys do. You will reach up inside the cowling and pull on a wire that
> will pop the door open. That way there will be no hinges or latches
> seen on the outside. These modifications take so much extra time but
> they are fun. Here is a picture of what I am talking about.
>
> Have a great weekend building. I am actually going to go hiking this
> weekend in Zion's National Park.
>
> Scott Schmidt
> sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:02 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Getting Trim System to work
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Where were you all afternoon!!!.
>
> That was a great post....thanks Scott. I've looped an F-4 and an
> F-16...but they don't really care which way is up....Well that's not
> true but I will leave it at that.
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
> Wings
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Wing storage racks |
The length of the RV-10 QB wings without the tips is 12' plus 5" for the spar.
The thickness of the wing at the spar is 9".
The distance from the front edge of the spar to the trailing edge of the wing
is 30" (without flaps) and the distance from the front edge of the spar to the
leading edge is about 20"
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Hukill
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 11:12 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Wing storage racks
Whoops, I also need the thickness of the wing, at the spar!
Chris Hukill
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| Subject: | Wing storage racks |
Call me on the cell. Bob K
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill
Subject: RV10-List: Wing storage racks
Whoops, I also need the thickness of the wing, at the spar!
Chris Hukill
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| Subject: | Wing storage racks |
Chris
If you are at your hanger today, I'll swing by, going to be at VGT anyway.
Bob K
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill
Subject: RV10-List: Wing storage racks
Whoops, I also need the thickness of the wing, at the spar!
Chris Hukill
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| Subject: | Getting Trim System to work |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Sean, the flex cable is often routed forward to the High Pressure Cowl
induction inlet opening, down to the bottom towards a lower cowl opening
point or safety forbid, through the integrity of the firewall and into
the cockpit for ease of release.
I have pictures of many of these solutions and will send to Tim if
desire warrants.
John - KUAO
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Getting Trim System to work
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
Scott,
Where do you "reach up inside the cowl"? I'm trying to imagine where
that would be.
Thanks...
-Sean #40303 (finishing right outboard leading edge)
Scott Schmidt wrote:
> I was at home beefing up my main spar and installing a Citation jet
> engine. All this talk got me thinking what I could do with an
> additional 2000 lbs of thrust. I bet I could scare the crap out of
the
> people in the back seat.
>
> Well, actually I went home and worked on the main wheel pants. I am
> really getting tired of all this fiberglass work. I am also
finalizing
> my design of the oil door. I am going to use a system like the
Lancair
> guys do. You will reach up inside the cowling and pull on a wire that
> will pop the door open. That way there will be no hinges or latches
> seen on the outside. These modifications take so much extra time but
> they are fun. Here is a picture of what I am talking about.
>
> Have a great weekend building. I am actually going to go hiking this
> weekend in Zion's National Park.
>
> Scott Schmidt
> sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:02 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Getting Trim System to work
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Where were you all afternoon!!!.
>
> That was a great post....thanks Scott. I've looped an F-4 and an
> F-16...but they don't really care which way is up....Well that's not
> true but I will leave it at that.
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
> Wings
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Looking for a builder in Boulder Co |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
I am looking for a builder in the Boulder Co area. I have a friend who is interested
in seeing an RV-10 under construction (and or possibly getting a ride).
Person is not a builder type, but may be interested in a partnership.
Please respond OFF list (JimC at Infra-Read.Com)
Thanks, Jim Combs
#40192
N312F
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| Subject: | Re: Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with aerobatics) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
Kent,
The process of riveting will most likely squeeze them up tight.
Jim C
#40192
N312F
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| Subject: | Getting Trim System to work |
I've been thinking the same thing. Except I'll probably scavenge a solenoid from
a junk yard for the baggage door also.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing ribs
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Getting Trim System to work
I was at home beefing up my main spar and installing a Citation jet engine. All
this talk got me thinking what I could do with an additional 2000 lbs of thrust.
I bet I could scare the crap out of the people in the back seat.
Well, actually I went home and worked on the main wheel pants. I am really getting
tired of all this fiberglass work. I am also finalizing my design of the
oil door. I am going to use a system like the Lancair guys do. You will reach
up inside the cowling and pull on a wire that will pop the door open. That
way there will be no hinges or latches seen on the outside. These modifications
take so much extra time but they are fun. Here is a picture of what I am
talking about.
Have a great weekend building. I am actually going to go hiking this weekend in
Zion's National Park.
Scott Schmidt
sschmidt@ussynthetic.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Getting Trim System to work
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Where were you all afternoon!!!.
That was a great post....thanks Scott. I've looped an F-4 and an F-16...but they
don't really care which way is up....Well that's not true but I will leave it
at that.
Rick S.
40185
Wings
do not archive
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| Subject: | Tailcone Thank You |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Kent Forsythe <matronix.rv10@4sythe.com>
Thanks to all that replied with advice on my tailcone skin overlap issue. There
is some good advice that I will take.
In the spirit of the week....I'd like to confirm that "rolling the skin edges"
is not an aerobatic maneuver. :-) Just kidding!
Kent Forsythe
40338
Tailcone
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick Leach <papadaddyo@verizon.net>
I know there has been a lot said about oops rivets so i appologize. I just bought
some oops rivets to have on hand. As it turns out, I need to replace a few
of the rivets on the HS spar. All of the rivets I have seem to be flush rivets.
What is the suggestion to HS spar rivets.
Thanks,
Rick Leach
40397
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Rich,
Your only option is to go up one size in diameter, the opps rivets have a 3/32
sized head on a 1/8" body. Order some universal head rivets 3/16 and 5/32 in diameter
about #6 in length so you can cut them to size or order different lengths
if you want. Be careful with the universal headed rivets because my experience
has been that you can damage the material as easily as the rivet head. A
little tip/hint is to place a piece of masking tape on the rivet head before setting
the rivet, it will help keep the set in place and works pretty well. Well
worth the effort.
Rick S.
40185
Wings
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| Subject: | Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with aerobatics) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee" <maniravee@sbcglobal.net>
Call up the Yard store. They have a salvage yard. I explained to them what I
wanted, they cut a fantastic back riveting plate for 4 $ and shipped it to
me FREE. ( with other stuff) Good stuff.
Mani Ravee, MD
Indianapolis, KUMP
#40339. N528AR
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone question (sorry...nothing to do with
aerobatics)
Boy, keeping up with this site is Timely, I'm at exactly the same point
as Kent and after reading his post, I went and checked to see how my
skins matched, I actually drove a couple (3) rivets along the seam
between the side skins and the bottom to see if it would snug down
'naturally' no joy on this end. I read Michael's post about being able
to use the Avery tool w/ the dimples. I don't have the Avery tool, but
the Cleveland ( don't know if there's a difference). My 1st reaction was
' you must be nuts there's no way to run the tool over the rivets' and
then after thinking a bit, I tried running the tool between the dimples
about 1 1\2" @ a time, it takes a little longer than the one pass prior
to dimpling, but it seemed to work out fine, I'll let you know tomorrow
when I drive some rivets.
PS. I'm taking a tip from Mike How and Sean Steven's and back riveting
as much as possible, I did the bottom skin and it worked just fine. I
stopped by the Iron salvage/supply and found a piece of 1/4" plate about
12" x 16". They charged me $15 for it. took the belt sander to it to
clean it up a bit, and I've now got a Jumbo back rivet plate!!
Deems Davis
#406 tailcone
http://www.deemsrv10.com
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| Subject: | Elevator trim travel |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
The discussion of trim tab travel ( and -10 akro ) failed to mention a
problem I encountered when I built the bracket for the trim motor. You'll
need to check for complete travel of the trim bellcrank in the slot provided
in the bracket. When I ran the trim motor to its full extension, which
would be nose up trim I believe, the bellcrank contacted the forward edge of
the slot before the motor reached its full travel. A little filing solved
the problem. Also check for clearance of the bolts on the bellcrank and
cable. Either one could limit trim movement.
John Hasbrouck
#40264 wings
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| Subject: | Getting Trim System to work |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
Sorry to have been out of the "loop" for a couple of days, but I still
wanted make a <2G weigh-in on the issue:
I rolled out of bed this morning, which entailed a twisting motion in my
back. After getting dressed, I tied my shoes with two perfectly executed
loops per boot. All the stresses in my structure that I noticed were
normal, and there has been no residual stress or deforming that I can see or
feel....
Have a great building weekend!
Rob
#392 H.S.
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| Subject: | Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube |
Folks,
Working on the ailerons, and I'm matchdrilling the aileron
counterweights through the A-1004 nose ribs (the part where you use an
extended bit). Instead of drilling a hole in the steel tube, the drill
bit is just drifting along the hole in the nose rib cutting a slot in
the softer aluminum instead. I tried stabilizing it with a finger and
realized quickly that my finger fairs less well against the drill bit
than the soft aluminum. While I wait for a couple new nose ribs from
Van's, do any of you who have been there and done that have any
suggestions for how to get the drill to stay in one place and put a hole
in the steel tube?
Thanks,
John
#40208 Working on design for aileron spades to increase roll rates for
my planned cuban 8... :)
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| Subject: | Re: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
Use a center punch at the desired location as a "starter" for the bit.
-Sean #40303
John Erickson wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Working on the ailerons, and I'm matchdrilling the aileron
> counterweights through the A-1004 nose ribs (the part where you use an
> extended bit). Instead of drilling a hole in the steel tube, the drill
> bit is just drifting along the hole in the nose rib cutting a slot in
> the softer aluminum instead. I tried stabilizing it with a finger and
> realized quickly that my finger fairs less well against the drill bit
> than the soft aluminum. While I wait for a couple new nose ribs from
> Van's, do any of you who have been there and done that have any
> suggestions for how to get the drill to stay in one place and put a
> hole in the steel tube?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
> #40208 Working on design for aileron spades to increase roll rates for
> my planned cuban 8... :)
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| Subject: | Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
Center punch works well also use a drill press and to keep the material from
"rolling" use a v block. Probably would be best to loop a clamp over the
material to keep any twist out of it. Suggest possibly tying a double Cuban
eight to also hold it tight. Be advised that to Immelman it will be
impossible. Bob K
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| Subject: | Re: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
With out a drill press and/or V block ? Drill thru with a much smaller bit
as a "starter" hole. Increase to a little bit larger and then do it again &
again 'till you have the proper size. Drill press & V block is "best".
KABONG
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From: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
>
> Center punch works well also use a drill press and to keep the material
> from
> "rolling" use a v block. Probably would be best to loop a clamp over the
> material to keep any twist out of it. Suggest possibly tying a double
> Cuban
> eight to also hold it tight. Be advised that to Immelman it will be
> impossible. Bob K
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| Subject: | Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
That's true, as any lumpshevack would know. Bob K
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHN STARN
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube
--> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
With out a drill press and/or V block ? Drill thru with a much smaller bit
as a "starter" hole. Increase to a little bit larger and then do it again &
again 'till you have the proper size. Drill press & V block is "best".
KABONG
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From: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
>
> Center punch works well also use a drill press and to keep the material
> from
> "rolling" use a v block. Probably would be best to loop a clamp over the
> material to keep any twist out of it. Suggest possibly tying a double
> Cuban
> eight to also hold it tight. Be advised that to Immelman it will be
> impossible. Bob K
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| Subject: | Re: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Lumpshevack ? ? Ask Jeeves and Webster both say this could be a misspelled
Polish word. It's got me flopping about, turning end over end and almost out
of control. 8*) KABONG Do Not Archive
>
> That's true, as any lumpshevack would know. Bob K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
>
> With out a drill press and/or V block ? Drill thru with a much smaller
> bit
> as a "starter" hole. Increase to a little bit larger and then do it again
> &
> again 'till you have the proper size. Drill press & V block is "best".
> KABONG
> Do Not Archive
>
> From: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Problems drilling the aileron counterweight tube
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