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1. 06:15 AM - Re: Antennas (Jerry Grimmonpre)
2. 07:10 AM - Re: Antennas (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
3. 07:44 AM - Re: Antennas (Dan Checkoway)
4. 08:28 AM - Re: Antennas (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
5. 08:31 AM - Re: Antennas (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
6. 08:36 AM - Re: Antennas (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
7. 09:11 AM - Re: Antennas (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 10:40 AM - Re: Antennas (Dan Checkoway)
9. 11:37 AM - Re: Antennas (Randy DeBauw)
10. 11:52 AM - Re: Antennas (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
11. 12:41 PM - Re: Antennas (David McNeill)
12. 12:52 PM - Re: Antennas (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
13. 12:58 PM - Re: Antennas (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
14. 01:12 PM - Re: Antennas (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
15. 01:20 PM - Re: Antennas (David McNeill)
16. 01:28 PM - RFI /EMI in flying 10s (David McNeill)
17. 01:32 PM - Re: Antennas (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
18. 02:00 PM - Re: Antennas (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
19. 02:46 PM - IO-540 questions (Byron Gillespie)
20. 03:00 PM - Re: IO-540 questions (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
21. 03:10 PM - Re: IO-540 questions (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
22. 03:18 PM - Re: Antennas (Larry Rosen)
23. 03:27 PM - Re: Antennas (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
24. 03:35 PM - Re: IO-540 questions (Richard Bibb)
25. 03:44 PM - Re: Antennas (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
26. 04:52 PM - Re: RV10-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 08/28/05 (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
27. 04:53 PM - Re: Antennas (LeastDrag93066@AOL.COM)
28. 06:24 PM - Re: Antennas (Rick)
29. 07:08 PM - Re: Antennas (bob.kaufmann)
30. 08:37 PM - Dimming LEDs (McGANN, Ron)
31. 09:47 PM - Anyone Know The Story Behind This Crash? (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle))
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MessageDan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna, i.e. could the longest
dimension of the antenna install parallel to the firewall so the cantilever
remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works flawlessly...although somebody did say
something about metallic paint being problematic. I can't vouch for that, just
what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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I specifically asked Bob A. about splitting the signal when trying to
decide what to do for antennas. His only comment was that you'd have
much less signal due to loss from the splitter. The nav antenna was no
more expensive than a splitter so I just decided to put a nav antenna in
each wingtip. Not sure I'll ever use both, but they're there.
Bob #40105
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
If I recall correctly (IIRC) Bob Archer states in his documentation for
the nav antenna that it may not be split as will damage the radios.
Better check that with him.
----- Original Message -----
From: CustomACProp@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Hi All,
The general plan looks good.
Bob Archer recommends that his Marker Beacon antenna should be
mounted in the same wingtip with the NAV antenna.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
In a message dated 08/27/2005 11:59:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rv10-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
Time: 09:04:30 PM PST US
From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Antennas
=09
Randy and others.
=09
I am to the point of having to commit on my antennas and
wanted to see how
yours are working.
=09
Here is my general plan.
=09
Archer Nav antenna in the right wingtip, will be shared
by a 430 and SL30
=09
Whip comm antenna on the belly
=09
Transponder antenna on the belly
=09
ELT antenna in tail
=09
Archer marker antenna in left wing tip
=09
Archer comm antenna in left wingtip
=09
GPS antenna on top of canopy or on glare shield
=09
XM radio antenna on glare shield
=09
Thanks in advance for any comments.
=09
Rene'
40322
N423CF
80% wings...10% Fuslage
801-721-6080
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MessageI don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have exposure. Check
with your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure. Don't necessarily mention
that it's going under a cowling...they might scoff at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that regard, and I'm sure you'll
get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna, i.e. could the
longest dimension of the antenna install parallel to the firewall so the cantilever
remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works flawlessly...although somebody did say
something about metallic paint being problematic. I can't vouch for that, just
what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10 having a fiberglass
top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having a 360 degree view of
the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good without the strobe
and position lights being routed over it. I don't see the point in dragging
those all the way down to the antenna either but Bob is adamant about running
them along the antenna no matter what. Any issues with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have exposure. Check with
your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure. Don't necessarily mention that
it's going under a cowling...they might scoff at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that regard, and I'm sure you'll
get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre <mailto:jerry@mc.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna, i.e. could
the longest dimension of the antenna install parallel to the firewall so the
cantilever remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works flawlessly...although somebody
did say something about metallic paint being problematic. I can't vouch
for that, just what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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As far as I know you can split them just fine. You end up with about 50% of the
signal but that's it. The thing you can not do is combine two antennas into
one thinking you will get coverage better. Big no no.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
________________________________
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
I specifically asked Bob A. about splitting the signal when trying to decide what
to do for antennas. His only comment was that you'd have much less signal
due to loss from the splitter. The nav antenna was no more expensive than a splitter
so I just decided to put a nav antenna in each wingtip. Not sure I'll
ever use both, but they're there.
Bob #40105
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
If I recall correctly (IIRC) Bob Archer states in his documentation for the nav
antenna that it may not be split as will damage the radios. Better check that
with him.
----- Original Message -----
From: CustomACProp@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Hi All,
The general plan looks good.
Bob Archer recommends that his Marker Beacon antenna should be mounted
in the same wingtip with the NAV antenna.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
In a message dated 08/27/2005 11:59:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rv10-list-digest@matronics.com
writes:
Time: 09:04:30 PM PST US
From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Antennas
=09
Randy and others.
=09
I am to the point of having to commit on my antennas and wanted
to see how
yours are working.
=09
Here is my general plan.
=09
Archer Nav antenna in the right wingtip, will be shared by a 430
and SL30
=09
Whip comm antenna on the belly
=09
Transponder antenna on the belly
=09
ELT antenna in tail
=09
Archer marker antenna in left wing tip
=09
Archer comm antenna in left wingtip
=09
GPS antenna on top of canopy or on glare shield
=09
XM radio antenna on glare shield
=09
Thanks in advance for any comments.
=09
Rene'
40322
N423CF
80% wings...10% Fuslage
801-721-6080
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Michael,
The -10 top has a layer of carbon fiber in it that will cause issues
with internal antennae.
Bob
_____
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10 having a
fiberglass top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having a 360
degree view of the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good without the
strobe and position lights being routed over it. I don't see the point
in dragging those all the way down to the antenna either but Bob is
adamant about running them along the antenna no matter what. Any issues
with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have exposure.
Check with your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure. Don't
necessarily mention that it's going under a cowling...they might scoff
at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that regard,
and I'm sure you'll get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre <mailto:jerry@mc.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna,
i.e. could the longest dimension of the antenna install parallel to the
firewall so the cantilever remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works
flawlessly...although somebody did say something about metallic paint
being problematic. I can't vouch for that, just what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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Good to know. I wasn't aware there was carbon fiber in it.
do not archive
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Michael,
The -10 top has a layer of carbon fiber in it that will cause issues with internal
antennae.
Bob
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10 having a fiberglass
top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having a 360 degree view of
the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good without the strobe
and position lights being routed over it. I don't see the point in dragging
those all the way down to the antenna either but Bob is adamant about running
them along the antenna no matter what. Any issues with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have exposure. Check with
your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure. Don't necessarily mention that
it's going under a cowling...they might scoff at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that regard, and I'm sure you'll
get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre <mailto:jerry@mc.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna, i.e. could
the longest dimension of the antenna install parallel to the firewall so the
cantilever remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works flawlessly...although somebody
did say something about metallic paint being problematic. I can't vouch
for that, just what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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MessageMy Archer wingtip NAV antenna works perfectly. Way stronger than any other
type certificated POS I've ever flown with. I wouldn't be caught dead using
a "cat whiskers" or any other external NAV antenna. 8
) It's just unnecessary expense, drag, and an eye poker.
I highly recommend the use of the Archer NAV antenna (or clone it if you're outgoing).
The Archer COMM wingtip antenna, on the other hand -- it's "good enough"
but not as strong as my bent whip belly mounted COMM antenna.
Summary:
Archer VOR wingtip antenna: 100% thumbs-up
Archer COMM wingtip antenna: 75% thumbs-up
With respect to running strobe wiring along the front of the antenna, I think that
becomes critical where the alternative would be to run your wiring *across*
the antenna -- like on the older style -6 and -8 tips. In my case, with the
sheared tips with integral lighting "notches," the strobe/position wiring goes
way forward instead of cutting across. No issue, no noise, no lost signal (that
I can detect).
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10 having a fiberglass
top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having a 360 degree view of
the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good without the strobe
and position lights being routed over it. I don't see the point in dragging
those all the way down to the antenna either but Bob is adamant about running
them along the antenna no matter what. Any issues with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:41 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have exposure. Check with
your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure. Don't necessarily mention that
it's going under a cowling...they might scoff at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that regard, and I'm sure you'll
get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna, i.e. could the
longest dimension of the antenna install parallel to the firewall so the cantilever
remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works flawlessly...although somebody did
say something about metallic paint being problematic. I can't vouch for that,
just what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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The only Carbon Fiber that I know of in the 10 is the 2 strips on each
door. You can see the black under the epoxy. The canopy is all epoxy
with some honeycomb material as far as I can tell. Randy
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Good to know. I wasn't aware there was carbon fiber in it.
do not archive
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
(US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Michael,
The -10 top has a layer of carbon fiber in it that will cause issues
with internal antennae.
Bob
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10 having a
fiberglass top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having a 360
degree view of the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good without the
strobe and position lights being routed over it. I don't see the point
in dragging those all the way down to the antenna either but Bob is
adamant about running them along the antenna no matter what. Any issues
with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have exposure.
Check with your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure. Don't
necessarily mention that it's going under a cowling...they might scoff
at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that regard,
and I'm sure you'll get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre <mailto:jerry@mc.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna,
i.e. could the longest dimension of the antenna install parallel to the
firewall so the cantilever remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works
flawlessly...although somebody did say something about metallic paint
being problematic. I can't vouch for that, just what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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Yeah, that "carbon fiber in the lid" might be an urban legend. Anyone ever ask
Van's directly?
If it is "transparent" to RF, you could use one of those "strip" antennas (from
AAI?) pasted above the passenger/baggage area. An RF guru friend of mine said
those are pretty good antennas.
TDT
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
The only Carbon Fiber that I know of in the 10 is the 2 strips on each door. You
can see the black under the epoxy. The canopy is all epoxy with some honeycomb
material as far as I can tell. Randy
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Good to know. I wasn't aware there was carbon fiber in it.
do not archive
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Michael,
The -10 top has a layer of carbon fiber in it that will cause issues with internal
antennae.
Bob
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10 having a fiberglass
top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having a 360 degree view of
the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good without the strobe
and position lights being routed over it. I don't see the point in dragging
those all the way down to the antenna either but Bob is adamant about running
them along the antenna no matter what. Any issues with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have exposure. Check with
your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure. Don't necessarily mention that
it's going under a cowling...they might scoff at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that regard, and I'm sure you'll
get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre <mailto:jerry@mc.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna, i.e. could the longest
dimension of the antenna install parallel to the firewall so the cantilever
remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works flawlessly...although somebody did say something
about metallic paint being problematic. I can't vouch for that, just
what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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Messagewhere is the carbon fiber? the only place I see it is the door shells.
----- Original Message -----
From: Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Michael,
The -10 top has a layer of carbon fiber in it that will cause issues with internal
antennae.
Bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:25 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10 having a fiberglass
top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having a 360 degree view of
the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good without the strobe
and position lights being routed over it. I don't see the point in dragging
those all the way down to the antenna either but Bob is adamant about running
them along the antenna no matter what. Any issues with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:41 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have exposure. Check with
your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure. Don't necessarily mention that
it's going under a cowling...they might scoff at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that regard, and I'm sure you'll
get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna, i.e. could the
longest dimension of the antenna install parallel to the firewall so the cantilever
remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works flawlessly...although somebody did
say something about metallic paint being problematic. I can't vouch for that,
just what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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I believe Van mentioned it a couple years ago at the OSH RV-10 forum -
it was part of the roll-over protection. You can definitely see a dark
internal layer with the top sitting on the floor and bright
light/sunlight behind it. It doesn't extend all the way down to the
window openings, just in the really thick part of the top.
Bob
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
where is the carbon fiber? the only place I see it is the door shells.
----- Original Message -----
From: Condrey, Bob (US SSA) <mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Michael,
The -10 top has a layer of carbon fiber in it that will cause
issues with internal antennae.
Bob
=09
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:25 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10
having a fiberglass top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having
a 360 degree view of the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good
without the strobe and position lights being routed over it. I don't
see the point in dragging those all the way down to the antenna either
but Bob is adamant about running them along the antenna no matter what.
Any issues with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
=09
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:41 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have
exposure. Check with your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure.
Don't necessarily mention that it's going under a cowling...they might
scoff at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that
regard, and I'm sure you'll get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre <mailto:jerry@mc.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS
antenna, i.e. could the longest dimension of the antenna install
parallel to the firewall so the cantilever remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna
installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works
flawlessly...although somebody did say something about metallic paint
being problematic. I can't vouch for that, just what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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Good to know. I just couldn't see that it would make any difference when there
could be almost a meter of separation in the -10 tip.
For anyone that has Bob Knuckols Aeroelectric Connection handbook and is interested
in the Archer antenna, save yourself $70 and spend the $10 in parts and
use the diagram in Bob's book to build your own. It's identical. I was wondering
if there was any difference and decided to order them anyway from Stein.
Got one and the other was on backorder, compared it to the book, promptly called
Stein and canceled the backordered one. Absolutely nothing against Stein,
he just gets them from Archer and resells them.
As far as the carbon fiber canopy goes, easy to find out just stick a GPS antenna
to the inside top. If it works no carbon.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
My Archer wingtip NAV antenna works perfectly. Way stronger than any other type
certificated POS I've ever flown with. I wouldn't be caught dead using a "cat
whiskers" or any other external NAV antenna. 8
) It's just unnecessary expense, drag, and an eye poker.
I highly recommend the use of the Archer NAV antenna (or clone it if you're outgoing).
The Archer COMM wingtip antenna, on the other hand -- it's "good enough"
but not as strong as my bent whip belly mounted COMM antenna.
Summary:
Archer VOR wingtip antenna: 100% thumbs-up
Archer COMM wingtip antenna: 75% thumbs-up
With respect to running strobe wiring along the front of the antenna, I think that
becomes critical where the alternative would be to run your wiring *across*
the antenna -- like on the older style -6 and -8 tips. In my case, with the
sheared tips with integral lighting "notches," the strobe/position wiring goes
way forward instead of cutting across. No issue, no noise, no lost signal (that
I can detect).
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <mailto:rvbuilder@sausen.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10 having a
fiberglass top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having a 360 degree
view of the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good without the
strobe and position lights being routed over it. I don't see the point in dragging
those all the way down to the antenna either but Bob is adamant about
running them along the antenna no matter what. Any issues with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:41 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
=09
=09
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have exposure. Check
with your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure. Don't necessarily mention
that it's going under a cowling...they might scoff at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that regard, and I'm sure you'll
get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre <mailto:jerry@mc.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna,
i.e. could the longest dimension of the antenna install parallel to the firewall
so the cantilever remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works flawlessly...although
somebody did say something about metallic paint being problematic. I can't
vouch for that, just what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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Ha ha! I can answer the question myself, since I drilled a couple of holes in
the roof to mount an antenna up there, and I'm looking at one of my "core samples"
right in front of me!
No carbon.
Just glass on both sides and some dense foam in the middle that varies in color
between light slightly-pinkish grey to darker, slightly-maroonish grey.
So fire away with internal antennas!
TDT
40025
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
I believe Van mentioned it a couple years ago at the OSH RV-10 forum - it was part
of the roll-over protection. You can definitely see a dark internal layer
with the top sitting on the floor and bright light/sunlight behind it. It doesn't
extend all the way down to the window openings, just in the really thick
part of the top.
Bob
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
where is the carbon fiber? the only place I see it is the door shells.
----- Original Message -----
From: Condrey, Bob (US SSA) <mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Michael,
The -10 top has a layer of carbon fiber in it that will cause issues with internal
antennae.
Bob
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10 having a fiberglass
top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having a 360 degree view of
the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good without the strobe
and position lights being routed over it. I don't see the point in dragging
those all the way down to the antenna either but Bob is adamant about running
them along the antenna no matter what. Any issues with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have exposure. Check with
your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure. Don't necessarily mention that
it's going under a cowling...they might scoff at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that regard, and I'm sure you'll
get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre <mailto:jerry@mc.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna, i.e. could the longest
dimension of the antenna install parallel to the firewall so the cantilever
remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works flawlessly...although somebody did say something
about metallic paint being problematic. I can't vouch for that, just
what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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MessageI don't think the small amount there is going to impede the GPS signal if
the antenna is mounted forward on the glare shield. The primary sats necessary
for a good fix are not those low on the horizon.
----- Original Message -----
From: Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
I believe Van mentioned it a couple years ago at the OSH RV-10 forum - it was
part of the roll-over protection. You can definitely see a dark internal layer
with the top sitting on the floor and bright light/sunlight behind it. It
doesn't extend all the way down to the window openings, just in the really thick
part of the top.
Bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 2:38 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
where is the carbon fiber? the only place I see it is the door shells.
----- Original Message -----
From: Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Michael,
The -10 top has a layer of carbon fiber in it that will cause issues with internal
antennae.
Bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:25 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10 having a fiberglass
top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having a 360 degree view
of the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good without the strobe
and position lights being routed over it. I don't see the point in dragging
those all the way down to the antenna either but Bob is adamant about running
them along the antenna no matter what. Any issues with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:41 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have exposure. Check with
your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure. Don't necessarily mention that
it's going under a cowling...they might scoff at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that regard, and I'm sure you'll
get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna, i.e. could
the longest dimension of the antenna install parallel to the firewall so the
cantilever remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works flawlessly...although somebody did
say something about metallic paint being problematic. I can't vouch for that,
just what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | RFI /EMI in flying 10s |
Anyone experiencing EMI/RFI in flying aircraft with the belly mounted RAMI AV17
com antenna? Specifically any twitching of the TT autopilot or Ray Allen trim
LED? Currently experiencing same in Glastar and am trying to deicide whether
to shield all digital traffic in the 10.
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Well when you drill into the top to put the support rod in that goes to
the fire will it doesn't have any carbon there just foam core. Randy
________________________________
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
(US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
I believe Van mentioned it a couple years ago at the OSH RV-10 forum -
it was part of the roll-over protection. You can definitely see a dark
internal layer with the top sitting on the floor and bright
light/sunlight behind it. It doesn't extend all the way down to the
window openings, just in the really thick part of the top.
Bob
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
where is the carbon fiber? the only place I see it is the door shells.
----- Original Message -----
From: Condrey, Bob (US SSA) <mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Michael,
The -10 top has a layer of carbon fiber in it that will cause
issues with internal antennae.
Bob
=09
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:25 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10
having a fiberglass top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having
a 360 degree view of the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good
without the strobe and position lights being routed over it. I don't
see the point in dragging those all the way down to the antenna either
but Bob is adamant about running them along the antenna no matter what.
Any issues with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
=09
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:41 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have
exposure. Check with your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure.
Don't necessarily mention that it's going under a cowling...they might
scoff at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that
regard, and I'm sure you'll get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre <mailto:jerry@mc.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS
antenna, i.e. could the longest dimension of the antenna install
parallel to the firewall so the cantilever remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna
installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works
flawlessly...although somebody did say something about metallic paint
being problematic. I can't vouch for that, just what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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If this is anything like I have seen on some glass aircraft, there is probably
a narrow strip that rings the canopy. Most likely something around 5 inches
wide near the aft end of the doors. For rollover support you really only need
a narrow band of a high strength material to act similar to a cage in racing
cars and transfer the force down to the longerons and around the occupants.
It doesn't need to be the whole top. Starting to sound like this may be what
Van's did.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
I believe Van mentioned it a couple years ago at the OSH RV-10 forum - it was part
of the roll-over protection. You can definitely see a dark internal layer
with the top sitting on the floor and bright light/sunlight behind it. It doesn't
extend all the way down to the window openings, just in the really thick
part of the top.
Bob
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
where is the carbon fiber? the only place I see it is the door shells.
----- Original Message -----
From: Condrey, Bob (US SSA) <mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Michael,
The -10 top has a layer of carbon fiber in it that will cause issues with
internal antennae.
Bob
=09
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 10:25 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
Another option might be some where in the cabin. With the -10 having a
fiberglass top you shouldn't have a problem. The key is having a 360 degree
view of the horizon.
Dan,
I was wondering if your Archer nav antenna is working good without the
strobe and position lights being routed over it. I don't see the point in dragging
those all the way down to the antenna either but Bob is adamant about
running them along the antenna no matter what. Any issues with yours?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
=09
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Checkoway
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:41 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
I don't believe orientation matters, as long as you have exposure. Check
with your GPS and antenna manufacturer to be sure. Don't necessarily mention
that it's going under a cowling...they might scoff at you. 8
) But ask them about exterior installations in that regard, and I'm sure you'll
get the answer you're looking for.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre <mailto:jerry@mc.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Dan ...
Are there any restrictions re: orientation of the GPS antenna,
i.e. could the longest dimension of the antenna install parallel to the firewall
so the cantilever remains short?
Jerry
7A
do not archive
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
Photos of an under-cowl GPS antenna installation:
http://www.rvproject.com/20030824.html
See the bottom of the page. It works flawlessly...although
somebody did say something about metallic paint being problematic. I can't
vouch for that, just what I heard.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (605 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | IO-540 questions |
I am looking at a rebuilt engine for purchase and have a couple
questions:
> Is there any advantage of a narrow or wide deck IO-540 configuration
(or what's the difference)?
>Mounting ears I believe need to be the # 70456 - 30 degree ears?
>When specifying the mount style for the finishing kit is the "dynafocal
I "- the typical one and again what are you looking for to tell the
difference?
>Anything else to look out for?
Thanks for all the help!
Byron # 40253 - Installing fuselage floors.
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| Subject: | IO-540 questions |
Make sure they give you all 6 cylinders and don't try to rip you off by only giving
you 5!
: )
TDT
40025
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Byron Gillespie
Subject: RV10-List: IO-540 questions
I am looking at a rebuilt engine for purchase and have a couple questions:
> Is there any advantage of a narrow or wide deck IO-540 configuration (or what's
the difference)?
>Mounting ears I believe need to be the # 70456 - 30 degree ears?
>When specifying the mount style for the finishing kit is the "dynafocal I "-
the typical one and again what are you looking for to tell the difference?
>Anything else to look out for?
Thanks for all the help!
Byron # 40253 - Installing fuselage floors.
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| Subject: | IO-540 questions |
Another engine question:
Does anyone know a good source where we can purchase rod bolts/nuts for an IO-540?
TDT
40025
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Byron Gillespie
Subject: RV10-List: IO-540 questions
I am looking at a rebuilt engine for purchase and have a couple questions:
> Is there any advantage of a narrow or wide deck IO-540 configuration (or what's
the difference)?
>Mounting ears I believe need to be the # 70456 - 30 degree ears?
>When specifying the mount style for the finishing kit is the "dynafocal I "-
the typical one and again what are you looking for to tell the difference?
>Anything else to look out for?
Thanks for all the help!
Byron # 40253 - Installing fuselage floors.
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
It seems that most 10 builders are putting there com and transponder
antennas on the belly under the baggage compartment or the rear seats.
Anyone putting there transponder or com antenna under the front floorboards?
Are you putting in any access panels to get to the antenna or wiring in
the future?
Larry Rosen
#356
Rene wrote:
> Randy and others.
>
> I am to the point of having to commit on my antennas and wanted to see
> how yours are working.
>
> Here is my general plan.
>
> Archer Nav antenna in the right wingtip, will be shared by a 430 and SL30
>
> Whip comm antenna on the belly
>
> Transponder antenna on the belly
>
> ELT antenna in tail
>
> Archer marker antenna in left wing tip
>
> Archer comm antenna in left wingtip
>
> GPS antenna on top of canopy or on glare shield
>
> XM radio antenna on glare shield
>
> Thanks in advance for any comments.
>
> Rene'
>
> 40322
>
> N423CF
>
> 80% wings..10% Fuslage
>
> 801-721-6080
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Not under the front floorboards, but under the front seats, yes, comm on left side
and transponder on the right.
Com #2 on top, at front of tailcone, with GPS behind that.
Bob Archer Nav in the wingtip.
TDT
40025
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
It seems that most 10 builders are putting there com and transponder
antennas on the belly under the baggage compartment or the rear seats.
Anyone putting there transponder or com antenna under the front floorboards?
Are you putting in any access panels to get to the antenna or wiring in
the future?
Larry Rosen
#356
Rene wrote:
> Randy and others.
>
> I am to the point of having to commit on my antennas and wanted to see
> how yours are working.
>
> Here is my general plan.
>
> Archer Nav antenna in the right wingtip, will be shared by a 430 and SL30
>
> Whip comm antenna on the belly
>
> Transponder antenna on the belly
>
> ELT antenna in tail
>
> Archer marker antenna in left wing tip
>
> Archer comm antenna in left wingtip
>
> GPS antenna on top of canopy or on glare shield
>
> XM radio antenna on glare shield
>
> Thanks in advance for any comments.
>
> Rene'
>
> 40322
>
> N423CF
>
> 80% wings..10% Fuslage
>
> 801-721-6080
>
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| Subject: | Re: IO-540 questions |
I got mine direct from ECI - www.eci2fly.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Dawson-Townsend
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:07 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: IO-540 questions
Another engine question:
Does anyone know a good source where we can purchase rod bolts/nuts for an IO-540?
TDT
40025
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Byron Gillespie
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 5:43 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: IO-540 questions
I am looking at a rebuilt engine for purchase and have a couple questions:
> Is there any advantage of a narrow or wide deck IO-540 configuration (or
what's the difference)?
>Mounting ears I believe need to be the # 70456 - 30 degree ears?
>When specifying the mount style for the finishing kit is the "dynafocal I
"- the typical one and again what are you looking for to tell the difference?
>Anything else to look out for?
Thanks for all the help!
Byron # 40253 - Installing fuselage floors.
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Personally I want to keep that mini microwave oven (otherwise known as a transponder
antenna) as far away from the cabin as possible. Although, it's not as
important in a metal aircraft compared to fiberglass but I still have a thing
about getting my molecules agitated when I fly. IFR approaches to minimum
are agitating enough. Also, not as important if you aren't having kids in the
future. ;-)
My comm antennas are a pair of Comant whips under the tail belly though. Probably
offset a little. Nav, MB, in the wingtips and GPS/Sat Radio are going under
glass somewhere.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Wing LE's
Oh ya, do not archive.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
It seems that most 10 builders are putting there com and transponder antennas on
the belly under the baggage compartment or the rear seats.
Anyone putting there transponder or com antenna under the front floorboards?
Are you putting in any access panels to get to the antenna or wiring in the future?
Larry Rosen
#356
Rene wrote:
> Randy and others.
>
> I am to the point of having to commit on my antennas and wanted to see
> how yours are working.
>
> Here is my general plan.
>
> Archer Nav antenna in the right wingtip, will be shared by a 430 and
> SL30
>
> Whip comm antenna on the belly
>
> Transponder antenna on the belly
>
> ELT antenna in tail
>
> Archer marker antenna in left wing tip
>
> Archer comm antenna in left wingtip
>
> GPS antenna on top of canopy or on glare shield
>
> XM radio antenna on glare shield
>
> Thanks in advance for any comments.
>
> Rene'
>
> 40322
>
> N423CF
>
> 80% wings.....10% Fuslage
>
> 801-721-6080
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 08/28/05 |
Hi All,
I believe what you remember is that one COM antenna should not use a
splitter for two COM radios.
It is a common practice to split the signal from one NAV antenna into two
NAV receivers. (Usually only one NAV antenna mounted outside on the factory
built aircraft.)
Regards,
Jim Ayers
PS Bob Archer has an active COM radio splitter (pn SA-010) that allows two
COM radio's to operate from one COM antenna.
In a message dated 08/28/2005 11:59:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rv10-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
Time: 12:44:39 PM PST US
From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
If I recall correctly (IIRC) Bob Archer states in his documentation for the
nav
antenna that it may not be split as will damage the radios. Better check that
with him.
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Hi All,
I believe what you remember is that one COM antenna should not use a
splitter for two COM radios.
It is a common practice to split the signal from one NAV antenna into two
NAV receivers. (Usually only one NAV antenna mounted outside on the factory
built aircraft.)
Regards,
Jim Ayers
PS Bob Archer has an active COM radio splitter (pn SA-010) that allows two
COM radio's to operate from one COM antenna.
In a message dated 08/28/2005 11:59:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
rv10-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
Time: 12:44:39 PM PST US
From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Antennas
If I recall correctly (IIRC) Bob Archer states in his documentation for the
nav
antenna that it may not be split as will damage the radios. Better check that
with him.
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick
I hate the thought of comm. Antennas under my feet. Don't you know that it
causes athletes feet and bad toe nails.
Bob K
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Antennas
lol....hanger tales of transponder antenna's frying the ol' brain are still
around, what say all about that theroy? I heard it was unfounded but I can
see why it is point of concern.
Rick S.
40185
Fuse
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G'day all,
I'm planning on using some LEDs for annunciators.
Does anyone have a useful circuit to control dimming of LEDs? I am not interested
in a PWM (or switching regulator) approach - too much risk of induced noise.
Anyone have experience with a conventional incandescent active dimmer (ala
Nuckolls) with LEDs?
Ron
#187
(still) finishing wings
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| Subject: | Anyone Know The Story Behind This Crash? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Hi Listers,
Does anyone know the story behind this aircraft and the crash? Almost
looks like an RC model especially given the cameraman's rather
unemotional comment following the crash. Kind of looks like the
elevator may have been hooked up backwards following a rebuild.
http://media4.big-boys.com/content/oldplanecrash.wmv
Any information on this video would be intersting.
Matt
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