Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:40 AM - Re: Gretz (Rob Kermanj)
2. 03:45 AM - Re: Eyeball Vents (Rob Kermanj)
3. 04:09 AM - Re: FW: Elevator question (James Hein)
4. 04:36 AM - Re: Plans revisions - Don't trust your plans (Tim Olson)
5. 05:04 AM - Re: Plans revisions - Don't trust your plans (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 05:46 AM - Re: Re: Eyeball Vents (Tim Olson)
7. 05:52 AM - Re: Friggin tank ribs (John Hasbrouck)
8. 07:57 AM - vent eyeball placement (brian bollaert)
9. 08:24 AM - Stein's email address (gengrumpy@aol.com)
10. 08:43 AM - Re: Stein's email address (Tim Olson)
11. 09:26 AM - Re: Stein's email address (BPA)
12. 09:51 AM - Re: vent eyeball placement (Tim Olson)
13. 09:55 AM - N325HP (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
14. 10:06 AM - RFI/EMI (David McNeill)
15. 10:51 AM - Re: N325HP (gengrumpy@aol.com)
16. 11:07 AM - Re: N325HP (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
17. 11:10 AM - Re: N325HP (John Jessen)
18. 12:08 PM - Re: N325HP (Brandon Yost)
19. 05:01 PM - Matronics Web Server Upgrade Today Tuesday 09/06/05 5pm PDT (Matt Dralle)
20. 05:24 PM - Re: vent eyeball placement (brian bollaert)
21. 05:30 PM - Re: RFI/EMI (John W. Cox)
22. 05:45 PM - Re: N325HP (Brian)
23. 05:54 PM - Re: Air vent location problem (John W. Cox)
24. 06:49 PM - Flap rivetting (McGANN, Ron)
25. 07:07 PM - Re: Flap rivetting (Sean Stephens)
26. 07:24 PM - Static Wicks--need suggestions (Bill and Tami Britton)
27. 07:33 PM - Re: Static Wicks--need suggestions (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Rob Kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
I have a used heated pitot tube part no AN5812-12 for sale. It heats
up really nicely but the chrome finish is worn off and brass is showing
through. It can be powder coated but cannot be chromed. Price is
$125. Anyone interested contact me by a separate email.
Rob.
On Sep 5, 2005, at 7:47 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I believe they'll be about $425 or something in that neighborhood.
> I would bet that you'll hear back after the weekend. Also try
> Stein...I know he was trying to work on being a distributor
> for Gretz, so he'd be selling them at the same price but since
> you can add other stuff to your order, it might be beneficial
> to get it with other supplies.
>
> Tim
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> John Hasbrouck wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck"
>> <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
>> For those who bought heated pitots from Gretz, how much were they?
>> I've tried to contact them by e-mail but haven't received any
>> response. Wanted a price and ordering info. Thanks
>> John Hasbrouck
>> #40264
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Eyeball Vents |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rob Kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
Are the actual Eyeball vents (the black ones) included in the finish
kit? I don't seem to find them. Thanks.
On Sep 6, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Randy DeBauw wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
>
> I agree Tim! I think you would be better off without all the
> aggravation
> having to deal with all of this. I'll make you a deal. I'll buy your
> kit
> and those junk plans, pay you for all of the extra freight charges you
> encountered. You can go fly the beloved Sundowner and no longer have to
> deal with the frustration. I call you next year when I am 3 hours out
> from Oshkosh and give you a head start so we can land at the same time.
>
> Get back to building! Say hi to the family. Randy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:39 PM
> To: RV10
> Subject: RV10-List: Plans revisions - Don't trust your plans
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> A note about revisions: You cannot trust the plans that come with your
> kit, so verify your plans revisions!!! I bought my FWF kit on
> 5/25/2005. My plans on page FF1-4 were dated something like 1/26/2005.
> One of the recent parts that I thought I was missing has turned
> up...
>
> I had almost called to complain to Van's about a missing fitting, but
> as
>
> it turned out, the plans had changed on 2/22/05, and now that fitting
> was no longer required. Don't ask me why when I purchased plans on
> 5/25, 3 months after the revision, they didn't send me a complete set
> of
>
> plans with the revision in them. This to me is another spectacular
> example of where customer service should absolutely be improved. In
> addition, it would be no major deal for any organized company to send
> out email notices to their RV-10 builders to notify them of plans
> changes.....but I suppose why bother, from what it appears, usually
> when
>
> they have problems with the plans or parts, they thend to just ignore
> the people who call and tell them anyway.
>
> I'm not trying to beat them up, but I'd think that when someone
> puts down over $40,000 with a company, they'd send them with current
> set of plans, or at least send the revision along with them.
> That said, I do check their site periodically for updates, and I
> had downloaded and printed them all. At the time, I hadn't even
> received the FWF kit plans, so the paper was still stuffed with my
> finishing kit plans, so it got overlooked. I guess I assumed that
> when you buy a kit, you're receiving the latest and greatest plans.
>
> --
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Elevator question |
--> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
Sean,
That hole is definately not on my skins. The simplest solution would
be to dimple and fill with a flush rivet.
I think maybe Van's punch press lost its mind and gave you an extra hole!
-Jim
Sean Blair wrote:
>Jim,
>
>Thanks for all the effort. I went back out to the hangar a snapped a few
>photos. It turns out that the hole is only in the top right skin, not the
>left, and just above the tenth and eleventh hole from the outboard side
>along the trailing edge. I marked it with a cleco for reference.
>
>It's strange to me why it's there, but not a big deal. A flush rivet should
>be the fix.
>
>Thanks for the input.
>
>Sean B.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Combs
>Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 5:15 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: FW: Elevator question
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
>
>Sean,
>
>I just looked at my completedd elevators. There no extra holes in either
>the top or bottom skins anywhere near the trailing edges. These are the
>ones with trim tab cutouts. Just to make sure you are referencing the
>elevator and not the rudder (or some other part)?
>
>I do have missing holes in fuselage bottom skin though, May you got them? :)
>
>Pictures if at all possible.
>
>Jim Combs
>#40192
>N312F
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Plans revisions - Don't trust your plans |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oooops, too late for that. It might be gone Friday for good.
I'm not tooooo frustrated over the plans, because they are probably
the best part about the kit. I was just surprised that with a
change done practically at the beginning of shipping that kit,
they still delivered all of their kits with a known revision
missing. The comment is mainly directed towards new builders...
be diligent, and assume you do not have the latest plans, and check
their site for all revisions....because you probably actually
do not have the latest plans, even if you're a guy just
starting his tailcone kit today.
I would have assumed differently, so I'm just hoping to save
some frustration to the 300+ people who are building after me.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Randy DeBauw wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
>
> I agree Tim! I think you would be better off without all the aggravation
> having to deal with all of this. I'll make you a deal. I'll buy your kit
> and those junk plans, pay you for all of the extra freight charges you
> encountered. You can go fly the beloved Sundowner and no longer have to
> deal with the frustration. I call you next year when I am 3 hours out
> from Oshkosh and give you a head start so we can land at the same time.
>
> Get back to building! Say hi to the family. Randy
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:39 PM
> To: RV10
> Subject: RV10-List: Plans revisions - Don't trust your plans
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> A note about revisions: You cannot trust the plans that come with your
> kit, so verify your plans revisions!!! I bought my FWF kit on
> 5/25/2005. My plans on page FF1-4 were dated something like 1/26/2005.
> One of the recent parts that I thought I was missing has turned up...
>
> I had almost called to complain to Van's about a missing fitting, but as
>
> it turned out, the plans had changed on 2/22/05, and now that fitting
> was no longer required. Don't ask me why when I purchased plans on
> 5/25, 3 months after the revision, they didn't send me a complete set of
>
> plans with the revision in them. This to me is another spectacular
> example of where customer service should absolutely be improved. In
> addition, it would be no major deal for any organized company to send
> out email notices to their RV-10 builders to notify them of plans
> changes.....but I suppose why bother, from what it appears, usually when
>
> they have problems with the plans or parts, they thend to just ignore
> the people who call and tell them anyway.
>
> I'm not trying to beat them up, but I'd think that when someone
> puts down over $40,000 with a company, they'd send them with current
> set of plans, or at least send the revision along with them.
> That said, I do check their site periodically for updates, and I
> had downloaded and printed them all. At the time, I hadn't even
> received the FWF kit plans, so the paper was still stuffed with my
> finishing kit plans, so it got overlooked. I guess I assumed that
> when you buy a kit, you're receiving the latest and greatest plans.
>
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| Subject: | Plans revisions - Don't trust your plans |
When I was planning on building a Cozy Mark IV, one of the nice things was how
Nat had set up the plans. He basically copied the idea, and deign, from Burt
because it worked so well. He had revisions of the plans and along with the
revisions is a requirement to have his newsletters from a specific date forward.
Any changes to the plans would be published in the quarterly Cozy newsletter
and all builders were required to subscribe. Every 5 years or so he would
incorporate all the changes and increment the revision. This made it very simple
for any builder to know exactly what was needed to bring his plans up to
date.
The fact that the plans for the RV-10 have several pages with different revisions
is a bit annoying, but at least they do have the revision numbers on them.
Not the most builder friendly way to go but I guess it works. They still need
to come up with a way to alert the builders though. Just a comment in the
beginning of the plans or something saying go "here" to check for updates from
time to time. Of course if it's there and I didn't see it I'm just a schmuck.
:-)
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Tanks
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Plans revisions - Don't trust your plans
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oooops, too late for that. It might be gone Friday for good.
I'm not tooooo frustrated over the plans, because they are probably the best part
about the kit. I was just surprised that with a change done practically at
the beginning of shipping that kit, they still delivered all of their kits with
a known revision
missing. The comment is mainly directed towards new builders...
be diligent, and assume you do not have the latest plans, and check their site
for all revisions....because you probably actually do not have the latest plans,
even if you're a guy just starting his tailcone kit today.
I would have assumed differently, so I'm just hoping to save some frustration to
the 300+ people who are building after me.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Randy DeBauw wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
>
> I agree Tim! I think you would be better off without all the
> aggravation having to deal with all of this. I'll make you a deal.
> I'll buy your kit and those junk plans, pay you for all of the extra
> freight charges you encountered. You can go fly the beloved Sundowner
> and no longer have to deal with the frustration. I call you next year
> when I am 3 hours out from Oshkosh and give you a head start so we can land at
the same time.
>
> Get back to building! Say hi to the family. Randy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:39 PM
> To: RV10
> Subject: RV10-List: Plans revisions - Don't trust your plans
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> A note about revisions: You cannot trust the plans that come with
> your kit, so verify your plans revisions!!! I bought my FWF kit on
> 5/25/2005. My plans on page FF1-4 were dated something like 1/26/2005.
> One of the recent parts that I thought I was missing has turned up...
>
> I had almost called to complain to Van's about a missing fitting, but
> as
>
> it turned out, the plans had changed on 2/22/05, and now that fitting
> was no longer required. Don't ask me why when I purchased plans on
> 5/25, 3 months after the revision, they didn't send me a complete set
> of
>
> plans with the revision in them. This to me is another spectacular
> example of where customer service should absolutely be improved. In
> addition, it would be no major deal for any organized company to send
> out email notices to their RV-10 builders to notify them of plans
> changes.....but I suppose why bother, from what it appears, usually
> when
>
> they have problems with the plans or parts, they thend to just ignore
> the people who call and tell them anyway.
>
> I'm not trying to beat them up, but I'd think that when someone puts
> down over $40,000 with a company, they'd send them with current set of
> plans, or at least send the revision along with them.
> That said, I do check their site periodically for updates, and I had
> downloaded and printed them all. At the time, I hadn't even received
> the FWF kit plans, so the paper was still stuffed with my finishing
> kit plans, so it got overlooked. I guess I assumed that when you buy
> a kit, you're receiving the latest and greatest plans.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Eyeball Vents |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I don't believe so.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rob Kermanj wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rob Kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
>
> Are the actual Eyeball vents (the black ones) included in the finish
> kit? I don't seem to find them. Thanks.
>
>
> On Sep 6, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Randy DeBauw wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
>>
>> I agree Tim! I think you would be better off without all the aggravation
>> having to deal with all of this. I'll make you a deal. I'll buy your kit
>> and those junk plans, pay you for all of the extra freight charges you
>> encountered. You can go fly the beloved Sundowner and no longer have to
>> deal with the frustration. I call you next year when I am 3 hours out
>> from Oshkosh and give you a head start so we can land at the same time.
>>
>> Get back to building! Say hi to the family. Randy
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:39 PM
>> To: RV10
>> Subject: RV10-List: Plans revisions - Don't trust your plans
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> A note about revisions: You cannot trust the plans that come with your
>> kit, so verify your plans revisions!!! I bought my FWF kit on
>> 5/25/2005. My plans on page FF1-4 were dated something like 1/26/2005.
>> One of the recent parts that I thought I was missing has turned up...
>>
>> I had almost called to complain to Van's about a missing fitting, but as
>>
>> it turned out, the plans had changed on 2/22/05, and now that fitting
>> was no longer required. Don't ask me why when I purchased plans on
>> 5/25, 3 months after the revision, they didn't send me a complete set of
>>
>> plans with the revision in them. This to me is another spectacular
>> example of where customer service should absolutely be improved. In
>> addition, it would be no major deal for any organized company to send
>> out email notices to their RV-10 builders to notify them of plans
>> changes.....but I suppose why bother, from what it appears, usually when
>>
>> they have problems with the plans or parts, they thend to just ignore
>> the people who call and tell them anyway.
>>
>> I'm not trying to beat them up, but I'd think that when someone
>> puts down over $40,000 with a company, they'd send them with current
>> set of plans, or at least send the revision along with them.
>> That said, I do check their site periodically for updates, and I
>> had downloaded and printed them all. At the time, I hadn't even
>> received the FWF kit plans, so the paper was still stuffed with my
>> finishing kit plans, so it got overlooked. I guess I assumed that
>> when you buy a kit, you're receiving the latest and greatest plans.
>>
>> --
>> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Friggin tank ribs |
John,
The recess for the bearing was of about 1/32 so that when you put the three
peices together after the bearing was in place, the rivet holes would not line
back up. This after having match drilled the three pieces without the bearing
in place as per the plans. The new one that Van's sent went together perfectly.
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| Subject: | vent eyeball placement |
Hi Tim:
I Don't have my panel at this point , so i can't glu the vent in place till i get
it back , i did buy the vent and some hose in anticapation of haveing a small
problem in where to put the black eyeball , i am including 2 pic from the
Idaho -10 that stoped into Auburn 3 weeks ago , hope this helps .
Waiting for the engine , should be here this week !
Brian Bollaert
#40200
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| Subject: | Stein's email address |
ANyone have Stein's email address??
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gretz
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I believe they'll be about $425 or something in that neighborhood.
I would bet that you'll hear back after the weekend. Also try
Stein...I know he was trying to work on being a distributor
for Gretz, so he'd be selling them at the same price but since
you can add other stuff to your order, it might be beneficial
to get it with other supplies.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
John Hasbrouck wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
> > For those who bought heated pitots from Gretz, how much were they? I've > tried
to contact them by e-mail but haven't received any response. > Wanted a price
and ordering info. Thanks
> > John Hasbrouck
> #40264
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Stein's email address |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
sales@steinair.com or stein@steinair.com
gengrumpy@aol.com wrote:
> ANyone have Stein's email address??
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 18:47:28 -0500
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gretz
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com
> <mailto:Tim%40MyRV10.com>>
>
> I believe they'll be about $425 or something in that neighborhood.
> I would bet that you'll hear back after the weekend. Also try
> Stein...I know he was trying to work on being a distributor
> for Gretz, so he'd be selling them at the same price but since
> you can add other stuff to your order, it might be beneficial
> to get it with other supplies.
>
> Tim
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> John Hasbrouck wrote:
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck"
> <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com <mailto:jhasbrouck%40woh.rr.com>>
> > > For those who bought heated pitots from Gretz, how much were they?
> I've > tried to contact them
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| Subject: | Stein's email address |
stein@steinair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gengrumpy@aol.com
Subject: RV10-List: Stein's email address
ANyone have Stein's email address??
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gretz
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com
<mailto:Tim%40MyRV10.com> >
I believe they'll be about $425 or something in that neighborhood.
I would bet that you'll hear back after the weekend. Also try
Stein...I know he was trying to work on being a distributor
for Gretz, so he'd be selling them at the same price but since
you can add other stuff to your order, it might be beneficial
to get it with other supplies.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
John Hasbrouck wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck"
<jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com <mailto:jhasbrouck%40woh.rr.com> >
> > For those who bought heated pitots from Gretz, how much were they?
I've > tried to contact them
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| Subject: | Re: vent eyeball placement |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Interesting photo. Thanks Brian. In this case, it looks like they
didn't have to trim off any of the corner bolts, but maybe had to
file the top of it a bit. I think mine has more interference than
that.
From Randy's pics, it looks like he had to cut off at least one
corner and some of the top:
http://www.myrv10.com/N610RV/20050404/IMGP0933.html
From the Colorado pics, they had smaller valves:
http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/Colorado_10s/P200507280091.html
Same with the first RV10:
http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/RV10demopics/DSCN6749.html
I can't seem to find the smaller valve in their online or .pdf
catalog though:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1126025138-156-660&browse=heatvent&product=ventilation-components
It's also funny that the #1 RV-10, N401RV, used the small valve,
but the parts sent were pre-glued to use the large eyeball valve.
cutting them apart will be simple, but I want to figure the
best direction to go before I fire up the saw.
Hey, where's your engine coming from?
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
brian bollaert wrote:
> Hi Tim:
>
> I Don't have my panel at this point , so i can't glu the vent in place
> till i get it back , i did buy the vent and some hose in anticapation of
> haveing a small problem in where to put the black eyeball , i am
> including 2 pic from the Idaho -10 that stoped into Auburn 3 weeks
> ago , hope this helps .
>
> Waiting for the engine , should be here this week !
>
> Brian Bollaert
> #40200
>
>
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Hi all,
Just a quick note that I flew N325HP last Thursday! WOW, flew hands off.
Stable but when commanded to turn it turns and stays there, can't wait to
shoot and ILS. The most impressive part was the noise level in the cockpit.
I had to remove one ear cup to here the engine on take off, other than that
just a purr of the engine and wind flowing over the airframe. I sound
deadened it and have a performance aero engine, 325 horse power and on the
front of that a Catto three blade prop. Supper smooth and fast is all I can
say at this time will get some real numbers in a few weeks. For those of
you building keep on it is worth it
Noel Simmons
www.blueskyaviation.net <http://www.blueskyaviation.net/>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
For flying RV10s, anybody experiencing RFI/EMI in the electric trim
unshieled or Autopilot unshielded harnesses???
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Noel,
What did you use for sound deadening and where all did you install it? How many
pounds of it?
Thanks - John #40404
-----Original Message-----
From: Noel & Yoshie Simmons <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
Subject: RV10-List: N325HP
Hi all,
Just a quick note that I flew N325HP last Thursday! WOW, flew hands off. Stable
but when commanded to turn it turns and stays there, can?t wait to shoot and
ILS. The most impressive part was the noise level in the cockpit. I had to
remove one ear cup to here the engine on take off, other than that just a purr
of the engine and wind flowing over the airframe. I sound deadened it and
have a performance aero engine, 325 horse power and on the front of that a Catto
three blade prop. Supper smooth and fast is all I can say at this time will
get some real numbers in a few weeks. For those of you building keep on it
is worth it
Noel Simmons
www.blueskyaviation.net
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Noel,
Congrats! She's a good looking ship. Can't wait to see the numbers with that
325 and catto prop.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Tanks
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel & Yoshie Simmons
Subject: RV10-List: N325HP
Hi all,
Just a quick note that I flew N325HP last Thursday! WOW, flew hands off. Stable
but when commanded to turn it turns and stays there, can't wait to shoot and
ILS. The most impressive part was the noise level in the cockpit. I had to
remove one ear cup to here the engine on take off, other than that just a purr
of the engine and wind flowing over the airframe. I sound deadened it and
have a performance aero engine, 325 horse power and on the front of that a Catto
three blade prop. Supper smooth and fast is all I can say at this time will
get some real numbers in a few weeks. For those of you building keep on it
is worth it
Noel Simmons
www.blueskyaviation.net <http://www.blueskyaviation.net/>
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Beautiful plane! Congratulations.
325 HP ! How did this happen? What type engine? What was the weight?
John Jessen
(#40328 HS)
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Noel & Yoshie
Simmons
Subject: RV10-List: N325HP
Hi all,
Just a quick note that I flew N325HP last Thursday! WOW, flew hands off.
Stable but when commanded to turn it turns and stays there, can't wait to
shoot and ILS. The most impressive part was the noise level in the cockpit.
I had to remove one ear cup to here the engine on take off, other than that
just a purr of the engine and wind flowing over the airframe. I sound
deadened it and have a performance aero engine, 325 horse power and on the
front of that a Catto three blade prop. Supper smooth and fast is all I can
say at this time will get some real numbers in a few weeks. For those of
you building keep on it is worth it
Noel Simmons
www.blueskyaviation.net <http://www.blueskyaviation.net/>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brandon Yost" <bryostdc@hotmail.com>
Did you do any airframe mods to allow mounting of more horsepower?
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
I will be taking the Matronics Web Server down for a few hours today,
Tuesday September 6 2005 for a chassis upgrade. Archive browsing and
searching along with subscription services will be unavailable for
about 2 hours beginning at 5pm PDT. Incoming and outgoing email will
be processed normally during the upgrade. Please check the Matronics
System Status Page for updates (although this page resides on the web
server and won't be available during the upgrade):
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| Subject: | Re: vent eyeball placement |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "brian bollaert" <bbollaert@comcast.net>
Hi Tim:
Talked to Stein today he prob has talked to you already ? if not maybe at
the barbecue ? re: the vents , anyway my engine is coming from the same as
you !! Aerosport power (tomorrow) can't wait . gotta say this fiberglass is
a drag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! doors etc , not shure what i am going to do with the
fairing (maybe a naked -10 )
Brian Bollaert
#40200
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: vent eyeball placement
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Interesting photo. Thanks Brian. In this case, it looks like they
> didn't have to trim off any of the corner bolts, but maybe had to
> file the top of it a bit. I think mine has more interference than
> that.
>
> From Randy's pics, it looks like he had to cut off at least one
> corner and some of the top:
> http://www.myrv10.com/N610RV/20050404/IMGP0933.html
>
> From the Colorado pics, they had smaller valves:
> http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/Colorado_10s/P200507280091.html
> Same with the first RV10:
> http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/RV10demopics/DSCN6749.html
>
> I can't seem to find the smaller valve in their online or .pdf
> catalog though:
>
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1126025138-156-660&browse=heatvent&product=ventilation-components
>
> It's also funny that the #1 RV-10, N401RV, used the small valve,
> but the parts sent were pre-glued to use the large eyeball valve.
> cutting them apart will be simple, but I want to figure the
> best direction to go before I fire up the saw.
>
>
> Hey, where's your engine coming from?
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> brian bollaert wrote:
> > Hi Tim:
> >
> > I Don't have my panel at this point , so i can't glu the vent in place
> > till i get it back , i did buy the vent and some hose in anticapation of
> > haveing a small problem in where to put the black eyeball , i am
> > including 2 pic from the Idaho -10 that stoped into Auburn 3 weeks
> > ago , hope this helps .
> >
> > Waiting for the engine , should be here this week !
> >
> > Brian Bollaert
> > #40200
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
At a picnic in Redmond, Or this weekend, one pilot reported extraneous
hits on his L3 scope which were only attributed to possible EMI from his
STec trim servos. FYI
John - KUAO
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Subject: RV10-List: RFI/EMI
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
For flying RV10s, anybody experiencing RFI/EMI in the electric trim
unshieled or Autopilot unshielded harnesses???
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Congrats on a beautiful project.
"Three bladed props for the 540 engines will run from $1850 up to $2350."
Got that from cattoprops.com...now that definitely warrants some performance numbers!
----- Original Message -----
From: Noel & Yoshie Simmons
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: N325HP
Hi all,
Just a quick note that I flew N325HP last Thursday! WOW, flew hands off. Stable
but when commanded to turn it turns and stays there, can't wait to shoot
and ILS. The most impressive part was the noise level in the cockpit. I had
to remove one ear cup to here the engine on take off, other than that just a
purr of the engine and wind flowing over the airframe. I sound deadened it
and have a performance aero engine, 325 horse power and on the front of that a
Catto three blade prop. Supper smooth and fast is all I can say at this time
will get some real numbers in a few weeks. For those of you building keep on
it is worth it
Noel Simmons
www.blueskyaviation.net
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| Subject: | Air vent location problem |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
I will call them "Nads" in the future so as to stay politically correct
with the sensitive builders at RV University. The only thing that "Go"
are the loose Jepp plates in the free flowing breeze. But then remember,
this bird was designed to be a DAY VFR only platform (so the plates
shouldn't be there anyway right? I can always wear a fur lined G strap
to keep the equipment warm. We are of course known as the Beaver State.
I will continue to look long and hard at a different CNC callout on the
skins and a relocation farther forward one frame and above the rudder
pedal mounts, cause it is both logical and more safety conscientious.
Label me Oregon Stubborn. I never said improvements would be easy.
John - KUAO
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Air vent location problem
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Anyone coming up on complete with their fuselage who can verify how
their air vents are looking in the front seats?
Here is a photo of one of the Colorado RV-10's that's a bit
revealing too:
http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/Colorado_10s/P200507280091.html
You'll notice that they chopped off the large square part and
stuck in some smaller vent...sacrificing airflow useability for
the ability to get it to fit.
Any other good ideas??
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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G'day all,
Just finishing off the flaps and installing the -319 pop rivets. I have the stanley
swivel head puller from Avery, but find it won't quite fit against the hinge
assemblies on the flap bottom, so the rivets do not go in straight. Any
hints? I am reluctant to grind the side off my rivet puller . . .
cheers,
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Flap rivetting |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
That's exactly what I did. Grind flat the face of the puller head. If
you don't want to do it to your nice puller, go get a cheap one from
somewhere and grind that one flat.
-Sean #40303
McGANN, Ron wrote:
>
> G'day all,
>
> Just finishing off the flaps and installing the -319 pop rivets. I
> have the stanley swivel head puller from Avery, but find it won't
> quite fit against the hinge assemblies on the flap bottom, so the
> rivets do not go in straight. Any hints? I am reluctant to grind the
> side off my rivet puller . . .
>
> cheers,
> Ron
>
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| Subject: | Static Wicks--need suggestions |
I purchased my tail kit from a previous builder. The Rudder/VS were done. He
put a static wick on the top of the rudder. I am wondering if this is necessary.
I'm to the point of construction on the elevators that I either need to install
static wicks on them or I will fill the holes on the rudder and just not
have wicks at all.
To my knowledge, nobody has put them on any finished -10's yet, right??? If somebody
has that I have overlooked, how many did you use? Is one on each control
surface enough (ie. one on rudder, one on each elevator, ailerons, etc...)???
Does anybody have any remarks/comments on why I should use/not use the static wicks.
From previous conversations, and from listening to people talk about todays technology
in shielded cables and built in circuitry protection from static electricity,
I think I may just fill the holes on the rudder and not have the wicks
at all.
Bill Britton
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| Subject: | Static Wicks--need suggestions |
No static wicks could affect the performance of your ADF equipment . . . : )
TDT
40025
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill and Tami Britton
Subject: RV10-List: Static Wicks--need suggestions
I purchased my tail kit from a previous builder. The Rudder/VS were done. He
put a static wick on the top of the rudder. I am wondering if this is necessary.
I'm to the point of construction on the elevators that I either need to install
static wicks on them or I will fill the holes on the rudder and just not
have wicks at all.
To my knowledge, nobody has put them on any finished -10's yet, right??? If somebody
has that I have overlooked, how many did you use? Is one on each control
surface enough (ie. one on rudder, one on each elevator, ailerons, etc...)???
Does anybody have any remarks/comments on why I should use/not use the static wicks.
From previous conversations, and from listening to people talk about todays technology
in shielded cables and built in circuitry protection from static electricity,
I think I may just fill the holes on the rudder and not have the wicks
at all.
Bill Britton
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