RV10-List Digest Archive

Sun 09/18/05


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 08:45 AM - Re: Strobe wiring (Rick)
     2. 09:10 AM - Connector for Trim Servo? (James Hein)
     3. 12:49 PM - Fuel Tank info needed (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     4. 12:51 PM - Re: Connector for Trim Servo? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     5. 04:43 PM - Tailcone Attachment (Brian)
     6. 05:12 PM - bolt designation help! (Chris Johnston)
     7. 05:23 PM - Re: bolt designation help! (David McNeill)
     8. 05:25 PM - Re: bolt designation help! (Marcus Cooper)
     9. 05:30 PM - Re: bolt designation help! (David McNeill)
    10. 05:31 PM - Re: bolt designation help! (Marcus Cooper)
    11. 05:41 PM - Re: bolt designation help! (JOHN STARN)
    12. 06:03 PM - Re: Tailcone Attachment (Tim Olson)
    13. 07:10 PM - Re: Tailcone Attachment (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
    14. 07:23 PM - Open House at Steinair this Sunday (Tim Olson)
    15. 07:26 PM - Re: Tailcone Attachment (Tim Lewis)
    16. 07:30 PM - Re: Tailcone Attachment (Tim Olson)
    17. 08:15 PM - Re: Tailcone Attachment (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
    18. 08:28 PM - Re: Tailcone Attachment (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
    19. 10:34 PM - Re: bolt designation help! (Mark Grieve)
    20. 10:50 PM - Re: bolt designation help! (linn walters)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:45:21 AM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Strobe wiring
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> Mani, Absolute good point, I have a coil still in the supply bin and it's not too heavy, not much more or less than the power supply. My main reason is I have a cheap side that says the wire is cheaper than three power supplies....and since I have wing tip antennas, Com 2, Nav and marker beacon I figure if it interferes it would do it with the power supply at the tip as well. Good hanger conversation though. If I get any problems I'll pull my coax and install conventional Comants on the belly (already using one for Com 1) and whiskers in the tail for Nav. Everyone I talked to that is using my proposed/their setup has not had any problems. I am not concerned about the fuel tank/high voltage issue. It would take a lot of things to go wrong for my stobe wiring to get to my tanks....but yeah I know, Murphy rides on everyones shoulder. Rick S. 40185 Wings


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    Time: 09:10:25 AM PST US
    From: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
    Subject: Connector for Trim Servo?
    --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net> Hi all, What connector is everyone using to connect to the trim servo? -Jim 40384


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    Time: 12:49:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Fuel Tank info needed
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    0.15 HTML_TEXT_AFTER_BODY BODY": rv10-list@matronics.com This is for anyone that has their wings on and sitting on the main gear. I am going with the Aircraft Extras optical sensor for a backup to the fuel gauge/totalizer. In order to put this in the tank I have to replicate, fairly closely, the position the tanks will be sitting in straight and level flight. So what I need is the relative angles in X and Y from the forward outboard edge of the tanks when the aircraft is level. Readings from a swing protractor should be close enough but an electronic level would be great. These things are a bit of a catch 22 as you need to be able to put water into the tanks in order to get the sensor to indicate at a known quantity but you can't get to the business end of the tank once they are closed up. You could wait to put the floats in but I also don't know what kind of error, if any, the float may introduce. So I will be putting these in the rear baffle below the fuel cap. I'll share the exact location with the group so anyone else using these won't have to go through the trouble. Thanks, Michael Sausen -10 #352 Tanks


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    Time: 12:51:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Connector for Trim Servo?
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Connect to what? If you are talking at the servo pigtail to the cable, a subD works great. Bob has an article on how to do this on his site. http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/macservo/macservo.html Michael Sausen -10 #352 Tanks -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein Subject: RV10-List: Connector for Trim Servo? --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net> Hi all, What connector is everyone using to connect to the trim servo? -Jim 40384


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    Time: 04:43:03 PM PST US
    From: "Brian" <av8er@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Tailcone Attachment
    In step four of page 32-3 (tailcone attach) the instructions say to "match drill the four #30 holes in the aft end of the mid fuse longeron into the tailcone longeron". Problem is my QB didn't have these drilled from the factory and I cannot locate in the plans anywhere the dimensions of these. Can anyone point me to the section/page of the dimensions? Brian #40308 (trying to join the tailcone to the fuselage!)


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    Time: 05:12:51 PM PST US
    Subject: bolt designation help!
    From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
    hey all - let me preface this question by admitting that i might be an idiot. ok then. i'm getting to the end of riveting together the tailcone, and there are a couple of bolts that need installation. my question - what does the "A" designation mean? example: AN3-6A. 6A? what's the difference between AN3-6 and AN3-6A? i searched the archives and couldn't figure it out. also looked through the standard aircraft handbook etc... help anyone? thanks cj #40410 tailcone


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    Time: 05:23:37 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: bolt designation help!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net> A indicates absent . that is the drilled shank is not there. Should be secured by a fibrous or metal locknut. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com> Subject: RV10-List: bolt designation help! hey all - let me preface this question by admitting that i might be an idiot. ok then. i'm getting to the end of riveting together the tailcone, and there are a couple of bolts that need installation. my question - what does the "A" designation mean? example: AN3-6A. 6A? what's the difference between AN3-6 and AN3-6A? i searched the archives and couldn't figure it out. also looked through the standard aircraft handbook etc... help anyone? thanks cj #40410 tailcone


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    Time: 05:25:30 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: RE: bolt designation help!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net> The "A" indicates there is no hole drilled in the threaded part of the bolt. If you have an Aircraft Spruce catalog I think it discusses this as well to back me up. AN3-6 - hole AN3-6A - no hole Happy Bolting, Marcus -----Original Message----- From: Chris Johnston [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston Subject: bolt designation help! hey all - let me preface this question by admitting that i might be an idiot. ok then. i'm getting to the end of riveting together the tailcone, and there are a couple of bolts that need installation. my question - what does the "A" designation mean? example: AN3-6A. 6A? what's the difference between AN3-6 and AN3-6A? i searched the archives and couldn't figure it out. also looked through the standard aircraft handbook etc... help anyone? thanks cj #40410 tailcone


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    Time: 05:30:29 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: bolt designation help!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net> Another suggestion. Get an aviation mechanics handbook. All the part number digits are explained as well as all the drill sizes and other interesting info like the size of a hole that you are going drill so that you can tap with new threads. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com> Subject: RV10-List: bolt designation help! hey all - let me preface this question by admitting that i might be an idiot. ok then. i'm getting to the end of riveting together the tailcone, and there are a couple of bolts that need installation. my question - what does the "A" designation mean? example: AN3-6A. 6A? what's the difference between AN3-6 and AN3-6A? i searched the archives and couldn't figure it out. also looked through the standard aircraft handbook etc... help anyone? thanks cj #40410 tailcone


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    Time: 05:31:56 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: RE: bolt designation help!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net> Here's the text from Aircraft Spruce's website regarding the bolts as a further reference: Hex head aircraft bolts are made of high-strength type 4037 or 8740 alloy steel (type 8740 is most commonly used). The bolts are centerless ground and threaded after heat treatment. Minimum tensile strength 125,000 PSI. Cadmium plated per specification QQ-P-416A, Type II, Class 3. Available with shank drilled for cotter pin or undrilled for stop nut application, and with or without drilled head for safety wire. Specify bolts to have undrilled shank by adding letter "A" after the dash number. For bolts with drilled head add letter "H" after the AN number. See illustrated examples. The length of AN aircraft bolts is measured from under the head to the end of the shank. The "grip" is the unthreaded portion of the shank. See table for conversion of length and/or grip to proper AN callout. Marcus 40286 (working on the workshop, outgrown the garage) -----Original Message----- From: Chris Johnston [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston Subject: bolt designation help! hey all - let me preface this question by admitting that i might be an idiot. ok then. i'm getting to the end of riveting together the tailcone, and there are a couple of bolts that need installation. my question - what does the "A" designation mean? example: AN3-6A. 6A? what's the difference between AN3-6 and AN3-6A? i searched the archives and couldn't figure it out. also looked through the standard aircraft handbook etc... help anyone? thanks cj #40410 tailcone


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    Time: 05:41:30 PM PST US
    From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: bolt designation help!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net> Go on-line to www.aircraftspruce.com , go to page 76. There I believe you'll find what the "A" means and everything else you want to know about bolts etc. Order the catalog as it's the best in explaining "stuff" and finding they for sale at the same time. We have one in the hanger, in the garage and next to the computer. When we get a new one we "upgrade" the older ones by giving it someone at the airport. Have been doing this for years and still not everyone at APV has one. The ending letter "A" in your example means that the AN3-6A is "undrilled", no holes for safety wire in the head of the bolt nor is the shank drilled for cotter key applications. AN3 is a 10-32 (size 10, 32 threads per inch) -6A has a grip length of 3/8" and is 25/32" overall. KABONG HRII N561FS (GBA & GWB) Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com> Subject: RV10-List: bolt designation help! hey all - let me preface this question by admitting that i might be an idiot. ok then. i'm getting to the end of riveting together the tailcone, and there are a couple of bolts that need installation. my question - what does the "A" designation mean? example: AN3-6A. 6A? what's the difference between AN3-6 and AN3-6A? i searched the archives and couldn't figure it out. also looked through the standard aircraft handbook etc... help anyone? thanks cj #40410 tailcone


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    Time: 06:03:56 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Tailcone Attachment
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I'm a bit fuzzy on this already, but, I think those won't be drilled at all, and you just need to lay out a good 4 hole pattern. Just leave a good end edge distance on the rear one, and a little working space behind the bulkhead on the front one, and then space the other 2 holes evenly. I think you'll end up with something in the 1" spacing arena or so. Other than making sure you have strength there, nothing else makes it critical one way or the other. Tim Brian wrote: > In step four of page 32-3 (tailcone attach) the instructions say to > "match drill the four #30 holes in the aft end of the mid fuse longeron > into the tailcone longeron". Problem is my QB didn't have these drilled > from the factory and I cannot locate in the plans anywhere the > dimensions of these. Can anyone point me to the section/page of the > dimensions? > > Brian > #40308 (trying to join the tailcone to the fuselage!)


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    Time: 07:10:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tailcone Attachment
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Interestingly, this is the second time in the last couple weeks this question has come up. The initial holes are match drilled using the F1046-B template on page 29-3. They are then match drilled to the tailcone sections and enlarged on page 32-3 step 4. Tim: this appears to be a potential gotcha for QB fuselage folks. Bob -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I'm a bit fuzzy on this already, but, I think those won't be drilled at all, and you just need to lay out a good 4 hole pattern. Just leave a good end edge distance on the rear one, and a little working space behind the bulkhead on the front one, and then space the other 2 holes evenly. I think you'll end up with something in the 1" spacing arena or so. Other than making sure you have strength there, nothing else makes it critical one way or the other. Tim Brian wrote: > In step four of page 32-3 (tailcone attach) the instructions say to > "match drill the four #30 holes in the aft end of the mid fuse longeron > into the tailcone longeron". Problem is my QB didn't have these drilled > from the factory and I cannot locate in the plans anywhere the > dimensions of these. Can anyone point me to the section/page of the > dimensions? > > Brian > #40308 (trying to join the tailcone to the fuselage!)


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    Time: 07:23:50 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Open House at Steinair this Sunday
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> To any of you that are not too far from the Minneapolis/St. Paul area: SteinAir is having an open house this Sunday. They just moved into a new 3500 Sq.Ft. facility in Farmington, MN, and they want to see how many people it can hold. (My personal bet is no more than 1650 ;) ) There will be a Chelton Factory Representative attending and giving a detailed overview of the Chelton EFIS system, along with Q&A for users or prospective users. (I believe there may also be some promos ending after the open house...so you may want to jump on them) TruTrak Flight systems General Manager Andrew Barker is also attending to discuss TruTrak autopilots and new/upcoming items. They'll also be having *FREE* food, which is always a plus. For the full details, go to: http://www.steinair.com The open house is located at their new facility, which is located at: 21170 Eaton Ave, Suite C Farmington, MN 55024 Located just off highway 50 and Pilot Knob Rd about 3 minutes from Lakeville Airport (LVN). The open house will run from 10:00am - 5:00pm with the free brats/dogs around noon and other refreshments all day. Those wishing to fly into LVN may do so, and free transportation will be provided from the airport to their facility. -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 (I plan to be there) DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:26:38 PM PST US
    From: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu>
    Subject: Re: Tailcone Attachment
    Funny this should come up now. Here's my recent (1 week ago) email to Van's on this topic. I got a "that's fine" response from Van's. Tim -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) RV-6A N47TD -- 790 hrs RV-10 #40059 under construction -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RV-10 QB F-1046 aft end bolt holes From: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu> Vans, Please see picture 1, attached. This is the aft end of F-1046L, the mid fuselage longeron. Per plans page 32-3, upper balloon, there need to be four holes in the aft portion of this longeron for four AN-5 bolts. Per plans page 29-2, those four holes should be drilled with the aid of F-1046B, longeron bending template. I didn't receive F-1046B (because I have the QB fuselage, I presume). I called a local builder and got approximate hole location measurements from him. He'd already thrown away his template, but was able to give me approximate dimensions by measuring the bolts in place. I consulted my RV-6 plans for similar situations and ended up with the hole pattern shown in photo 2, attached. The hole distance from the inner edge of the longeron is from 5/16" to 3/8". Hole distance from the aft end of the longeron is 3/8". Inter-hole spacing (on centers) is 11/16" to 3/4". Is this solution acceptable? Thanks, Tim Lewis


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    Time: 07:30:58 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Tailcone Attachment
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Wow,I missed the previous mention, but this threw me for a loop, being a QB fuse builder.... I see what you mean, there's a template (that us QB buyers don't have, of course) that's used for the drilling. Not having actually gone thru this, I am having a hard time visualizing the drilling, and if this is for the horizontal or vertical holes in the longeron....but I trust you that these are for the 4 holes in question. So, as a QB builder, who wouldn't *have* that template, and not having any holes drilled, I would think that this wouldn't be too nasty to drill as I described earlier though, right? Or do you see a problem, Bob? I guess I just took it in stride, but you're right, I'll add it to the Gotchas page. Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 DO NOT ARCHIVE Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> > > Interestingly, this is the second time in the last couple weeks this > question has come up. > > The initial holes are match drilled using the F1046-B template on > page 29-3. They are then match drilled to the tailcone sections and > enlarged on page 32-3 step 4. > > Tim: this appears to be a potential gotcha for QB fuselage folks. > > Bob -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless > Handheld > > > -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com > <rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sun Sep 18 18:03:34 2005 Subject: Re: > RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > > I'm a bit fuzzy on this already, but, I think those won't be drilled > at all, and you just need to lay out a good 4 hole pattern. Just > leave a good end edge distance on the rear one, and a little working > space behind the bulkhead on the front one, and then space the other > 2 holes evenly. I think you'll end up with something in the 1" > spacing arena or so. Other than making sure you have strength there, > nothing else makes it critical one way or the other. > > Tim > > > Brian wrote: > >> In step four of page 32-3 (tailcone attach) the instructions say to >> "match drill the four #30 holes in the aft end of the mid fuse >> longeron into the tailcone longeron". Problem is my QB didn't have >> these drilled from the factory and I cannot locate in the plans >> anywhere the dimensions of these. Can anyone point me to the >> section/page of the dimensions? >> >> Brian #40308 (trying to join the tailcone to the fuselage!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:15:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tailcone Attachment
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> It's probably not too critical, but I'll scan a pic of the aft part of the template and you can post it tomorrow. Bob -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Wow,I missed the previous mention, but this threw me for a loop, being a QB fuse builder.... I see what you mean, there's a template (that us QB buyers don't have, of course) that's used for the drilling. Not having actually gone thru this, I am having a hard time visualizing the drilling, and if this is for the horizontal or vertical holes in the longeron....but I trust you that these are for the 4 holes in question. So, as a QB builder, who wouldn't *have* that template, and not having any holes drilled, I would think that this wouldn't be too nasty to drill as I described earlier though, right? Or do you see a problem, Bob? I guess I just took it in stride, but you're right, I'll add it to the Gotchas page. Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 DO NOT ARCHIVE Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> > > Interestingly, this is the second time in the last couple weeks this > question has come up. > > The initial holes are match drilled using the F1046-B template on > page 29-3. They are then match drilled to the tailcone sections and > enlarged on page 32-3 step 4. > > Tim: this appears to be a potential gotcha for QB fuselage folks. > > Bob -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless > Handheld > > > -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com > <rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sun Sep 18 18:03:34 2005 Subject: Re: > RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > > I'm a bit fuzzy on this already, but, I think those won't be drilled > at all, and you just need to lay out a good 4 hole pattern. Just > leave a good end edge distance on the rear one, and a little working > space behind the bulkhead on the front one, and then space the other > 2 holes evenly. I think you'll end up with something in the 1" > spacing arena or so. Other than making sure you have strength there, > nothing else makes it critical one way or the other. > > Tim > > > Brian wrote: > >> In step four of page 32-3 (tailcone attach) the instructions say to >> "match drill the four #30 holes in the aft end of the mid fuse >> longeron into the tailcone longeron". Problem is my QB didn't have >> these drilled from the factory and I cannot locate in the plans >> anywhere the dimensions of these. Can anyone point me to the >> section/page of the dimensions? >> >> Brian #40308 (trying to join the tailcone to the fuselage!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:28:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tailcone Attachment
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> I just sent a pic to Tim for posting. Exact hole locations are: - holes are all 7/16" from edge - aft hole is 3/8" from aft edge of longeron - hole spacing is 3/4" center to center Bob -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
    Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> It's probably not too critical, but I'll scan a pic of the aft part of the template and you can post it tomorrow. Bob -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Wow,I missed the previous mention, but this threw me for a loop, being a QB fuse builder.... I see what you mean, there's a template (that us QB buyers don't have, of course) that's used for the drilling. Not having actually gone thru this, I am having a hard time visualizing the drilling, and if this is for the horizontal or vertical holes in the longeron....but I trust you that these are for the 4 holes in question. So, as a QB builder, who wouldn't *have* that template, and not having any holes drilled, I would think that this wouldn't be too nasty to drill as I described earlier though, right? Or do you see a problem, Bob? I guess I just took it in stride, but you're right, I'll add it to the Gotchas page. Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 DO NOT ARCHIVE Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> > > Interestingly, this is the second time in the last couple weeks this > question has come up. > > The initial holes are match drilled using the F1046-B template on > page 29-3. They are then match drilled to the tailcone sections and > enlarged on page 32-3 step 4. > > Tim: this appears to be a potential gotcha for QB fuselage folks. > > Bob -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless > Handheld > > > -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com > <rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sun Sep 18 18:03:34 2005 Subject: Re: > RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > > I'm a bit fuzzy on this already, but, I think those won't be drilled > at all, and you just need to lay out a good 4 hole pattern. Just > leave a good end edge distance on the rear one, and a little working > space behind the bulkhead on the front one, and then space the other > 2 holes evenly. I think you'll end up with something in the 1" > spacing arena or so. Other than making sure you have strength there, > nothing else makes it critical one way or the other. > > Tim > > > Brian wrote: > >> In step four of page 32-3 (tailcone attach) the instructions say to >> "match drill the four #30 holes in the aft end of the mid fuse >> longeron into the tailcone longeron". Problem is my QB didn't have >> these drilled from the factory and I cannot locate in the plans >> anywhere the dimensions of these. Can anyone point me to the >> section/page of the dimensions? >> >> Brian #40308 (trying to join the tailcone to the fuselage!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:34:33 PM PST US
    From: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
    Subject: Re: bolt designation help!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com> Chris, You refer to the standard aircraft handbook, I trust you are referring to THE Standard Aircraft Handbook by Aero publishers ISBN O-8168-8502-8 Look at the bottom of the first page devoted to bolts. Undrilled.........................Add A after dash number Drilled Shank only...........No letter Drilled head only.............Add H before the dash number and A after Drilled head and shank....Add H before the dash number They also give a great way to remember: A means the drilled hole is absent. Do not archive Mark Chris Johnston wrote: >hey all - >let me preface this question by admitting that i might be an idiot. ok then. i'm getting to the end of riveting together the tailcone, and there are a couple of bolts that need installation. my question - what does the "A" designation mean? example: AN3-6A. 6A? what's the difference between AN3-6 and AN3-6A? i searched the archives and couldn't figure it out. also looked through the standard aircraft handbook etc... help anyone? > >thanks >cj > >#40410 tailcone > >


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    Time: 10:50:53 PM PST US
    From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: bolt designation help!
    Besides being a compendium of 'gotta have' stuff, the Aircraft Spruce Catalog is a wealth of information, From the catalog: AN6-10A undrilled shank AN6-10 drilled shank AN6H-10A drilled head only AN6H-10 both head and shank drilled Linn do not archive Chris Johnston wrote: >hey all - >let me preface this question by admitting that i might be an idiot. ok then. i'm getting to the end of riveting together the tailcone, and there are a couple of bolts that need installation. my question - what does the "A" designation mean? example: AN3-6A. 6A? what's the difference between AN3-6 and AN3-6A? i searched the archives and couldn't figure it out. also looked through the standard aircraft handbook etc... help anyone? > >thanks >cj > >#40410 tailcone > > > > >




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