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     1. 04:20 AM - Re: Hugo Rv10 (Comcast)
     2. 04:20 AM - Re: 2006 Calendar (Comcast)
     3. 04:31 AM - Re: Tailcone Attachment (Brian)
     4. 06:13 AM - Re: Tailcone Attachment (Tim Olson)
     5. 06:47 AM - NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high! (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
     6. 06:51 AM - Re: Tailcone Attachment (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
     7. 07:04 AM - Re: NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high! (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
     8. 07:08 AM - Re: Strobe wiring (Jesse Saint)
     9. 07:12 AM - Re: Connector for Trim Servo? (Jesse Saint)
    10. 07:20 AM - Re: Hugo Rv10 (Jesse Saint)
    11. 07:41 AM - Madera MAE (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
    12. 07:47 AM - Re: Hugo Rv10 (rob kermanj)
    13. 08:35 AM - Re: Hugo Rv10 (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
    14. 09:56 AM - Re: NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high! (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
    15. 10:00 AM - Re: tailcone riveting!! ()
    16. 10:41 AM - Re: NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high! (Tim Olson)
    17. 10:57 AM - Re: tailcone riveting!! (Deems Davis)
    18. 11:20 AM - Re: tailcone riveting!! (Aaron Sims)
    19. 11:25 AM - Re: tailcone riveting!! (Jeff Carpenter)
    20. 11:33 AM - Re: tailcone riveting!! (Jesse Saint)
    21. 11:57 AM - Re: Canadain inspectors rejecting some pre-assembled parts? (Perry Casson)
    22. 01:29 PM - Re: NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high! (Randy DeBauw)
    23. 01:40 PM - Re: Canadain inspectors rejecting some pre-assembled parts? (Randy DeBauw)
    24. 05:33 PM - For Sale: Whelen HDACF Strobe Power Supply (Dan Checkoway)
    25. 05:55 PM - Re: 2006 Calendar (Jim Combs)
    26. 06:37 PM - Re: NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high! (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
    27. 07:12 PM - Re: Connector for Trim Servo? (bruce snyder)
 
 
 
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      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Comcast" <kenbpeck@comcast.net>
      
      Hey there!
      
      I'm building a -10 up north of Orlando, but get down to Ft. Lauderdale a few 
      times a year either on business or to visit my brother.  Would love to stop 
      by if you're interested in meeting another -10 builder.
      
      My next confirmed trip south is week of Dec 5, but will probably come down 
      at least once before then.
      
      Look forward to hearing from you.
      
      Ken Peck
      31 Rosedown Blvd
      Debary, FL
      386-846-4184
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
      Subject: RV10-List: Hugo Rv10
      
      
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
      >
      > I'm ready to close the VS ,it is any provision for a red rotating 
      > (LED)beacon in the RV10 tail,I identified the white in the lower part of 
      > the rudder,any body install traditional VOR antennas at the top of the VS?
      > Hugo
      > I;m working a three blocks from the wicks manufacturer at Ft 
      >  >Lauderdale,Today I will made a cortesy visit(may be I can purchase 
      > direct)
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Calendar | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Comcast" <kenbpeck@comcast.net>
      
      Gosh, a great inspirational tool for those of us in the process!  I'd gladly 
      cough up a few $$ for something I could put on my office wall!
      
      Ken
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
      Subject: RV10-List: 2006 Calendar
      
      
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
      >
      > I have thought about making a 2006 calendar (RV-10 Style!)
      >
      > Several questions:
      >
      > (1) I would need to get some great pictures for use on the Calendar. 
      > These would need to be high resolution digital if at all possible.  I 
      > would also need to have the photographers permision to use them on the 
      > calendar and a small paragraph about the picture.
      >
      > (2) Anyone care to list any important dates they would like to see 
      > highlighted on the Calendar (First Flight Anniversaries, Holidays, etc.)
      >
      > (3) Distribution? - PDF (Personal use only), Printed - Not stapled for 
      > wall hanging, Printed / Stapled.
      >
      > Comments?
      >
      > Jim Combs
      > #40192, N312F - Fuselage
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tailcone Attachment | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian" <av8er@bellsouth.net>
      
      Excellent!  Thank you!
      
      Brian
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      
      
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" 
      > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      >
      > I just sent a pic to Tim for posting.  Exact hole locations are:
      >
      > - holes are all 7/16" from edge
      > - aft hole is 3/8" from aft edge of longeron
      > - hole spacing is 3/4" center to center
      >
      > Bob
      > --------------------------
      > Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      > <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
      > To: RV10-List@matronics.com <RV10-List@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sun Sep 18 20:15:05 2005
      > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      >
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" 
      > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      >
      > It's probably not too critical, but I'll scan a pic of the aft part of the 
      > template and you can post it tomorrow.
      >
      > Bob
      > --------------------------
      > Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      > <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com <rv10-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sun Sep 18 19:30:39 2005
      > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      >
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
      >
      > Wow,I missed the previous mention, but this threw me for a loop,
      > being a QB fuse builder....
      >
      > I see what you mean, there's a template (that us QB buyers don't
      > have, of course) that's used for the drilling.   Not having
      > actually gone thru this, I am having a hard time visualizing
      > the drilling, and if this is for the horizontal or vertical
      > holes in the longeron....but I trust you that these are for the
      > 4 holes in question.
      >
      > So, as a QB builder, who wouldn't *have* that template, and not
      > having any holes drilled, I would think that this wouldn't be
      > too nasty to drill as I described earlier though, right?  Or do
      > you see a problem, Bob?  I guess I just took it in stride, but
      > you're right, I'll add it to the Gotchas page.
      >
      > Tim
      >
      >
      > Tim Olson -- RV-10  #40170
      > DO NOT ARCHIVE
      >
      >
      > Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
      >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
      >> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      >>
      >> Interestingly, this is the second time in the last couple weeks this
      >> question has come up.
      >>
      >> The initial holes are match drilled using the F1046-B template on
      >> page 29-3.  They are then match drilled to the tailcone sections and
      >> enlarged on page 32-3 step 4.
      >>
      >> Tim: this appears to be a potential gotcha for QB fuselage folks.
      >>
      >> Bob -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless
      >> Handheld
      >>
      >>
      >> -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      >> <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      >> <rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sun Sep 18 18:03:34 2005 Subject: Re:
      >> RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      >>
      >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
      >>
      >>
      >> I'm a bit fuzzy on this already, but, I think those won't be drilled
      >> at all, and you just need to lay out a good 4 hole pattern.  Just
      >> leave a good end edge distance on the rear one, and a little working
      >> space behind the bulkhead on the front one, and then space the other
      >> 2 holes evenly.  I think you'll end up with something in the 1"
      >> spacing arena or so.  Other than making sure you have strength there,
      >> nothing else makes it critical one way or the other.
      >>
      >> Tim
      >>
      >>
      >> Brian wrote:
      >>
      >>> In step four of page 32-3 (tailcone attach) the instructions say to
      >>>  "match drill the four #30 holes in the aft end of the mid fuse
      >>> longeron into the tailcone longeron".  Problem is my QB didn't have
      >>> these drilled from the factory and I cannot locate in the plans
      >>> anywhere the dimensions of these.  Can anyone point me to the
      >>> section/page of the dimensions?
      >>>
      >>> Brian #40308 (trying to join the tailcone to the fuselage!)
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
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      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tailcone Attachment | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
      
      
      Bob's photo and the info is now here:
      http://www.myrv10.com/tips/gotchas.html
      Thanks Bob for taking the time to pass on the info.
      Tim
      
      
      Brian wrote:
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian" <av8er@bellsouth.net>
      > 
      > Excellent!  Thank you!
      > 
      > Brian
      > 
      > DO NOT ARCHIVE
      > 
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" 
      > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      > To: <RV10-List@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:30 PM
      > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      > 
      > 
      >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" 
      >> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      >>
      >> I just sent a pic to Tim for posting.  Exact hole locations are:
      >>
      >> - holes are all 7/16" from edge
      >> - aft hole is 3/8" from aft edge of longeron
      >> - hole spacing is 3/4" center to center
      >>
      >> Bob
      >> --------------------------
      >> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
      >>
      >>
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      >> <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
      >> To: RV10-List@matronics.com <RV10-List@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Sun Sep 18 20:15:05 2005
      >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      >>
      >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" 
      >> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      >>
      >> It's probably not too critical, but I'll scan a pic of the aft part of 
      >> the template and you can post it tomorrow.
      >>
      >> Bob
      >> --------------------------
      >> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
      >>
      >>
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      >> <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
      >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com <rv10-list@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Sun Sep 18 19:30:39 2005
      >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      >>
      >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
      >>
      >> Wow,I missed the previous mention, but this threw me for a loop,
      >> being a QB fuse builder....
      >>
      >> I see what you mean, there's a template (that us QB buyers don't
      >> have, of course) that's used for the drilling.   Not having
      >> actually gone thru this, I am having a hard time visualizing
      >> the drilling, and if this is for the horizontal or vertical
      >> holes in the longeron....but I trust you that these are for the
      >> 4 holes in question.
      >>
      >> So, as a QB builder, who wouldn't *have* that template, and not
      >> having any holes drilled, I would think that this wouldn't be
      >> too nasty to drill as I described earlier though, right?  Or do
      >> you see a problem, Bob?  I guess I just took it in stride, but
      >> you're right, I'll add it to the Gotchas page.
      >>
      >> Tim
      >>
      >>
      >> Tim Olson -- RV-10  #40170
      >> DO NOT ARCHIVE
      >>
      >>
      >> Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
      >>
      >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
      >>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      >>>
      >>> Interestingly, this is the second time in the last couple weeks this
      >>> question has come up.
      >>>
      >>> The initial holes are match drilled using the F1046-B template on
      >>> page 29-3.  They are then match drilled to the tailcone sections and
      >>> enlarged on page 32-3 step 4.
      >>>
      >>> Tim: this appears to be a potential gotcha for QB fuselage folks.
      >>>
      >>> Bob -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless
      >>> Handheld
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      >>> <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      >>> <rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sun Sep 18 18:03:34 2005 Subject: Re:
      >>> RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      >>>
      >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> I'm a bit fuzzy on this already, but, I think those won't be drilled
      >>> at all, and you just need to lay out a good 4 hole pattern.  Just
      >>> leave a good end edge distance on the rear one, and a little working
      >>> space behind the bulkhead on the front one, and then space the other
      >>> 2 holes evenly.  I think you'll end up with something in the 1"
      >>> spacing arena or so.  Other than making sure you have strength there,
      >>> nothing else makes it critical one way or the other.
      >>>
      >>> Tim
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> Brian wrote:
      >>>
      >>>> In step four of page 32-3 (tailcone attach) the instructions say to
      >>>>  "match drill the four #30 holes in the aft end of the mid fuse
      >>>> longeron into the tailcone longeron".  Problem is my QB didn't have
      >>>> these drilled from the factory and I cannot locate in the plans
      >>>> anywhere the dimensions of these.  Can anyone point me to the
      >>>> section/page of the dimensions?
      >>>>
      >>>> Brian #40308 (trying to join the tailcone to the fuselage!)
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
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| Subject:  | NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high! | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
      
      
      Thank You 
      Ray Doerr
      CDNI Principal Engineer
      Sprint PCS
      16020 West 113th Street
      Lenexa, KS 66219
      Mailstop KSLNXK0101
      (913) 859-1414 (Office)
      (913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
      (913) 859-1234 (Fax)
      Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com 
      
      
      I have a question for the list.  I cleco'ed on the upper deck and
      switch/breaker panel to the fuse yesterday and tried to fit the NACA
      vents and the expensive aluminum vents I bought from Van's.  The Vent
      cutouts in the skin are too high on the side skin and hit the underside
      of the switch/breaker panel.  Even if you trim the naca vent as much as
      possible it is still not enough.  Van's should have lowered the skin
      cutout another 1/4" to 3"8", than it would have fit.  Now I am not sure
      what I am going to do.  I was thinking of ordered the NACA vent pieces
      from Van's for the RV-9 which come in two pieces and then you join them
      together with 2" scat tube and clamps.  This might make it longer and
      require a different mounting scheme.  This sucks that at builder 40250,
      this kind of stuff isn't already corrected.  Any thoughts?
      
      
      Ray Doerr
      40250
      Engine and Prop arrived.
      Working on Finishing Kit.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Tailcone Attachment | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      
      No problem!  Turns out that the image probably wasn't as helpful as the
      measurements.
      
      Bob
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
      
      
      Bob's photo and the info is now here:
      http://www.myrv10.com/tips/gotchas.html
      Thanks Bob for taking the time to pass on the info.
      Tim
      
      
      Brian wrote:
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian" <av8er@bellsouth.net>
      > 
      > Excellent!  Thank you!
      > 
      > Brian
      > 
      > DO NOT ARCHIVE
      > 
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" 
      > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      > To: <RV10-List@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 10:30 PM
      > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      > 
      > 
      >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" 
      >> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      >>
      >> I just sent a pic to Tim for posting.  Exact hole locations are:
      >>
      >> - holes are all 7/16" from edge
      >> - aft hole is 3/8" from aft edge of longeron
      >> - hole spacing is 3/4" center to center
      >>
      >> Bob
      >> --------------------------
      >> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
      >>
      >>
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      >> <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
      >> To: RV10-List@matronics.com <RV10-List@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Sun Sep 18 20:15:05 2005
      >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      >>
      >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" 
      >> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      >>
      >> It's probably not too critical, but I'll scan a pic of the aft part
      of 
      >> the template and you can post it tomorrow.
      >>
      >> Bob
      >> --------------------------
      >> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
      >>
      >>
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      >> <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
      >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com <rv10-list@matronics.com>
      >> Sent: Sun Sep 18 19:30:39 2005
      >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      >>
      >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
      >>
      >> Wow,I missed the previous mention, but this threw me for a loop,
      >> being a QB fuse builder....
      >>
      >> I see what you mean, there's a template (that us QB buyers don't
      >> have, of course) that's used for the drilling.   Not having
      >> actually gone thru this, I am having a hard time visualizing
      >> the drilling, and if this is for the horizontal or vertical
      >> holes in the longeron....but I trust you that these are for the
      >> 4 holes in question.
      >>
      >> So, as a QB builder, who wouldn't *have* that template, and not
      >> having any holes drilled, I would think that this wouldn't be
      >> too nasty to drill as I described earlier though, right?  Or do
      >> you see a problem, Bob?  I guess I just took it in stride, but
      >> you're right, I'll add it to the Gotchas page.
      >>
      >> Tim
      >>
      >>
      >> Tim Olson -- RV-10  #40170
      >> DO NOT ARCHIVE
      >>
      >>
      >> Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
      >>
      >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
      >>> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      >>>
      >>> Interestingly, this is the second time in the last couple weeks this
      >>> question has come up.
      >>>
      >>> The initial holes are match drilled using the F1046-B template on
      >>> page 29-3.  They are then match drilled to the tailcone sections and
      >>> enlarged on page 32-3 step 4.
      >>>
      >>> Tim: this appears to be a potential gotcha for QB fuselage folks.
      >>>
      >>> Bob -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless
      >>> Handheld
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> -----Original Message----- From:
      owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      >>> <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      >>> <rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sun Sep 18 18:03:34 2005 Subject:
      Re:
      >>> RV10-List: Tailcone Attachment
      >>>
      >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> I'm a bit fuzzy on this already, but, I think those won't be drilled
      >>> at all, and you just need to lay out a good 4 hole pattern.  Just
      >>> leave a good end edge distance on the rear one, and a little working
      >>> space behind the bulkhead on the front one, and then space the other
      >>> 2 holes evenly.  I think you'll end up with something in the 1"
      >>> spacing arena or so.  Other than making sure you have strength
      there,
      >>> nothing else makes it critical one way or the other.
      >>>
      >>> Tim
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> Brian wrote:
      >>>
      >>>> In step four of page 32-3 (tailcone attach) the instructions say to
      >>>>  "match drill the four #30 holes in the aft end of the mid fuse
      >>>> longeron into the tailcone longeron".  Problem is my QB didn't have
      >>>> these drilled from the factory and I cannot locate in the plans
      >>>> anywhere the dimensions of these.  Can anyone point me to the
      >>>> section/page of the dimensions?
      >>>>
      >>>> Brian #40308 (trying to join the tailcone to the fuselage!)
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
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| Subject:  | NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high! | 
      
      
      This caught me by surprise too. This is what I did There is an angle
      aluminum that is riveted to the side skin like an RV-9A with the vent bolted
      to it, a flex duct that connects the two.
      
      Noel
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
      [NTK]
      Subject: RV10-List: NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high!
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]"
      <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
      
      
      Thank You 
      Ray Doerr
      CDNI Principal Engineer
      Sprint PCS
      16020 West 113th Street
      Lenexa, KS 66219
      Mailstop KSLNXK0101
      (913) 859-1414 (Office)
      (913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
      (913) 859-1234 (Fax)
      Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com 
      
      
      I have a question for the list.  I cleco'ed on the upper deck and
      switch/breaker panel to the fuse yesterday and tried to fit the NACA
      vents and the expensive aluminum vents I bought from Van's.  The Vent
      cutouts in the skin are too high on the side skin and hit the underside
      of the switch/breaker panel.  Even if you trim the naca vent as much as
      possible it is still not enough.  Van's should have lowered the skin
      cutout another 1/4" to 3"8", than it would have fit.  Now I am not sure
      what I am going to do.  I was thinking of ordered the NACA vent pieces
      from Van's for the RV-9 which come in two pieces and then you join them
      together with 2" scat tube and clamps.  This might make it longer and
      require a different mounting scheme.  This sucks that at builder 40250,
      this kind of stuff isn't already corrected.  Any thoughts?
      
      
      Ray Doerr
      40250
      Engine and Prop arrived.
      Working on Finishing Kit.
      
      
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      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
      
      We have the normal Whelen strobe power supply in the tail and run the wire
      that came with the kit from Van's.  I think we get a tiny bit of noise when
      the strobes are on, but it is hardly noticeable.  We also have a Nav in one
      wingtip and a Com in the other.  It's certainly not bad enough to be a
      problem.
      
      Jesse Saint
      I-TEC, Inc.
      jesse@itecusa.org
      www.itecusa.org
      W: 352-465-4545
      C: 352-427-0285
      F: 815-377-3694
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: Strobe wiring
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
      
      Mani,
      
      Absolute good point, I have a coil still in the supply bin and it's not too
      heavy, not much more or less than the power supply. My main reason is I have
      a cheap side that says the wire is cheaper than three power supplies....and
      since I have wing tip antennas, Com 2, Nav and marker beacon I figure if it
      interferes it would do it with the power supply at the tip as well. Good
      hanger conversation though. If I get any problems I'll pull my coax and
      install conventional Comants on the belly (already using one for Com 1) and
      whiskers in the tail for Nav. Everyone I talked to that is using my
      proposed/their setup has not had any problems. I am not concerned about the
      fuel tank/high voltage issue. It would take a lot of things to go wrong for
      my stobe wiring to get to my tanks....but yeah I know, Murphy rides on
      everyones shoulder.
      
      Rick S.
      40185
      Wings
      
      
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| Subject:  | Connector for Trim Servo? | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
      
      We used a 9-pin D-sub connector from Radio Shack.  We ended up going with
      relay decks, though, which makes wiring the servo, the indicator, the switch
      in the panel and the switch on the control stick a little bit of a pain,
      really almost defeating the purpose for making them a quick disconnect.  For
      the Aileron and Rudder trims we used the same relay deck (that Van's sells)
      and just soldered/crimped the wires.
      
      Jesse Saint
      I-TEC, Inc.
      jesse@itecusa.org
      www.itecusa.org
      W: 352-465-4545
      C: 352-427-0285
      F: 815-377-3694
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein
      Subject: RV10-List: Connector for Trim Servo?
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
      
      Hi all,
          What connector is everyone using to connect to the trim servo?
      
      -Jim 40384
      
      
Message 10
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      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
      
      Ken,
      
      If you are north of Orlando, then you are not far from us.  You would we
      welcome to stop by X35 and look at our -10.  It gets back today from a trip
      to Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee and North Carolina.  It will probably have
      the better part of 75 hours on it by then.  It's been running great.  It
      might inspire you to keep up the work.
      
      GOD BLESS!
      
      Jesse Saint
      I-TEC, Inc.
      jesse@itecusa.org
      www.itecusa.org
      W: 352-465-4545
      C: 352-427-0285
      F: 815-377-3694
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Comcast
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hugo Rv10
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Comcast" <kenbpeck@comcast.net>
      
      Hey there!
      
      I'm building a -10 up north of Orlando, but get down to Ft. Lauderdale a few
      
      times a year either on business or to visit my brother.  Would love to stop 
      by if you're interested in meeting another -10 builder.
      
      My next confirmed trip south is week of Dec 5, but will probably come down 
      at least once before then.
      
      Look forward to hearing from you.
      
      Ken Peck
      31 Rosedown Blvd
      Debary, FL
      386-846-4184
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
      Subject: RV10-List: Hugo Rv10
      
      
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
      >
      > I'm ready to close the VS ,it is any provision for a red rotating 
      > (LED)beacon in the RV10 tail,I identified the white in the lower part of 
      > the rudder,any body install traditional VOR antennas at the top of the VS?
      > Hugo
      > I;m working a three blocks from the wicks manufacturer at Ft 
      >  >Lauderdale,Today I will made a cortesy visit(may be I can purchase 
      > direct)
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
Message 11
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      I will be at the MAE airport for a week starting on Wednesday.   Are there
      any RV-10 builders in the area?
      
      
      Noel
      
      
      325HP
      
      
Message 12
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      --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
      
      Absolutely!  My home no. is 772-460-3907.  You can reach me at my home 
      no. anytime.  What is your phone no.?
      
      Rob.
      
      On Sep 18, 2005, at 9:08 PM, Comcast wrote:
      
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Comcast" <kenbpeck@comcast.net>
      >
      > Hey there!
      >
      > I'm building a -10 up north of Orlando, but get down to Ft. Lauderdale 
      > a few times a year either on business or to visit my brother.  Would 
      > love to stop by if you're interested in meeting another -10 builder.
      >
      > My next confirmed trip south is week of Dec 5, but will probably come 
      > down at least once before then.
      >
      > Look forward to hearing from you.
      >
      > Ken Peck
      > 31 Rosedown Blvd
      > Debary, FL
      > 386-846-4184
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
      > To: <RV10-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 6:56 AM
      > Subject: RV10-List: Hugo Rv10
      >
      >
      >> --> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
      >>
      >> I'm ready to close the VS ,it is any provision for a red rotating 
      >> (LED)beacon in the RV10 tail,I identified the white in the lower part 
      >> of the rudder,any body install traditional VOR antennas at the top of 
      >> the VS?
      >> Hugo
      >> I;m working a three blocks from the wicks manufacturer at Ft  
      >> >Lauderdale,Today I will made a cortesy visit(may be I can purchase 
      >> direct)
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
Message 13
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      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
      
      Hey Ken 
      How far along are you?
      We are coming down to Orlando over Thanksgiving, and I always like to
      meet fellow 10 builders, would you be up for a project visit that week?
      Dan 40269
      Wings/wings/wings
      Do Not Archive 
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rob kermanj
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hugo Rv10
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
      
      Absolutely!  My home no. is 772-460-3907.  You can reach me at my home 
      no. anytime.  What is your phone no.?
      
      Rob.
      
      On Sep 18, 2005, at 9:08 PM, Comcast wrote:
      
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Comcast" <kenbpeck@comcast.net>
      >
      > Hey there!
      >
      > I'm building a -10 up north of Orlando, but get down to Ft. Lauderdale
      
      > a few times a year either on business or to visit my brother.  Would 
      > love to stop by if you're interested in meeting another -10 builder.
      >
      > My next confirmed trip south is week of Dec 5, but will probably come 
      > down at least once before then.
      >
      > Look forward to hearing from you.
      >
      > Ken Peck
      > 31 Rosedown Blvd
      > Debary, FL
      > 386-846-4184
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
      > To: <RV10-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 6:56 AM
      > Subject: RV10-List: Hugo Rv10
      >
      >
      >> --> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
      >>
      >> I'm ready to close the VS ,it is any provision for a red rotating 
      >> (LED)beacon in the RV10 tail,I identified the white in the lower part
      
      >> of the rudder,any body install traditional VOR antennas at the top of
      
      >> the VS?
      >> Hugo
      >> I;m working a three blocks from the wicks manufacturer at Ft  
      >> >Lauderdale,Today I will made a cortesy visit(may be I can purchase 
      >> direct)
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high! | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
      
      I believe the hole placement on the side skin was based on the smaller
      1" vents.  The feeling was, as I understand it, that the 1" vents did
      not allow enough air flow. The 2" vents fit but you have to trim off one
      ear. This makes it nice and close to the panel if you want to make a
      cover that will hide everything except the vent itself. The cover will
      end up right next to the lower edge of the panel. Randy
      
      -----Original Message-----
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
      [NTK]
      Subject: RV10-List: NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high!
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" 
      --> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
      
      
      Thank You
      Ray Doerr
      CDNI Principal Engineer
      Sprint PCS
      16020 West 113th Street
      Lenexa, KS 66219
      Mailstop KSLNXK0101
      (913) 859-1414 (Office)
      (913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
      (913) 859-1234 (Fax)
      Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com 
      
      
      I have a question for the list.  I cleco'ed on the upper deck and
      switch/breaker panel to the fuse yesterday and tried to fit the NACA
      vents and the expensive aluminum vents I bought from Van's.  The Vent
      cutouts in the skin are too high on the side skin and hit the underside
      of the switch/breaker panel.  Even if you trim the naca vent as much as
      possible it is still not enough.  Van's should have lowered the skin
      cutout another 1/4" to 3"8", than it would have fit.  Now I am not sure
      what I am going to do.  I was thinking of ordered the NACA vent pieces
      from Van's for the RV-9 which come in two pieces and then you join them
      together with 2" scat tube and clamps.  This might make it longer and
      require a different mounting scheme.  This sucks that at builder 40250,
      this kind of stuff isn't already corrected.  Any thoughts?
      
      
      Ray Doerr
      40250
      Engine and Prop arrived.
      Working on Finishing Kit.
      
      
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| Subject:  | tailcone riveting!! | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
      
      
      Hey all - 
      First, thanks to everyone who responded to my bolt ident query
      yesterday.  This list rocks.  Now the new question:  when riveting the
      top skin on the tailcone, is it ok to climb in there to buck?  I know
      I've seen pics of people inside the tailcone bucking and goofing around,
      but I'm scared of bending j-stiffners, dinging the skins, or otherwise
      screwing stuff up.  Thoughts?
      
      Thanks
      cj
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high! | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
      
      
      Randy,
      
      I don't think that the standard panel seems to be as good of a
      clearance as yours.  I did some playing this weekend and I
      just don't think that even if I cut an ear off that it has
      a chance of fitting.  I chopped off the whole vent rearward
      half, and it takes quite a bit more space for it to fit under
      the panel.  Probably at least as much as the top flange of
      the vent takes up.
      
      I think the only solutions that I can think of for people with
      standard panels will be smaller vents or moving the outlet
      somewhere else and connecting with duct.
      
      That said, Van's REALLY needs to make sure they adjust their
      CNC punch to either lower, or elminate that hole altogether.
      Ray is builder 40250...which is quite a few kits that are
      going to be affected.  In my opinion, they should just
      provide a template and let the builder cut the hole.  Then
      it'll go wherever it needs to for that builders panel and plan.
      
      I myself had this same dilema and basically just pushed off
      completing that section until I find the best solution.
      Ray, I'll keep in touch and maybe we'll figure something good
      out.  The idea that Noel gave out sounds pretty good.  I think
      I'm going to explore what shape of bended aluminum would be
      needed to add a small mounting panel that blends in well with
      the rest of the plane.  The only issue for me is that if it
      rivets thru the skin, I'll have to act quick, because I plan
      to paint soon.
      
      Tim
      
      
      Randy DeBauw wrote:
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
      > 
      > I believe the hole placement on the side skin was based on the smaller
      > 1" vents.  The feeling was, as I understand it, that the 1" vents did
      > not allow enough air flow. The 2" vents fit but you have to trim off one
      > ear. This makes it nice and close to the panel if you want to make a
      > cover that will hide everything except the vent itself. The cover will
      > end up right next to the lower edge of the panel. Randy
      > 
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
      > [NTK]
      > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 6:46 AM
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RV10-List: NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high!
      > 
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" 
      > --> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Thank You
      > Ray Doerr
      > CDNI Principal Engineer
      > Sprint PCS
      > 16020 West 113th Street
      > Lenexa, KS 66219
      > Mailstop KSLNXK0101
      > (913) 859-1414 (Office)
      > (913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
      > (913) 859-1234 (Fax)
      > Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com 
      > 
      > 
      > I have a question for the list.  I cleco'ed on the upper deck and
      > switch/breaker panel to the fuse yesterday and tried to fit the NACA
      > vents and the expensive aluminum vents I bought from Van's.  The Vent
      > cutouts in the skin are too high on the side skin and hit the underside
      > of the switch/breaker panel.  Even if you trim the naca vent as much as
      > possible it is still not enough.  Van's should have lowered the skin
      > cutout another 1/4" to 3"8", than it would have fit.  Now I am not sure
      > what I am going to do.  I was thinking of ordered the NACA vent pieces
      > from Van's for the RV-9 which come in two pieces and then you join them
      > together with 2" scat tube and clamps.  This might make it longer and
      > require a different mounting scheme.  This sucks that at builder 40250,
      > this kind of stuff isn't already corrected.  Any thoughts?
      > 
      > 
      > Ray Doerr
      > 40250
      > Engine and Prop arrived.
      > Working on Finishing Kit.
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >  
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      >  
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: tailcone riveting!! | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
      
      Chris Johnston wrote:
      
      >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
      >
      >
      >Hey all - 
      >First, thanks to everyone who responded to my bolt ident query
      >yesterday.  This list rocks.  Now the new question:  when riveting the
      >top skin on the tailcone, is it ok to climb in there to buck?  I know
      >I've seen pics of people inside the tailcone bucking and goofing around,
      >but I'm scared of bending j-stiffners, dinging the skins, or otherwise
      >screwing stuff up.  Thoughts?
      >
      >Thanks
      >cj
      >
      >
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      What I did was to put a LOT of blankets,quilts,towels on the bottom skin 
      to protect against damaging things, I piled on a bunch, and then advised 
      my daughter (my rivet bucker) to try and avoid stepping/kneeling 
      directly where the stiffeners/bulkheads were, I sweated this also, but 
      it turned out to be  a non event, the padding seemed to do the trick 
      with no damage.
      
      Deems Davis
      #406 waiting on wings to arrive
      Deemsrv10.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: tailcone riveting!! | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Aaron Sims <n217gt@gmail.com>
      
      I was worried about this too.  I used 1/4" fibreboard (the really  
      stiff stuff used for peg boards without the holes) and cut out pieces  
      to lay across the J-channels.  My wife then got inside to buck  
      rivets.  No problems.
      
      
      http://canopyroad.org/gallery/view_photo.php? 
      set_albumName=tailcone&id=IMG_1698
      
      
      --
      Aaron Sims
      RV-10 #40036 (Fuselage/Firewall)
      http://canopyroad.org/rv10/
      n217gt@gmail.com
      
      
      On Sep 19, 2005, at 1:56 PM, Deems Davis wrote:
      
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
      >
      > Chris Johnston wrote:
      >
      >
      >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston"  
      >> <CJohnston@popsound.com>
      >>
      >>
      >> Hey all - First, thanks to everyone who responded to my bolt ident  
      >> query
      >> yesterday.  This list rocks.  Now the new question:  when riveting  
      >> the
      >> top skin on the tailcone, is it ok to climb in there to buck?  I know
      >> I've seen pics of people inside the tailcone bucking and goofing  
      >> around,
      >> but I'm scared of bending j-stiffners, dinging the skins, or  
      >> otherwise
      >> screwing stuff up.  Thoughts?
      >>
      >> Thanks
      >> cj
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      > What I did was to put a LOT of blankets,quilts,towels on the bottom  
      > skin to protect against damaging things, I piled on a bunch, and  
      > then advised my daughter (my rivet bucker) to try and avoid  
      > stepping/kneeling directly where the stiffeners/bulkheads were, I  
      > sweated this also, but it turned out to be  a non event, the  
      > padding seemed to do the trick with no damage.
      >
      > Deems Davis
      > #406 waiting on wings to arrive
      > Deemsrv10.com
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: tailcone riveting!! | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
      
      Hi Chris,
      
      I sent my 130lb 15 year old son in there and it held up just fine...  
      though he did move around carefully.
      
      You can do a lot of that riveting yourself if you plan your sequence,  
      but there are some that you will have to have someone in there for.   
      Having said that, my work was much faster and the results are  
      significantly better having had his help.
      
      Jeff Carpenter
      40304
      Countersinking spar flanges (perhaps for the rest of my life...)
      
      
      On Sep 19, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Chris Johnston wrote:
      
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston"  
      > <CJohnston@popsound.com>
      >
      >
      > Hey all -
      > First, thanks to everyone who responded to my bolt ident query
      > yesterday.  This list rocks.  Now the new question:  when riveting the
      > top skin on the tailcone, is it ok to climb in there to buck?  I know
      > I've seen pics of people inside the tailcone bucking and goofing  
      > around,
      > but I'm scared of bending j-stiffners, dinging the skins, or otherwise
      > screwing stuff up.  Thoughts?
      >
      > Thanks
      > cj
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | tailcone riveting!! | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
      
      Try some padding under a board or something like that to distribute your
      weight over a larger area.  That worked well for us.
      
      Jesse Saint
      I-TEC, Inc.
      jesse@itecusa.org
      www.itecusa.org
      W: 352-465-4545
      C: 352-427-0285
      F: 815-377-3694
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: tailcone riveting!!
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
      
      Chris Johnston wrote:
      
      >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
      >
      >
      >Hey all - 
      >First, thanks to everyone who responded to my bolt ident query
      >yesterday.  This list rocks.  Now the new question:  when riveting the
      >top skin on the tailcone, is it ok to climb in there to buck?  I know
      >I've seen pics of people inside the tailcone bucking and goofing around,
      >but I'm scared of bending j-stiffners, dinging the skins, or otherwise
      >screwing stuff up.  Thoughts?
      >
      >Thanks
      >cj
      >
      >
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      What I did was to put a LOT of blankets,quilts,towels on the bottom skin 
      to protect against damaging things, I piled on a bunch, and then advised 
      my daughter (my rivet bucker) to try and avoid stepping/kneeling 
      directly where the stiffeners/bulkheads were, I sweated this also, but 
      it turned out to be  a non event, the padding seemed to do the trick 
      with no damage.
      
      Deems Davis
      #406 waiting on wings to arrive
      Deemsrv10.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Canadain inspectors rejecting some pre-assembled parts? | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Perry Casson <pcasson@sasktel.net>
      
      Hi All,
      
      Just a short update regarding the report of Canadian inspectors failing 
      RV-10 wings on preclose inspection.  Unfortunately I've still not got 
      names or kits numbers so I've not verified anything  with the builders 
      but here's the info     I've received:
      - At least two kits were affected.
      - All reported defects were under driven shop heads on the 5/16 rivets 
      on the main spars
      - The problems were only found on fast build wings.
      
      I'm got the calipers out to check my slow build spars and found all the 
      rivets were well within spec. as I suspected.
      With the tanks off this should be no big deal to fix but I'd not be a 
      happy guy to get this flagged as a defect during final inspection.
      
      Perry Casson
      Regina, Sk. Canada
      fuel tanks... ick
      
      
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| Subject:  | NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high! | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
      
      I do like the template idea. I will mention it to Ken the next time I
      see him. Randy
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high!
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
      
      
      Randy,
      
      I don't think that the standard panel seems to be as good of a
      clearance as yours.  I did some playing this weekend and I
      just don't think that even if I cut an ear off that it has
      a chance of fitting.  I chopped off the whole vent rearward
      half, and it takes quite a bit more space for it to fit under
      the panel.  Probably at least as much as the top flange of
      the vent takes up.
      
      I think the only solutions that I can think of for people with
      standard panels will be smaller vents or moving the outlet
      somewhere else and connecting with duct.
      
      That said, Van's REALLY needs to make sure they adjust their
      CNC punch to either lower, or elminate that hole altogether.
      Ray is builder 40250...which is quite a few kits that are
      going to be affected.  In my opinion, they should just
      provide a template and let the builder cut the hole.  Then
      it'll go wherever it needs to for that builders panel and plan.
      
      I myself had this same dilema and basically just pushed off
      completing that section until I find the best solution.
      Ray, I'll keep in touch and maybe we'll figure something good
      out.  The idea that Noel gave out sounds pretty good.  I think
      I'm going to explore what shape of bended aluminum would be
      needed to add a small mounting panel that blends in well with
      the rest of the plane.  The only issue for me is that if it
      rivets thru the skin, I'll have to act quick, because I plan
      to paint soon.
      
      Tim
      
      
      Randy DeBauw wrote:
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
      > 
      > I believe the hole placement on the side skin was based on the smaller
      > 1" vents.  The feeling was, as I understand it, that the 1" vents did
      > not allow enough air flow. The 2" vents fit but you have to trim off
      one
      > ear. This makes it nice and close to the panel if you want to make a
      > cover that will hide everything except the vent itself. The cover will
      > end up right next to the lower edge of the panel. Randy
      > 
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray
      R
      > [NTK]
      > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 6:46 AM
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RV10-List: NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high!
      > 
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" 
      > --> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Thank You
      > Ray Doerr
      > CDNI Principal Engineer
      > Sprint PCS
      > 16020 West 113th Street
      > Lenexa, KS 66219
      > Mailstop KSLNXK0101
      > (913) 859-1414 (Office)
      > (913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
      > (913) 859-1234 (Fax)
      > Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com 
      > 
      > 
      > I have a question for the list.  I cleco'ed on the upper deck and
      > switch/breaker panel to the fuse yesterday and tried to fit the NACA
      > vents and the expensive aluminum vents I bought from Van's.  The Vent
      > cutouts in the skin are too high on the side skin and hit the
      underside
      > of the switch/breaker panel.  Even if you trim the naca vent as much
      as
      > possible it is still not enough.  Van's should have lowered the skin
      > cutout another 1/4" to 3"8", than it would have fit.  Now I am not
      sure
      > what I am going to do.  I was thinking of ordered the NACA vent pieces
      > from Van's for the RV-9 which come in two pieces and then you join
      them
      > together with 2" scat tube and clamps.  This might make it longer and
      > require a different mounting scheme.  This sucks that at builder
      40250,
      > this kind of stuff isn't already corrected.  Any thoughts?
      > 
      > 
      > Ray Doerr
      > 40250
      > Engine and Prop arrived.
      > Working on Finishing Kit.
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >  
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      >  
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| Subject:  | Canadain inspectors rejecting some pre-assembled parts? | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
      
      I am pretty sure those rivets are drive at the same place that does them
      for the slow build.  Randy
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry Casson
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Canadain inspectors rejecting some pre-assembled
      parts?
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Perry Casson <pcasson@sasktel.net>
      
      Hi All,
      
      Just a short update regarding the report of Canadian inspectors failing 
      RV-10 wings on preclose inspection.  Unfortunately I've still not got 
      names or kits numbers so I've not verified anything  with the builders 
      but here's the info     I've received:
      - At least two kits were affected.
      - All reported defects were under driven shop heads on the 5/16 rivets 
      on the main spars
      - The problems were only found on fast build wings.
      
      I'm got the calipers out to check my slow build spars and found all the 
      rivets were well within spec. as I suspected.
      With the tanks off this should be no big deal to fix but I'd not be a 
      happy guy to get this flagged as a defect during final inspection.
      
      Perry Casson
      Regina, Sk. Canada
      fuel tanks... ick
      
      
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| Subject:  | For Sale: Whelen HDACF Strobe Power Supply | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
      
      Builders, want to save $150?
      
      Freshly rebuilt Whelen HDACF 3-channel power supply for sale...$230 
      including shipping.  Details here:
      
      http://www.rvproject.com/forsale/whelen.html
      
      )_( Dan
      RV-7 N714D
      http://www.rvproject.com 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Calendar | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
      
      Not many responses but I think I have enough pictures to build something that would
      keep us builders going a little longer in the tough times.
      
      My big incentive was to see four of the five -10's that were customer built up
      at Oshkosh.  So very nice!  There has got to be a bunch more there next year.
      
      
      I thought I might be able to make next year, but the more I work, the more there
      appears that I need to do.  No light at the end of the tunnel just yet!  The
      quickbuild kits start to look nice.  But I am enjoying the building.  It's just
      taking me longer than I would like.
      
      But along the way, it's sooooo nice to see major subassemblies go from drawings
      and a pile of parts to a finished part.  Me being a first time builder I am always
      a little anxious to have my technical couselor come over.  But I have learned
      so much and he is just a wealth of knowledge.  Now I don't hesitate to have
      him look things over.
      
      Now where did I put that engine?  I really must clean out the workshop!
      
      Keep pounding the rivets!
      
      
      ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
      From: "Comcast" <kenbpeck@comcast.net>
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Comcast" <kenbpeck@comcast.net>
      
      Gosh, a great inspirational tool for those of us in the process!  I'd gladly 
      cough up a few $$ for something I could put on my office wall!
      
      Ken
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
      Subject: RV10-List: 2006 Calendar
      
      
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
      >
      > I have thought about making a 2006 calendar (RV-10 Style!)
      >
      > Several questions:
      >
      > (1) I would need to get some great pictures for use on the Calendar. 
      > These would need to be high resolution digital if at all possible.  I 
      > would also need to have the photographers permision to use them on the 
      > calendar and a small paragraph about the picture.
      >
      > (2) Anyone care to list any important dates they would like to see 
      > highlighted on the Calendar (First Flight Anniversaries, Holidays, etc.)
      >
      > (3) Distribution? - PDF (Personal use only), Printed - Not stapled for 
      > wall hanging, Printed / Stapled.
      >
      > Comments?
      >
      > Jim Combs
      > #40192, N312F - Fuselage
      
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high! | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
      
      Eliminate that hole all together and while they are at it they can
      delete the CNC coordinates to that drag inducing passenger duct thingy
      as well.
      
      John - KUAO
      
      -----Original Message-----
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: NACA Vent cutout on side skin is too high!
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
      
      I do like the template idea. I will mention it to Ken the next time I
      see him. Randy
      
      
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| Subject:  | Connector for Trim Servo? | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "bruce snyder" <SNYDER888@peoplepc.com>
      
      On a related subject, for those that have finished wiring or nearly finished
      wiring, how much wire and what gauges did you end up using.  I know every
      installation will be different but it would be nice to have a ballpark list
      of wire lengths and gauges to compare to my estimates.  Thanks.
      
      Bruce Snyder
      Wings #40353
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: Connector for Trim Servo?
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
      
      We used a 9-pin D-sub connector from Radio Shack.  We ended up going with
      relay decks, though, which makes wiring the servo, the indicator, the switch
      in the panel and the switch on the control stick a little bit of a pain,
      really almost defeating the purpose for making them a quick disconnect.  For
      the Aileron and Rudder trims we used the same relay deck (that Van's sells)
      and just soldered/crimped the wires.
      
      Jesse Saint
      I-TEC, Inc.
      jesse@itecusa.org
      www.itecusa.org
      W: 352-465-4545
      C: 352-427-0285
      F: 815-377-3694
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein
      Subject: RV10-List: Connector for Trim Servo?
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
      
      Hi all,
          What connector is everyone using to connect to the trim servo?
      
      -Jim 40384
      
      
 
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