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1. 08:03 AM - Hugo Rv10 ()
2. 09:05 AM - Re: Hugo Rv10 (James Hein)
3. 09:26 AM - Re: Hugo Rv10 (Darton Steve)
4. 09:47 AM - Re: Hugo Rv10 (Sean Stephens)
5. 11:31 AM - uncensored mail list (eagerlee)
6. 11:47 AM - Re: uncensored mail list (linn walters)
7. 12:58 PM - Re: uncensored mail list (Matt Dralle)
8. 01:40 PM - Re: uncensored mail list (JOHN STARN)
9. 01:51 PM - Re: uncensored mail list (Rick)
10. 02:06 PM - Re: uncensored mail list (Dj Merrill)
11. 06:21 PM - Re: Temporary Wheels (Jim Combs)
12. 06:52 PM - Re: Temporary Wheels - Correct pictures this time (Jim Combs)
13. 10:06 PM - Re: Hugo Rv10 (Ken Peck)
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--> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
his is my sunday question,when drilling the rudder trailing edge,the plans say
first to drill perpendicular to the cord,later say to countersink perpendicular
to the face,how you will be able to do so if the hole line is out of line ,and
what is the importance of do so if when you counters. in both sides for the
skin dimples the hole remain is humongous.did I made something wrong?
hugo
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--> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
Hugo,
When you drill perpendicular to the chord, you are drilling through
both skins. Its hard to tell if you're perpendicular to the chord or
not; The difference is so slight (probably 1/2 a degree) that its hard
to tell. All I did was to drill so that the bit comes out the matching
hole on the other side!
As for countersinking, use a slow drill; countersinking the wedge
enlarges the pilot hole a bit when you do the other side of the wedge.
That hole will be hidden, and "filled in" a bit with the proseal that
comes later (You did order your proseal, right?).
My Proseal recommendations? Don't get the 30min tube, just go for
the 2-hr quart can; Then you won't have to rush, and it gives you more
time when you do the same thing to the elevator trailing edges.
-Jim 40384, Alodining the main spar countersinks (yes, I've gone off the
deep end... and I like it!)
gommone7@bellsouth.net wrote:
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>his is my sunday question,when drilling the rudder trailing edge,the plans say
first to drill perpendicular to the cord,later say to countersink perpendicular
to the face,how you will be able to do so if the hole line is out of line ,and
what is the importance of do so if when you counters. in both sides for the
skin dimples the hole remain is humongous.did I made something wrong?
>hugo
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com>
Hugo,
Just follow those instructions as best as you can. The
drilled hole needs to be drilled perpendicular to the
chord so that it exits the other side in the right
place. The countersink is perpendicular to the skin
because that is how the rivets are shaped. If you get
out of that alignment it will not matter because the
rivet will conform to the shape of the hole. All of
these trailing edge rivet holes are out of alignmentin
respect to the face of the rivet head and the shaft of
the rivet.
Steve 40212
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> his is my sunday question,when drilling the rudder
> trailing edge,the plans say first to drill
> perpendicular to the cord,later say to countersink
> perpendicular to the face,how you will be able to do
> so if the hole line is out of line ,and what is the
> importance of do so if when you counters. in both
> sides for the skin dimples the hole remain is
> humongous.did I made something wrong?
> hugo
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
Hugo,
It makes it a TON easier to build a little jig to hold the trailing edge
and use a drill press to countersink.
Read about it and see a picture here...
<http://rv10.stephensville.com/archives/2005/01/dimpling_deburr.html>
-Sean #40303
Darton Steve wrote:
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> Hugo,
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> Just follow those instructions as best as you can. The
> drilled hole needs to be drilled perpendicular to the
> chord so that it exits the other side in the right
> place. The countersink is perpendicular to the skin
> because that is how the rivets are shaped. If you get
> out of that alignment it will not matter because the
> rivet will conform to the shape of the hole. All of
> these trailing edge rivet holes are out of alignmentin
> respect to the face of the rivet head and the shaft of
> the rivet.
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> Steve 40212
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> --- gommone7@bellsouth.net wrote:
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>> his is my sunday question,when drilling the rudder
>> trailing edge,the plans say first to drill
>> perpendicular to the cord,later say to countersink
>> perpendicular to the face,how you will be able to do
>> so if the hole line is out of line ,and what is the
>> importance of do so if when you counters. in both
>> sides for the skin dimples the hole remain is
>> humongous.did I made something wrong?
>> hugo
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "eagerlee" <eagerlee@comcast.net>
how soon we forget. The reason this matronics list became so popular was
because we didn't want anybody restricting the input. Just zip past those
"out of office" things and be glad we don't have a monitor filtering stuff
out.
Is anybody thinking of an alternate engine? I know it's somewhat
sacrilegious to consider an experimental engine in an experimental aircraft
with such reliable, tried and true manufacturers (Lycoming?) out there, BUT
Jan Eggenfellner is working on a new ratio PSRU that will allow the Suburu
H6 engine to operate at a high enough RPM to develop 240 HP. If he offers a
firewall forward kit with a supercharged H6 I'll plunk down some money.
Paul Hahn
#203 - slo-build
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--> RV10-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
eagerlee wrote:
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>how soon we forget. The reason this matronics list became so popular was
>because we didn't want anybody restricting the input.
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That's true!
> Just zip past those
>"out of office" things and be glad we don't have a monitor filtering stuff
>out.
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I have a problem with that. Asking Matt to unsubscribe a guy that's got
no control over the many 'out of office' replies isn't 'filtering stuff
out'. It's keeping the list enjoyable ..... and I, for one, find the
auto replies annoying and frustrating .... and I don't need any more of
either of those things. I hope Matt does as requested .... and would do
the same to anybody else that fills the list and the archives with
repetitive 'spam'.
Just MHO,
Linn
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> Is anybody thinking of an alternate engine? I know it's somewhat
>sacrilegious to consider an experimental engine in an experimental aircraft
>with such reliable, tried and true manufacturers (Lycoming?) out there, BUT
>Jan Eggenfellner is working on a new ratio PSRU that will allow the Suburu
>H6 engine to operate at a high enough RPM to develop 240 HP. If he offers a
>firewall forward kit with a supercharged H6 I'll plunk down some money.
>Paul Hahn
>#203 - slo-build
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Hi Guys,
Couple of things. First, I was on vacation for the last few days and
wasn't checking email regularly like I normally do. Usually, I would
have caught the auto-responder email early on and gotten it stopped
before there were more than one or two. That being said, I actually
do have a filter for these auto responder messages; the problem this
time was that the body of the text indicating the given condition was
written in German and even the English translation didn't fit the
normal verbiage of this type of message. Consequently, my filter
didn't catch them.
Rest assured, I have updated the filter to catch this variant of the
out-of-the-office message for next time.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin
At 11:46 PM 9/25/2005 Sunday, you wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
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>eagerlee wrote:
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>>how soon we forget. The reason this matronics list became so popular was
>>because we didn't want anybody restricting the input.
>That's true!
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>> Just zip past those
>>"out of office" things and be glad we don't have a monitor filtering stuff
>>out.
>I have a problem with that. Asking Matt to unsubscribe a guy that's
>got no control over the many 'out of office' replies isn't
>'filtering stuff out'. It's keeping the list enjoyable ..... and I,
>for one, find the auto replies annoying and frustrating .... and I
>don't need any more of either of those things. I hope Matt does as
>requested .... and would do the same to anybody else that fills the
>list and the archives with repetitive 'spam'.
>Just MHO,
>Linn
>do not archive
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>> Is anybody thinking of an alternate engine? I know it's somewhat
>>sacrilegious to consider an experimental engine in an experimental aircraft
>>with such reliable, tried and true manufacturers (Lycoming?) out there, BUT
>>Jan Eggenfellner is working on a new ratio PSRU that will allow the Suburu
>>H6 engine to operate at a high enough RPM to develop 240 HP. If he offers a
>>firewall forward kit with a supercharged H6 I'll plunk down some money.
>>Paul Hahn
>>#203 - slo-build
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<43379956.2050805@cfl.rr.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20050925125033.028fa2b8@matronics.com>
--> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
That's OK Matt, I was waiting for someone to spell "Kazoonhite" for us.
KABONG Do Not Archive. 8*)
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From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: uncensored mail list
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
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> Couple of things. the body of the text indicating the given condition was
> written in German and even the English translation didn't fit the normal
> verbiage of this type of message. Consequently, my filter didn't catch
> them.
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
FWIW, Malcom is an RV-10 builder....in Sweden I think..
Rick S.
40185
Fuselage
Do not archive
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
Matt Dralle wrote:
> Rest assured, I have updated the filter to catch this variant of the
> out-of-the-office message for next time.
Matt, you are awesome! Thanks! :-)
-Dj
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| Subject: | Re: Temporary Wheels |
D:\IMail\spool\DCP_1401s.jpg;
This weekend I joined the front and rear fuselage sections. This made the assembly
too large to fit through my workshop doors forcing a move to the garage.
I needed to be able to easily move it back to the workshop door as well (walkout
basment location).
In order to make it more easily movable, I fabricated a temporary set of wheels.
So far so good. A single piece of 1.5" aluminum angle, two tires and some
bolts and now it moves with ease.
Jim Combs
N312F - Fuselage
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"Hatamos, Grant" <GHatamos@lexmark.com>
| Subject: | Re: Temporary Wheels - Correct pictures this time |
D:\IMail\spool\DCP_1556s.jpg;
Sorry, grabbed the wrong pictures.
Jim C
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Ken Peck" <kenbpeck@comcast.net>
Gosh I wish I'd read this two days ago.... At least I now have plenty of
scrap trailing edge from which to make my jig...
If anyone else needs a little scrap, drop me a note.... The countersinking
was a slight bit overzealous.
Ken 40439
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Stephens" <schmoboy@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hugo Rv10
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
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> Hugo,
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> It makes it a TON easier to build a little jig to hold the trailing edge
> and use a drill press to countersink.
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> Read about it and see a picture here...
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> <http://rv10.stephensville.com/archives/2005/01/dimpling_deburr.html>
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> -Sean #40303
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> Darton Steve wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com>
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>> Hugo,
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>> Just follow those instructions as best as you can. The
>> drilled hole needs to be drilled perpendicular to the
>> chord so that it exits the other side in the right
>> place. The countersink is perpendicular to the skin
>> because that is how the rivets are shaped. If you get
>> out of that alignment it will not matter because the
>> rivet will conform to the shape of the hole. All of
>> these trailing edge rivet holes are out of alignmentin
>> respect to the face of the rivet head and the shaft of
>> the rivet.
>>
>> Steve 40212
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>>> his is my sunday question,when drilling the rudder
>>> trailing edge,the plans say first to drill
>>> perpendicular to the cord,later say to countersink
>>> perpendicular to the face,how you will be able to do
>>> so if the hole line is out of line ,and what is the
>>> importance of do so if when you counters. in both
>>> sides for the skin dimples the hole remain is
>>> humongous.did I made something wrong?
>>> hugo
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