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1. 12:09 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
2. 05:20 AM - Re: Cherry Blind Rivets (Mark Ritter)
3. 07:18 AM - Re: Cherry Blind Rivets (PJ Seipel)
4. 07:50 AM - Re: Temporary Wheels - Correct pictures this time (Jim Combs)
5. 08:00 AM - Re: Cherry Blind Rivets (Dj Merrill)
6. 09:20 AM - Re: Cherry Blind Rivets (Stein Bruch)
7. 12:12 PM - Re: Engine choice (Gary Specketer)
8. 02:56 PM - Re: Re: Engine choice (Jim Combs)
9. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: Engine choice (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
10. 04:03 PM - Re: Re: Engine choice (Gary Specketer)
11. 04:17 PM - RV10 Builder in Houston ? (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
12. 06:21 PM - Aileron Bellcrank Bushing (John Hasbrouck)
13. 06:37 PM - Re: Re: Engine choice (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
14. 06:58 PM - Re: Aileron Bellcrank Bushing (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
15. 07:20 PM - Re: Aileron Bellcrank Bushing (Jim Combs)
16. 07:32 PM - Re: Re: Engine choice (Jim Combs)
17. 08:51 PM - RV-10 propeller test? (LessDragProd@aol.com)
18. 09:03 PM - Re: Aileron Bellcrank Bushing (AndrewTR30@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
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Dear Lister,
Please read over the RV10-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV10-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
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Matt Dralle
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| Subject: | Cherry Blind Rivets |
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| Subject: | Re: Cherry Blind Rivets |
--> RV10-List message posted by: PJ Seipel <seipel@seznam.cz>
You can try sending a special request to Spruce. If they can find them,
they'll get them for you. In my experience they've been very responsive
when asked for something they don't normally carry.
PJ
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Dj Merrill wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
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>Hi all,
> I'm trying to find a source of Cherry Blind Rivets
>("Pop" Rivets) specifically AACQ-3-2 or AAC-3-2.
>These are 3/32 dia by 1/8 length flush head rivets.
>I've checked Aircraft Spruce, Vans, Wicks, and even a
>Google search, but I can't find any aluminum flush rivets that are less
>than 1/8 inch dia.
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> Any ideas?
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>Thanks,
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>-Dj
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| Subject: | Temporary Wheels - Correct pictures this time |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
Nope, It really is the bottom section of the RV-10. It has now outgrown the basement
workshop (Doors are NOT wide enough!).
Once you join those two floor sections, you get an idea of just how big the cabin
is.
I work on it just outside the doors and then roll it to the garage for safe keeping.
As soon as the weather gets cold enough, I will do all the work in the
garage. It's a little further from the workshop, but at least I can heat it.
The fuselage is quite a bit more work than the wings, but it's beginning to take
shape. The plans writer was clearly a different person. The writing style
is significantly different. I have had to re-read sections more than once to
make sure I understand all the details. Still not bad though. Just different.
FYI, Vans has begun work on the RV-12. It is an LSA. There is an article in the
latest RViator.
Jim Combs
N312F - #40192
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Noel & Yoshie Simmons" <noel@blueskyaviation.net>
Looks like the beginning of a light sport aircraft
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| Subject: | Re: Cherry Blind Rivets |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
PJ Seipel wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: PJ Seipel <seipel@seznam.cz>
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> You can try sending a special request to Spruce. If they can find them,
> they'll get them for you. In my experience they've been very responsive
> when asked for something they don't normally carry.
Good call - that's worth a try.
Thanks! :-)
-Dj
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| Subject: | Cherry Blind Rivets |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
I used to keep these in my "cabinet of goodies", but now I just checked and
I'm out. I just looked up the pricing, and these little buggers are not
cheap, but I can get you all you need for about $.15 each (AAC-03-02
Cherry's). They aren't super easy to find, but not that rare either.
Anyway, get hold of me off list and we'll get you taken care of.
Cheers,
Stein.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dj Merrill
Subject: RV10-List: Cherry Blind Rivets
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
Hi all,
I'm trying to find a source of Cherry Blind Rivets
("Pop" Rivets) specifically AACQ-3-2 or AAC-3-2.
These are 3/32 dia by 1/8 length flush head rivets.
I've checked Aircraft Spruce, Vans, Wicks, and even a
Google search, but I can't find any aluminum flush rivets that are less
than 1/8 inch dia.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
-Dj
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| Subject: | RE: Engine choice |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
I had a chance to buy a used DeMars engine for a great price. I called Vans
and they told me that most 260 Lycs work. So I got a AEIO540D4B5. I did
not need the aerobatic function but it came with the package. I received
the engine this week and it looks like I have the correct ears, but it is a
rear inlet for the injector/ air tube and remote mount injector.
It looks to me that the cross tube on the motor mount will conflict with the
inlet. Anyone have any light to shead on this. If it is a problem, what is
the solution? Can I buy a new cold induction box that has a forward
opening?
Thanks for comments.
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Engine choice |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
Gary,
What is DeMars?
I am still looking for an engine. I have contacted several places. Really want
a used engine with some time left on it. Plan to rebuild it at a latter date.
Not wanting to grow big bucks at a zero timed engine right now.
Jim C
#40192 - N312F - Fuselage
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
I had a chance to buy a used DeMars engine for a great price. I called Vans
and they told me that most 260 Lycs work. So I got a AEIO540D4B5. I did
not need the aerobatic function but it came with the package. I received
the engine this week and it looks like I have the correct ears, but it is a
rear inlet for the injector/ air tube and remote mount injector.
It looks to me that the cross tube on the motor mount will conflict with the
inlet. Anyone have any light to shead on this. If it is a problem, what is
the solution? Can I buy a new cold induction box that has a forward
opening?
Thanks for comments.
Gary
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| Subject: | RE: Engine choice |
I'm starting to seriously consider Eggs forthcoming 240HP Subaru FWF for the 10.
I believe it's still based on the 3.0 H6 which has been increased to 250HP
in the 2006 model year. Plus I believe Eggs version is supercharged which is
always nice if you want to fly up in the teens. He says complete info will be
released in January and he will start production on them then. Hmm, 240HP supercharged,
liquid cooled, lighter, lower fuel consumption, smoother, quieter,
and mogas or avgas too boot! $33k with MT prop is looking pretty good from
where I'm sitting. I think I'm going to put an extra fitting in my tanks now
for the return line just in case.
I know there were some problems when he was first starting out but any more recent
horror stories on his engines?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Flaps
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Combs
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RE: Engine choice
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
Gary,
What is DeMars?
I am still looking for an engine. I have contacted several places. Really want
a used engine with some time left on it. Plan to rebuild it at a latter date.
Not wanting to grow big bucks at a zero timed engine right now.
Jim C
#40192 - N312F - Fuselage
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
I had a chance to buy a used DeMars engine for a great price. I called Vans and
they told me that most 260 Lycs work. So I got a AEIO540D4B5. I did not need
the aerobatic function but it came with the package. I received the engine
this week and it looks like I have the correct ears, but it is a rear inlet for
the injector/ air tube and remote mount injector.
It looks to me that the cross tube on the motor mount will conflict with the inlet.
Anyone have any light to shead on this. If it is a problem, what is the
solution? Can I buy a new cold induction box that has a forward opening?
Thanks for comments.
Gary
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| Subject: | RE: Engine choice |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
Dick DeMars rebulds engines and increases HP by porting and attention to
details that are beyond Lycoming Specs. He has been around for a long time/
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Combs
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RE: Engine choice
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
Gary,
What is DeMars?
I am still looking for an engine. I have contacted several places. Really
want a used engine with some time left on it. Plan to rebuild it at a
latter date. Not wanting to grow big bucks at a zero timed engine right
now.
Jim C
#40192 - N312F - Fuselage
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
I had a chance to buy a used DeMars engine for a great price. I called Vans
and they told me that most 260 Lycs work. So I got a AEIO540D4B5. I did
not need the aerobatic function but it came with the package. I received
the engine this week and it looks like I have the correct ears, but it is a
rear inlet for the injector/ air tube and remote mount injector.
It looks to me that the cross tube on the motor mount will conflict with the
inlet. Anyone have any light to shead on this. If it is a problem, what is
the solution? Can I buy a new cold induction box that has a forward
opening?
Thanks for comments.
Gary
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| Subject: | RV10 Builder in Houston ? |
I may be overnight at Hobby Field Monday and/or Tuesday. Any 10 builders in
that area that don't mind a visitor.
Thanks,
Doug Preston
BHM
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| Subject: | Aileron Bellcrank Bushing |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
I need to ream the bushing for the aileron bellcrank for the AN4 bolt. Any
ideas on how best to do this. The thing's over 2 1/2 inches long and
difficult to mount in my drill press. Best to use a 1/4 inch drill or a
ream? Any suggestion appreciated!
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| Subject: | RE: Engine choice |
I have been looking into Eggenfellners engine and would be happy to talk
with you. I have been folowing him for years and am very impressed.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: Engine choice
I'm starting to seriously consider Eggs forthcoming 240HP Subaru FWF
for the 10. I believe it's still based on the 3.0 H6 which has been
increased to 250HP in the 2006 model year. Plus I believe Eggs version
is supercharged which is always nice if you want to fly up in the teens.
He says complete info will be released in January and he will start
production on them then. Hmm, 240HP supercharged, liquid cooled,
lighter, lower fuel consumption, smoother, quieter, and mogas or avgas
too boot! $33k with MT prop is looking pretty good from where I'm
sitting. I think I'm going to put an extra fitting in my tanks now for
the return line just in case.
I know there were some problems when he was first starting out but any
more recent horror stories on his engines?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Flaps
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Combs
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RE: Engine choice
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
Gary,
What is DeMars?
I am still looking for an engine. I have contacted several places.
Really want a used engine with some time left on it. Plan to rebuild it
at a latter date. Not wanting to grow big bucks at a zero timed engine
right now.
Jim C
#40192 - N312F - Fuselage
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
I had a chance to buy a used DeMars engine for a great price. I called
Vans and they told me that most 260 Lycs work. So I got a AEIO540D4B5.
I did not need the aerobatic function but it came with the package. I
received the engine this week and it looks like I have the correct ears,
but it is a rear inlet for the injector/ air tube and remote mount
injector.
It looks to me that the cross tube on the motor mount will conflict with
the inlet. Anyone have any light to shead on this. If it is a problem,
what is the solution? Can I buy a new cold induction box that has a
forward opening?
Thanks for comments.
Gary
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| Subject: | Aileron Bellcrank Bushing |
If you don't think you can keep a drill bit square to the bushing, I would probably
pick up a reamer.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 flaps
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hasbrouck
Subject: RV10-List: Aileron Bellcrank Bushing
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck"
--> <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
I need to ream the bushing for the aileron bellcrank for the AN4 bolt. Any ideas
on how best to do this. The thing's over 2 1/2 inches long and difficult to
mount in my drill press. Best to use a 1/4 inch drill or a ream? Any suggestion
appreciated!
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Bellcrank Bushing |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
I took mine to a machine shop (where I work). They chucked it into a lathe and
then used a reamer. At least use a reamer.
There are bushings and various pieces that "should" be machined if at all possible.
Jim Combs
#40192 - 312F Fuselage
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
I need to ream the bushing for the aileron bellcrank for the AN4 bolt. Any
ideas on how best to do this. The thing's over 2 1/2 inches long and
difficult to mount in my drill press. Best to use a 1/4 inch drill or a
ream? Any suggestion appreciated!
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| Subject: | RE: Engine choice |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Combs" <jimc@mail.infra-read.com>
I thought I saw somewhere that he was going to a different gear ratio on the PSRU
to allow the engine to run slightly higher RPM to get more horsepower.
I watched a video and got real uncomfortable with the engine running 5000 + RPM
on takeoff and around 4000 RPM on cruise. I know the Subaru engines are known
to handle the high RPM for long periods. But It really made me rethink the
engine choice.
The last time I checked, there were no higher insurance premiums to using his FWF
package either. That's a big plus for him and his work.
He's got quite a few RV's racking up flying time.
Still watching his work (yet still searching for a Lyco too!)
Jim Combs
#40192 - N312F Reserved - Fuselage
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| Subject: | RV-10 propeller test? |
Hi All,
Is anyone willing to test both the RV-10 MT Propeller and the RV-10 Hartzell
propeller on their flying RV-10?
Please contact me directly at _jim@lessdrag.com_ (mailto:jim@lessdrag.com) ,
or call me at (805) 795-5377.
Van's Aircraft hasn't had time available with their RV-10 to test the RV-10
MT Propeller.
The Hartzell propeller Van's Aircraft sells to RV-10 builders, model number
C2YR-1BFP/F8068D, is unique to the RV-10.
In talking with Hartzell, apparently the C2YR-1BFP/F8068D propeller can only
be purchased from Van's Aircraft.
And Van's Aircraft can only sell one Hartzell propeller to each builder.
Do you see were this is going?
The Hartzell builders are the only ones with the RV-10 Hartzell propellers.
It looks like it is up to someone with a flying RV-10 using a Hartzell
propeller to step forward, if both propellers are to be tested on a common
airframe.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Bellcrank Bushing |
After screwwing one up in my drill press I took the reamer to a machine
shop. He chucked it into a lathe and it came out fine.
Andrew Rayhill
Wing tips
Phoenix
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