---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 10/16/05: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:44 AM - Re: Door latch warning light (Mark Ritter) 2. 04:45 AM - Re: Door latch warning light (Mark Ritter) 3. 06:39 AM - Re: solder or crimp?? (Dan Masys) 4. 11:38 AM - Re: Air Box/Filter (Jesse Saint) 5. 02:51 PM - inertial belts update (David McNeill) 6. 03:13 PM - wings problems () 7. 04:40 PM - Re: wings problems (James Hein) 8. 09:14 PM - Re: Elongated hole (James Laura Riley) 9. 09:14 PM - Re: Elongated hole (James Laura Riley) 10. 09:27 PM - Bolt direction (James Laura Riley) 11. 09:49 PM - Re: Air Box/Filter (DejaVu) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:45 AM PST US From: "Mark Ritter" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door latch warning light DNA: do not archive Its-Bogus: do not forward to list - No Plain-Text Section --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. 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If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:31 AM PST US From: Dan Masys Subject: Re: RV10-List: solder or crimp?? --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys I've had soldered D-sub connectors on my TruTrak servos running for about 175 flight hours on my RV-7A without any problem. Just use a length of heat shrink tubing that slides over the soldered pin and the attached wire, and embed everything in some Shoe Goo after all wires are soldered, and it is a very substantial while flexible connection. I did adopt a simple rule on the -7 after having a few flaky wiring connections on things like the trim indicator and a couple of instrument backlights, and that is to use 20 ga. wire as the minimum wire size in the plane. It is much easier to work with and more resistant to mechanical breaks than 22 ga and higher. Cheap insurance for durability and the weight difference is negligible. Just my $0.02 based on one RV flying and another abuilding'. -Dan Masys > > How many builders with Tru-Trak servos are using the solder type D-Sub > connectors that they provide. I've been taught and it's my experience that > soldered connections fail prematurely when exposed to vibration. The heat > hardens the copper strands and they get brittle from repeated work hardening > vibrations. It's a definite no-no to solder wires in a certificated > aircraft. Anybody want to voice an opinion here? It will cost me about $44 > for the crimpers and about $.40 per pin/socket plus a couple bucks per > plug/receptacle to go the crimped route, which I'll probably do because > there will be many more D-Sub connectors. > > Paul Hahn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:38:50 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Air Box/Filter It's pinched in place by the glass box and the top plate, I believe. That pressure is part of making the airbox. Fun stuff! Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DejaVu Subject: RV10-List: Air Box/Filter The airbox content includes a base plate which is above the filter, an airbox top plate which the base plate is screwed to. These two plates are attached to the injector body. And the glass box itself which is attached to the top plate via rivets on the side of the box. How is the air filter kept in its place? Anh #141 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:51:41 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RV10-List: inertial belts update we have now established the hardpoints for the inertial belts for the 10. I have enclosed two pictures and a pdf of the drawings for the belts. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:13:35 PM PST US From: Subject: RV10-List: wings problems --> RV10-List message posted by: About a month ago some body say where problems in Canada regarding spars riveting,was any follow up .I thinks I will recive mine an a month ,and like to know if the problem was real. Hugo ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:49 PM PST US From: James Hein Subject: Re: RV10-List: wings problems --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein No idea on the story, but I took my rivet gauge and checked all my spar rivets. They're all okay. -Jim 40384, done priming rear spar. watching paint dry now :) gommone7@bellsouth.net wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: > >About a month ago some body say where problems in Canada regarding spars riveting,was any follow up .I thinks I will recive mine an a month ,and like to know if the problem was real. >Hugo > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:37 PM PST US From: "James Laura Riley" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Elongated hole John, It's not really that big of a deal. I would just put a doubler piece in behind the elongated hole. Take some scrap and cut a piece 1.5"x.5" and rivet it to the rib only using two flush rivets. Drill and dimple the original hole where it should be and walla, good to go. You just have to use a slightly longer rivet in that hole. Jim Riley Fuselage Folks, I know this has been discussed before, but my search came up with examples not quite the same. So, am asking anew. The part is one of the nose ribs for the HS. Using the pneumatic squeezer, working too quickly, I punched a hole next to one that I was trying to dimple. It was so close to the original hole that it made a bigger hole, about 3/8 inch, but oblong in shape. Any suggestions as what to do? An oops rivets could not fill it if I were to drill it out. The picture shows the elongated hole in the foreground, with a correctly dimpled hole on the other side of the nose rib in the background. John Jessen 40328 HS (Finally made up my mind and ordered the SB wings today) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:37 PM PST US From: "James Laura Riley" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Elongated hole There's no reason to replace that rib. It's not that big of deal, and it can be easily patched up. As for building the perfect plane, unless you're the almighty one, it's not going to happen. Every RV has an error or two on them. If you're lucky, you'll be the only one the ever notices it/them. The real question is, do you want to be a flyer or do you want to be a builder??? I'm lucky because I get to fly for a living. So, I kind of like the hobby of building. But, Van's makes it very easy for the average person to be a flyer in a solid aircraft. To each their own. Jim Riley Fuselage ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:22 PM PST US From: "James Laura Riley" Subject: RV10-List: Bolt direction I'm just getting started on the fuselage and I ran into something that bothers me. Some of you will probably just scoff this and say that I'm too anal, but I figured one of you would know the answer. On the aft bulkhead that attaches to the spar, the plans calls for some of the bolts to point aft and some of them to point forward. In other words, if you look across the front you'll see some bolt heads and some nuts. The convention that I was taught is that bolts should point down or aft, if possible. I'm just wondering if it really matters which direction the bolts point or does Van's have some grand plan that I don't know about (most likely) and I should just stick to the plans;-) Thanks, Jim Riley ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:20 PM PST US From: "DejaVu" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air Box/Filter Jesse, After reading the non-RV10-style instructions more carefully, especially the chicken-scratch sketches, I realized the same. Thanks! It is fun stuff.:( Anh ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Saint To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 2:37 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Air Box/Filter It's pinched in place by the glass box and the top plate, I believe. That pressure is part of making the airbox. Fun stuff! Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DejaVu Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 1:23 AM To: RV10 Subject: RV10-List: Air Box/Filter The airbox content includes a base plate which is above the filter, an airbox top plate which the base plate is screwed to. These two plates are attached to the injector body. And the glass box itself which is attached to the top plate via rivets on the side of the box. How is the air filter kept in its place? Anh #141