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1. 07:36 AM - Tail Cone Tube (Chris Hukill)
2. 08:28 AM - Cylinder advise (Mike Lauritsen - Work)
3. 08:40 AM - RV-10 Builders in Louisville, KY ()
4. 11:54 AM - Re: Cylinder advise (RAS)
5. 12:34 PM - Re: Cylinder advise (Russell Daves)
6. 01:37 PM - Re: Cylinder advise (Patrick Thyssen)
7. 02:11 PM - Re: Cylinder advise (John Hasbrouck)
8. 02:24 PM - Re: Cylinder advise (Mike Lauritsen - Work)
9. 02:34 PM - Inertial belts (David McNeill)
10. 06:57 PM - Re: Cylinder advise (Russell Daves)
11. 07:16 PM - Re: Cylinder advise (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
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Here's what I did on my RV-8 for golf clubs etc. Note that the weight is on the rear baggage shelf, not the tube, so there are no CG considerations and the strength of the tube is not a critical. I would definitely suggest that an opening in the rear baggage bulkhead not be used, as in turbulence something certainly could end up back in the elevator bellcranks, maybe even from the front seat area! Pictures of my tube are on my RV8 website. http://members.cox.net/cjhukill/
Chris Hukill
Working on tailcone
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I am about to have to purchase some new cylinders for my narrow deck IO-540.
I am going back and forth between Lycoming and ECI. Does anyone have
suggestions one way or another? I have only heard one bad experience with
ECI and that was when they were brand new. I understand that ECIs have a
coating on them that helps prevent rust during the break in period. Not
being an engine guy I would like all the advise I can get.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike Lauritsen
Cleaveland <http://www.cleavelandtool.com/> Aircraft Tool
2225 First St.
Boone, Iowa 50036
515-432-6794
mike@cleavelandtool.com
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| Subject: | RV-10 Builders in Louisville, KY |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <ibspud@adelphia.net>
I am in Louisville through Sunday and if there are any RV-10 builders nearby, I'd
sure like to visit a project.
Albert Gardner
RV-9A N872RV
RV-10 40-422 working on wings
928-210-9123 cell
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| Subject: | Re: Cylinder advise |
Hi Mike,
try and get some advise from Mahlon on the Lycoming lists. I believe he works for
Mattituck. Decent guy, very knowledgeable.
Marcel
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Lauritsen - Work
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 4:25 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Cylinder advise
I am about to have to purchase some new cylinders for my narrow deck IO-540.
I am going back and forth between Lycoming and ECI. Does anyone have suggestions
one way or another? I have only heard one bad experience with ECI and that
was when they were brand new. I understand that ECIs have a coating on them
that helps prevent rust during the break in period. Not being an engine guy
I would like all the advise I can get.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike Lauritsen
Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
2225 First St.
Boone, Iowa 50036
515-432-6794
mike@cleavelandtool.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cylinder advise |
I just bought six new cylinder assemblies from ECI. They have a five year warrenty
compared to everybody else of two years.
My engine guy here in Lubbock (IA with 35 years experience and runs the largest
maintance facility in West Texas) says that the only time their shop had a problem
with an ECI cylinder they called and ECI shipped them out a new cylinder
assembly by 2nd day air before they even took off the old cylinder assembly and
sent it back.
Best regards,
Russ Daves
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Lauritsen - Work
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 10:25 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Cylinder advise
I am about to have to purchase some new cylinders for my narrow deck IO-540.
I am going back and forth between Lycoming and ECI. Does anyone have suggestions
one way or another? I have only heard one bad experience with ECI and that
was when they were brand new. I understand that ECIs have a coating on them
that helps prevent rust during the break in period. Not being an engine guy
I would like all the advise I can get.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike Lauritsen
Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
2225 First St.
Boone, Iowa 50036
515-432-6794
mike@cleavelandtool.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cylinder advise |
I put a set on my C-310 and had 400 hrs on them and they look as good as new.
I put the original back on when I core exchange for new engines with TCM. I still
have them and will use them on a future plane. I just had my IO-540 ovh by
western skyways and had them put a set on for just that reason of rusting barrels
if not flown regularly. I also had them put in a new ECI cam. My engine
came out of a 1980 Aztec first run. Putting the fuselage to gether now but I'm
coming up on a bunch of annuals so I'll be slowed down for the next two months.
Pat Thyssen A&P IA
Mike Lauritsen - Work <mike@cleavelandtool.com> wrote:
I am about to have to purchase some new cylinders for my narrow deck IO-540. I
am going back and forth between Lycoming and ECI. Does anyone have suggestions
one way or another? I have only heard one bad experience with ECI and that
was when they were brand new. I understand that ECIs have a coating on them
that helps prevent rust during the break in period. Not being an engine guy I
would like all the advise I can get.
Thanks,
Mike
Mike Lauritsen
Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
2225 First St.
Boone, Iowa 50036
515-432-6794
mike@cleavelandtool.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cylinder advise |
Mike,
Where did you get your core? Starting the search for an engine myself and
wondered about the salvage yards as a source.
John Hasbrouck
#40264
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The rebuilder has all the paperwork but if I recall it was Air-Tec in
Florida and his name was Dick. A customer and fellow RV-10 builder in
California turned me on to this one. Mine is a C4B5 off of an Aztec. I
would think with all the hurricanes now would be a good time to find one.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hasbrouck
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cylinder advise
Mike,
Where did you get your core? Starting the search for an engine myself
and wondered about the salvage yards as a source.
John Hasbrouck
#40264
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Just got the sample 4 point harness with inertial reels for the RV10. We
have been through two iterations getting the lengths/adjustments correct.
There will be two sizes: regular and large. Regulars will fit backseat
passengers no matter the size. Front seat occupants may require regular or
large (additional 6" adjustment each side in lap belt). My son has not yet
been able to set up the website as my work is done after his paying job.
Soon we hope, particulars, procedures and colors will be available on line.
We are currently evaluationg how to create the hardpoints and structure on a
mounted lid without the interior mess.
Question: Any suggestions on whether builders would like to inspect the
sample. If so any suggestions on how to ship between builders at minimum
cost and still track location are appreciated. Ideally I could ship it once
to a builder who would ship it onward to another builder and eventually the
sample would make its way back to me.
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| Subject: | Re: Cylinder advise |
I bought my IO-540 engine core from Chris Baker at Premium Aircraft Parts, LLC,
1109 S. Quincy, Ft. Smith, AR. 72901, fax 1-800-889-9047. Paid $10,500.00 in
August of 2003.
Word of caution, make sure you get it in writing on the invoice that the crankshaft
is guaranteed to overhaul (yellow tag/FAA form 8130-3) or replacement will
be supplied at no additional cost. Also go pick up the engine and don't tell
Chris or anyone from Premium break the engine case for you or remove the cylinders.
You will want to buy the engine in it's fully assembled condition just
like it was received by Premium.
It is a lot easier to look at a fully assembled engine and tell you are getting
it all instead of having parts thrown in a box and someone claiming that all
the parts are there.
I recently had to get together an unassembled engine that a buddy of mine had apart
when he died and I spent months trying to go through boxes to identify what
parts were there and what wasn't.
Best regards,
Russ Daves
N710RV (Reserved RV-10 fuselage on main gear)
N65RV RV-6A Sold
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hasbrouck
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cylinder advise
Mike,
Where did you get your core? Starting the search for an engine myself and
wondered about the salvage yards as a source.
John Hasbrouck
#40264
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| Subject: | Re: Cylinder advise |
For what it's worth, I considered the same route.
However, after considering the options, and pros and cons of the rebuild
route, to include total price, I decided to go with a brand new engine (mine is
coming from aerosport power).
My rationale?
If I don't know the life history of the core, and I'm building a brand new
RV-10, why would I put an unknown engine on the front end of a brand new
airplane I'm spending so much time and money building that didn't give me the best
sense of security?
Others may disagree, but the choice is obviously yours.
Grumpy #40404
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