---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/14/05: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:12 AM - Comments... (Matt Dralle) 2. 06:30 AM - Spinner trimming. (Doerr, Ray R [NTK]) 3. 09:54 AM - Re: Spinner trimming. (Tim Olson) 4. 10:44 AM - Re: Spinner trimming. (LessDragProd@aol.com) 5. 11:18 AM - Silicon for Al (Sam Marlow) 6. 02:21 PM - 5/8" holes in the F-1011 (John Jessen) 7. 03:45 PM - Re: 5/8" holes in the F-1011 (Rick) 8. 04:10 PM - Re: Re: Carrying Long Items (Randy DeBauw) 9. 04:15 PM - Re: Re: Carrying Long Items (Randy DeBauw) 10. 04:17 PM - Re: Holes vs Noise vs ventilation question (Randy DeBauw) 11. 09:48 PM - Wing Root Fairing - error in the plans? 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Richard T. ==================== What Listers Are Saying - Vol II ==================== Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:02 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Spinner trimming. From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" I have the spinner trimmed enought where I am able to install it on the prop. I have all the holes to secure it drilled and nutplates installed. Does anyone have any good way to get the prop to rotate through it's pitch range so I can finish the trimming of the prop openings in the spinner? Thanks Ray Doerr ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:15 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spinner trimming. --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson I think the Van's plan is to clamp a couple of boards around the blade and make a lever that you can twist. I myself was able to use a Sears Strap wrench (rubber strap that goes around the prop and as a handle on it) and put a pad under the wrench on the prop surface. Anything that you can grip it with to turn it, with about a 12" or more lever length should work. Just clamp it with a big vice grips. ;) (JUST KIDDING) One other tip: This is something that will be MUCH better done if you attach the prop to the engine. It's too hard to hold the prop steady while you twist with that much force. Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote: > I have the spinner trimmed enought where I am able to install it on > the prop. I have all the holes to secure it drilled and nutplates > installed. Does anyone have any good way to get the prop to rotate > through it's pitch range so I can finish the trimming of the prop > openings in the spinner? > > > Thanks Ray Doerr ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:44 AM PST US From: LessDragProd@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spinner trimming. Hi All, I can't pass on this one. The MT propeller already has the spinner installed at the factory to match your cowl. When you get the propeller assembly, just bolt it on the engine. Best regards, Jim Ayers In a message dated 11/14/2005 9:57:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, Tim@MyRV10.com writes: --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson I think the Van's plan is to clamp a couple of boards around the blade and make a lever that you can twist. I myself was able to use a Sears Strap wrench (rubber strap that goes around the prop and as a handle on it) and put a pad under the wrench on the prop surface. Anything that you can grip it with to turn it, with about a 12" or more lever length should work. Just clamp it with a big vice grips. ;) (JUST KIDDING) One other tip: This is something that will be MUCH better done if you attach the prop to the engine. It's too hard to hold the prop steady while you twist with that much force. Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote: > I have the spinner trimmed enought where I am able to install it on > the prop. I have all the holes to secure it drilled and nutplates > installed. Does anyone have any good way to get the prop to rotate > through it's pitch range so I can finish the trimming of the prop > openings in the spinner? > > > Thanks Ray Doerr ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:34 AM PST US From: Sam Marlow Subject: RV10-List: Silicon for Al I know it's been discussed before, but could someone tell me where to buy the special silicon or RTV not corrosive to Aluminum? Thanks, Sam Marlow Fuse Tim Olson wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > I think the Van's plan is to clamp a couple of boards around the blade > and make a lever that you can twist. I myself was able to use > a Sears Strap wrench (rubber strap that goes around the prop and as > a handle on it) and put a pad under the wrench on the prop surface. > Anything that you can grip it with to turn it, with about a 12" or > more lever length should work. Just clamp it with a big vice grips. ;) > (JUST KIDDING) > > One other tip: This is something that will be MUCH better done if you > attach the prop to the engine. It's too hard to hold the prop steady > while you twist with that much force. > > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 > > > Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote: > >> I have the spinner trimmed enought where I am able to install it on >> the prop. I have all the holes to secure it drilled and nutplates >> installed. Does anyone have any good way to get the prop to rotate >> through it's pitch range so I can finish the trimming of the prop >> openings in the spinner? >> >> >> Thanks Ray Doerr > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:39 PM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RV10-List: 5/8" holes in the F-1011 What, pray tell, are the two 5/8" holes used for that one drills to size just above the F-1011E Rudder Cable Angle? (Page 10-3) I've looked ahead but I cannot find anything going through there. The implication is that the rudder cables go through there, but I don't see that. Reason for the question is that I sneezed while drilling out one of them, and it ended up 1/16" too big. Is there a snap bushing that goes in there? The other one is fine. John Jessen -328 EmpCone ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:59 PM PST US From: Rick Subject: Re: RV10-List: 5/8" holes in the F-1011 DNA: do not archive Its-Bogus: do not forward to list - No Plain-Text Section --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:00 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: Carrying Long Items From: "Randy DeBauw" I have mounted it on the rear bulkhead with the remote fill on the forward side. The bottle weights about 8 lbs for a 40CF bottle. I used only 600 lbs all the way to Osh and back. Mt high system. Call me for info if you want. Randy 800-547-1522 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Pierce Subject: RV10-List: RE: Carrying Long Items I've been considering putting a door in the rear bulkhead and putting oxygen bottles behind it, possibly one on each side of the battery for balance. Is that something anyone else has considered? Some of the composite O2 bottles are pretty light weight. Roger Pierce Bakersfield, CA QB Wings ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:15:52 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: Carrying Long Items From: "Randy DeBauw" --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" I didn't have my camera when the install happened. sorry -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Ochs Subject: Re: RV10-List: RE: Carrying Long Items --> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs Randy has done pretty much exactly that in 610RV (#40400). He's got the Mountain High system with one large bottle attached to the backside of the bulkhead at the rear of the baggage area. I don't see any pictures of his setup on his site (yeah, I'm probably just too lazy to have found them) but I fully intend to plagarize his setup when I get to that point. It's a very very very clean install of the oxygen system... Randy, do you have some pics of that setup for the rest of us? ;) James Roger Pierce wrote: > I've been considering putting a door in the rear bulkhead and putting > oxygen bottles behind it, possibly one on each side of the battery for > balance. Is that something anyone else has considered? Some of the > composite O2 bottles are pretty light weight. > > Roger Pierce > Bakersfield, CA > QB Wings ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:17:33 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Holes vs Noise vs ventilation question From: "Randy DeBauw" --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" I didn't fill them. They seem to just let the air out as fresh air is coming in through the vents. Randy -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil White Subject: RV10-List: Holes vs Noise vs ventilation question --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phil White" I am working on the last half of the fuse, and notice that there are quite a few places where there are holes or gaps in either the outside skin or between cabin and empennage. Just put the baggage door on, and see a 1/4" by 1 inch gap where the longeron meets the door frame. Noticed that the rear baggage bulkhead has V stiffening corrugations, which form triangular openings between cabin and the rear of the plane which is fairly open to low pressure areas outside it. The bottom skin where cabin meets tail has several 1/8" gaps in the corners. Are these gaps something I need to seal to have a quiet plane at 200 mph? Or are some openings desirable to allow ventilation and heating air to exit the cabin so new can enter? Should openings be limited to one, especially designed to give quiet air passage? If they should be sealed, what are you using? Foam rubber, glop, tape? What have you learned from flying one; Randy, Jesse, others? Phil #40220 in IL (fuse floors) ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:48:46 PM PST US From: "DejaVu" Subject: RV10-List: Wing Root Fairing - error in the plans? Chapter 44 shows all wing root fairing screw holes being dimpled. Some of these screws attach the fairing to the wing tank attach brackets which are not dimpled, per plans. Has anyone found this? Looks like the surface on the attach bracket is thick enough to countersink eventhough K1000-08 were used. Anh #141