RV10-List Digest Archive

Tue 11/15/05


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:05 AM - Re: 5/8" holes in the F-1011 (John Jessen)
     2. 03:57 AM - Re: Wing Root Fairing - error in the plans? (Tim Olson)
     3. 06:36 PM - V speeds for an RV-10 (Dan Charrois)
     4. 06:59 PM - Re: V speeds for an RV-10 (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
     5. 07:14 PM - Re: V speeds for an RV-10 (Rene)
     6. 08:00 PM - Re: V speeds for an RV-10 (Tim Olson)
     7. 08:40 PM - Wingtips (William Curtis)
     8. 08:48 PM - Re: V speeds for an RV-10 (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
     9. 09:53 PM - Re: Harnesses (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:05:28 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: 5/8" holes in the F-1011
    Ah, so. Thanks. do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Subject: Re: RV10-List: 5/8" holes in the F-1011 --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick John, The rudder cables do pass through those holes but you should be OK with the 1/16 additional room. Clamps secure the cable sleeves that go through those holes, no snap bushings. Go to section 38 page 8 of the fuse plans for a close up view. Ask Tim for directions. Rick S. 40185 Fuselage


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    Time: 03:57:32 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Wing Root Fairing - error in the plans?
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Man I sure hope I have this right, but I countersunk them last week...those had that extra spacing shim anyway, so there should be plenty of thickness, right? Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Current section: Engine Hookups DO NOT ARCHIVE DejaVu wrote: > Chapter 44 shows all wing root fairing screw holes being dimpled. Some > of these screws attach the fairing to the wing tank attach brackets > which are not dimpled, per plans. Has anyone found this? Looks like > the surface on the attach bracket is thick enough to countersink > eventhough K1000-08 were used. > Anh > #141


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    Time: 06:36:09 PM PST US
    From: Dan Charrois <danlist@syz.com>
    Subject: V speeds for an RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <danlist@syz.com> Hi everyone. I'm currently building an RV-10, and though I have the general performance numbers on Van's site, am interested in a few more details that I haven't found anywhere. I understand that some of these numbers will vary between different planes/powerplants, etc. (and will be determined when doing my flight tests a couple of years from now), but am hoping that someone with a flying RV-10 with a "factory recommended" IO-540 (or someone who has done more research than I've been able to so far) might be able to help me out. Specifically, I'm looking for reasonable estimates for the following: - best rate of climb speed - best angle of climb speed - stall speed dirty (I suspect this is likely the 63 mph "stall speed" listed on Van's site) - stall speed clean - best glide speed (and typical descent rate when trimmed for best glide at engine idle) - never exceed speed - maximum flaps extended speed - typical approach speed you use Also, I've heard people say that the RV-10 is potentially nose-heavy, but I have no idea how much. I'm curious to try out different loading scenarios to see what I can expect. Does someone have any numbers they can provide for the CG envelope so I can run up some hypothetical weight and balance calculations? Even if you don't know estimates for all of the speeds I'm curious about, any you do know would help a lot. Thanks! Dan -- Syzygy Research & Technology Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada Phone: 780-961-2213


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    Time: 06:59:25 PM PST US
    Subject: V speeds for an RV-10
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Dan, A lot of what you're looking for is supplied in the Finish Kit manual. I am out of town but perhaps somebody else could send you the info. In addition to speeds there's several sample CG scenarios. I'll be back Friday late PM - if you don't have anything by then send me an email offline and I'll get it to you. Bob #40105 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Charrois Subject: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10 --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <danlist@syz.com> Hi everyone. I'm currently building an RV-10, and though I have the general performance numbers on Van's site, am interested in a few more details that I haven't found anywhere. I understand that some of these numbers will vary between different planes/powerplants, etc. (and will be determined when doing my flight tests a couple of years from now), but am hoping that someone with a flying RV-10 with a "factory recommended" IO-540 (or someone who has done more research than I've been able to so far) might be able to help me out. Specifically, I'm looking for reasonable estimates for the following: - best rate of climb speed - best angle of climb speed - stall speed dirty (I suspect this is likely the 63 mph "stall speed" listed on Van's site) - stall speed clean - best glide speed (and typical descent rate when trimmed for best glide at engine idle) - never exceed speed - maximum flaps extended speed - typical approach speed you use Also, I've heard people say that the RV-10 is potentially nose-heavy, but I have no idea how much. I'm curious to try out different loading scenarios to see what I can expect. Does someone have any numbers they can provide for the CG envelope so I can run up some hypothetical weight and balance calculations? Even if you don't know estimates for all of the speeds I'm curious about, any you do know would help a lot. Thanks! Dan -- Syzygy Research & Technology Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada Phone: 780-961-2213


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    Time: 07:14:54 PM PST US
    From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: V speeds for an RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene" <rene@felker.com> You can try the following link. I drummed this up a while ago and have not done any real testing. It does give you an idea of what you can put where. http://hfc.sesincusa.com/hfc/n423cf/n423cf.htm Rene' 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Charrois Subject: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10 --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <danlist@syz.com> Hi everyone. I'm currently building an RV-10, and though I have the general performance numbers on Van's site, am interested in a few more details that I haven't found anywhere. I understand that some of these numbers will vary between different planes/powerplants, etc. (and will be determined when doing my flight tests a couple of years from now), but am hoping that someone with a flying RV-10 with a "factory recommended" IO-540 (or someone who has done more research than I've been able to so far) might be able to help me out. Specifically, I'm looking for reasonable estimates for the following: - best rate of climb speed - best angle of climb speed - stall speed dirty (I suspect this is likely the 63 mph "stall speed" listed on Van's site) - stall speed clean - best glide speed (and typical descent rate when trimmed for best glide at engine idle) - never exceed speed - maximum flaps extended speed - typical approach speed you use Also, I've heard people say that the RV-10 is potentially nose-heavy, but I have no idea how much. I'm curious to try out different loading scenarios to see what I can expect. Does someone have any numbers they can provide for the CG envelope so I can run up some hypothetical weight and balance calculations? Even if you don't know estimates for all of the speeds I'm curious about, any you do know would help a lot. Thanks! Dan -- Syzygy Research & Technology Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada Phone: 780-961-2213


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    Time: 08:00:32 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: V speeds for an RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Dan, I'm sure this isn't 100% of what you need, but it may help. It's the W&B section of the finish kit. http://www.myrv10.com/files/RV10_Weight_and_Balance.pdf Perhaps at least some of your questions can be answered there. I'm not quite that far yet, but in the next 2 or 3 months should have a better picture of it all myself. Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Current section: Engine Hookups DO NOT ARCHIVE Dan Charrois wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <danlist@syz.com> > > Hi everyone. I'm currently building an RV-10, and though I have the > general performance numbers on Van's site, am interested in a few more > details that I haven't found anywhere. I understand that some of these > numbers will vary between different planes/powerplants, etc. (and will > be determined when doing my flight tests a couple of years from now), > but am hoping that someone with a flying RV-10 with a "factory > recommended" IO-540 (or someone who has done more research than I've > been able to so far) might be able to help me out. > > Specifically, I'm looking for reasonable estimates for the following: > > - best rate of climb speed > - best angle of climb speed > - stall speed dirty (I suspect this is likely the 63 mph "stall speed" > listed on Van's site) > - stall speed clean > - best glide speed (and typical descent rate when trimmed for best > glide at engine idle) > - never exceed speed > - maximum flaps extended speed > - typical approach speed you use > > Also, I've heard people say that the RV-10 is potentially nose-heavy, > but I have no idea how much. I'm curious to try out different loading > scenarios to see what I can expect. Does someone have any numbers they > can provide for the CG envelope so I can run up some hypothetical > weight and balance calculations? > > Even if you don't know estimates for all of the speeds I'm curious > about, any you do know would help a lot. > > Thanks! > > Dan > -- > Syzygy Research & Technology > Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada > Phone: 780-961-2213 > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:40:00 PM PST US
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@core.com>
    Subject: Wingtips
    Well it seems that Van's has resolved that problem with the wingtips being the wrong size. I've finally got around to installing the ailerons on the wings and after a preliminary measurement, it looks like it measures exactly. For all those who are not at that stage, if you measure the chord line of the wing tips and it is greater than 56 inches, the you have the old non-fitting tips. I received my wing kit last November so if you received yours after this, you are probably OK. William Curtis 40237 - wings http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/


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    Time: 08:48:39 PM PST US
    Subject: V speeds for an RV-10
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Here's a spreadsheet on weght & Balance, based on the factory weight numbers in the Finish Kit plans: TDT 40025 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Condrey, Bob (US SSA) Subject: RE: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10 --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Dan, A lot of what you're looking for is supplied in the Finish Kit manual. I am out of town but perhaps somebody else could send you the info. In addition to speeds there's several sample CG scenarios. I'll be back Friday late PM - if you don't have anything by then send me an email offline and I'll get it to you. Bob #40105 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Charrois Subject: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10 --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Charrois <danlist@syz.com> Hi everyone. I'm currently building an RV-10, and though I have the general performance numbers on Van's site, am interested in a few more details that I haven't found anywhere. I understand that some of these numbers will vary between different planes/powerplants, etc. (and will be determined when doing my flight tests a couple of years from now), but am hoping that someone with a flying RV-10 with a "factory recommended" IO-540 (or someone who has done more research than I've been able to so far) might be able to help me out. Specifically, I'm looking for reasonable estimates for the following: - best rate of climb speed - best angle of climb speed - stall speed dirty (I suspect this is likely the 63 mph "stall speed" listed on Van's site) - stall speed clean - best glide speed (and typical descent rate when trimmed for best glide at engine idle) - never exceed speed - maximum flaps extended speed - typical approach speed you use Also, I've heard people say that the RV-10 is potentially nose-heavy, but I have no idea how much. I'm curious to try out different loading scenarios to see what I can expect. Does someone have any numbers they can provide for the CG envelope so I can run up some hypothetical weight and balance calculations? Even if you don't know estimates for all of the speeds I'm curious about, any you do know would help a lot. Thanks! Dan -- Syzygy Research & Technology Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada Phone: 780-961-2213


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    Time: 09:53:57 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: Harnesses
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Anyone using seatbelt harnesses other than the ones from Van's? Can you share information about your source, including pricing? TDT 40025 Do not archive




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