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     1. 12:11 AM - Highlight Two (Matt Dralle)
     2. 04:51 AM - Re: Re: Harnesses (Tim Olson)
     3. 05:42 AM - Re: Harnesses (William Curtis)
     4. 02:17 PM - Re: V speeds for an RV-10 (LIKE2LOOP@aol.com)
     5. 02:24 PM - Re: V speeds for an RV-10 (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
     6. 02:42 PM - Re: V speeds for an RV-10 (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
     7. 02:46 PM - Re: V speeds for an RV-10 (Sean Stephens)
     8. 02:46 PM - Re: V speeds for an RV-10 (James Ochs)
     9. 02:54 PM - Re: V speeds for an RV-10 (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
    10. 02:59 PM - Re: V speeds for an RV-10 (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    11. 05:10 PM - Training (Mark Chamberlain)
    12. 05:41 PM - Re: Training (Sean Stephens)
    13. 05:56 PM - Re: Training (James Hein)
    14. 08:28 PM - Re: V speeds for an RV-10 (Tim Olson)
    15. 09:35 PM - Re: Training (DejaVu)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: RE: Harnesses | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
      
      I got mine from Hooker Harness.  I just asked for some exactly like
      Randy's and they wrote me the order.  I took the knee-banger lug out
      on the rear seats, so they're 4-pointers.  They cost more than
      Van's, but come in more colors and seem very nice.
      
      Tim Olson -- RV-10  #40170
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
      Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
      > Anyone using seatbelt harnesses other than the ones from Van's?  Can you share
      information about your source, including pricing?
      >  
      > TDT
      > 40025
      > Do not archive
      >  
      
      
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      Anyone using seatbelt harnesses other than the ones from Van's? Can you 
      
      
      share information about your source, including pricing?
      
      
      I'm looking at the Amsafe 3 point airbag seatbelt for the front seats. These will
      be pricey at about $1200-2000 per seat but should be worth it. Haven't found
      a reseller that will sell them to kitbuilders, but I have a while yet.
      
      
      http://www.amsafeaviation.com/inflatablega.htm
      
      
      For the rear, Velocity Aicraft sell a 3 point Inertial reel belt for $87/each.
      
      
      
      http://www.velocityaircraft.com/Velocity%20Store/interior_and_upholstery.html
      
      
      William
      40237 - wings
      http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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| Subject:  | Re: V speeds for an RV-10 | 
      
      In a message dated 11/15/2005 11:50:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
      Tdawson@avidyne.com writes:
      Here's a spreadsheet on weght & Balance, based on the factory weight numbers 
      in the Finish Kit plans:
      Please re-send as a XLS file.  Mine came through as an unreadable .dat file???
      
      Steve
      
      
      Stephen G. Blank,DDS
      Port St Lucie, FL 
      
      772-475-5556 cell
      
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| Subject:  | V speeds for an RV-10 | 
      
      Did anyone else have a problem?
      
      
      TDT
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10
      
      
      In a message dated 11/15/2005 11:50:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
      Tdawson@avidyne.com writes:
      
              Here's a spreadsheet on weght & Balance, based on the factory
      weight numbers in the Finish Kit plans:
      
      Please re-send as a XLS file.  Mine came through as an unreadable .dat
      file???
      
      Steve
      
      
      Stephen G. Blank,DDS
      Port St Lucie, FL
      
      772-475-5556 cell
      
      
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| Subject:  | V speeds for an RV-10 | 
      
      Nope - mine came through as a .xls no problem.
      
      Ron
      
      -----Original Message-----
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10
      
      
      Did anyone else have a problem?
      
      
      TDT
      
      Do not archive
      
      
        _____ 
      
      
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10
      
      
      In a message dated 11/15/2005 11:50:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, Tdawson@avidyne.com
      writes:
      
      Here's a spreadsheet on weght & Balance, based on the factory weight numbers in
      the Finish Kit plans:
      
      Please re-send as a XLS file.  Mine came through as an unreadable .dat file???
      
      Steve
      
      
      Stephen G. Blank,DDS
      Port St Lucie, FL
      
      772-475-5556 cell
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: V speeds for an RV-10 | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
      
      Ya, I never got it either.
      
      -Sean
      
      do not archive
      
      Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
      >
      > Did anyone else have a problem?
      >
      >  
      >
      > TDT
      >
      > Do not archive
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      >
      > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of 
      > *LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
      > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:16 PM
      > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10
      >
      >  
      >
      > In a message dated 11/15/2005 11:50:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
      > Tdawson@avidyne.com writes:
      >
      >     Here's a spreadsheet on weght & Balance, based on the factory
      >     weight numbers in the Finish Kit plans:
      >
      > Please re-send as a XLS file.  Mine came through as an unreadable .dat 
      > file???
      >
      > Steve
      >
      >  
      >
      >  
      >
      > Stephen G. Blank,DDS
      > Port St Lucie, FL
      >
      > 772-475-5556 cell
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: V speeds for an RV-10 | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
      
      I got it as a winmail.dat too ;)
      
      double do not archive !
      
      Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
      
      > Did anyone else have a problem?
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      >  
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      > TDT
      >
      > Do not archive
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| Subject:  | Re: V speeds for an RV-10 | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
      
      Came through fine for me.
      
      Bob
      --------------------------
      Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      Subject: RE: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10
      
      Did anyone else have a problem?
      
      
      TDT
      
      Do not archive
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10
      
      
      In a message dated 11/15/2005 11:50:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, Tdawson@avidyne.com
      writes:
      
      Here's a spreadsheet on weght & Balance, based on the factory weight numbers in
      the Finish Kit plans:
      
      Please re-send as a XLS file.  Mine came through as an unreadable .dat file???
      
      Steve
      
      
      Stephen G. Blank,DDS
      Port St Lucie, FL 
      
      772-475-5556 cell
      
      
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| Subject:  | V speeds for an RV-10 | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
      
      
      Tim Olson:
      
      Want to post the XLS file on your web page?  I can re-send it if
      necessary.
      
      TDT
      do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
      
      Ya, I never got it either.
      
      -Sean
      
      do not archive
      
      Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
      >
      > Did anyone else have a problem?
      >
      >  
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      > TDT
      >
      > Do not archive
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      > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of 
      > *LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
      > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:16 PM
      > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10
      >
      >  
      >
      > In a message dated 11/15/2005 11:50:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
      > Tdawson@avidyne.com writes:
      >
      >     Here's a spreadsheet on weght & Balance, based on the factory
      >     weight numbers in the Finish Kit plans:
      >
      > Please re-send as a XLS file.  Mine came through as an unreadable .dat
      
      > file???
      >
      > Steve
      >
      >  
      >
      >  
      >
      > Stephen G. Blank,DDS
      > Port St Lucie, FL
      >
      > 772-475-5556 cell
      >
      
      
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              "Steve Chamberlain" <sdchamberlain@comcast.net>,
              "John Chamberlain" <jdchamberlain1@cox.net>,
              "Dean Birnbaum" <birn@cox.net>
      
      
      Pictures from my RV-10 training up in Oregon last week. Went pretty good except
      for the tendency to flare at 50 FT. Looking forward to posting some pics of my
      first flight....... hopefully some time in Jan!!
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      --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
      
      How much does Van's charge for training?
      
      -Sean #40303
      
      Mark Chamberlain wrote:
      >  
      >
      > Pictures from my RV-10 training up in Oregon last week. Went pretty 
      > good except for the tendency to flare at 50 FT. Looking forward to 
      > posting some pics of my first flight....... hopefully some time in Jan!!
      >
      >
      
      
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      --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
      
      
      At least $34,000....
      
      do not archive
      
      Sean Stephens wrote:
      
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
      >
      > How much does Van's charge for training?
      >
      > -Sean #40303
      >
      > Mark Chamberlain wrote:
      >
      >>  
      >>
      >> Pictures from my RV-10 training up in Oregon last week. Went pretty 
      >> good except for the tendency to flare at 50 FT. Looking forward to 
      >> posting some pics of my first flight....... hopefully some time in Jan!!
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: V speeds for an RV-10 | 
      
      --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
      
      Ok, I have it posted, thanks Tim (TDT).  The file is here for anyone
      that wants it:
      
      http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/TDT/Weight_&_Balance.zip
      or
      http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/TDT/Weight_&_Balance.xls
      
      Choose your format.
      
      
      Tim Olson -- RV-10  #40170
      DO NOT ARCHIVE
      
      
      Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
      > 
      > 
      > Tim Olson:
      > 
      > Want to post the XLS file on your web page?  I can re-send it if
      > necessary.
      > 
      > TDT
      > do not archive
      > 
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
      > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:46 PM
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10
      > 
      > --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
      > 
      > Ya, I never got it either.
      > 
      > -Sean
      > 
      > do not archive
      > 
      > Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
      > 
      >>Did anyone else have a problem?
      >>
      >> 
      >>
      >>TDT
      >>
      >>Do not archive
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      >>*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 
      >>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of 
      >>*LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
      >>*Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2005 5:16 PM
      >>*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
      >>*Subject:* Re: RV10-List: V speeds for an RV-10
      >>
      >> 
      >>
      >>In a message dated 11/15/2005 11:50:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
      >>Tdawson@avidyne.com writes:
      >>
      >>    Here's a spreadsheet on weght & Balance, based on the factory
      >>    weight numbers in the Finish Kit plans:
      >>
      >>Please re-send as a XLS file.  Mine came through as an unreadable .dat
      > 
      > 
      >>file???
      >>
      >>Steve
      >>
      >> 
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      >>
      >>Stephen G. Blank,DDS
      >>Port St Lucie, FL
      >>
      >>772-475-5556 cell
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      Sounds characteristic of RV's and the light controls.  I let the ground effect
      do 50% of the flare in my -6, somewhat unnerving at first.
      Anh
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Mark Chamberlain
        To: Dan Beintema ; Wilmensink@aol.com ; rv10-list@matronics.com ; Steve Chamberlain
      ; John Chamberlain ; Dean Birnbaum
        Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:09 PM
        Subject: RV10-List: Training
      
      
        Pictures from my RV-10 training up in Oregon last week. Went pretty good except
      for the tendency to flare at 50 FT. Looking forward to posting some pics of
      my first flight....... hopefully some time in Jan!! 
 
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