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1. 12:11 AM - Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... (Matt Dralle)
2. 05:08 AM - Re: Wingtips (William)
3. 05:38 AM - Re: 3 black knobs (Millsap, Dennis)
4. 06:03 AM - Fuel lines ( was 3 black knobs ) (John Jessen)
5. 06:04 AM - Re: Re: Wingtips (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 06:23 AM - Static Line (Sam Marlow)
7. 06:48 AM - Re: Fuel lines ( was 3 black knobs ) (linn walters)
8. 07:29 AM - Re: Fuel lines ( was 3 black knobs ) (Kelly McMullen)
9. 10:31 AM - Re: Fuel lines (linn walters)
10. 10:58 AM - Re: Fuel lines (Kelly McMullen)
11. 11:35 AM - RV-10 First Flight (Andrew Barker)
12. 11:48 AM - Re: Fuel lines (linn walters)
13. 12:02 PM - Re: RV-10 First Flight (John Jessen)
14. 12:21 PM - Re: RV-10 First Flight (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
15. 12:46 PM - Re: Static Line (Bob)
16. 12:54 PM - Re: RV-10 First Flight (Rick)
17. 01:13 PM - Re: RV-10 First Flight (Kent Jones)
18. 01:19 PM - Re: RV-10 First Flight (Rhonda Bewley)
19. 01:21 PM - Re: RV-10 First Flight (Kent Jones)
20. 02:51 PM - Re: Harnesses (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
21. 03:57 PM - Re: Static Line (Sean Stephens)
22. 04:24 PM - Fuse Bottom Skins (McGANN, Ron)
23. 04:26 PM - Re: RV-10 First Flight (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
24. 05:04 PM - Re: RV-10 First Flight (Tim Olson)
25. 05:29 PM - HS cradle ()
26. 05:50 PM - Re: Static Line (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
27. 06:27 PM - Re: RV-10 First Flight (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
28. 06:47 PM - Re: Static Line (David McNeill)
29. 07:22 PM - Re: RV-10 First Flight (David McNeill)
30. 08:59 PM - Re: Re: Harnesses (DejaVu)
31. 09:25 PM - Re: Fuse Bottom Skins (Rick)
32. 09:34 PM - Re: Fuse Bottom Skins (McGANN, Ron)
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Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
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This was a bit premature. It seems Van's "fixed" the wingtips a little too well.
Instead of the wingtips being 1/2 inch too long as some have mentioned, mine
are about 1/4 inch too SHORT. Oh well, it should be easier to add 1/4 than
to remove 1/2 inch. Maybe I'll add some winglets:-)
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/07Wings/wings99m.html
> Well it seems that Van's has resolved that problem with the wingtips
> being the wrong size. I've finally got around to installing the
> ailerons on the wings and after a preliminary measurement, it looks
> like it measures exactly. For all those who are not at that stage, if
> you measure the chord line of the wing tips and it is greater than 56
> inches, the you have the old non-fitting tips. I received my wing kit
> last November so if you received yours after this, you are probably OK.
William Curtis
40237 - wings
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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Subject: | Re: 3 black knobs |
Speaking of fuel lines...
I struggled with the aluminum fuel lines in the RV-6A until one day I
had enough. I was taxi testing the plane when ANOTHER fuel leak popped
up in the cockpit! My feet were dangling in a pool of AVGAS. That was
it. I flew into a rage that my wife still finds comical. I took a pair
of dikes and cut the fuel lines out of the cockpit about 6 inches at a
time. I was flinging them with great gusto as I cut each one. All the
while, I was mumbling about the fact that everything has to be difficult
when you're building a plane. After a little cooling down time, I sat
down and pondered the issue a little more lucidly. My question was:
How do they make fuel systems in millions of cars that are nearly bullet
proof? They use EFI rubber hose with simple and cheap clamps. So,
that's what I did. I had to go get different connectors for the tank
and for the fuel valve, but the installation was simple, painless and
after 430+ flight hours, bullet proof! Yes, it weighs more, but I also
don't have leaks in the cockpit anymore. I'll do the same thing in the
RV-10 because I don't like the aluminum tubes or the headaches they
create. FWIW.
Dennis Millsap
N464DM
RV-6A
40112 (RV-10)
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Subject: | Fuel lines ( was 3 black knobs ) |
Nice information. I've often wondered why an alternative wasn't used. If
anyone knows why the solid aluminum lines are usually used, other than
weight, I'd like to hear about it. Also, I've changed the heading to make
it more appropriate to the topic.
John Jessen
-328 (in 3 weeks of buildus interruptus mode)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Millsap, Dennis
Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 black knobs
Speaking of fuel lines.
I struggled with the aluminum fuel lines in the RV-6A until one day I had
enough. I was taxi testing the plane when ANOTHER fuel leak popped up in
the cockpit! My feet were dangling in a pool of AVGAS. That was it. I
flew into a rage that my wife still finds comical. I took a pair of dikes
and cut the fuel lines out of the cockpit about 6 inches at a time. I was
flinging them with great gusto as I cut each one. All the while, I was
mumbling about the fact that everything has to be difficult when you're
building a plane. After a little cooling down time, I sat down and pondered
the issue a little more lucidly. My question was: How do they make fuel
systems in millions of cars that are nearly bullet proof? They use EFI
rubber hose with simple and cheap clamps. So, that's what I did. I had to
go get different connectors for the tank and for the fuel valve, but the
installation was simple, painless and after 430+ flight hours, bullet proof!
Yes, it weighs more, but I also don't have leaks in the cockpit anymore.
I'll do the same thing in the RV-10 because I don't like the aluminum tubes
or the headaches they create. FWIW.
Dennis Millsap
N464DM
RV-6A
40112 (RV-10)
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William,
Put a straight edge along the trailing edge. One of mine was a 1/4"
to short on the inside but even on the out. Nothing's changed, just a
different level of bad workmanship when it comes to the fairings. They
really need to find a different fairing manufacturer or hold him to
higher standards.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Waiting on fuselage
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Wingtips
This was a bit premature. It seems Van's "fixed" the wingtips a little
too well. Instead of the wingtips being 1/2 inch too long as some have
mentioned, mine are about 1/4 inch too SHORT. Oh well, it should be
easier to add 1/4 than to remove 1/2 inch. Maybe I'll add some
winglets:-)
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/07Wings/wings99m.html
> Well it seems that Van's has resolved that problem with the wingtips
> being the wrong size. I've finally got around to installing the
> ailerons on the wings and after a preliminary measurement, it looks
> like it measures exactly. For all those who are not at that stage, if
> you measure the chord line of the wing tips and it is greater than 56
> inches, the you have the old non-fitting tips. I received my wing kit
> last November so if you received yours after this, you are probably
OK.
William Curtis
40237 - wings
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
For you guy's that have already run your static lines from the rear
ports, did you run two separate lines, one from each side to the panel,
or did you use a "T" in the rear of the fuse and use a common line to
the panel? I also have the flush mounted static ports, with a barb for a
connection, that is too large for the 1/4 inch line to attach, any
ideas? I think there Safe-Air flush ports.
Sam
Fuse
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Subject: | Re: Fuel lines ( was 3 black knobs ) |
I can't speak to RV fuel lines, but I've had 'homemade' aluminum fuel
lines in my Pitts for 24 years with no problems. If I think of what
causes metal to crack, it always boils down to temper and vibration. If
the cracking is happening when being flared, then it may be temper or
technique. The technique can be changed, the temper can't. In my
limited experience, cracking during flaring is due to how much tubing is
used for the flare (how much sticks out of the die) or the speed at
which the flare is formed. Slowly cranking the flaring tool allows the
aluminum tube to flow, and the use of a lubricant helps create a flare
on center.
Vibration can be solved with a good propeller dynamic balance and the
use of adel clamps and ty-raps to support the tubing.
sorry I can't be more help, but I hope it gives you something to think
about.
I like solid tubing rather than rubber hose because I don't like the
concept of hose clamps (they lose their 'tightness' as the rubber ages)
and rubber tubing will become brittle over time. I really hate the
little rubber connectors that handle the return oil from the cylinder
heads on lycomings. They're a continuing maintenance headache, and I'd
rather fly than fix.
Linn
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John Jessen wrote:
> Nice information. I've often wondered why an alternative wasn't
> used. If anyone knows why the solid aluminum lines are usually used,
> other than weight, I'd like to hear about it. Also, I've changed the
> heading to make it more appropriate to the topic.
>
> John Jessen
> -328 (in 3 weeks of buildus interruptus mode)
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Millsap, Dennis
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:38 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 black knobs
>
> Speaking of fuel lines...
>
>
>
> I struggled with the aluminum fuel lines in the RV-6A until one day I
> had enough. I was taxi testing the plane when ANOTHER fuel leak
> popped up in the cockpit! My feet were dangling in a pool of AVGAS.
> That was it. I flew into a rage that my wife still finds comical. I
> took a pair of dikes and cut the fuel lines out of the cockpit about 6
> inches at a time. I was flinging them with great gusto as I cut each
> one. All the while, I was mumbling about the fact that everything has
> to be difficult when you're building a plane. After a little cooling
> down time, I sat down and pondered the issue a little more lucidly.
> My question was: How do they make fuel systems in millions of cars
> that are nearly bullet proof? They use EFI rubber hose with simple
> and cheap clamps. So, that's what I did. I had to go get different
> connectors for the tank and for the fuel valve, but the installation
> was simple, painless and after 430+ flight hours, bullet proof! Yes,
> it weighs more, but I also don't have leaks in the cockpit anymore.
> I'll do the same thing in the RV-10 because I don't like the aluminum
> tubes or the headaches they create. FWIW.
>
>
>
> Dennis Millsap
>
> N464DM
>
> RV-6A
>
> 40112 (RV-10)
>
>
>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>
>
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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<4381DE62.4040207@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: | Re: Fuel lines ( was 3 black knobs ) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
The interesting part is that most certified aircraft I have worked on use
a combination, usually about 12" of rubber tubing to connect from the
tanks to aluminum tubing. Perhaps that helps the vibration issues and any
flexing from the wings.
KM
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linn walters said:
> I can't speak to RV fuel lines, but I've had 'homemade' aluminum fuel
> lines in my Pitts for 24 years with no problems.
> I like solid tubing rather than rubber hose because I don't like the
> concept of hose clamps (they lose their 'tightness' as the rubber ages)
> and rubber tubing will become brittle over time. I really hate the
> little rubber connectors that handle the return oil from the cylinder
> heads on lycomings. They're a continuing maintenance headache, and I'd
> rather fly than fix.
> Linn
> do not archive
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Good point. But you won't find rubber coupling fuel lines in the cabin
in a cert'd AC. Dennis replaced his hard (and cracking) aluminum lines
with rubber in the cabin. For him, I guess that's OK. For me, it's not.
Linn
Kelly McMullen wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
>
>The interesting part is that most certified aircraft I have worked on use
>a combination, usually about 12" of rubber tubing to connect from the
>tanks to aluminum tubing. Perhaps that helps the vibration issues and any
>flexing from the wings.
>KM
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>
>linn walters said:
>
>
>>I can't speak to RV fuel lines, but I've had 'homemade' aluminum fuel
>>lines in my Pitts for 24 years with no problems.
>>I like solid tubing rather than rubber hose because I don't like the
>>concept of hose clamps (they lose their 'tightness' as the rubber ages)
>>and rubber tubing will become brittle over time. I really hate the
>>little rubber connectors that handle the return oil from the cylinder
>>heads on lycomings. They're a continuing maintenance headache, and I'd
>>rather fly than fix.
>>Linn
>>do not archive
>>
--
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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<4381DE62.4040207@cfl.rr.com>
<1279.156.42.68.4.1132586938.squirrel@skylane.kjsl.com>
<43821289.8000103@cfl.rr.com>
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
Oh contraire. In Cessnas the line is in the wing root behind the head
liner. In many low wing planes it is behind the royalite at the wing root.
In both cases the fuel and vapors can come right into the cabin. But
because they are covered locations, the rubber hose gets replace maybe
once every 30 years.
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linn walters said:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
>
> Good point. But you won't find rubber coupling fuel lines in the cabin
> in a cert'd AC. Dennis replaced his hard (and cracking) aluminum lines
> with rubber in the cabin. For him, I guess that's OK. For me, it's not.
> Linn
>
>
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Subject: | RV-10 First Flight |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Andrew Barker" <Andrew@trutrakap.com>
Just thought I would drop a note to the list that our RV-10 (N910TS) flew
for the first time on Friday, November 18. What a beautiful machine.
Andrew Barker
General Manager
TruTrak Flight Systems
PH: 479-751-0250 Ext.222
Toll Free: 1-866-TruTrak
www.trutrakap.com
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Thanks Kelly! I learned something. Both my Grumman (AA-1B) and
Traumahawk have solid fuel lines from tanks to engine .... but the vent
lines in the Grumman do have rubber hoses ..... which did come close to
30 years before failure.
Linn
Kelly McMullen wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
>
>Oh contraire. In Cessnas the line is in the wing root behind the head
>liner. In many low wing planes it is behind the royalite at the wing root.
>In both cases the fuel and vapors can come right into the cabin. But
>because they are covered locations, the rubber hose gets replace maybe
>once every 30 years.
>do not archive
>
>linn walters said:
>
>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
>>
>>Good point. But you won't find rubber coupling fuel lines in the cabin
>>in a cert'd AC. Dennis replaced his hard (and cracking) aluminum lines
>>with rubber in the cabin. For him, I guess that's OK. For me, it's not.
>>Linn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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Subject: | RV-10 First Flight |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Congratulations! Any pictures?
John Jessen
-328
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Barker
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 First Flight
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Andrew Barker" <Andrew@trutrakap.com>
Just thought I would drop a note to the list that our RV-10 (N910TS) flew
for the first time on Friday, November 18. What a beautiful machine.
Andrew Barker
General Manager
TruTrak Flight Systems
PH: 479-751-0250 Ext.222
Toll Free: 1-866-TruTrak
www.trutrakap.com
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Subject: | RV-10 First Flight |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com>
Andrew -
Monty got to fly it on Saturday and said it is a magnificent airplane.
Good running engine too (from what I hear.) I told Betty she better
watch out or it will be next on the project list after the Model 12!!
Congratulations to you, Jim and everyone at TruTrak.
Best,
Rhonda and Allen Barrett
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 First Flight
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Congratulations! Any pictures?
John Jessen
-328
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Barker
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 First Flight
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Andrew Barker" <Andrew@trutrakap.com>
Just thought I would drop a note to the list that our RV-10 (N910TS)
flew
for the first time on Friday, November 18. What a beautiful machine.
Andrew Barker
General Manager
TruTrak Flight Systems
PH: 479-751-0250 Ext.222
Toll Free: 1-866-TruTrak
www.trutrakap.com
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob" <bcondrey@cox.net>
The ports from Cleaveland have barbs that go to 1/4" ID Tygon tubing. I
have those and used Tygon from each port to a tee and then transitioned from
Tygon to standard static line.
Bob #40105
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sam Marlow
Subject: RV10-List: Static Line
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
For you guy's that have already run your static lines from the rear
ports, did you run two separate lines, one from each side to the panel,
or did you use a "T" in the rear of the fuse and use a common line to
the panel? I also have the flush mounted static ports, with a barb for a
connection, that is too large for the 1/4 inch line to attach, any
ideas? I think there Safe-Air flush ports.
Sam
Fuse
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Subject: | RV-10 First Flight |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Rhonda,
You wouldn't be a bit biased about the powerplant would ya? ;)
Rick S.
40185
Fuselage
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Subject: | Re: RV-10 First Flight |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Kent Jones <kjones@bost.org>
Andrew,
Congradulations! I am located in Fort Smith, AR and working on QB fuse.
and wings. I also have an engine on order from BPA Engines in Tulsa,
and am very interested in your cowling modification. Also, I am using
your AP and currently have pitch and aileron servos through Stein. I
have visited your shop once.
It would be great now to visit you and N910TS. Any day/time that would
be most convenient before the holidays?
Regards,
Kent C. Jones
SN # 40296
(479) 478-5550 day
(479) 646-9933 evening
Andrew Barker wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Andrew Barker" <Andrew@trutrakap.com>
>
> Just thought I would drop a note to the list that our RV-10 (N910TS)
> flew for the first time on Friday, November 18. What a beautiful
> machine.
>
> Andrew Barker
> General Manager
> TruTrak Flight Systems
> PH: 479-751-0250 Ext.222
> Toll Free: 1-866-TruTrak
> www.trutrakap.com
>
>
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Subject: | RV-10 First Flight |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com>
Biased? . . . possibly.
Proud? . . . . definitely!
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Rhonda
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 First Flight
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Rhonda,
You wouldn't be a bit biased about the powerplant would ya? ;)
Rick S.
40185
Fuselage
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Subject: | Re: RV-10 First Flight |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Kent Jones <kjones@bost.org>
Andrew,
Congratulations! I am located in Fort Smith, AR and working on RV 10 QB
fuse. and wings. Also have on order an engine from BPA Engines in
Tulsa, and very interested in your cowling modification. Is there any
day/time that may be convenient for me to visit you and your N910TS
before January? I have been to your shop once before.
Also, I will be using your AP, and am currently installing your servos
purchased through Stein.
Regards,
Kent C. Jones
Fort Smith, AR
SN# 40296
(479) 478-5550 day
(479) 646-9933 evenings
Andrew Barker wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Andrew Barker" <Andrew@trutrakap.com>
>
> Just thought I would drop a note to the list that our RV-10 (N910TS)
> flew for the first time on Friday, November 18. What a beautiful
> machine.
>
> Andrew Barker
> General Manager
> TruTrak Flight Systems
> PH: 479-751-0250 Ext.222
> Toll Free: 1-866-TruTrak
> www.trutrakap.com
>
>
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Hooker Harness is what is N610RV. They have the sizes. About 550.00 for
the set if I remember. Randy
________________________________
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Dawson-Townsend
Subject: RE: Harnesses
Anyone using seatbelt harnesses other than the ones from Van's? Can you
share information about your source, including pricing?
TDT
40025
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
How have builders fastened the tubing to the barbs on the ports and Ts?
-Sean #40303 (wing top skins, still...)
Bob wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob" <bcondrey@cox.net>
>
> The ports from Cleaveland have barbs that go to 1/4" ID Tygon tubing. I
> have those and used Tygon from each port to a tee and then transitioned from
> Tygon to standard static line.
>
> Bob #40105
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sam Marlow
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:23 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Static Line
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
>
> For you guy's that have already run your static lines from the rear
> ports, did you run two separate lines, one from each side to the panel,
> or did you use a "T" in the rear of the fuse and use a common line to
> the panel? I also have the flush mounted static ports, with a barb for a
> connection, that is too large for the 1/4 inch line to attach, any
> ideas? I think there Safe-Air flush ports.
> Sam
> Fuse
>
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Subject: | Fuse Bottom Skins |
Completed the rib to fuse bulkhead attachment last night and started cleocing the
F-1077 and F-1076 bottom skins to the rib/bulkhead assy. Plans say to flute
the F-1015 ribs but not the F-1018 ribs. When clecoing the skins, the holes
lined up fine on the F-1015, but the 1018s did not go anywhere near matching
the curve of the skins (up to 1/2" misalignment). I was thinking of removing
the skins and fluting the 1018s. However, after clecoing each hole of the 1018
to the 1076 skin, the ribs pulled to the contour of the skin quite nicely and
fluting does not seem necessary.
Did anyone else experience this, or find the need to flute the 1018s?
cheers,
Ron
#187 fuse
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Subject: | Re: RV-10 First Flight |
Which autopilot is in it?
Doug Preston
#40372
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Subject: | Re: RV-10 First Flight |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Probably an S-Tec or Trio, since it's the TruTrak Factory -10. <G> ;)
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
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DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com wrote:
> Which autopilot is in it?
>
> Doug Preston
> #40372
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Hi,this are tips and pictures for the beeginers(like me)its a tip how have a cradle
call for the HS I did with the shipping box,its working perfect,a single
person can handle the complete assy. from one side of the table,.
May be it is not so important ,but I fill to share with the just start dreamers,I
send the same pictures to Van's ,may be he can design the templates in the
cover of the shipp. box ,and help a little more without expenses(and recycling)(no
response) any way here are the pictures ,if any body like the idea I can
follow some mesurments will make work better.
Hugo #40456
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Sean,
Tygon is 1/4" ID and will slip right onto the barbed ends (on the
Cleaveland static ports) and also the tee that they can supply. I then
slipped the 1/4" OD static line into the 1/4" ID Tygon and secured with
a small clamp. I have the tee a few inches above the static port
location on the bulkhead to help keep moisture out. Clamp where the
Tygon joins the regular 1/4" OD static line is probably not necessary
but I plan on minimal trips back that far into the tailcone...
Bob #40105
Finish Kit
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Static Line
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
How have builders fastened the tubing to the barbs on the ports and Ts?
-Sean #40303 (wing top skins, still...)
Bob wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob" <bcondrey@cox.net>
>
> The ports from Cleaveland have barbs that go to 1/4" ID Tygon tubing.
I
> have those and used Tygon from each port to a tee and then
transitioned from
> Tygon to standard static line.
>
> Bob #40105
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sam Marlow
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:23 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Static Line
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
>
> For you guy's that have already run your static lines from the rear
> ports, did you run two separate lines, one from each side to the
panel,
> or did you use a "T" in the rear of the fuse and use a common line to
> the panel? I also have the flush mounted static ports, with a barb for
a
> connection, that is too large for the 1/4 inch line to attach, any
> ideas? I think there Safe-Air flush ports.
> Sam
> Fuse
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: RV-10 First Flight |
I guessed it was aTRUTRAK........which model???
dp
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
There is another alternative which I did not think of until I pulled the air
lines forward. On my Cardinal the static ports were on each side of the
fuselage just forward of the cabin. This will save a lot of grief pulling
air lines through the fuselage. Its also a lot nicer using the aluminum
inserts rather than the blind rivet approach.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Static Line
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)"
> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
> Sean,
>
> Tygon is 1/4" ID and will slip right onto the barbed ends (on the
> Cleaveland static ports) and also the tee that they can supply. I then
> slipped the 1/4" OD static line into the 1/4" ID Tygon and secured with
> a small clamp. I have the tee a few inches above the static port
> location on the bulkhead to help keep moisture out. Clamp where the
> Tygon joins the regular 1/4" OD static line is probably not necessary
> but I plan on minimal trips back that far into the tailcone...
>
> Bob #40105
> Finish Kit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 5:57 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Static Line
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
>
> How have builders fastened the tubing to the barbs on the ports and Ts?
>
> -Sean #40303 (wing top skins, still...)
>
> Bob wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob" <bcondrey@cox.net>
>>
>> The ports from Cleaveland have barbs that go to 1/4" ID Tygon tubing.
> I
>> have those and used Tygon from each port to a tee and then
> transitioned from
>> Tygon to standard static line.
>>
>> Bob #40105
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Sam Marlow
>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:23 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Static Line
>>
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
>>
>> For you guy's that have already run your static lines from the rear
>> ports, did you run two separate lines, one from each side to the
> panel,
>> or did you use a "T" in the rear of the fuse and use a common line to
>> the panel? I also have the flush mounted static ports, with a barb for
> a
>> connection, that is too large for the 1/4 inch line to attach, any
>> ideas? I think there Safe-Air flush ports.
>> Sam
>> Fuse
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>
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>
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Subject: | Re: RV-10 First Flight |
Digiflite VSGV that the promotion item with the Chelton Sport system and they tested
Chelton system with the named AP ( the vertical steering).
----- Original Message -----
From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 First Flight
I guessed it was aTRUTRAK........which model???
dp
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Subject: | Re: RE: Harnesses |
$656 as of last week including 5-points for the rear seats.
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy DeBauw
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 5:49 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RE: Harnesses
Hooker Harness is what is N610RV. They have the sizes. About 550.00 for the
set if I remember. Randy
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:21 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Harnesses
Anyone using seatbelt harnesses other than the ones from Van's? Can you share
information about your source, including pricing?
TDT
40025
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Subject: | Re: Fuse Bottom Skins |
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Subject: | Fuse Bottom Skins |
Thanks Rick - I'll check for bowing of the ribs tonight and will most likely flute
them.
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuse Bottom Skins
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick
Ron,
I would flute them, if you don't, the rib won't remain perpendicular to the bottom
skin and has a tendency to bow outward at the top as it is forced into making
the curve. I had to flute mine to get the holes to line up FWIW.
Rick S.
40185
Fuselage
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