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1. 04:37 AM - Re: HS cradle (Tim Olson)
2. 04:38 AM - Re: HS cradle (Tim Olson)
3. 04:44 AM - Re: 3-lever instructions (Tim Olson)
4. 04:48 AM - RV-10 Calendar Pages ()
5. 04:55 AM - Re: Missing Jim McClow (was HS cradle) (Tim Olson)
6. 05:18 AM - Re: HS cradle (John Jessen)
7. 06:52 AM - RV-10 Calendar Pages ()
8. 07:01 AM - Engine Istall (Nikolaos Napoli)
9. 07:31 AM - Re: RV-10 Calendar Pages (Larry Rosen)
10. 07:48 AM - Re: Engine Istall (Jesse Saint)
11. 08:04 AM - Re: Engine Install (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
12. 09:25 AM - Re: Missing Jim McClow (was HS cradle) (Rick)
13. 09:30 AM - Re: Engine Istall (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
14. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Calendar Pages ()
15. 09:52 AM - Re: RV-10 Calendar Pages (Tim Olson)
16. 09:55 AM - Re: Re: Piper Aztec Engine ()
17. 10:00 AM - Re: Engine Install (Nikolaos Napoli)
18. 10:15 AM - Re: RV-10 Calendar Pages (Dj Merrill)
19. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Calendar Pages ()
20. 10:43 AM - Re: Re: Piper Aztec Engine (Phillips, Jack)
21. 11:40 AM - Throttle Cable Throw (Tim Olson)
22. 12:11 PM - Re: Throttle Cable Throw (Tim Olson)
23. 04:59 PM - Re: Throttle Cable Throw (Gary Specketer)
24. 05:58 PM - What We Are Thankful For... (Matt Dralle)
25. 07:14 PM - Rivet/Edge Spacing F-1046 to F1005E ()
26. 07:42 PM - Re: Throttle Cable Throw (Tim Olson)
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Hugo, This cradle was such a good idea I added it to the Tips area on my
site. Thanks for this great contribution!
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current section: Engine Hookups
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gommone7@bellsouth.net wrote:
> Hi,this are tips and pictures for the beeginers(like me)its a tip how have a
cradle call for the HS I did with the shipping box,its working perfect,a single
person can handle the complete assy. from one side of the table,.
> May be it is not so important ,but I fill to share with the just start dreamers,I
send the same pictures to Van's ,may be he can design the templates in the
cover of the shipp. box ,and help a little more without expenses(and recycling)(no
response) any way here are the pictures ,if any body like the idea I can
follow some mesurments will make work better.
> Hugo #40456
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Did anybody notice Steve's builder number??? 40499. Anyone out there
have one higher yet?? Man the've sold a lot of -10 kits!
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current section: Engine Hookups
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LIKE2LOOP@aol.com wrote:
> Hugo,
>
> Thanks for sending the pictures. My empennage kit should be delivered
> tomorrow and all the tips on this e-mail network are really
> appreciated. After browsing Tim Olsen's site, i feel like i have built
> the plane and made all the mistakes once, so i am ready to go error
> free!!! Well.... i will try. Thanks everyone. Keep sharing
>
> Steve
>
>
> Stephen G. Blank,DDS RV-10 #40499
> Port St Lucie, FL
>
> 772-475-5556 cell
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: 3-lever instructions |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I must have lost that. I won't need any custom, although I can say
that I wish one was about 1/2" longer. If you have the
info though, pass it on and I'll find a place to stick it.
Tim
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John W. Cox wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>
> Tim, just remember that I sent you the information (was back when) on
> the VANS supplier of cables if you need to do a custom cable length.
> The finish of your 3-lever quadrant is being widely anticipated by your
> viewers.
>
> John - KUAO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:33 AM
> To: RV10
> Subject: RV10-List: 3-lever instructions
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Is there anyone who has the 3-lever throttle control
> instructions/plans, that would be willing to either photocopy and
> fax them, or take a hi-res digital photo and email them to me?
> I got the kit a while back in about May, before they had instructions
> ready, but the instructions are now done and I've never
> got them. Just noticed that last night as I was going
> to hook them up and the cable lengths are different.
> Van's has them in 11x17", but they're not sure if they
> have a way to send them to me electronically. If anyone
> could help with that, I'd be greatful.
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| Subject: | RV-10 Calendar Pages |
Sir Tim,
Attached are two new RV-10 calendar pages.
Feel free to post them. Need MORE Rv-10 Pics too!
Later, Jim C
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Actually, Larry's very right about something. You guys give me
so much credit, but hey, if it weren't for other's, I'd never
have all the info that I have. I for one have used other websites
sometimes, like the great Checkoway site, and F1 rocketboy, and
many many others. Just by having a photo to see, it gives great
ideas. James was great for photos. He had probably over 4
million by the time he quit. ;) Many sites though don't spend
too much time giving actual part numbers and things like that, which
is where I hope to add some good info. For some issues, it's
so stinkin' hard to figure out what to use. So really, thank
you all for all of your help. When I finish my -10, I will
really owe it to a lot of others, and I feel compelled to pass
it on by continuing on the list and continuing to add info to
the site and improve on what's there today.
I do have one current project in the waiting....after getting to
the point where the rear seat heat has to get through by
the fuel valve, I decided to completely rework my fuel
lines and valve handle. I won't pass on much info right now to
the list, but within a month I should have it all complete I hope.
The hinge point is going to be how fast my andair order goes out.
If you're on the fuselage, you may want to wait to do your fuel
lines until after the other things are done and you're going to
route your heater line. It gets very tight. What I'm going
to do, should make fuel line installation go much smoother,
and give plenty of clearance for the heater line....at the same
time, it'll keep the fuel lines from being quite as warmed by
the heat. More to come....with part numbers. ;)
Thanks again guys!
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current section: Engine Hookups
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Larry Rosen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> If you have been around long enough you would know that Tim is not the
> king of RV-10 building documentation. It is just about the 1 year
> anniversary of the loss of Jim McClow. His last entry on his web site
> <http://www.mcclowsrv10.com/> is dated 11.27.04. I hope Jim is well. I
> for one miss his rambling commentary.
> Do not archive
>
> Larry Rosen
> 403256
> Attaching the Tail Cone to the Fuse
>
> John Dunne wrote:
>
>> If Tim didnt waste so much time writing the encyclopedia of RV -10
>> building, he couldve had an entire fleet built by now!
>>
>> What really annoys me is that he doesnt have a live cam so I can
>> watch him do it.
>>
>> We could have a Tim Olson class live via internet around the world!
>>
>> ..O.K, everyone watching?.....this goes here like this..
>>
>> My guess is Tim really needs to watch his weight and balance.as there
>> will be so many of us in the back seat!!
>>
>> John
>>
>> 40315 (waiting to copy what Tim does next!)
>>
>> $00.02 (which is worth only $0.146 AUD)
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John W. Cox
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 November 2005 9:10 AM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: HS cradle
>>
>> Steven, now wait a minute ;-) you meant to say Like I have built
>> the plane and avoided almost all of the mistakes Right?
>>
>> Tim has given such a comprehensive review (with incredible time and
>> effort) and posted so many pointers that it goes far beyond what the
>> Customer Service or QC department of VANS has ever done. The big
>> advantage is watching the progress without ear protection, band aids,
>> replacement parts or defective assembly.
>>
>> John - $00.02
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
>> *LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 22, 2005 2:33 PM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: HS cradle
>>
>> Hugo,
>>
>> Thanks for sending the pictures. My empennage kit should be delivered
>> tomorrow and all the tips on this e-mail network are really
>> appreciated. After browsing Tim Olsen's site, i feel like i have built
>> the plane and made all the mistakes once, so i am ready to go error
>> free!!! Well.... i will try. Thanks everyone. Keep sharing
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> Stephen G. Blank,DDS RV-10 #40499
>> Port St Lucie, FL
>>
>> 772-475-5556 cell
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Lots of 10 starter kits.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: HS cradle
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Did anybody notice Steve's builder number??? 40499. Anyone out there
have one higher yet?? Man the've sold a lot of -10 kits!
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current section: Engine Hookups
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LIKE2LOOP@aol.com wrote:
> Hugo,
>
> Thanks for sending the pictures. My empennage kit should be
> delivered tomorrow and all the tips on this e-mail network are really
> appreciated. After browsing Tim Olsen's site, i feel like i have
> built the plane and made all the mistakes once, so i am ready to go error
> free!!! Well.... i will try. Thanks everyone. Keep sharing
>
> Steve
>
>
> Stephen G. Blank,DDS RV-10 #40499
> Port St Lucie, FL
>
> 772-475-5556 cell
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | RV-10 Calendar Pages |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <jim@combsfive.com>
Didn't mean to send the calendar pages to the entire list,
Sorry about that.
Jim Combs
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Could someone tell me at what point in the construction sequence the engine need
to be installed? How much work is left after that?
I am trying to determine exactly when I need to have the engine on hand.
thanks
Niko
40188
Halfway through fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Calendar Pages |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Don't be sorry. Glad to get the post. Printing them out now.
Larry
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jim@CombsFive.Com wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: <jim@combsfive.com>
>
>Didn't mean to send the calendar pages to the entire list,
>
>Sorry about that.
>
>Jim Combs
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Niko,
Where in the build process you mount the engine will determine how much work
is left after that. You can really put it on as soon as you get your gear
on, but it doesn't have to on until everything else is done except the
cowling. Most guys like to get it on, it seems, as soon as they get their
gear on, because otherwise you will have to put some weight on the nose or
prop up the tail to keep it sitting correctly. I think there are a number
of guys who have their engine sitting in the crate in their shop before they
even start on the fuse kit. This is a lot of money to have sitting around,
but the price is going up, so it could be that you could run the TVM numbers
and find that (if you have the money now, of course) it makes more sense to
buy it now and have it sit. On the other hand, there are a couple of places
(like ECIand maybe Superior) who are hoping to come out with their own
version of the IO-540 experimental soon, which should come in well below the
price of the new Lycoming experimentals. If you are hoping to put on an
Innodyn turbine, you should probably just put it in your will and go on with
life in the non-RV slow lane.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org/>
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nikolaos Napoli
Subject: RV10-List: Engine Istall
Could someone tell me at what point in the construction sequence the engine
need to be installed? How much work is left after that?
I am trying to determine exactly when I need to have the engine on hand.
thanks
Niko
40188
Halfway through fuselage
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As a "Wannabe" RV-10 builder, I'm beginning to acquire components which
will be needed during the building process (I intend to start building
next winter - I promised my fiancee I wouldn't build another airplane
for at least a year after I finished my Pietenpol). A friend who is
building an F-1 Rocket has just gotten a line on an Aztec that was
damaged in one of this summer's hurricanes (hangar fell in on it), and
only needs one of the IO-540's on it. I'm not sure which engines the
Aztec had, and I don't know for sure which version of the O-540 Van
chose for the RV-10. Can someone tell me which version of the O-540 is
the preferred one for the RV-10, and what production aircraft used that
version?
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine Istall
Niko,
Where in the build process you mount the engine will determine how much
work is left after that. You can really put it on as soon as you get
your gear on, but it doesn't have to on until everything else is done
except the cowling. Most guys like to get it on, it seems, as soon as
they get their gear on, because otherwise you will have to put some
weight on the nose or prop up the tail to keep it sitting correctly. I
think there are a number of guys who have their engine sitting in the
crate in their shop before they even start on the fuse kit. This is a
lot of money to have sitting around, but the price is going up, so it
could be that you could run the TVM numbers and find that (if you have
the money now, of course) it makes more sense to buy it now and have it
sit. On the other hand, there are a couple of places (like ECIand maybe
Superior) who are hoping to come out with their own version of the
IO-540 experimental soon, which should come in well below the price of
the new Lycoming experimentals. If you are hoping to put on an Innodyn
turbine, you should probably just put it in your will and go on with
life in the non-RV slow lane.
Jesse Saint
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
I mis Jamse very much to!
Thiz the time of yer thet he would always give use a guud famuly story to cheer
us up and rant about how he couldnt weight to get his plane finished.....All
kidding aside..I have to admit he saved me a mistake or three...you could count
on James to make it first and then let everyone right away know to watch out
for it. Good guy, hope he is well.
Rick S.
40185
Fuselage
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If you buy an assembled engine and plan on having it sit for a long
period of time, there are some things you should consider. Most
pickling oil is good for six months. Afterwards, the engine needs to be
rotated and cylinders refogged to help combat corrosion. If this is not
done, the cylinders can corrode, and although the engine will still have
good compressions, it will use more oil. It is better to not accept
delivery of your engine if you are not within a 6-8 month window for
installation.
Rhonda
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine Istall
Niko,
Where in the build process you mount the engine will determine how much
work is left after that. You can really put it on as soon as you get
your gear on, but it doesn't have to on until everything else is done
except the cowling. Most guys like to get it on, it seems, as soon as
they get their gear on, because otherwise you will have to put some
weight on the nose or prop up the tail to keep it sitting correctly. I
think there are a number of guys who have their engine sitting in the
crate in their shop before they even start on the fuse kit. This is a
lot of money to have sitting around, but the price is going up, so it
could be that you could run the TVM numbers and find that (if you have
the money now, of course) it makes more sense to buy it now and have it
sit. On the other hand, there are a couple of places (like ECIand maybe
Superior) who are hoping to come out with their own version of the
IO-540 experimental soon, which should come in well below the price of
the new Lycoming experimentals. If you are hoping to put on an Innodyn
turbine, you should probably just put it in your will and go on with
life in the non-RV slow lane.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org/>
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nikolaos
Napoli
Subject: RV10-List: Engine Istall
Could someone tell me at what point in the construction sequence the
engine need to be installed? How much work is left after that?
I am trying to determine exactly when I need to have the engine on hand.
thanks
Niko
40188
Halfway through fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Calendar Pages |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <jim@combsfive.com>
There are people who use dial up and wish not to have large attachments.
So for their sake, I usually send it to Tim and allow him to post it to his web
site and then others can get it if they wish.
I was not paying attention this morning.
Jim Combs
N40192
Fuselage
N312F Reserved
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From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Calendar Pages
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Don't be sorry. Glad to get the post. Printing them out now.
Larry
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jim@CombsFive.Com wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: <jim@combsfive.com>
>
>Didn't mean to send the calendar pages to the entire list,
>
>Sorry about that.
>
>Jim Combs
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Calendar Pages |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
OK, they're posted in the photos area, and we'll just keep updating it
as we go.
See the link at the bottom of the page:
http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/index.html
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current section: Engine Hookups
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jim@combsfive.com wrote:
> Sir Tim,
>
> Attached are two new RV-10 calendar pages.
>
> Feel free to post them. Need MORE Rv-10 Pics too!
>
> Later, Jim C
>
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| Subject: | Re: Piper Aztec Engine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <jim@combsfive.com>
I too am looking at a Piper Aztec engine. From what I can tell, they used an O-540-B1A5
(235 HP @ 2575 RPM) in some models and TIO-540-C1A (250 HP) in others.
Van used an IO-540-D4A5 (260 HP @ 2700 RPM).
I don't know yet if the Piper O engine can be used "as is"
Still doing research on that.
Jim Combs
40192
N312F
Fuselage
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Jack,
There is a file I had found on the Lycoming site that listed their engine designation
and what aircraft they went into. I believe it was a file that had engine
prices on it. As far as which engine for the RV10, look at the two models
that Vans is selling on their web site. Thats the starting point, although
I believe other models will also fit in.
Niko
"Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> wrote:
As a Wannabe RV-10 builder, Im beginning to acquire components
which will be needed during the building process (I intend to start building next
winter I promised my fiancee I wouldnt build another airplane for at least
a year after I finished my Pietenpol). A friend who is building an F-1 Rocket
has just gotten a line on an Aztec that was damaged in one of this summers
hurricanes (hangar fell in on it), and only needs one of the IO-540s on it. Im
not sure which engines the Aztec had, and I dont know for sure which version
of the O-540 Van chose for the RV-10. Can someone tell me which version of the
O-540 is the preferred one for the RV-10, and what production aircraft used
that version?
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine Istall
Niko,
Where in the build process you mount the engine will determine how much work
is left after that. You can really put it on as soon as you get your gear on,
but it doesnt have to on until everything else is done except the cowling. Most
guys like to get it on, it seems, as soon as they get their gear on, because
otherwise you will have to put some weight on the nose or prop up the tail
to keep it sitting correctly. I think there are a number of guys who have their
engine sitting in the crate in their shop before they even start on the fuse
kit. This is a lot of money to have sitting around, but the price is going
up, so it could be that you could run the TVM numbers and find that (if you have
the money now, of course) it makes more sense to buy it now and have it sit.
On the other hand, there are a couple of places (like ECIand maybe Superior)
who are hoping to come out with their own version of the IO-540 experimental
soon, which should come in well below the price of
the new
Lycoming experimentals. If you are hoping to put on an Innodyn turbine, you should
probably just put it in your will and go on with life in the non-RV slow
lane.
Jesse Saint
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Calendar Pages |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
jim@combsfive.com wrote:
> There are people who use dial up and wish not to have large attachments.
People still use dial-up? *wink*
-Dj
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Calendar Pages |
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Thanks,
Jim C
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| Subject: | Piper Aztec Engine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Thanks, Jim and Niko.
I expect this list will be as useful when building the -10 as the
Pietenpol list was when building that airplane.
I'll probably do the same thing for an engine I did on that plane - buy
a run-out "core" and rebuild it myself. I built the engine on the Piet
and it is absolutely the smoothest running A65 Continental I've ever
flown behind. Flying it to OSH (37 hours of flying, round trip) it only
burned 1-1/2 quarts of oil. Should be able to do the same with an O-540
- just takes more money. Maybe I can build the engine this winter. I
promised my fiancee I wouldn't build another airplane for at least a
year, but made no mention of building an engine.
Jack Phillips
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jim@CombsFive.Com
Subject: Re: RE: RV10-List: Piper Aztec Engine
--> RV10-List message posted by: <jim@combsfive.com>
I too am looking at a Piper Aztec engine. From what I can tell, they
used an O-540-B1A5 (235 HP @ 2575 RPM) in some models and TIO-540-C1A
(250 HP) in others.
Van used an IO-540-D4A5 (260 HP @ 2700 RPM).
I don't know yet if the Piper O engine can be used "as is"
Still doing research on that.
Jim Combs
40192
N312F
Fuselage
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| Subject: | Throttle Cable Throw |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just sent the below to Van's. Perhaps the list has some input
though.
---------------
I just am finishing up hooking up the Throttle/Prop/Mixture cables
today. All went well except the throttle. The Throttle cable
doesn't have enough throw to it. If I set the full-throttle position
to move the fuel injection throttle arm to the full position, I can't
pull the lever back to minimum idle...the quadrant still has a ways
it can pull back. If I disconnect the quadrant end of the cable, I can
still move the quadrant lever back, so the quadrant's throw is fine,
but I can't pull the cable back because there's not enough throw
built into the cable itself.
Have you had this issue before? What's the fix, a different cable?
The cable that I have is the Tuthill/Cablecraft 184V77-2- 45 1/2"
Tim
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Current section: Engine Hookups
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle Cable Throw |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I should have also included, the total travel available is
1.93" within the cable, if you disconnect both ends.
Tim
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I just sent the below to Van's. Perhaps the list has some input
> though.
>
> ---------------
> I just am finishing up hooking up the Throttle/Prop/Mixture cables
> today. All went well except the throttle. The Throttle cable
> doesn't have enough throw to it. If I set the full-throttle position
> to move the fuel injection throttle arm to the full position, I can't
> pull the lever back to minimum idle...the quadrant still has a ways
> it can pull back. If I disconnect the quadrant end of the cable, I can
> still move the quadrant lever back, so the quadrant's throw is fine,
> but I can't pull the cable back because there's not enough throw
> built into the cable itself.
>
> Have you had this issue before? What's the fix, a different cable?
> The cable that I have is the Tuthill/Cablecraft 184V77-2- 45 1/2"
>
> Tim
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| Subject: | Throttle Cable Throw |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
There are different length arms available for the injector body. I had to
change mine to the long one on the Glasair I built.
Gary Specketer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Throttle Cable Throw
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just sent the below to Van's. Perhaps the list has some input though.
---------------
I just am finishing up hooking up the Throttle/Prop/Mixture cables today.
All went well except the throttle. The Throttle cable doesn't have enough
throw to it. If I set the full-throttle position to move the fuel injection
throttle arm to the full position, I can't pull the lever back to minimum
idle...the quadrant still has a ways it can pull back. If I disconnect the
quadrant end of the cable, I can still move the quadrant lever back, so the
quadrant's throw is fine, but I can't pull the cable back because there's
not enough throw built into the cable itself.
Have you had this issue before? What's the fix, a different cable? The
cable that I have is the Tuthill/Cablecraft 184V77-2- 45 1/2"
Tim
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Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current section: Engine Hookups
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| Subject: | Rivet/Edge Spacing F-1046 to F1005E |
On sheet 29-9, step three it has you clamp the F-1070, 1046, and 1005E
together as show in figure 2 and then match drill. When I did that, the
holes on the 1046 do not have the proper edge spacing (2d). I am going out
to look again, but I don't think I made a mistake earlier in assembling the
1005c and 1005e. Is that the way it is supposed to be?
T. Rene' Felker
40322
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle Cable Throw |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I thought about drilling another hole in the arm, but here's another
addition to the dilema. The throttle lever will then still not
go fully forward and backward in the quadrant like it is supposed to.
Sure, it's kind of cosmetic, but it means something to me.
Late today I got the following reply...remember that my throw was 1.93"
-----
I measured several cables at random and they all have more than
2" travel. Somewhere in the area of 2 3/16" give or take a little. I
don't know why yours is short.
-----
That was it....so, now I can tell that most cables should be perfect
for me. I figure I'm about 1/4" short on travel. Now I just have
to see if they're going to get an A, B, C, D, or F on customer service
on this one. They got a A for the engine mount rework, and for
getting me the quadrant plans. Hopefully they'll come through this
time. I did write back and ask if I could send mine in and get one
with the proper travel.
Thanks guys, for the ideas though. If all else fails, I've decided
not to drill my arm, but to contact the manufacturer and see if they'll
deal with it if Van's doesn't.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current section: Engine Hookups
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David McNeill wrote:
> Have you considered drilling an additional hole on the injection servo
> actuation arm closer to the pivot point. That way less movement at the
> quadrant will result in more movement at the servo. I think the standard
> movement of those Tuthill cables is about 3.125". Will be interested in
> Van's point of view.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: "RV10" <RV10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:39 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Throttle Cable Throw
>
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> I just sent the below to Van's. Perhaps the list has some input
>> though.
>>
>> ---------------
>> I just am finishing up hooking up the Throttle/Prop/Mixture cables
>> today. All went well except the throttle. The Throttle cable
>> doesn't have enough throw to it. If I set the full-throttle position
>> to move the fuel injection throttle arm to the full position, I can't
>> pull the lever back to minimum idle...the quadrant still has a ways
>> it can pull back. If I disconnect the quadrant end of the cable, I can
>> still move the quadrant lever back, so the quadrant's throw is fine,
>> but I can't pull the cable back because there's not enough throw
>> built into the cable itself.
>>
>> Have you had this issue before? What's the fix, a different cable?
>> The cable that I have is the Tuthill/Cablecraft 184V77-2- 45 1/2"
>>
>> Tim
>> --
>>
>> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
>> Current section: Engine Hookups
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