Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 05:00 AM - Fuselage rotiserie ()
2. 06:01 AM - Why is there a screw in the 6" bottom hinge of the bottom cowl? (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
3. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Piper Aztec Engine (Jesse Saint)
4. 09:37 AM - Re: Fuselage rotiserie (Jesse Saint)
5. 03:38 PM - Section 28 Fwd and Center Fuselage Attach Bolts (Nikolaos Napoli)
6. 04:10 PM - Re: Section 28 Fwd and Center Fuselage Attach Bolts (Ted on RV list)
7. 04:16 PM - Re: Section 28 Fwd and Center Fuselage Attach Bolts ()
8. 04:31 PM - Re: Why is there a screw in the 6" bottom hinge of the (Tim Olson)
9. 04:33 PM - Re: Section 28 Fwd and Center Fuselage Attach Bolts (JOHN STARN)
10. 04:40 PM - Re: B&C oil filter (Gary Specketer)
11. 06:19 PM - Re: Re: B&C oil filter (Tim Olson)
12. 07:50 PM - Re: Fuselage rotiserie (Jeff Dalton)
13. 08:08 PM - Re: Re: B&C oil filter (Tim Olson)
14. 09:27 PM - Re: Re: B&C oil filter (Sean Blair)
Message 1
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Fuselage rotiserie |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <bakerocb@cox.net>
11/25/2005
Hello Chris, A very common technique among composite builders is to support
the aft fuselage with a sling or cradle arrangement consisting of a nylon
strap supported by a 2 x 4 and 3/4 inch thick plywood frame work.
Assembling the frame work with dry wall screws is easy and permits
disassembly and recycling the components.
OC
Time: 08:42:04 AM PST US
From: "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Fuselage rotiserie
When I built my RV 8 quickbuild fuselage, I built a rotisserie and mounted
the
fuselage, using the engine mount holes, and the VS mount structure to
support
the assembly. This system was a life saver, as my bad back won't allow me to
bend over the fuselage to work for hours on end. I am studying the various
photos
of the RV10, and am trying to fiqure how to mount the QB 10 fuselage onto
a similar rotisserie. Has anyone build such a fixture for the 10, and what
did
they attach the aft end to? I don't want to mount the fuselage to the
tailcone,
until I'm ready to put it on the gear, as I would create a storage problem,
due to the length of that whole assembly. My QB fuselage is scheduled to
arrive
next week, so anyone with ideas? Chris Hukill
deburring tailcone
Message 2
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Why is there a screw in the 6" bottom hinge of the bottom cowl? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
I'm working on the cowl and notice that the inboard hole of the
6" hinge for the bottom cowl is drilled #27 for a screw. Does anyone
know why this is? There is a screw hole on the side of the scoop to
secure the hinge pin, but why the one in the hinge itself?
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
Message 3
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Piper Aztec Engine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
We have an engine off an Aztec, I think it is a C4B5 IO-540. We had to buy
new engine mount ears to fit the Van's engine mount, which cost $400 or so.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim@CombsFive.Com
Subject: Re: RE: RV10-List: Piper Aztec Engine
--> RV10-List message posted by: <jim@combsfive.com>
I too am looking at a Piper Aztec engine. From what I can tell, they used
an O-540-B1A5 (235 HP @ 2575 RPM) in some models and TIO-540-C1A (250 HP) in
others.
Van used an IO-540-D4A5 (260 HP @ 2700 RPM).
I don't know yet if the Piper O engine can be used "as is"
Still doing research on that.
Jim Combs
40192
N312F
Fuselage
Message 4
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Fuselage rotiserie |
Please see the attached pictures. If they don't go through, I will try to
send them another way.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org/>
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill
Subject: RV10-List: Fuselage rotiserie
When I built my RV 8 quickbuild fuselage, I built a rotisserie and mounted
the fuselage, using the engine mount holes, and the VS mount structure to
support the assembly. This system was a life saver, as my bad back won't
allow me to bend over the fuselage to work for hours on end. I am studying
the various photos of the RV10, and am trying to fiqure how to mount the QB
10 fuselage onto a similar rotisserie. Has anyone build such a fixture for
the 10, and what did they attach the aft end to? I don't want to mount the
fuselage to the tailcone, until I'm ready to put it on the gear, as I would
create a storage problem, due to the length of that whole assembly. My QB
fuselage is scheduled to arrive next week, so anyone with ideas?
Chris Hukill
deburring tailcone
Message 5
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Section 28 Fwd and Center Fuselage Attach Bolts |
On section 28 has anyone used to actual bolts Vans provides to temporarily attach
the fwd and center sections of the fuselage? (These would be the tight tolerance
NAS bolts.) If yes, did you end up with any damage to the bolts and nuts?
If not where you able to find the same size bolts at a local hardware store?
The NAS bolts are a very tight fit and I am concerned that if I use bolts from
a home hardware store they might damage the holes.
thanks
Niko
40188
Message 6
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Section 28 Fwd and Center Fuselage Attach Bolts |
The 3/8 bolts from Home Hdwr are just a bit smaller than the close tolerance
bolts. They are much easier to insert. No damage to the close tolerance
bolts when I tried them but they are a little shinier than they were
Ted French
RV-10 wings
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Nikolaos Napoli
Sent: November 25, 2005 3:38 PM
To: Matronics
Subject: RV10-List: Section 28 Fwd and Center Fuselage Attach Bolts
On section 28 has anyone used to actual bolts Vans provides to temporarily
attach the fwd and center sections of the fuselage? (These would be the
tight tolerance NAS bolts.) If yes, did you end up with any damage to the
bolts and nuts? If not where you able to find the same size bolts at a
local hardware store?
The NAS bolts are a very tight fit and I am concerned that if I use bolts
from a home hardware store they might damage the holes.
thanks
Niko
40188
Message 7
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Section 28 Fwd and Center Fuselage Attach Bolts |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <jim@combsfive.com>
Go to the hardware store and get 8 sets - 3/8" diam x 4.5" length bolts, nut and
2 flat washers. Use those for the initial clamping of the fuse halves together.
You only want to torgue down the AN bolts once. That is (hopefully) the last
time you assemble the wings and fuselage.
Jim Combs
N312F
#40192
Message 8
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
bottom cowl?
| Subject: | Re: Why is there a screw in the 6" bottom hinge of the |
bottom cowl?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I have zero experience on this screw, because I installed a bracket and
nutplates on the lower cowl area, but, I'm guessing that the hole is
to get a nutplate later where one of the pin retainers screw in. The
retainers are made of a single hinge eyelit on the horizontal pins
that hold the top and cowl together. Wish I could help more, but
not having done it the same way, I'm speculating.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current section: Engine Hookups
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
>
> I'm working on the cowl and notice that the inboard hole of the
> 6" hinge for the bottom cowl is drilled #27 for a screw. Does anyone
> know why this is? There is a screw hole on the side of the scoop to
> secure the hinge pin, but why the one in the hinge itself?
>
>
>
> Thank You
> Ray Doerr
> 40250
>
Message 9
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Section 28 Fwd and Center Fuselage Attach Bolts |
Not sure of who, how or where I learned this BUT the shank of a close tolerance
bolt is larger than the threads. "Other" bolts threads are cut from & into bolt
stock and can have a slightly larger OD (outside dimension) than the shank
due to expansion. The sharp edges of the threads "could" damage the holes but
the real problem is the shank size of "ordinary" bolts. That's why they have,
use, require and manufacture "close tolerance" bolts. Home Depot bolts are bad
enough to replace AN bolts but NEVER (in my not so humble opinion) use them to
replace close tolerance bolts. Bite the bullet, they cost more & are not available
at hardware stores for a very good reason. You don't reuse piston rod bolts
either. But that's a whole 'nother subject. KABONG Do Not Archive (GBA
& GWB)
----- Original Message -----
From: Nikolaos Napoli
To: Matronics
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 3:37 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Section 28 Fwd and Center Fuselage Attach Bolts
On section 28 has anyone used to actual bolts Vans provides to temporarily attach
the fwd and center sections of the fuselage? (These would be the tight tolerance
NAS bolts.) If yes, did you end up with any damage to the bolts and
nuts? If not where you able to find the same size bolts at a local hardware
store?
The NAS bolts are a very tight fit and I am concerned that if I use bolts from
a home hardware store they might damage the holes.
thanks
Niko
40188
Message 10
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | RE: B&C oil filter |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
I bought an engine that had a B&C oil filter adapter on it. I got my motor
mount this week and held it up to the motor and it appears to hit the filter
with the diagional tube.
Has anyone put a B&C filter adapter on their plane and did they have a
conflict?
Also it apears that the same tube is very close to the vent on the engine.
Any feedback about that.
Gary
Message 11
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: RE: B&C oil filter |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Hey Gary, hope the weather down there is treating you well. It's just
starting to get cold here finally, and there's still no sticking
snow...well, maybe a little after today.
Anyway, I think maybe Scott Schmidt has the B&C adapter and he
had to get an extension for it, if I remember right. Other than
that, I think it looks like it'll work well.
http://scottandranae.smugmug.com/gallery/565366/5/27297876
http://scottandranae.smugmug.com/gallery/565366/2/23756135
I myself am using the standard straight-out model, but will evaluate
after I fly the time off and see if there's a good place to put
on an ADC remote-mount filter. I liked my last one a lot, and taking
it off without going upside down was handy for keeping things clean.
I may just stick with what I have though...I'll change 2 changes
on it before I look elsewhere.
Good luck with your build...I'm sure you're glad to be back there
building again.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current section: Engine Hookups
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Gary Specketer wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
>
>
> I bought an engine that had a B&C oil filter adapter on it. I got my motor
> mount this week and held it up to the motor and it appears to hit the filter
> with the diagional tube.
> Has anyone put a B&C filter adapter on their plane and did they have a
> conflict?
> Also it apears that the same tube is very close to the vent on the engine.
> Any feedback about that.
> Gary
>
>
Message 12
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: Fuselage rotiserie |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jeff Dalton" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
I saw a guy once use an engine stand on one end and a custom stand on the
other. Turned round n round ...
----- Original Message -----
From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Fuselage rotiserie
> --> RV10-List message posted by: <bakerocb@cox.net>
>
> 11/25/2005
>
> Hello Chris, A very common technique among composite builders is to
> support the aft fuselage with a sling or cradle arrangement consisting of
> a nylon strap supported by a 2 x 4 and 3/4 inch thick plywood frame work.
>
> Assembling the frame work with dry wall screws is easy and permits
> disassembly and recycling the components.
>
> OC
>
> Time: 08:42:04 AM PST US
> From: "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net>
> Subject: RV10-List: Fuselage rotiserie
>
> When I built my RV 8 quickbuild fuselage, I built a rotisserie and
> mounted the
> fuselage, using the engine mount holes, and the VS mount structure to
> support
> the assembly. This system was a life saver, as my bad back won't allow me
> to
> bend over the fuselage to work for hours on end. I am studying the various
> photos
> of the RV10, and am trying to fiqure how to mount the QB 10 fuselage onto
> a similar rotisserie. Has anyone build such a fixture for the 10, and
> what did
> they attach the aft end to? I don't want to mount the fuselage to the
> tailcone,
> until I'm ready to put it on the gear, as I would create a storage
> problem,
> due to the length of that whole assembly. My QB fuselage is scheduled to
> arrive
> next week, so anyone with ideas? Chris Hukill
> deburring tailcone
>
>
>
Message 13
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | Re: RE: B&C oil filter |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Regarding the ADC remote filter, I just happened to search for
vetterman exhaust photos tonight, since I didn't get any
real vetterman instructions....found this photo of a remote
mount oil filter on an RV-10.
http://www.aircraftexhaust.net/Vans_RV10_Lycoming_Exhaust_LGPIC2.html
Pretty nice. BTW, The guys at aircraftexhaust.net are fantastic
people.
Tim
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Hey Gary, hope the weather down there is treating you well. It's just
> starting to get cold here finally, and there's still no sticking
> snow...well, maybe a little after today.
>
> Anyway, I think maybe Scott Schmidt has the B&C adapter and he
> had to get an extension for it, if I remember right. Other than
> that, I think it looks like it'll work well.
>
> http://scottandranae.smugmug.com/gallery/565366/5/27297876
> http://scottandranae.smugmug.com/gallery/565366/2/23756135
>
> I myself am using the standard straight-out model, but will evaluate
> after I fly the time off and see if there's a good place to put
> on an ADC remote-mount filter. I liked my last one a lot, and taking
> it off without going upside down was handy for keeping things clean.
> I may just stick with what I have though...I'll change 2 changes
> on it before I look elsewhere.
>
> Good luck with your build...I'm sure you're glad to be back there
> building again.
>
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
> Current section: Engine Hookups
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> Gary Specketer wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
>>
>>
>> I bought an engine that had a B&C oil filter adapter on it. I got my
>> motor
>> mount this week and held it up to the motor and it appears to hit the
>> filter
>> with the diagional tube.
>> Has anyone put a B&C filter adapter on their plane and did they have a
>> conflict?
>> Also it apears that the same tube is very close to the vent on the
>> engine.
>> Any feedback about that.
>> Gary
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 14
| INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
| PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
| NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
| LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
| SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
| Subject: | RE: B&C oil filter |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Sean Blair" <seanblair@adelphia.net>
Hey everyone,
I'm currently working on the fuselage bulkheads on section 25-5 and ran into
something that doesn't look right. Step 11 has you rivet the F-1004J Center
Section Upright Bars with AN426AD4-16 rivets. When I did this, it seems
that the rivets are not long enough. When squeezed there is not quite
enough to get a large enough shop head unless I over squeeze it then it's
not right. Not enough rivet.
Has anyone else run into this? Since there are AN3 bolts installed later,
it seems this won't be a structural issue.
Am I alone on this?
Thanks,
Sean Blair
#40225
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|