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1. 06:06 AM - Re: Overhead Lights & Speaker (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
2. 06:06 AM - Re: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
3. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps (Bill and Tami Britton)
4. 07:41 AM - Dimpling table question (Bill and Tami Britton)
5. 08:59 AM - Re: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
6. 09:40 AM - Re: Dimpling table question (Dean Van Winkle)
7. 10:21 AM - Re: Dimpling table question (John Jessen)
8. 10:41 AM - Re: Dimpling table question (Chris Johnston)
9. 11:45 AM - Re: Dimpling table question (pictures) (Bill and Tami Britton)
10. 12:44 PM - Re: Dimpling table question (Bruce Case)
11. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto)
12. 05:52 PM - Re: Van's SPAM?? (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
13. 06:08 PM - Re: Dimpling table question (Russell Daves)
14. 07:07 PM - pre oilers (James Baldwin)
15. 07:34 PM - Re: Dimpling table comments (David Boone)
16. 07:35 PM - Re: Dimpling table question (Richard Sipp)
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| Subject: | Overhead Lights & Speaker |
Bet you could get some nice 10" subs in the rear bulkhead cover. LMAO
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Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Lights & Speaker
Rightous!
TDT
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of bob.kaufmann
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Lights & Speaker
--> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
I put the red disco ball slightly behind the passenger and the blue disco
ball between the rear seats. The 16 inch JBL speakers are going to be
mounted in the rear deck. Trying to figure out where to put the Dual 1219
turntable with the Mark 5 Type II improved cartridge.
Bob K
RV104BK
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| Subject: | Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps |
Incidentally, I believe the big plus to the "deluxe" caps is that they are easier
to open and seal better.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage inventorying
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
I am just stirrin the pot....
:>)
Chris
#40072
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----- Original Message -----
From: Lloyd, Daniel R. <mailto:LloydDR@wernerco.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
IF it stops someone from putting something bad in the tank then it is worth
it. As for preventing theft, yes you can use the sump, which would be slow,
unless you take out the valve. But more importantly, most people walking around
don't know about sumping the fuel, it is a specific thing you have been exposed
too, think back to before you flew, did you know there was another way
to get fuel out of a plane other than the gas cap? Sure after you were shown,
or watched someone else, but the general public really does not know about it,
so you would minimize the number of people who would know how to steal it.
Just my .20
Dan
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 2:37 PM
To: RV10-List@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
=09
=09
>In my mind, it is cheap insurance. You only need to save one
>tank worth of fuel for the caps to have paid for themselves.
>The same question could be asked - Why do you have locking fuel
> caps on your car?
=09
While locking gas tank caps can be useful in preventing someone from putting
something (malicious) INTO the tank, unless you can also get locking fuel
drains, is seems futile from preventing someone from taking fuel OUT of the
tanks.
=09
William Curtis
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps |
I don't have the deluxe caps yet but I agree with Michael. If they seal better,
then to me, it's worth it. Also, like was stated before, how many non-aviation
related people actually know about tank strainers and drains??? If someone
wants to steal your fuel and they see a locking cap then chances are they'll
move on to the next plane. The main advantage I can see is that they will definitely
eliminate someone from "doctoring" your fuel. I can always look into
my tanks to see if someone has stolen fuel but it's hard to tell by looking if
someone has "spiked" it!!!!!
I know they cost a little more but it's a very small percentage of the total cost
of what we are trying to achieve---a real, flying plane!!!
Not trying to start any debates, just tossing around ideas. I know I will have
these caps on my plane (unless there's something better when I'm ready for them).
However, to each his/her own!!!
Bill Britton
RV-10 Elevators deburred, ready for dimpling
Wings still in their box on the floor
----- Original Message -----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
Incidentally, I believe the big plus to the "deluxe" caps is that they are easier
to open and seal better.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage inventorying
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:19 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
I am just stirrin the pot....
:>)
Chris
#40072
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----- Original Message -----
From: Lloyd, Daniel R.
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
IF it stops someone from putting something bad in the tank then it is worth
it. As for preventing theft, yes you can use the sump, which would be slow, unless
you take out the valve. But more importantly, most people walking around
don't know about sumping the fuel, it is a specific thing you have been exposed
too, think back to before you flew, did you know there was another way to get
fuel out of a plane other than the gas cap? Sure after you were shown, or watched
someone else, but the general public really does not know about it, so
you would minimize the number of people who would know how to steal it.
Just my .20
Dan
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 2:37 PM
To: RV10-List@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
>In my mind, it is cheap insurance. You only need to save one
>tank worth of fuel for the caps to have paid for themselves.
>The same question could be asked - Why do you have locking fuel
> caps on your car?
While locking gas tank caps can be useful in preventing someone from putting
something (malicious) INTO the tank, unless you can also get locking fuel drains,
is seems futile from preventing someone from taking fuel OUT of the tanks.
William Curtis
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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| Subject: | Dimpling table question |
OK, I've got 2 tables. They measure about 2' X 5 ' each. I plan on building a
little structure between the two of them to hold my dimpler so the sides of the
skins are supported when dimpling. My question is this: is it better to have
the dimplier centered in the middle of the tables or just put on the edge of
the table??? maybe it doesn't matter at all. I just want to do it right the
first time.
Any opinions???
Bill Britton
RV-10 Elevator deburred ready for dimpling
Wings still in their boxes on the floor
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| Subject: | Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps |
How hard to "retrofit" the locking caps if your wings are already complete?
TDT
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Bill and Tami Britton
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
I don't have the deluxe caps yet but I agree with Michael. If they seal better,
then to me, it's worth it. Also, like was stated before, how many non-aviation
related people actually know about tank strainers and drains??? If someone
wants to steal your fuel and they see a locking cap then chances are they'll
move on to the next plane. The main advantage I can see is that they will definitely
eliminate someone from "doctoring" your fuel. I can always look into
my tanks to see if someone has stolen fuel but it's hard to tell by looking if
someone has "spiked" it!!!!!
I know they cost a little more but it's a very small percentage of the total cost
of what we are trying to achieve---a real, flying plane!!!
Not trying to start any debates, just tossing around ideas. I know I will have
these caps on my plane (unless there's something better when I'm ready for them).
However, to each his/her own!!!
Bill Britton
RV-10 Elevators deburred, ready for dimpling
Wings still in their box on the floor
----- Original Message -----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <mailto:rvbuilder@sausen.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
Incidentally, I believe the big plus to the "deluxe" caps is that they
are easier to open and seal better.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage inventorying
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:19 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
=09
=09
I am just stirrin the pot....
:>)
Chris
#40072
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----- Original Message -----
From: Lloyd, Daniel R. <mailto:LloydDR@wernerco.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
IF it stops someone from putting something bad in the tank then
it is worth it. As for preventing theft, yes you can use the sump, which would
be slow, unless you take out the valve. But more importantly, most people walking
around don't know about sumping the fuel, it is a specific thing you have
been exposed too, think back to before you flew, did you know there was another
way to get fuel out of a plane other than the gas cap? Sure after you were
shown, or watched someone else, but the general public really does not know about
it, so you would minimize the number of people who would know how to steal
it.
Just my .20
Dan
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 2:37 PM
To: RV10-List@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
=09
=09
>In my mind, it is cheap insurance. You only need to save one
>tank worth of fuel for the caps to have paid for themselves.
>The same question could be asked - Why do you have locking fuel
> caps on your car?
=09
While locking gas tank caps can be useful in preventing someone
from putting something (malicious) INTO the tank, unless you can also get locking
fuel drains, is seems futile from preventing someone from taking fuel OUT
of the tanks.
=09
William Curtis
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling table question |
Bill and Tami
I recommend putting the dimpler between the two tables with the male dimple die
on the bottom and the. top surface of the male die level with the table surfaces.
You definitely want to have the skins supported for some distance on either
side of the dimpler to avoid skin distortions. With the Avery C-Frame, I
also always hold the female die firmly down against the skin before striking the
shaft. Thinner skins especially, are subject to unwanted distortion if not
resting on the male die when struck.
Dean Van Winkle
RV-9A Fuselage/Finish
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami Britton
To: RV10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling table question
OK, I've got 2 tables. They measure about 2' X 5 ' each. I plan on building
a little structure between the two of them to hold my dimpler so the sides of
the skins are supported when dimpling. My question is this: is it better to
have the dimplier centered in the middle of the tables or just put on the edge
of the table??? maybe it doesn't matter at all. I just want to do it right
the first time.
Any opinions???
Bill Britton
RV-10 Elevator deburred ready for dimpling
Wings still in their boxes on the floor
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| Subject: | Dimpling table question |
Pictures pictures pictures, if at all possible. Thanks in advance.
john jessen
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dean Van Winkle
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dimpling table question
Bill and Tami
I recommend putting the dimpler between the two tables with the male dimple
die on the bottom and the. top surface of the male die level with the table
surfaces. You definitely want to have the skins supported for some distance
on either side of the dimpler to avoid skin distortions. With the Avery
C-Frame, I also always hold the female die firmly down against the skin
before striking the shaft. Thinner skins especially, are subject to unwanted
distortion if not resting on the male die when struck.
Dean Van Winkle
RV-9A Fuselage/Finish
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami <mailto:william@gbta.net> Britton
Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling table question
OK, I've got 2 tables. They measure about 2' X 5 ' each. I plan on
building a little structure between the two of them to hold my dimpler so
the sides of the skins are supported when dimpling. My question is this: is
it better to have the dimplier centered in the middle of the tables or just
put on the edge of the table??? maybe it doesn't matter at all. I just
want to do it right the first time.
Any opinions???
Bill Britton
RV-10 Elevator deburred ready for dimpling
Wings still in their boxes on the floor
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| Subject: | Dimpling table question |
I actually put the entire dimpler in the middle of one of my tables,
then I can move other tables around it as I see fit. Now working on the
wings, I have 4 tables, and it's pretty handy. Makes it easier for some
of the bigger skins. And it's removable. I just drilled a hole for the
lower dimpling extension to come up from below, and it sets the die at a
nice height to work at. Some pics here...
http://supercj.bizland.com/archives/2005/07/elevators_3.html
cj
#40410
wings
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dean Van
Winkle
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dimpling table question
Bill and Tami
I recommend putting the dimpler between the two tables with the male
dimple die on the bottom and the. top surface of the male die level with
the table surfaces. You definitely want to have the skins supported for
some distance on either side of the dimpler to avoid skin distortions.
With the Avery C-Frame, I also always hold the female die firmly down
against the skin before striking the shaft. Thinner skins especially,
are subject to unwanted distortion if not resting on the male die when
struck.
Dean Van Winkle
RV-9A Fuselage/Finish
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami Britton <mailto:william@gbta.net>
To: RV10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling table question
OK, I've got 2 tables. They measure about 2' X 5 ' each. I
plan on building a little structure between the two of them to hold my
dimpler so the sides of the skins are supported when dimpling. My
question is this: is it better to have the dimplier centered in the
middle of the tables or just put on the edge of the table??? maybe it
doesn't matter at all. I just want to do it right the first time.
Any opinions???
Bill Britton
RV-10 Elevator deburred ready for dimpling
Wings still in their boxes on the floor
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling table question (pictures) |
Click on the link below for pictures.
http://www.kitlog.com/mykitlog/display_project.php?project_id15
Bill Britton
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From: John Jessen
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 12:21 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Dimpling table question
Pictures pictures pictures, if at all possible. Thanks in advance.
john jessen
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling table question |
Bill,
Your centered design should work well, you will be swinging skins around a bunch
to be able to reach all the holes conveniently. You are definitely are going
to enjoy the dimpler you purchased it is so much nicer to use than clubbing
the skins with a hammer.
Bruce Case, #446
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami Britton
To: RV10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling table question
OK, I've got 2 tables. They measure about 2' X 5 ' each. I plan on building
a little structure between the two of them to hold my dimpler so the sides of
the skins are supported when dimpling. My question is this: is it better to
have the dimplier centered in the middle of the tables or just put on the edge
of the table??? maybe it doesn't matter at all. I just want to do it right
the first time.
Any opinions???
Bill Britton
RV-10 Elevator deburred ready for dimpling
Wings still in their boxes on the floor
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| Subject: | Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps |
Some one was just talking about this on one of the lists. ACS carries retrofits
from the same company that makes ours. I believe there are two types, one gets
a new neck prosealed into the existing flange and the other is just the cap
that will fit existing if there are no dings in it.
Should be listed as retrofit for the RV series in their catalog.
Michael
________________________________
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
How hard to "retrofit" the locking caps if your wings are already complete?
TDT
do not archive
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Bill and Tami Britton
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
I don't have the deluxe caps yet but I agree with Michael. If they seal better,
then to me, it's worth it. Also, like was stated before, how many non-aviation
related people actually know about tank strainers and drains??? If someone
wants to steal your fuel and they see a locking cap then chances are they'll
move on to the next plane. The main advantage I can see is that they will definitely
eliminate someone from "doctoring" your fuel. I can always look into
my tanks to see if someone has stolen fuel but it's hard to tell by looking if
someone has "spiked" it!!!!!
I know they cost a little more but it's a very small percentage of the total cost
of what we are trying to achieve---a real, flying plane!!!
Not trying to start any debates, just tossing around ideas. I know I will have
these caps on my plane (unless there's something better when I'm ready for them).
However, to each his/her own!!!
Bill Britton
RV-10 Elevators deburred, ready for dimpling
Wings still in their box on the floor
----- Original Message -----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <mailto:rvbuilder@sausen.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
Incidentally, I believe the big plus to the "deluxe" caps is that they
are easier to open and seal better.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage inventorying
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:19 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
=09
=09
I am just stirrin the pot....
:>)
Chris
#40072
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Lloyd, Daniel R. <mailto:LloydDR@wernerco.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
IF it stops someone from putting something bad in the tank then
it is worth it. As for preventing theft, yes you can use the sump, which would
be slow, unless you take out the valve. But more importantly, most people walking
around don't know about sumping the fuel, it is a specific thing you have
been exposed too, think back to before you flew, did you know there was another
way to get fuel out of a plane other than the gas cap? Sure after you were
shown, or watched someone else, but the general public really does not know about
it, so you would minimize the number of people who would know how to steal
it.
Just my .20
Dan
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 2:37 PM
To: RV10-List@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
=09
=09
>In my mind, it is cheap insurance. You only need to save one
>tank worth of fuel for the caps to have paid for themselves.
>The same question could be asked - Why do you have locking fuel
> caps on your car?
=09
While locking gas tank caps can be useful in preventing someone
from putting something (malicious) INTO the tank, unless you can also get locking
fuel drains, is seems futile from preventing someone from taking fuel OUT
of the tanks.
=09
William Curtis
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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| Subject: | RE: Van's SPAM?? |
Did anyone else get a strange email from Tom Green at Van's? No text and a strange
attachment of unknown file type. I wonder if he's got some spam virus .
. .
TDT
40025
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
Some one was just talking about this on one of the lists. ACS carries retrofits
from the same company that makes ours. I believe there are two types, one gets
a new neck prosealed into the existing flange and the other is just the cap
that will fit existing if there are no dings in it.
Should be listed as retrofit for the RV series in their catalog.
Michael
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
How hard to "retrofit" the locking caps if your wings are already complete?
TDT
do not archive
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Bill and Tami Britton
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
I don't have the deluxe caps yet but I agree with Michael. If they seal better,
then to me, it's worth it. Also, like was stated before, how many non-aviation
related people actually know about tank strainers and drains??? If someone
wants to steal your fuel and they see a locking cap then chances are they'll
move on to the next plane. The main advantage I can see is that they will definitely
eliminate someone from "doctoring" your fuel. I can always look into
my tanks to see if someone has stolen fuel but it's hard to tell by looking if
someone has "spiked" it!!!!!
I know they cost a little more but it's a very small percentage of the total cost
of what we are trying to achieve---a real, flying plane!!!
Not trying to start any debates, just tossing around ideas. I know I will have
these caps on my plane (unless there's something better when I'm ready for them).
However, to each his/her own!!!
Bill Britton
RV-10 Elevators deburred, ready for dimpling
Wings still in their box on the floor
----- Original Message -----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <mailto:rvbuilder@sausen.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 8:05 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
Incidentally, I believe the big plus to the "deluxe" caps is that they
are easier to open and seal better.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage inventorying
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:19 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
=09
=09
I am just stirrin the pot....
:>)
Chris
#40072
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Lloyd, Daniel R. <mailto:LloydDR@wernerco.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
IF it stops someone from putting something bad in the tank then
it is worth it. As for preventing theft, yes you can use the sump, which would
be slow, unless you take out the valve. But more importantly, most people walking
around don't know about sumping the fuel, it is a specific thing you have
been exposed too, think back to before you flew, did you know there was another
way to get fuel out of a plane other than the gas cap? Sure after you were
shown, or watched someone else, but the general public really does not know about
it, so you would minimize the number of people who would know how to steal
it.
Just my .20
Dan
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 2:37 PM
To: RV10-List@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps
=09
=09
>In my mind, it is cheap insurance. You only need to save one
>tank worth of fuel for the caps to have paid for themselves.
>The same question could be asked - Why do you have locking fuel
> caps on your car?
=09
While locking gas tank caps can be useful in preventing someone
from putting something (malicious) INTO the tank, unless you can also get locking
fuel drains, is seems futile from preventing someone from taking fuel OUT
of the tanks.
=09
William Curtis
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling table question |
Here is a picture of mine.
It is a single table and it worked great as I set it up. You can see how the
VS opposite side skin is off the table and as I worked up the row of rivet holes
the opposite side skin slid along under the edge of the table.
Russ Daves
N710RV (RV-10 Reserved - Fuselage on main gear)
N65RV (RV-6A Sold)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami Britton
To: RV10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling table question
OK, I've got 2 tables. They measure about 2' X 5 ' each. I plan on building
a little structure between the two of them to hold my dimpler so the sides of
the skins are supported when dimpling. My question is this: is it better to
have the dimplier centered in the middle of the tables or just put on the edge
of the table??? maybe it doesn't matter at all. I just want to do it right
the first time.
Any opinions???
Bill Britton
RV-10 Elevator deburred ready for dimpling
Wings still in their boxes on the floor
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--> RV10-List message posted by: James Baldwin <jamesbaldwin@dc.rr.com>
RV10 guys -
The automotive racing world has been using accumulators for a long time
for both pre oiling before start and for temporary interuption of
pressure supply. Look at a Jeg's or smilar catalog and you'll see what
is avail. n electric selector or manual selector valve is your choice.
A long way from needing it but that is what I'll be doing for my Harmon
Rocket. JBB
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling table comments |
Great Legs!!! David Boone
----- Original Message -----
From: Russell Daves
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dimpling table question
Here is a picture of mine.
It is a single table and it worked great as I set it up. You can see how the
VS opposite side skin is off the table and as I worked up the row of rivet holes
the opposite side skin slid along under the edge of the table.
Russ Daves
N710RV (RV-10 Reserved - Fuselage on main gear)
N65RV (RV-6A Sold)
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami Britton
To: RV10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling table question
OK, I've got 2 tables. They measure about 2' X 5 ' each. I plan on building
a little structure between the two of them to hold my dimpler so the sides
of the skins are supported when dimpling. My question is this: is it better to
have the dimplier centered in the middle of the tables or just put on the edge
of the table??? maybe it doesn't matter at all. I just want to do it right
the first time.
Any opinions???
Bill Britton
RV-10 Elevator deburred ready for dimpling
Wings still in their boxes on the floor
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling table question |
Bill,
I would think putting the dimpler in between the tables will work fine 90% of the
time. You will quickly find ways to manuver the skin as necessary. As long
as you have one of the models of the dimpler with a 2 foot or so throat you'll
have no problems.
Dick Sipp
40065
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami Britton
To: RV10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling table question
OK, I've got 2 tables. They measure about 2' X 5 ' each. I plan on building
a little structure between the two of them to hold my dimpler so the sides of
the skins are supported when dimpling. My question is this: is it better to
have the dimplier centered in the middle of the tables or just put on the edge
of the table??? maybe it doesn't matter at all. I just want to do it right
the first time.
Any opinions???
Bill Britton
RV-10 Elevator deburred ready for dimpling
Wings still in their boxes on the floor
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