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1. 09:27 AM - Re: finish kit question (Jesse Saint)
2. 02:00 PM - Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs (Bill and Tami Britton)
3. 02:41 PM - Re: exterior paint over akzo epoxy primer? (Tim Olson)
4. 02:41 PM - Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
5. 02:55 PM - That time of year again.... (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 03:15 PM - Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs (Rene Felker)
7. 03:23 PM - List speeds (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 04:13 PM - Re: List speeds (Tim Olson)
9. 04:15 PM - Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs (Bill and Tami Britton)
10. 04:23 PM - Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs (Jeff Carpenter)
11. 04:29 PM - Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs (owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com)
12. 04:41 PM - Re: List speeds (John Jessen)
13. 04:53 PM - Cogsdill #40 (Eric Panning)
14. 05:00 PM - Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs (Deems Davis)
15. 05:04 PM - Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs (Jeff Carpenter)
16. 05:14 PM - Re: List speeds (Tim Olson)
17. 05:32 PM - Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs (John Hasbrouck)
18. 06:23 PM - Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
19. 06:29 PM - Re: List speeds (Matt Dralle)
20. 07:13 PM - Re: Cogsdill #40 (Bill and Tami Britton)
21. 07:13 PM - Re: List speeds (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
22. 07:32 PM - Re: List speeds (Dj Merrill)
23. 08:14 PM - Re: That time of year again.... (Robert G. Wright)
24. 09:02 PM - Re: List speeds (John Jessen)
25. 09:45 PM - Re: List speeds (Matt Dralle)
26. 09:51 PM - Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs (Edward Hershberger)
27. 10:03 PM - Did I ruin my skin??? (Bill and Tami Britton)
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| Subject: | finish kit question |
Give you more nose up trim than nose down trim. If you are light and at the
forward CG, you will need all of the elevator you can get to flare. You
will need all of that nose up trim to take the pressure off. You don't,
however need as much nose-down trim, so the left trim tab stops at 0 when
you trim nose down.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Fax: 815-377-3694
I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC,
please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me,
please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has
voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Subject: RV10-List: finish kit question
rigging instructions suggest trim should be left tab 0-32 down and right tab
should be 25 up to 35 down. Anybody done this? what's the reason?
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| Subject: | Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs |
For those that have gone before me, how did you dimple the last 3 holes on the
flanges of the E-903 tip ribs. The squeezer is too large to fit and there's not
enough room to get the pins through the holes using the close quarters dimple
dies. I tried shortening one of the pins but when I get it short enough to
make it through the holes on the flanges, it's not long enough for the "pop"
rivet tool to grasp!!!!!
Bill Britton
RV-10 #40137 Elevators
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| Subject: | Re: exterior paint over akzo epoxy primer? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I didn't have a problem with that. Just make sure you scuff the akzo
real well before you spray the new paint. You'd have to do that if
you painted over cured paint too, so it's nothing too out of the
ordinary.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
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Chris Johnston wrote:
> Hey all
>
> Are there any gotchas associated with painting an exterior finish over
> akzo epoxy primer? Couldnt find anything on the technical data sheet
> for akzo and wondered if anyone had experience with doing it?
>
>
>
> cj
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> #40410
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> wings
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> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs |
Hmm, don't recall for sure but I'm thinking this may be a location for the vice
grips or pop rivet dimpler.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Mid Fuse Bulkheads
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami Britton
Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs
For those that have gone before me, how did you dimple the last 3 holes on the
flanges of the E-903 tip ribs. The squeezer is too large to fit and there's not
enough room to get the pins through the holes using the close quarters dimple
dies. I tried shortening one of the pins but when I get it short enough to
make it through the holes on the flanges, it's not long enough for the "pop"
rivet tool to grasp!!!!!
Bill Britton
RV-10 #40137 Elevators
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| Subject: | That time of year again.... |
Anyone have any idea how much the kit's are going up Jan1?
Michael
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| Subject: | Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs |
I used a short pin and two pairs of vise grips. I put the close quarter
dimpler in place and squeezed 180 degrees apart. Worked pretty good.
Rene' Felker
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami
Britton
Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs
For those that have gone before me, how did you dimple the last 3 holes on
the flanges of the E-903 tip ribs. The squeezer is too large to fit and
there's not enough room to get the pins through the holes using the close
quarters dimple dies. I tried shortening one of the pins but when I get it
short enough to make it through the holes on the flanges, it's not long
enough for the "pop" rivet tool to grasp!!!!!
Bill Britton
RV-10 #40137 Elevators
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Anyone else notice that the list post speed seems to be slowing down? I've been
kinda watching and my posts seem to be taking 20+ minutes to show up. Checked
my server logs and it's showing an immediate transfer to Matt's server.
Michael
do not archive
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I think it's varying depending on when your email goes through.
Imagine that their server is handling every email list, so
if they get 20 emails in a few minutes, there are thousands and
thousands to deliver, and they queue up. Just today I had
one come back realy quick, but at a time when the lists were
slow.
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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> Anyone else notice that the list post speed seems to be slowing down?
> I've been kinda watching and my posts seem to be taking 20+ minutes to
> show up. Checked my server logs and it's showing an immediate transfer
> to Matt's server.
>
> Michael
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs |
I don't have the vice grip dimplers. Might have to get a pair. However, I cannot
get the pop rivet dimplers to work because the pins are too long to get through
the holes. I'll keep trying.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:41 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs
Hmm, don't recall for sure but I'm thinking this may be a location for the vice
grips or pop rivet dimpler.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Mid Fuse Bulkheads
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami Britton
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:00 PM
To: RV10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs
For those that have gone before me, how did you dimple the last 3 holes on the
flanges of the E-903 tip ribs. The squeezer is too large to fit and there's
not enough room to get the pins through the holes using the close quarters dimple
dies. I tried shortening one of the pins but when I get it short enough
to make it through the holes on the flanges, it's not long enough for the "pop"
rivet tool to grasp!!!!!
Bill Britton
RV-10 #40137 Elevators
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs |
I used the pop-rivet dimpler... it takes some time to work the nail
in place, but it will work.
On Dec 14, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> For those that have gone before me, how did you dimple the last 3
> holes on the flanges of the E-903 tip ribs. The squeezer is too
> large to fit and there's not enough room to get the pins through
> the holes using the close quarters dimple dies. I tried shortening
> one of the pins but when I get it short enough to make it through
> the holes on the flanges, it's not long enough for the "pop" rivet
> tool to grasp!!!!!
>
> Bill Britton
> RV-10 #40137 Elevators
>
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| Subject: | Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs |
I used the vice grips dimpler included with the Avery rv builder tool
kit. It wasn't too long ago for me, so it's still fresh in my mind....
cj
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs
Hmm, don't recall for sure but I'm thinking this may be a location for
the vice grips or pop rivet dimpler.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Mid Fuse Bulkheads
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami
Britton
Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs
For those that have gone before me, how did you dimple the last 3 holes
on the flanges of the E-903 tip ribs. The squeezer is too large to fit
and there's not enough room to get the pins through the holes using the
close quarters dimple dies. I tried shortening one of the pins but when
I get it short enough to make it through the holes on the flanges, it's
not long enough for the "pop" rivet tool to grasp!!!!!
Bill Britton
RV-10 #40137 Elevators
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
I've not ever gotten quick turn around. I've just assumed that 20 minutes
was usual.
John
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: List speeds
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I think it's varying depending on when your email goes through.
Imagine that their server is handling every email list, so if they get 20
emails in a few minutes, there are thousands and thousands to deliver, and
they queue up. Just today I had one come back realy quick, but at a time
when the lists were slow.
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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> Anyone else notice that the list post speed seems to be slowing down?
> I've been kinda watching and my posts seem to be taking 20+ minutes to
> show up. Checked my server logs and it's showing an immediate
> transfer to Matt's server.
>
> Michael
> do not archive
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
Awhile back there was discussion on the Cogsdill
Burraway #40 being less than useful. I agree that as
delivered, it countersinks the backside of the hole.
If you turn the allen head set screw roughly 1 turn
out it improves, but is still not great.
I decided it is most useful as a hand tool and plan on
mounting in a wooden file handle. Key advantage is you
can deburr both sides and deburr the backside of holes
otherwise inaccessible. As a hand tool, you can gently
deburr the backside without countersinking. I'm happy
with the results this way.
Eric
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Bill, I did all but the last 1 or 2 w/ the vice grip dimpler, I made my
own from a standard set of vice grips and used my #40 dies see pics:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2022%20Flaps/slides/DSC01727.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2022%20Flaps/slides/DSC01728.html
The vice grips won't fit the last hole (two?) so I used the pop rivet
close quarters, if you bend the flange open you can get the pop tool in,
then rebend when finished.
Deems Davis # 406
Wing Flaps finished
http://deemsrv10.com/
Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> I don't have the vice grip dimplers. Might have to get a pair.
> However, I cannot get the pop rivet dimplers to work because the pins
> are too long to get through the holes. I'll keep trying.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <mailto:rvbuilder@sausen.net>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:41 PM
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs
>
> Hmm, don't recall for sure but I'm thinking this may be a location
> for the vice grips or pop rivet dimpler.
>
> Michael Sausen
> -10 #352 Mid Fuse Bulkheads
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> and Tami Britton
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:00 PM
> *To:* RV10-list@matronics.com <mailto:RV10-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs
>
> For those that have gone before me, how did you dimple the last 3
> holes on the flanges of the E-903 tip ribs. The squeezer is too
> large to fit and there's not enough room to get the pins through
> the holes using the close quarters dimple dies. I tried
> shortening one of the pins but when I get it short enough to make
> it through the holes on the flanges, it's not long enough for the
> "pop" rivet tool to grasp!!!!!
>
> Bill Britton
> RV-10 #40137 Elevators
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs |
You can trim the pins a bit... so that they'll get through the hole
and leave you with enough pin to still grip it with the pop rivet tool.
That's how I did it... though I recently though that I could have
trimmed the tab down a bit to decrease the angle and make getting the
pop rivet pin in more easily.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
Torquing wing nuts...
On Dec 14, 2005, at 4:14 PM, Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> I don't have the vice grip dimplers. Might have to get a pair.
> However, I cannot get the pop rivet dimplers to work because the
> pins are too long to get through the holes. I'll keep trying.
>
> Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:41 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs
>
> Hmm, don't recall for sure but I'm thinking this may be a location
> for the vice grips or pop rivet dimpler.
>
> Michael Sausen
> -10 #352 Mid Fuse Bulkheads
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami Britton
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:00 PM
> To: RV10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs
>
> For those that have gone before me, how did you dimple the last 3
> holes on the flanges of the E-903 tip ribs. The squeezer is too
> large to fit and there's not enough room to get the pins through
> the holes using the close quarters dimple dies. I tried shortening
> one of the pins but when I get it short enough to make it through
> the holes on the flanges, it's not long enough for the "pop" rivet
> tool to grasp!!!!!
>
> Bill Britton
> RV-10 #40137 Elevators
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
<tongue inserted into cheek>
Anyone for moving back to yahoo?
<tongue removed>
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
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John Jessen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> I've not ever gotten quick turn around. I've just assumed that 20 minutes
> was usual.
>
> John
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:13 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: List speeds
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I think it's varying depending on when your email goes through.
> Imagine that their server is handling every email list, so if they get 20
> emails in a few minutes, there are thousands and thousands to deliver, and
> they queue up. Just today I had one come back realy quick, but at a time
> when the lists were slow.
>
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>
>> Anyone else notice that the list post speed seems to be slowing down?
>>I've been kinda watching and my posts seem to be taking 20+ minutes to
>>show up. Checked my server logs and it's showing an immediate
>>transfer to Matt's server.
>>
>>Michael
>>do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs |
You can make a female die from a piece of 1/8 or thicker flat or angle iron by
countersinking it with your machine countersink. Drill a #40 hole close to the
edge of the angle so it will fit into the tip rib then use the male dimple die
with a mallet to dimple. If you clamp the angle to your work bench then center
the hole in the tip rib over the countersunk area you can get an adequate
dimple.
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| Subject: | Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs |
use the pop rivet dimples like you are talking about, but use a flat
nose vise grip to compress it, or a cheap c-clamp ground down, just make
sure to do it gradual and keep it lined up with a very stubby nail for
guiding, or you could buy the vise grip dimplers and grind down the tip,
like I did!
Dan
40269
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami
Britton
Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs
For those that have gone before me, how did you dimple the last 3 holes
on the flanges of the E-903 tip ribs. The squeezer is too large to fit
and there's not enough room to get the pins through the holes using the
close quarters dimple dies. I tried shortening one of the pins but when
I get it short enough to make it through the holes on the flanges, it's
not long enough for the "pop" rivet tool to grasp!!!!!
Bill Britton
RV-10 #40137 Elevators
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Hum, time to clean out all those old, bogus email addresses. I'll run the Weasel
here in a minute. That should speed things up!
Matt Dralle
List Admin
At 03:22 PM 12/14/2005 Wednesday, you wrote:
> Anyone else notice that the list post speed seems to be slowing down? I've
been kinda watching and my posts seem to be taking 20+ minutes to show up. Checked
my server logs and it's showing an immediate transfer to Matt's server.
>
>Michael
>do not archive
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Re: Cogsdill #40 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
I "experimented" with my #40 cogsdill throughout the whole elevator
deburring process and never did get it to where I was really "satisfied"
with the job it does. I have decided to use it as you stated, Eric, a
deburrer for holes that have the back side more less inaccessible. For skin
holes I'll go back to the old, but faithful speed deburrer from avery.
Now, for the #30, it works great.
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Bill Britton
RV-10 #40137 Elevators
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Panning" <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Cogsdill #40
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
>
> Awhile back there was discussion on the Cogsdill
> Burraway #40 being less than useful. I agree that as
> delivered, it countersinks the backside of the hole.
> If you turn the allen head set screw roughly 1 turn
> out it improves, but is still not great.
>
> I decided it is most useful as a hand tool and plan on
> mounting in a wooden file handle. Key advantage is you
> can deburr both sides and deburr the backside of holes
> otherwise inaccessible. As a hand tool, you can gently
> deburr the backside without countersinking. I'm happy
> with the results this way.
>
> Eric
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Funny you should mention that. The unmod Yahoo lists are instantaneous for me.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: List speeds
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
<tongue inserted into cheek>
Anyone for moving back to yahoo?
<tongue removed>
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
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John Jessen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> I've not ever gotten quick turn around. I've just assumed that 20
> minutes was usual.
>
> John
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:13 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: List speeds
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I think it's varying depending on when your email goes through.
> Imagine that their server is handling every email list, so if they get
> 20 emails in a few minutes, there are thousands and thousands to
> deliver, and they queue up. Just today I had one come back realy
> quick, but at a time when the lists were slow.
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> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
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>> Anyone else notice that the list post speed seems to be slowing down?
>>I've been kinda watching and my posts seem to be taking 20+ minutes to
>>show up. Checked my server logs and it's showing an immediate
>>transfer to Matt's server.
>>
>>Michael
>>do not archive
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
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> <tongue inserted into cheek>
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> Anyone for moving back to yahoo?
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> <tongue removed>
S'cuse me folks, I need to take
dear Tim out back and beat him... *wink*
-Dj
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| Subject: | That time of year again.... |
Dunno but I finally got my full QB on order last week, so I'll be enjoying
seeing the price go up knowing that I won't have to pay the increase for the
wings and fuse. Just the finishing kit and the other $100K!
Rob
Tailcone going up on sawhorses
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Subject: RV10-List: That time of year again....
Anyone have any idea how much the kit's are going up Jan1?
Michael
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
My point, exactly.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: List speeds
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
<tongue inserted into cheek>
Anyone for moving back to yahoo?
<tongue removed>
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
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John Jessen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> I've not ever gotten quick turn around. I've just assumed that 20
> minutes was usual.
>
> John
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:13 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: List speeds
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I think it's varying depending on when your email goes through.
> Imagine that their server is handling every email list, so if they get
> 20 emails in a few minutes, there are thousands and thousands to
> deliver, and they queue up. Just today I had one come back realy
> quick, but at a time when the lists were slow.
>
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> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
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>> Anyone else notice that the list post speed seems to be slowing down?
>>I've been kinda watching and my posts seem to be taking 20+ minutes to
>>show up. Checked my server logs and it's showing an immediate
>>transfer to Matt's server.
>>
>>Michael
>>do not archive
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<713AB06C9DF78341B117C618F535B36D045FBB@saturn.sausen.net>
--> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Depends on where your email address is on the subscription list for delivery.
It its at the top for some reason, the delivery will be instant. If its at the
bottom, it will take some amount of time depending on how many people are on
the list. If there are addresses on the list that are invalid or on a host that
doesn't exist any longer, then the timeouts can be long and delay the delivery.
When I run the Weasel it cleans out all of the email addresses that are
bad and greatly decreases the overall delivery time.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
At 07:05 PM 12/14/2005 Wednesday, you wrote:
>Funny you should mention that. The unmod Yahoo lists are instantaneous for me.
>
>Michael
>Do not archive
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:08 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: List speeds
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
><tongue inserted into cheek>
>
>Anyone for moving back to yahoo?
>
><tongue removed>
>
>Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>John Jessen wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>>
>> I've not ever gotten quick turn around. I've just assumed that 20
>> minutes was usual.
>>
>> John
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 4:13 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: List speeds
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> I think it's varying depending on when your email goes through.
>> Imagine that their server is handling every email list, so if they get
>> 20 emails in a few minutes, there are thousands and thousands to
>> deliver, and they queue up. Just today I had one come back realy
>> quick, but at a time when the lists were slow.
>>
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>>
>> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone else notice that the list post speed seems to be slowing down?
>>>I've been kinda watching and my posts seem to be taking 20+ minutes to
>>>show up. Checked my server logs and it's showing an immediate
>>>transfer to Matt's server.
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>>>Michael
>>>do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Edward Hershberger <elhershb@comcast.net>
Cleaveland tools has a new item, the _Tight Fit Dimpling Fixture_.
http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/prodinfo.asp?number=DIE4263DF
You also have to use the male dimple die. This was made just for this
kind of problem, it looks like it will work just fine.
Ed
#40430
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> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill and
> Tami Britton
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:00 PM
> *To:* RV10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Dimpling flanges on E-903 tip ribs
>
> For those that have gone before me, how did you dimple the last 3
> holes on the flanges of the E-903 tip ribs. The squeezer is too large
> to fit and there's not enough room to get the pins through the holes
> using the close quarters dimple dies. I tried shortening one of the
> pins but when I get it short enough to make it through the holes on
> the flanges, it's not long enough for the "pop" rivet tool to grasp!!!!!
>
> Bill Britton
> RV-10 #40137 Elevators
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| Subject: | Did I ruin my skin??? |
Tried rolling the trailing edge of the elevator skins tonight and it doesn't look
very good. I haven't had much luck with this edge rolling process yet in my
building. Anyway, I didn't apply much pressure at all and the first skin, after
a single pass, turned out wavy. Check out the picture and let me know what
you think. Tomorrow I'll try clecoing it to the trailing edge wedge and see
how it looks.
Has anybody just skipped this step in their bulding??? I'm wondering how big the
gap would actually be if I just didn't worry about rolling the edges on the
elevator skins??? Just curious.
Bill
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