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1. 03:50 AM - Re: Happy Birthday (2 me) a year later (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
2. 04:17 AM - Re: shipping costs (Wayne Edgerton)
3. 04:19 AM - Re: Vans Pricing Increase question (Wayne Edgerton)
4. 04:35 AM - Re: Picking an Engine MonitorPicking an Engine Monitor (Wayne Edgerton)
5. 04:49 AM - Re: AF-2500 Chelton Interface (Wayne Edgerton)
6. 05:15 AM - Re: AF-2500 Chelton Interface (David McNeill)
7. 05:49 AM - Re: AF-2500 Chelton Interface (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 07:55 AM - Engine monitor (Chris Hukill)
9. 08:39 AM - Re: Happy Birthday (2 me) a year later (John Testement)
10. 08:58 AM - Re: Picking an Engine MonitorPicking an Engine Monitor (John Testement)
11. 09:21 AM - Re: AF-2500 Chelton Interface (Roger Standley)
12. 03:02 PM - Re: Engine monitor (Jesse Saint)
13. 03:03 PM - Re: Happy Birthday (2 me) a year later (Jesse Saint)
14. 05:17 PM - Re: Engine monitor (John Testement)
15. 05:59 PM - Re: Engine monitor (Jesse Saint)
16. 06:07 PM - Re: AF-2500 Chelton Interface (RobHickman@aol.com)
17. 06:14 PM - Re: Engine monitor (RobHickman@aol.com)
18. 06:17 PM - Re: AF-2500 Chelton Interface (RobHickman@aol.com)
19. 09:12 PM - Re: Happy Birthday (2 me) a year later (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | Happy Birthday (2 me) a year later |
That prop doesn't look like a blended airfoil!
Seriously though looks good.
Michael
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Happy Birthday (2 me) a year later
Some of you may remember that a year ago for my birthday, I got an RV-10 hand carved
model from my dad. It was only one of 2 made by Griffin Aerospace Models.
You may also remember that right after OSH 2005 this summer, I sold off my
highly prized posession to Dan Lloyd, because Griffin said the cost of a repaint
was basically equal for me to the cost of having another one made...maybe
a few more bucks to go custom, but oh well.
Well today, just past that next birthday, I got my present in the mail again, but
this time it is truly "MY" RV10. Attached are some photos.
I can highly recommend Griffin, as I believe Dan any myself would both tell you
that the quality is extrordinary. The only thing missing on mine is the antennas,
which would be my fault since I didn't specify them, and the photos I sent
didn't show the antennas.
See below for the photos. Here is Griffin's contact info:
817-624-2320 or 866-584-0260
Fax 817-624-0422
Today, despite UPS not showing up with my fuel line stuff, I'm a very happy boy.
To see a couple more pics, or if you get the digest version, here's a
link: http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/misc/index.html
Tim
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Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: shipping costs |
You can go to the web address below to get his info or his phone is 541-330-0828
http://www.vansairforce.net/Graphics/PartainTruckingCo.htm
Wayne Edgerton
RV10 # 40336
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| Subject: | Re: Vans Pricing Increase question |
I believe the price is as of order date.
Wayne Edgerton
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| Subject: | Re: Picking an Engine MonitorPicking an Engine Monitor |
I plan on installing two Chelton's, one on the left and one on the right, and under
the pilot side Chelton plan on installing an Advanced Flight System AF-2500.
I want have a dedicated display for the engine functions and this unit will
give me quite a few other functions as well.
Wayne Edgerton RV10 #40336
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| Subject: | Re: AF-2500 Chelton Interface |
Hello Rob,
I have ordered your AF-2500 system. I'm sure I'm missing something here but why
would I want to interface your unit with the Chelton if I have a dedicated display
with your unit? Are you saying not to use your display but to use the Chelton?
Wayne Edgerton RV10 # 40336
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| Subject: | Re: AF-2500 Chelton Interface |
I believe you will still need an additional small unit from Chelton , the air data
computer (supplied by GRT either within the EIS6000 or separately). Since
the interfaced EIS6000 has very comparable displays on the Chelton I assume there
must be extra functions in the AF2500 i.e. checklists for the extra $2000+.
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Edgerton
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: AF-2500 Chelton Interface
Hello Rob,
I have ordered your AF-2500 system. I'm sure I'm missing something here but why
would I want to interface your unit with the Chelton if I have a dedicated
display with your unit? Are you saying not to use your display but to use the
Chelton?
Wayne Edgerton RV10 # 40336
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| Subject: | AF-2500 Chelton Interface |
The main reason you would also want to interface it to the Chelton is to get the
Chelton to pop up alerts on it's main screens. The less you have to look around
for information the better and if you can have anything critical or advisory
in one location you don't have to worry about it as much. I agree I would
still want the additional dedicated engine display but I would rather not have
to worry that I need to put it in my scan in a minimums approach or high workload
scenario.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Mid Fuse Bulkheads
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Subject: Re: RV10-List: AF-2500 Chelton Interface
Hello Rob,
I have ordered your AF-2500 system. I'm sure I'm missing something here but why
would I want to interface your unit with the Chelton if I have a dedicated display
with your unit? Are you saying not to use your display but to use the Chelton?
Wayne Edgerton RV10 # 40336
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I recently took a trip up to the Dynon factory, near Seattle, to see they're new
D100 system. I was blown away with the display! The screen was very bright,
with high resolution, and the symbols were steady, with no flicker. They have
units running on internal battery power that you can simulate the most extreme,
and violent attitudes that you can produce waving it around in your arms, and
I was never able to tumble it. The ability to split the very large display and
present the majority of the engine data on the PFD is a great feature. The
whole system, including dual AHRS, dual screens, all 6 cylinder engine and fuel
flow probes, remote compass, OAT, and AOA pitot (not yet heated) is under $6000!!!!!
This is for a system that is far more capable, with a brighter, cleaner
display than is in the G4 I fly for a living! Now I can commit to a system,
and start plumbing accordingly.
Chris Hukill
riveting tailcone
tripping over QB wings and fuselage
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| Subject: | Happy Birthday (2 me) a year later |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Testement" <jwt@roadmapscoaching.com>
Happy Birthday Tim!! What a really cool present.
I get warm feelings when I see how your whole family is so involved in the
project. You are a lucky man!
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Working on QB fuse
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Happy Birthday (2 me) a year later
Some of you may remember that a year ago for my birthday, I got an RV-10
hand carved model from my dad. It was only one of 2 made by Griffin
Aerospace Models. You may also remember that right after OSH 2005 this
summer, I sold off my highly prized posession to Dan Lloyd, because Griffin
said the cost of a repaint was basically equal for me to the cost of having
another one made...maybe a few more bucks to go custom, but oh well.
Well today, just past that next birthday, I got my present in the mail
again, but this time it is truly "MY" RV10. Attached are some photos.
I can highly recommend Griffin, as I believe Dan any myself would both tell
you that the quality is extrordinary. The only thing missing on mine is the
antennas, which would be my fault since I didn't specify them, and the
photos I sent didn't show the antennas.
See below for the photos. Here is Griffin's contact info:
817-624-2320 or 866-584-0260
Fax 817-624-0422
Today, despite UPS not showing up with my fuel line stuff, I'm a very happy
boy.
To see a couple more pics, or if you get the digest version, here's a
link: http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/misc/index.html
Tim
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Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Picking an Engine MonitorPicking an Engine Monitor |
It would seem that the MFD with moving map navigation, weather, etc. would
be a higher priority than engine instruments. You will want to constantly
monitor your location, but as someone else commented, you don't need to
stare at the engine data. You may want to consider putting the MFD on the
pilot side and EM on the right.
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Working on QB fuse
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Picking an Engine MonitorPicking an Engine Monitor
I plan on installing two Chelton's, one on the left and one on the right,
and under the pilot side Chelton plan on installing an Advanced Flight
System AF-2500. I want have a dedicated display for the engine functions and
this unit will give me quite a few other functions as well.
Wayne Edgerton RV10 #40336
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| Subject: | Re: AF-2500 Chelton Interface |
Hey Rob,
Have you had a chance to go over to Van's and take a picture of their RV-10 POS-12
flap position input for the AF-2500?
Roger Standley
#40291
----- Original Message -----
From: RobHickman@aol.com<mailto:RobHickman@aol.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 3:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: AF-2500 Chelton Interface
We have finished the software interface for the AF-2500 to Chelton System and
are currently testing it. We have a number of orders for the system and should
have them delivered in the next 4 weeks.
Rob Hickman
Advanced Flight Systems
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And, if you want to go cheaper or save panel space, you can get both the
EFIS and the EMS in the same unit for a retail of around $3,200 (with no
sensors). It's called the FlightDEK D180 and would be a perfect instrument
for a backup EFIS and a dedicated EMS. With this one the battery backup
will give you both EFIS and EMS, whereas they don't have a backup battery
option for the EMS.
I can't wait to see what they come out with next. They do a good job of
making stuff that works while keeping the prices down. No, they're not
Chelton, but the panel won't cost upwards of $60,000 either.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Fax: 815-377-3694
I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC,
please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me,
please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has
voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill
Subject: RV10-List: Engine monitor
I recently took a trip up to the Dynon factory, near Seattle, to see they're
new D100 system. I was blown away with the display! The screen was very
bright, with high resolution, and the symbols were steady, with no flicker.
They have units running on internal battery power that you can simulate the
most extreme, and violent attitudes that you can produce waving it around in
your arms, and I was never able to tumble it. The ability to split the very
large display and present the majority of the engine data on the PFD is a
great feature. The whole system, including dual AHRS, dual screens, all 6
cylinder engine and fuel flow probes, remote compass, OAT, and AOA pitot
(not yet heated) is under $6000!!!!! This is for a system that is far more
capable, with a brighter, cleaner display than is in the G4 I fly for a
living! Now I can commit to a system, and start plumbing accordingly.
Chris Hukill
riveting tailcone
tripping over QB wings and fuselage
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| Subject: | Happy Birthday (2 me) a year later |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
What was the price tag, out of curiosity?
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Fax: 815-377-3694
I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC,
please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me,
please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has
voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: RV10-List: Happy Birthday (2 me) a year later
Some of you may remember that a year ago for my birthday, I got an RV-10
hand carved model from my dad. It was only one of 2 made by Griffin
Aerospace Models. You may also remember that right after OSH 2005 this
summer, I sold off my highly prized posession to Dan Lloyd, because
Griffin said the cost of a repaint was basically equal for me to
the cost of having another one made...maybe a few more bucks to go
custom, but oh well.
Well today, just past that next birthday, I got my present in the mail
again, but this time it is truly "MY" RV10. Attached are some photos.
I can highly recommend Griffin, as I believe Dan any myself would both
tell you that the quality is extrordinary. The only thing missing on
mine is the antennas, which would be my fault since I didn't specify
them, and the photos I sent didn't show the antennas.
See below for the photos. Here is Griffin's contact info:
817-624-2320 or 866-584-0260
Fax 817-624-0422
Today, despite UPS not showing up with my fuel line stuff, I'm a very
happy boy.
To see a couple more pics, or if you get the digest version, here's a
link: http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/misc/index.html
Tim
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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This seems like a good option if you plan to use a Dynon as backup EFIS
(which I plan to do). The only downside is that the Dynon will not interface
to the Cheltons ( if you are using them) so you will not get EMS warnings
on your PFD and cannot display engine data on the pilot side screens. Since
I want an IFR plane with weather, traffic, terrain, approaches, etc. I'll
spring for the Cheltons.
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Working on QB fuse
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine monitor
And, if you want to go cheaper or save panel space, you can get both the
EFIS and the EMS in the same unit for a retail of around $3,200 (with no
sensors). It's called the FlightDEK D180 and would be a perfect instrument
for a backup EFIS and a dedicated EMS. With this one the battery backup
will give you both EFIS and EMS, whereas they don't have a backup battery
option for the EMS.
I can't wait to see what they come out with next. They do a good job of
making stuff that works while keeping the prices down. No, they're not
Chelton, but the panel won't cost upwards of $60,000 either.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Fax: 815-377-3694
I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC,
please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me,
please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has
voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill
Subject: RV10-List: Engine monitor
I recently took a trip up to the Dynon factory, near Seattle, to see they're
new D100 system. I was blown away with the display! The screen was very
bright, with high resolution, and the symbols were steady, with no flicker.
They have units running on internal battery power that you can simulate the
most extreme, and violent attitudes that you can produce waving it around in
your arms, and I was never able to tumble it. The ability to split the very
large display and present the majority of the engine data on the PFD is a
great feature. The whole system, including dual AHRS, dual screens, all 6
cylinder engine and fuel flow probes, remote compass, OAT, and AOA pitot
(not yet heated) is under $6000!!!!! This is for a system that is far more
capable, with a brighter, cleaner display than is in the G4 I fly for a
living! Now I can commit to a system, and start plumbing accordingly.
Chris Hukill
riveting tailcone
tripping over QB wings and fuselage
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We've got an IFR plane with weather, traffic, terrain, approaches, etc, and
we are using the Dynons as Primary. Cheltons are sweet, though.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Fax: 815-377-3694
I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC,
please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me,
please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has
voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Testement
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine monitor
This seems like a good option if you plan to use a Dynon as backup EFIS
(which I plan to do). The only downside is that the Dynon will not interface
to the Cheltons ( if you are using them) so you will not get EMS warnings
on your PFD and cannot display engine data on the pilot side screens. Since
I want an IFR plane with weather, traffic, terrain, approaches, etc. I'll
spring for the Cheltons.
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Working on QB fuse
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine monitor
And, if you want to go cheaper or save panel space, you can get both the
EFIS and the EMS in the same unit for a retail of around $3,200 (with no
sensors). It's called the FlightDEK D180 and would be a perfect instrument
for a backup EFIS and a dedicated EMS. With this one the battery backup
will give you both EFIS and EMS, whereas they don't have a backup battery
option for the EMS.
I can't wait to see what they come out with next. They do a good job of
making stuff that works while keeping the prices down. No, they're not
Chelton, but the panel won't cost upwards of $60,000 either.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Fax: 815-377-3694
I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC,
please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me,
please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has
voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill
Subject: RV10-List: Engine monitor
I recently took a trip up to the Dynon factory, near Seattle, to see they're
new D100 system. I was blown away with the display! The screen was very
bright, with high resolution, and the symbols were steady, with no flicker.
They have units running on internal battery power that you can simulate the
most extreme, and violent attitudes that you can produce waving it around in
your arms, and I was never able to tumble it. The ability to split the very
large display and present the majority of the engine data on the PFD is a
great feature. The whole system, including dual AHRS, dual screens, all 6
cylinder engine and fuel flow probes, remote compass, OAT, and AOA pitot
(not yet heated) is under $6000!!!!! This is for a system that is far more
capable, with a brighter, cleaner display than is in the G4 I fly for a
living! Now I can commit to a system, and start plumbing accordingly.
Chris Hukill
riveting tailcone
tripping over QB wings and fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: AF-2500 Chelton Interface |
The Chelton System does not have its own air data unit. If you have the
Grand Rapids EAU unit it is the air data unit. The Chelton system also has fuel
level and warning options if you have it connected to an engine monitor.
The AF-2500 for the Chelton System will also be the Air Data Computer for it.
Rob Hickman
Advanced Flight Systems
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| Subject: | Re: Engine monitor |
In a message dated 12/17/2005 7:58:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
cjhukill@cox.net writes:
The screen was very bright
For reference the Dynon D-10a is a 450 nit display. The D-100 is only 400
nits.
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| Subject: | Re: AF-2500 Chelton Interface |
The problem is that you can't see it. I will see if I can get them to take
a picture next time it is apart.
Rob Hickman
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| Subject: | Re: Happy Birthday (2 me) a year later |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I can't remember the exact price. $189-$210 or something in
that ballpark. I think I had maybe around $210 including
shipping or something like that.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Jesse Saint wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> What was the price tag, out of curiosity?
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC,
> please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me,
> please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has
> voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 11:22 PM
> To: RV10
> Subject: RV10-List: Happy Birthday (2 me) a year later
>
> Some of you may remember that a year ago for my birthday, I got an RV-10
> hand carved model from my dad. It was only one of 2 made by Griffin
> Aerospace Models. You may also remember that right after OSH 2005 this
> summer, I sold off my highly prized posession to Dan Lloyd, because
> Griffin said the cost of a repaint was basically equal for me to
> the cost of having another one made...maybe a few more bucks to go
> custom, but oh well.
>
> Well today, just past that next birthday, I got my present in the mail
> again, but this time it is truly "MY" RV10. Attached are some photos.
> I can highly recommend Griffin, as I believe Dan any myself would both
> tell you that the quality is extrordinary. The only thing missing on
> mine is the antennas, which would be my fault since I didn't specify
> them, and the photos I sent didn't show the antennas.
>
> See below for the photos. Here is Griffin's contact info:
> 817-624-2320 or 866-584-0260
> Fax 817-624-0422
>
> Today, despite UPS not showing up with my fuel line stuff, I'm a very
> happy boy.
>
> To see a couple more pics, or if you get the digest version, here's a
> link: http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/misc/index.html
>
> Tim
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