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1. 03:17 AM - Re: Yet another ebay scam to watch out for (Russell Daves)
2. 06:10 AM - Re: Empennage Fairing (Wayne Edgerton)
3. 06:35 AM - Re: Yet another ebay scam to watch out for (NYTerminat@aol.com)
4. 07:00 AM - Re: Yet another ebay scam to watch out for (Jerry Grimmonpre)
5. 07:23 AM - eBay and Paypal (Doug Hodde)
6. 08:18 AM - Re: eBay and Paypal (NYTerminat@AOL.COM)
7. 08:29 AM - Fuel selector valve configuration ()
8. 10:54 AM - Re: Fuel selector valve configuration (Tim Olson)
9. 11:48 AM - Re: Yet another ebay scam to watch out for (LIKE2LOOP@aol.com)
10. 12:42 PM - need complete or nearly complete RV10 for 10 minutes (David McNeill)
11. 12:58 PM - Re: Fuel selector valve configuration (William)
12. 04:54 PM - Allergy anyone? (Mani Ravee)
13. 05:19 PM - Re: Re: Fuel selector valve configuration (Eric Panning)
14. 05:21 PM - Re: Allergy anyone? (PJ Seipel)
15. 05:36 PM - Re: Allergy anyone? (Larry Rosen)
16. 06:07 PM - Allergy anyone? (JOHN STARN)
17. 07:01 PM - classified ad clecos (Robert G. Wright)
18. 07:43 PM - Re: Re: Allergy anyone? (Dan Masys)
19. 07:50 PM - Number 19 (Rene)
20. 10:13 PM - Re: Allergy anyone? (Mani Ravee)
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| Subject: | Re: Yet another ebay scam to watch out for |
While many things can be bought cheap on E-Bay using Paypal is not something I
will ever do again. Story to follow. If the buyer is in my home state I mail
a check once I check him out and confirm he appears to be reputable. If he shows
up on an internet search with a home phone number and address to match the
info provided I feel reasonably sure I can find him to file a criminal complaint
of theft or file suit if he doesn't deliver. If out of state if he doesn't
accept a credit card I don't do business.
NOW FOR THE REST OF THE STORY.
A couple of years ago I posted an underwater camera housing and color correcting
filter on E-Bay to sale as a package, and stated in the sale description that
one knob had a small piece broken off but it did not effect the housing use
or seal. It sold and I accepted payment via Paypal. I listed the amount of UPS
shipping with insurance and shipped the TWO items in the same box.
After receipt the Buyer advised by e-mail that the camera housing had arrived with
a broken knob and I needed to refund his money and put in a UPS damage claim.
UPS advised the Buyer needed to contact UPS so they could send someone out
to inspect. After inspection UPS said that the camera housing was not damaged
during shipping.
The Buyer returned ONLY the camera housing keeping the underwater color correction
lens to me and demanded a refund. The camera housing upon arrival was in
the same condition and in the same box as shipped to the Buyer, without the color
correction lens. I took photographs to confirm.
I e-mailed the Buyer and advised him that the camera housing was in the same condition
as advertised on E-Bay and the color correction lens had not been returned.
The Buyer in an e-mail confirmed that he "forgot" to send the lens.
After two weeks and still no return of the lens, I resealed the box and took it
back to UPS and sent it back to the Buyer, shipping collect (I have now paid
shipping two times).
I advised the Buyer by e-mail of what I had done and that since he had not returned
the color correction lens I would not consider any refund and as far as I
was concerned the matter was closed.
The Buyer refused to pay the shipping collect charge and when UPS returned the
item I refused to accept delivery. I have no idea where it ended up, probably
in a UPS unclaimed package facility.
The Buyer turned in a complaint to Paypal and after my first response to Paypal
advising them of all of the above Paypal denied his claim. The Buyer turned
in a second complaint to Paypal and Paypal refunded his money and demanded that
I send a refund payment to Paypal. Naturally I refused and even sent Paypal
forwarded copies of his e-mail saying he "forgot" to return the lens as well
as copies of my e-mails.
After months of going back and forth with Paypal they froze my E-Bay and Paypal
accounts so I could not do business and turned it over to a collection agency.
After I faxed the collection agency a copy of all of the e-mail documents and
the E-Bay advertisement as well as pictures of the returned camera housing
but no return of the color correct lens the collection agency closed there file
and advised Paypal they would not attempt collection.
Enough said about the "protection" one gets from using Paypal.
Russ Daves
#40044 - Fuselage on gear
----- Original Message -----
From: Lloyd, Daniel R.
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Yet another ebay scam to watch out for
This brings up a great point on using Ebay for anything. I personally use a policy
that if they do not take Paypal, then I do not buy from them. Paypal, depending
on the transaction, will protect $500-$1000, this coupled with funding
your Paypal account with a dedicated CC that you only use on-line, and that has
buyer protection, will give you some semblance of security. Most CC's have
a transaction guarantee for mail-order, and will refund your money if you never
receive the product.
Do not ever, never, ever send cash, wire transfer, Western Union, or bank account
transfer, this is all of these transactions are at your own risk as they
are considered cash and are untraceable once the money is gone. At least if you
use a CC you can try to re-coup it, but with cash it is gone.
Dedicate a CC for on-line transactions, that way if someone high jacks it, it
makes it easier to notice. Some CC's even offer virtual, one time use numbers
for on-line purchases. That way you never give out a real number and it is only
good one time.
The most recent scam I had was that an unknown company charged $29 to my card,
when I called on it to the CC company and they investigated, they could not
find the company, so they took off the charge, after that I saw a news story that
a foreigner was busted with several million CC numbers and was running a scam
like this, because during busy seasons no one checks the little charges, just
the big ones, he almost got away with $2mill or so.
Everyone just be careful! If it looks to good to be true, it probably is, said
many times, and ignored even more!
Dan
Wings 40269
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Empennage Fairing |
I recently received my QB fueselage and wings and the fairing was included with
it.
do not archive
Wayne E 40336
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| Subject: | Re: Yet another ebay scam to watch out for |
Russ,
I have heard of similar stories that there really is no worthwhile protection
with Paypal. Unfortunately, in this world it is buyer beware. There are bad
people and scam artists everywhere. Fortunately we live in the best country in
the world and even though there are some rotten apples amongst us, there are
more good ones than bad.So count your Blessings!
God Bless this Country
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 12/20/2005 6:19:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
dav1111@cox.net writes:
Enough said about the "protection" one gets from using Paypal.
Russ Daves
#40044 - Fuselage on gear
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| Subject: | Re: Yet another ebay scam to watch out for |
What we need is an escrow system that can be tied to our personal bank for the
release of the money for payment. I'm not the one to design it but it works for
real estate. A starting point could be above what PayPal doesn't cover.
Jerry Grimmonpre'
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----- Original Message -----
From: NYTerminat@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Yet another ebay scam to watch out for
Russ,
I have heard of similar stories that there really is no worthwhile protection
with Paypal. Unfortunately, in this world it is buyer beware. There are bad people
and scam artists everywhere. Fortunately we live in the best country in
the world and even though there are some rotten apples amongst us, there are more
good ones than bad.So count your Blessings!
God Bless this Country
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 12/20/2005 6:19:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, dav1111@cox.net
writes:
Enough said about the "protection" one gets from using Paypal.
Russ Daves
#40044 - Fuselage on gear
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Do not feel secure when using Paypal.
I paid via paypal on a $150 item I never received.
NO response to emails, and after I won, a series of negative feedbacks began to
show up on a previously perfect account.
When I pursued the matter with Paypal, they investigated and found in my favor.
They then informed me there were no funds left in the sellers paypal account
with which to refund me.
When I mentioned to paypal that I would pursue the matter with my credit card
they informed me that I had no grounds since the transaction between myself and
Paypal was separate from the transaction between me and the seller. Thus the
credit card would likely not refund me because that transaction was completed
i.e. I authorized funds to be transferred from my credit card to Paypal, and
they fulfilled the transaction by posting those funds to my Paypal account.
The Paypal service rep informed me that even if the credit card company refunded
me the funds and took them back from Paypal, that would not help me because
Paypal would simply try to collect the funds from me in another manner - he hinted
they would even use a collection agency if necessary.
Doug
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| Subject: | Re: eBay and Paypal |
Well that really stinks! They are like an insurance policy that you pay for
many years and then when a claim gets submitted you find out just how good or
bad they really are.
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In a message dated 12/20/2005 10:26:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,
hodde@olcwireless.net writes:
Do not feel secure when using Paypal.
I paid via paypal on a $150 item I never received.
NO response to emails, and after I won, a series of negative feedbacks began
to show up on a previously perfect account.
When I pursued the matter with Paypal, they investigated and found in my
favor. They then informed me there were no funds left in the sellers paypal
account with which to refund me.
When I mentioned to paypal that I would pursue the matter with my credit
card they informed me that I had no grounds since the transaction between myself
and Paypal was separate from the transaction between me and the seller. Thus
the credit card would likely not refund me because that transaction was
completed i.e. I authorized funds to be transferred from my credit card to Paypal,
and they fulfilled the transaction by posting those funds to my Paypal account.
The Paypal service rep informed me that even if the credit card company
refunded me the funds and took them back from Paypal, that would not help me
because Paypal would simply try to collect the funds from me in another manner
- he
hinted they would even use a collection agency if necessary.
Doug
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| Subject: | Fuel selector valve configuration |
Submitted:
--> RV10-List message posted by: <Park.Dodd@tatumpartners.com>
You all have been great about disucssioning the fuel selector valve from andair
and I will be purchasing one from them however I also want to use the flexible
lines mentioned going to the tanks. I have two questions
When I go to order the valve form the andair website what configuration do I request
so I can use the flexible lines the model I think I want is the fs20x3.
How long are the flexible lines and where are you all purchasing them?
Thanks for all the help
parkdodd@comcast.net
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel selector valve configuration |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
For the valve, you can choose from a variety of types if
you wish, but a good one is probably the one that
Neal George has available: The FS20x7t valves
(the new 90-deg swing body with 90-deg AN6 fittings)
or the FS20f5-FMF valves (a three-port valve, labeled
"LEFT-AUX-RIGHT-OFF" with two 1/4" NPT fittings and one
straight AN6 male fitting).
You can look on Andair's site and configure a valve
that looks like what you need, then check with
Neal and others to see if they hvae it.
As for the lines, I originally was going to go with
parker hose, 929B-6 type. I think that would be a
fantastic hose, but I can't find a local place to get
it and I'd have to provide exact lengths and fittings
to get one made.
What I just got, is some very nice Aeroquip stainless
overbraided hose that is used in the racing industry.
You can get stuff like that all over. I have a racing
supply place locally, and places like Summit online
have it all. Then you can buy aeroquip fittings
for the hose and build them yourself. Then you can
build them to exact length with your personally
chosen fittings. I just got mine yeterday. The fittings
are the same ones that are on the ends of some of those
hoses supplied by Van's. Also, Aeroquip started in
Aviation and racers adopted the stuff. It's great stuff.
In my case, I think I estimated 41 inches per side would
be about right. The hose is sold in various lengths,
so I bought 10'. Should be good to make 2 hoses,
one that runs all the way to each tank from the valve.
I also bought a couple extra fittings so if there's
enough spare hose I can make that hose that's about
1.5' long to go to the fuel pump area.
One other thing: When looking at the local parker dealer
for special fittings, they only had steel (and some
brass), in the hose fittings, and some adapters. And
their selection was somewhat limited. Once I started
looking into these aeroquip racing fittings, I found
everything I ever wanted was available in aluminum,
with a much larger selection.
Hope that helps. If my valve extension shows up soon,
perhaps by next week I'll have photos of an install.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Park.Dodd@tatumpartners.com wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: <Park.Dodd@tatumpartners.com>
>
> You all have been great about disucssioning the fuel selector valve
> from andair and I will be purchasing one from them however I also
> want to use the flexible lines mentioned going to the tanks. I have
> two questions
>
> When I go to order the valve form the andair website what
> configuration do I request so I can use the flexible lines the model
> I think I want is the fs20x3.
>
> How long are the flexible lines and where are you all purchasing
> them?
>
> Thanks for all the help
>
> parkdodd@comcast.net
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yet another ebay scam to watch out for |
"If a deal is too good to be true..... "
On the positive side, we purchased a NAV 120 for our old Cessna 170 from
E-bay. I had the seller send it directly to an avionics shop for a bench test
(it was yellow tagged) and it did pass his test. Our agreement with the
seller was 3 days to test and either pay for it or return it. I paid for it with
Paypal.
Paypal only allows the user to use credit cards without giving the unknown
seller the info. Dont expcet anything more. We also purchased NEW (in the
box since 1956) wing tips in excellent condition, never installed. There are
many good oportunities and like anywhere else there are bad people. E-bay is not
bad, some users are. These are the same people that would come to your home
and buy your used TV and give you a bad check. On the positive side, you can
sell many items that you would have a hard time finding a buyer any other way.
DO NO ARCHIVE
Steve
Stephen G. Blank,DDS RV-10 #40499 - Dimpling Rudder Skins. Cessna 170b Flyer
Port St Lucie, FL
772-475-5556 cell
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| Subject: | need complete or nearly complete RV10 for 10 minutes |
Need to check the sizing of the inertial reel belts in a RV10 with the seats in
it. If anyone will be flying through the PHX area during the holidays, I would
like to bring the AMSAFE rep and the final prototype for a final check. Just
phone me offline if able, 480-626-4048.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel selector valve configuration |
>When I go to order the valve form the andair website what
>configuration do I request so I can use the flexible lines the
> model I think I want is the fs20x3.
If you are going to order a valve from Andair, I suggest one with a FEMALE lower
(f) fitting. If you go with the one above, which has a male fitting, your will
then need a very short tube with AN818/819 at both ends or a female Tee to
go to the fuel pump and filter.
With a FEMALE lower fitting, all you have to do is replace the AN826 Tee on page
37-2 in the kit with an AN824, replace the AN823s with AN821s and you are all
set.
For standard left-right, the fs20f7F with 90 degree travel is a virtual drop in
replacement. The 6 inch extension would allow you to lower the valve and allow
more room for the heater tube.
So in a nutshell, if you go with the fs20_3 valve which has a 180 degree travel
between left and right positions, the side ports at 9 o'clock and 12 o'clock,
go with the new -T male side ports turned 90 degrees and female 1/4 NPT ports
on the bottom (fs20f3F).
If you go with the fs20_7 valve which has the 90 degree travel between left and
right positions, the side ports at 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock, go with the female
ports all around (fs20f3F). This valve with the side ports at 10 and 2 o'clock
would be a challenge with the new 90 degree fittings as the would point right
at the sidewalls.
William Curtis
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee" <maniravee@sbcglobal.net>
I just got done with spraying AKZO on some parts. Its been an hour since
and I have intense itching in both my hands, especially the palms.
Washed, and washed again. feel my hands swelling up. May take some
prednisone right away.
Has anyone ever had something like this happen? The only thing I
remember doing wrong was to "rinse my hands with MEK". May be the
culprit. Oh well, if I die tonight, there will be someone "giving away"
a 10.
Mani Ravee, MD.
Sent with Wireless Sync from Verizon Wireless on a Treo 650.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel selector valve configuration |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
I'm holding off for now but will likely order the
duplex Andair valve (with return lines) + 6 inch
extension. I have already made the provision in my
fuel tanks. The Titan kit Engine with their new fuel
injection requires a return line It also enables using
autogas (provided compression 8.5:1 or lower) and
reduces vapor lock/hot start issues.
The deltahawk diesel also requires a return line but I
don't think they will have anything ready for the
RV-10 for a long time.
ECi (Joe Trampota) says they are about 1 year away for
an IO-540 kit engine. In addition to the AEC fuel
injection they will have a cold air induction system.
Eric
--- William <wcurtis@core.com> wrote:
> >When I go to order the valve form the andair
> website what
> >configuration do I request so I can use the
> flexible lines the
> > model I think I want is the fs20x3.
>
> If you are going to order a valve from Andair, I
> suggest one with a FEMALE lower (f) fitting. If you
> go with the one above, which has a male fitting,
> your will then need a very short tube with AN818/819
> at both ends or a female Tee to go to the fuel pump
> and filter.
>
> With a FEMALE lower fitting, all you have to do is
> replace the AN826 Tee on page 37-2 in the kit with
> an AN824, replace the AN823s with AN821s and you are
> all set.
>
> For standard left-right, the fs20f7F with 90 degree
> travel is a virtual drop in replacement. The 6 inch
> extension would allow you to lower the valve and
> allow more room for the heater tube.
>
> So in a nutshell, if you go with the fs20_3 valve
> which has a 180 degree travel between left and right
> positions, the side ports at 9 o'clock and 12
> o'clock, go with the new -T male side ports turned
> 90 degrees and female 1/4 NPT ports on the bottom
> (fs20f3F).
>
> If you go with the fs20_7 valve which has the 90
> degree travel between left and right positions, the
> side ports at 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock, go with the
> female ports all around (fs20f3F). This valve with
> the side ports at 10 and 2 o'clock would be a
> challenge with the new 90 degree fittings as the
> would point right at the sidewalls.
> William Curtis
> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Allergy anyone? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: PJ Seipel <seipel@seznam.cz>
Did you wear a mask? Both AKZO and MEK can do a number on you if you
inhale the fumes.
If you did wear a mask, it's probably the MEK, it'll dry out your skin
something fierce.
PJ
40032
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Mani Ravee wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee" <maniravee@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I just got done with spraying AKZO on some parts. Its been an hour since
> and I have intense itching in both my hands, especially the palms.
> Washed, and washed again. feel my hands swelling up. May take some
> prednisone right away.
> Has anyone ever had something like this happen? The only thing I
> remember doing wrong was to "rinse my hands with MEK". May be the
> culprit. Oh well, if I die tonight, there will be someone "giving away"
> a 10.
>
> Mani Ravee, MD.
> Sent with Wireless Sync from Verizon Wireless on a Treo 650.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Allergy anyone? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
I have not had a problem with the AKZO. It probably is the MEK. I clean
up with acetone. I only have problems breathing in the fumes while
working in my garage which is closed up to keep the heat in.
Naptha, acetone, AKZO primer, kerosene heater and a cigarette just to
help. I hope I live long enough to fly my RV. :-)
Do not archive
Larry Rosen
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
Mani Ravee wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee" <maniravee@sbcglobal.net>
>
>I just got done with spraying AKZO on some parts. Its been an hour since
>and I have intense itching in both my hands, especially the palms.
>Washed, and washed again. feel my hands swelling up. May take some
>prednisone right away.
>Has anyone ever had something like this happen? The only thing I
>remember doing wrong was to "rinse my hands with MEK". May be the
>culprit. Oh well, if I die tonight, there will be someone "giving away"
>a 10.
>
>Mani Ravee, MD.
>Sent with Wireless Sync from Verizon Wireless on a Treo 650.
>
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"John Huft" <rv8tor@lazy8.net>
--> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
My response is at the bottom. Don't like humor ?? DELETE NOW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Rosen" <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Allergy anyone?
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> I have not had a problem with the AKZO. It probably is the MEK. I clean
> up with acetone. I only have problems breathing in the fumes while
> working in my garage which is closed up to keep the heat in.
>
> Naptha, acetone, AKZO primer, kerosene heater and a cigarette just to
> help. I hope I live long enough to fly my RV. :-)
>
> Do not archive
> Larry Rosen
> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
>
> Mani Ravee wrote:
>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee" <maniravee@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>>I just got done with spraying AKZO on some parts. Its been an hour since
>>and I have intense itching in both my hands, especially the palms.
>>Washed, and washed again. feel my hands swelling up. May take some
>>prednisone right away.
>>Has anyone ever had something like this happen? The only thing I
>>remember doing wrong was to "rinse my hands with MEK". May be the
>>culprit. Oh well, if I die tonight, there will be someone "giving away"
>>a 10.
>>Mani Ravee, MD.
>>Sent with Wireless Sync from Verizon Wireless on a Treo 650.
My Bonnie looked into the gas tank,
The height of its contents to see,
She lit a small match to assist her,
OH BRING MY BONNIE TO ME........
Do Not Archive...Just a bit of humor... KABONG
MERRY CHRISTMAS
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| Subject: | classified ad clecos |
I'm looking for some #40 clecos, about 150. The Tailcone is wearing my
supply out! I'm sure some of you are out there who won't need as many
anymore and are ready to offload some. Name your price. I'd rather help a
fellow builder recoup some costs than pay the big wigs. I'll also pay
shipping.
Buildus interruptus begins tomorrow!
Armywrights at Adelphia dot net, or just copy it from the header information
in the email.
Rob Wright
#392
Tailcone
Ready to drill left side stiffeners after vacation!
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| Subject: | Re: Allergy anyone? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
It is definitely the MEK and it is not an allergy, but rather a toxic effect on
the skin, since MEK is absorbed through the skin and preferentially affects subcutaneous
fat cells, leeching out lipids from the skin. Causes a pretty fiery
dermatitis if you do something like wash your hands in it and let it sit for
a few minutes. Also can cause a tingling pins-and-needles style effect on cutaneous
nerves.
There is a reasonably good materials safety data sheet on MEK at http://www.prism.princeton.edu/PRISM_cleanroom/MSDS/Methyl%20ethyl%20ketone.pdf
AZKO has somewhat hazardous vapors (but luckily nothing as ominous as the cyanide-derivative
vapors from two part polyurethanes) but is pretty benign on the
skin, other than it really sticks well and can be a pain to scrub off.
Been there, experienced a little of all of those vapors and chemicals in the course
of building the first RV.
-Dan Masys, MD
RV-7A N747DL flying
RV-10A riveting tailcone bulkheads
> From: PJ Seipel <seipel@seznam.cz>
> Date: 2005/12/20 Tue PM 08:21:42 EST
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Allergy anyone?
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: PJ Seipel <seipel@seznam.cz>
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> Did you wear a mask? Both AKZO and MEK can do a number on you if you
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> 40032
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> Mani Ravee wrote:
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee" <maniravee@sbcglobal.net>
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> > I just got done with spraying AKZO on some parts. Its been an hour since
> > and I have intense itching in both my hands, especially the palms.
> > Washed, and washed again. feel my hands swelling up. May take some
> > prednisone right away.
> > Has anyone ever had something like this happen? The only thing I
> > remember doing wrong was to "rinse my hands with MEK". May be the
> > culprit. Oh well, if I die tonight, there will be someone "giving away"
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> > Mani Ravee, MD.
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Looks like another -10 has flown.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee" <maniravee@sbcglobal.net>
Thanks guys for the replies. Yes, I think the MEK was responsible. Yes,
masks were used. I just got overzealous with the cleanup using a real wet
bounty and had to wait awhile before I got home to wash with soap. Lesson
learned.
And of course, KABONG, next time will light up the cigar to a job well done!
:)
Mani
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHN STARN
Subject: RV10-List: Allergy anyone?
--> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
My response is at the bottom. Don't like humor ?? DELETE NOW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Rosen" <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Allergy anyone?
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
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> I have not had a problem with the AKZO. It probably is the MEK. I clean
> up with acetone. I only have problems breathing in the fumes while
> working in my garage which is closed up to keep the heat in.
>
> Naptha, acetone, AKZO primer, kerosene heater and a cigarette just to
> help. I hope I live long enough to fly my RV. :-)
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> Do not archive
> Larry Rosen
> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
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> Mani Ravee wrote:
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>>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mani Ravee" <maniravee@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>>I just got done with spraying AKZO on some parts. Its been an hour since
>>and I have intense itching in both my hands, especially the palms.
>>Washed, and washed again. feel my hands swelling up. May take some
>>prednisone right away.
>>Has anyone ever had something like this happen? The only thing I
>>remember doing wrong was to "rinse my hands with MEK". May be the
>>culprit. Oh well, if I die tonight, there will be someone "giving away"
>>a 10.
>>Mani Ravee, MD.
>>Sent with Wireless Sync from Verizon Wireless on a Treo 650.
My Bonnie looked into the gas tank,
The height of its contents to see,
She lit a small match to assist her,
OH BRING MY BONNIE TO ME........
Do Not Archive...Just a bit of humor... KABONG
MERRY CHRISTMAS
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