---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 12/30/05: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:01 AM - Re: rv10 bill of sale (RAS) 2. 05:15 AM - Re: rv10 bill of sale (Tim Olson) 3. 06:03 AM - (Jay Rowe) 4. 06:47 AM - Re: (Phil Hall) 5. 07:09 AM - Re: (James Hein) 6. 07:39 AM - Re: (JOHN STARN) 7. 09:29 AM - Ch27: WD-1004 misalignment (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 8. 10:28 AM - Alternate solvent for MEK (Eric Panning) 9. 11:18 AM - Re: Ch27: WD-1004 misalignment (Rick) 10. 11:44 AM - Aileron throws (Rick) 11. 11:53 AM - Re: (Mark Grieve) 12. 03:09 PM - Re: (Jay Rowe) 13. 04:10 PM - New builder (Jim Carlton) 14. 08:23 PM - A little more fuel for the primer fire (grin) (Bowen Miles) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:01:26 AM PST US From: "RAS" Subject: Re: RV10-List: rv10 bill of sale --> RV10-List message posted by: "RAS" yes, you are a bit paranoid, however, you receive your bill of sale as you go when buying kits in increments otherwise you get it all in one go. The standard commercial invoice is your bill of sale, you don't buy an aircraft but the bits to construct one. marcel ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV10-List: rv10 bill of sale > --> RV10-List message posted by: > > Hi, guys ,Hugo here . > I have a questions to the second airplane builders,at what moment you > recive a bill of sale,wich you Must have ,in order to register the > airplane. > my questions is, even if this is a very serius company ,and excelent > customer support,you know ,anythings is possible,if something happen to > them (stooddard Hamilton,glasair-glastar),we will finish with a lot of > aluminum ,and may some divorce,if you can't convert the above mention > aluminum in an asset. > Do I am paranoioc? > Thanks ,Hugo > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:08 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: rv10 bill of sale --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson After I had all the various kits, I just requested the Bill of Sale and they sent it out. I'm under the impression that they would send it out anytime if I requested it, but they like to send it out later in the build if possible, just so the builder doesn't lose it. I don't think you have nearly as much to worry about when dealing with Van's as with those other kit companies, so I'd just sit tight and pick up the BOS when you get your finishing kit delivered. Van's isn't going anywhere, and if they did, I'm sure they'd mail you a Bill of Sale before then went away. Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 DO NOT ARCHIVE RAS wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "RAS" > > > yes, you are a bit paranoid, however, you receive your bill of sale as > you go when buying kits in increments otherwise you get it all in one > go. The standard commercial invoice is your bill of sale, you don't buy > an aircraft but the bits to construct one. > > marcel > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: "RV10" > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:46 PM > Subject: RV10-List: rv10 bill of sale > > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: >> >> Hi, guys ,Hugo here . >> I have a questions to the second airplane builders,at what moment you >> recive a bill of sale,wich you Must have ,in order to register the >> airplane. >> my questions is, even if this is a very serius company ,and excelent >> customer support,you know ,anythings is possible,if something happen >> to them (stooddard Hamilton,glasair-glastar),we will finish with a lot >> of aluminum ,and may some divorce,if you can't convert the above >> mention aluminum in an asset. >> Do I am paranoioc? >> Thanks ,Hugo >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:23 AM PST US From: "Jay Rowe" Subject: RV10-List: Anyone out there with information on hanger plans? I am part way thru the QB wings so I need to start thinking about hangers. I currently rent an unheated T at AUG for my 172 but there is cheap leaseable land available at WVL where you can build your own nicely heated hanger. But I need plans. Since I am a part time contractor (homes) I would prefer to stick build since I have no experience with metal. If anyone knows of a web site, or person, or company that could help me please let me know. Jay Rowe #40301 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:43 AM PST US From: Phil Hall Subject: Re: RV10-List: --> RV10-List message posted by: Phil Hall Jay, I sell hangars for a living, Aircraft Structures, Inc. Give me a call at 928-636-1492 days, evenings or weekends. Phil #40122 At 09:01 AM 12/30/2005 -0500, you wrote: > > Anyone out there with information on hanger plans? I am part way thru the QB > wings so I need to start thinking about hangers. I currently rent an > unheated T at AUG for my 172 but there is cheap leaseable land available at > WVL where you can build your own nicely heated hanger. But I need plans. > Since I am a part time contractor (homes) I would prefer to stick build since > I have no experience with metal. If anyone knows of a web site, or person, or > company that could help me please let me know. Jay Rowe #40301 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:38 AM PST US From: James Hein Subject: Re: RV10-List: --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein You have no experince with metal? What are you building your -10 out of? Plastic? :) (The preceeding message was humor ) do not archive -Jim 40384 Jay Rowe wrote: > Anyone out there with information on hanger plans? I am part way thru > the QB wings so I need to start thinking about hangers. I currently > rent an unheated T at AUG for my 172 but there is cheap leaseable land > available at WVL where you can build your own nicely heated > hanger. But I need plans. Since I am a part time contractor (homes) I > would prefer to stick build since I have no experience with metal. If > anyone knows of a web site, or person, or company that could help me > please let me know. Jay Rowe #40301 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:16 AM PST US From: "JOHN STARN" Subject: Re: RV10-List: --> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" Get a contractor friendly price from General Steel. Nation wide, they do permits etc., can just buy the "kit". or you used to be able to. They are the experts I'd call. KABONG Do Not Archive > --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein > > > You have no experince with metal? What are you building your -10 out of? > Plastic? > >> Anyone out there with information on hanger plans? I am part way thru >> the QB wings so I need to start thinking about hangers. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:23 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Ch27: WD-1004 misalignment From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Ok, I'm finishing up the firewall assembly, doing the rib subassembly, and the WD-1004 holes are now almost half a hole misaligned with the 1001E center angle because of the 1048 Fuselage rib being between them now. Did anyone else see this? Michael Sausen -10 #352 Fuselage do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:06 AM PST US From: Eric Panning Subject: RV10-List: Alternate solvent for MEK --> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning Awhile back there was a discussion on MEK and how Nitrile gloves don't offer much protection. I did a little searching and found an alternate solvent, Denatured Alcohol. It is ~ 99% Ethanol + some methanol so you don't drink it... Some of the advantages: 1. Available at the hardware store 2. Ethanol is Nitrile gloves compatible. (Methanol does penetrate in 32 min but much longer than MEK and Methanol concentration is low) 3. Does a great job of removing fuel sealant - as good as MEK 4. Lower vapor pressure so less solvent fumes 5. Also does a great job cleaning aluminum for paint prep. 6. Removes vinyl washprimer (could be a plus or a minus... :) ) I've switched to alcohol for all solvent prep. I also have built an activated carbon filter (attached to a bilge blower) that has been very effective with MEK or alcohol fumes) I will take some pictures and post if there is interest. Note, vinyl wash primer from Sherwin Williams has MEK in it. I suspect it is common to a number of the primer systems so it cannot be completely avoided. Eric Randy - I will take you up on your offer to see your RV-10. I sent you an email directly. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:01 AM PST US From: Rick Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ch27: WD-1004 misalignment DNA: do not archive Its-Bogus: do not forward to list - No Plain-Text Section --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. 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Rick S. 40185 Fuselage do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:53:46 AM PST US From: Mark Grieve Subject: Re: RV10-List: Received-SPF: pass (mail.outfitters.com: 64.6.9.79 is whitelisted) receiver=mail.outfitters.com; client-ip=64.6.9.79; helo=[64.6.9.79]; envelope-from=mark@macomb.com; x-software=spfmilter 0.97 http://www.acme.com/software/spfmilter/ with libspf2-1.0.0; --> RV10-List message posted by: Mark Grieve Jay, If you were in West central Illinois I could point you at two hangars that you might like. My father designed a simple 40x40 foot pole building with 10 foot high doors that roll straight out to the sides. I helped build the truss rafters and the hangars were erected by the farmers/pilots who owned the runways. Rigid Rib roofing was used on the outside and several fiberglass panels were incorporated into the roof to let some light in. The weak point was the low end National door hangers so I would suggest Cannonball. Sorry I don't have any plans. This was 30 years ago and nobody thought of that. I might be able to get you some pictures. Mark Jay Rowe wrote: > Anyone out there with information on hanger plans? I am part way thru > the QB wings so I need to start thinking about hangers. I currently > rent an unheated T at AUG for my 172 but there is cheap leaseable land > available at WVL where you can build your own nicely heated hanger. But > I need plans. Since I am a part time contractor (homes) I would prefer > to stick build since I have no experience with metal. If anyone knows of > a web site, or person, or company that could help me please let me > know. Jay Rowe #40301 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:14 PM PST US From: "Jay Rowe" Subject: Re: RV10-List: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jay Rowe" You are right Jim, I do have some metal experience but if my trials and tribulations with the 10 are are any indication I will need lots of "oops bolts" if I put up a metal hanger. Jay do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Hein" Subject: Re: RV10-List: > --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein > > > You have no experince with metal? What are you building your -10 out of? > Plastic? > > :) > > (The preceeding message was humor ) > do not archive > > -Jim 40384 > > Jay Rowe wrote: > >> Anyone out there with information on hanger plans? I am part way thru >> the QB wings so I need to start thinking about hangers. I currently rent >> an unheated T at AUG for my 172 but there is cheap leaseable land >> available at WVL where you can build your own nicely heated hanger. But I >> need plans. Since I am a part time contractor (homes) I would prefer to >> stick build since I have no experience with metal. If anyone knows of a >> web site, or person, or company that could help me please let me know. >> Jay Rowe #40301 > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > -- > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:10:00 PM PST US From: Jim Carlton Subject: RV10-List: New builder --> RV10-List message posted by: Jim Carlton Opened the crate on kit #525 this afternoon! Wow, what have I got myself into? Everything looks nice and neat, well packed and organized. Let's hope I can stay that way and get this baby done some day soon. Now let's see, what did I do with that inventory list.... Jim ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:10 PM PST US From: Bowen Miles Subject: RV10-List: A little more fuel for the primer fire (grin) This was in our newsletter here at the Air Force Research Lab: http://www.afrl.af.mil/news/dec05/features/af_develops.pdf